Making Rope - Medieval to Edwardian technique

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archanth

archanth

13 жыл бұрын

Clip from Edwardian Farm.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisal
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope
www.angelfire.com/journal/mill...
Medieval rope making at Châteaux Guédelon in “Secrets of the Castle with Ruth, Peter and Tom”:
part 1:
• Video
part 2:
• Video
Money for Old Rope: • Money for Old Rope? Wh...
Playlist, entire documentary: • Secrets of the Castle ...
Strength of sisal rope:
www.engineeringtoolbox.com/sis...
Making cord
• How To Make Natural Co...
BBC Farm series:
Tales from the Green Valley
• Video
Tudor Monastery Farm
• Video
Victorian Farm
• Victorian Farm - Trailer
Edwardian Farm
• Edwardian Farm Episode 1
Wartime Farm
• Video

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@lift0dem0weights1
@lift0dem0weights1 9 жыл бұрын
Dang the old man was about to say where the siscel comes from and the narrator talks over him. Most people don't know what ropes made from.
@archanth
@archanth 9 жыл бұрын
The joys of being online: "Sisal, with the botanical name Agave sisalana, is a species of Agave native to southern Mexico but widely cultivated and naturalized in many other countries. It yields a stiff fibre used in making various products. The sisal fibre is traditionally used for rope and twine, and has many other uses, including: paper, cloth, wall coverings, carpets, and dartboards." Who knew dartboards came from cacti?
@DeathAndMajesty
@DeathAndMajesty 8 жыл бұрын
+archanth Interesting irony in a cactus dartboard...
@mysterioussquirrel4456
@mysterioussquirrel4456 8 жыл бұрын
The internet is amazing. One moment I'm looking at porn the next I'm learning how rope is made.
@flyinspirals
@flyinspirals 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for uploading these.
@JahanZeb1976
@JahanZeb1976 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on basic information. Regards,
@gomezpiro
@gomezpiro 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Technical Manual !
@zdrux
@zdrux 11 жыл бұрын
"In preparation for their trolling expedition..." .. the Brits be trollin' with rope since 1864
@cresnicke
@cresnicke 11 жыл бұрын
Here is the gist: Each individual thread is composed of fibers that are all spun together (like rope). This spiral shape means that when something pulls on the thread, each fiber is squeezed more tightly against the other fibers. This squeezing causes the friction between the independent fibers. Now, the fibers aren't all lined up, they start and stop randomly. This randomness means that where one fiber stops, another is starting, and the tension is taken by the other fibers in the area.
@petesterful
@petesterful 12 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!! Now I know how to make rope!
@FATZERAG
@FATZERAG 12 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@codyhufstetler643
@codyhufstetler643 11 жыл бұрын
it's because the individual fibers are interlaced so much that the friction between them is massive. try this: take two books about the same size, and interlace them by taking the pages of one book and placing them one by one between the pages of another book (as though you were shuffling cards - search "phone book friction" if you're not sure what I'm talking about). they will be almost impossible to pull apart. ropes work under a similar principle.
@Dannyisgreatful
@Dannyisgreatful 12 жыл бұрын
wow! i had no idea making rope was such an art :)
@archanth
@archanth 11 жыл бұрын
Your interest is clearly in the technology of cordage. (Thread vs rope is a matter of scale). Your bias is fine. However, the technology makes *use* of friction and the huge internal surface area when small fibers are intertwined.
@b4ux1t3-tech
@b4ux1t3-tech 9 жыл бұрын
Did I just learn how to make rope? I think I just learned how to make rope.
@shonuffisthemaster
@shonuffisthemaster 9 жыл бұрын
he's got an opinel! awesome
@smokinjoe45
@smokinjoe45 11 жыл бұрын
just think about it for a minute and picture the smallest fibres which become intertwined with each other and then the others become intertwined with them upon more and more intertwined fibers so that they are all interwoven with all their differents lengths being completely stuck together. It's the repetition of intertwining that does the trick.
@Snuffle145
@Snuffle145 12 жыл бұрын
So can you only make a 20 yard long rope? Or is there a way to continue weaving in fibers?
@jakibros
@jakibros 8 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the acorn looking piece that slides inside the the 3 twisted strands?
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 10 жыл бұрын
Did he say trolling expedition? :)
@archanth
@archanth 10 жыл бұрын
They were planning on a fishing trip--the piscine, not the pestilential variety--as I recall.
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 10 жыл бұрын
archanth haha I was kidding :)
@hermanngoring397
@hermanngoring397 9 жыл бұрын
lol
@MMAh00ligan
@MMAh00ligan 9 жыл бұрын
LOL you're pretty much everywhere on KZfaq aren't you?
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 9 жыл бұрын
***** Haha I think this rope making video is cool :)
@19888rex
@19888rex 12 жыл бұрын
woow very cool, but what tipe of cordage you use in this video? thaks so much. ale
@rockclimbingrules
@rockclimbingrules 12 жыл бұрын
how do you first make the thinner strands from the short fibers
@archanth
@archanth 11 жыл бұрын
He wrote: "Seems like they would just pull apart." Postghost's comment is relevant to the "pull apart". If I find time, I might make put a video together. In the meantime, YT has lots of videos connected to the topic.
@BaridWajdi
@BaridWajdi 9 жыл бұрын
+ Let see, 4.82803 km per day? That's quite a hardwork. +
@gunsrus123
@gunsrus123 12 жыл бұрын
I went to morellem key place last weekend
@dannyfubar3099
@dannyfubar3099 8 жыл бұрын
Very Riki Tiki Interesting! :)
@carmsbody2000
@carmsbody2000 12 жыл бұрын
What stops it from unwinding itself ?
@Desarcy
@Desarcy 12 жыл бұрын
@carmsbody2000 Friction. The individual strands of the rope are twisted so that they apply friction on the other strands. You can hear him at around 2:12 say that you can see the twists working against each other. If you've every twisted a string or a rubber band so much that it curls up on itself, the part that curls up is twisted in the same fashion as the rope they're making.
@GeneralG1810
@GeneralG1810 12 жыл бұрын
OK but how do you make the sizel?
@Zyxi7
@Zyxi7 11 жыл бұрын
Would if you took those 3 of those original ropes and made that but then took 3 of the finished product and wove them together. And then do some same thing over and over
@flyinspirals
@flyinspirals 11 жыл бұрын
It'd make sense to show it - look for video on 'spinning'. Roughly: fibers are spun, the same way wool or cotton fibers are spun, into 'rope yarn'. By being twisted together, fibers lock enough to hold into a cord -called a ply- that can be twisted around several others as shown here. (Some cloth fibers are mutiple spun cords (plies) twisted together like rope - otherwise, the thing that holds cloth fibers together is the weaving or knitting preventing the spun threads -yarn- from untwisting.)
@archanth
@archanth 12 жыл бұрын
I can't explain it. The video plays for me. However, I occasionally encounter problems such as that.
@sergesalnikoff5300
@sergesalnikoff5300 9 жыл бұрын
У нас так делали веревку 20 лет назад.
@fnkuba
@fnkuba 9 жыл бұрын
We still do it to produce up to 50 mm rope
@conniebusby9997
@conniebusby9997 9 жыл бұрын
interesting
@Postghost
@Postghost 11 жыл бұрын
Take two phone books and interleave the pages one by one (how it looks when shuffling playing cards) then try and pull the phone books apart holding the spines, you cant.
@rogerpaull6178
@rogerpaull6178 10 жыл бұрын
how much weight can that type of rope they made hold?
@archanth
@archanth 10 жыл бұрын
Look for the "rope strength" link in the "about" section below the video.
@rogerpaull6178
@rogerpaull6178 10 жыл бұрын
ooh ouch, just did the math dyneema is 18 times stronger than that rope, probably 18 times more money too tho lol.
@ZQMBGN
@ZQMBGN 12 жыл бұрын
how it's make english version
@Funnyhookers6748
@Funnyhookers6748 11 жыл бұрын
@johnpetermalcolm cool
@johnpetermalcolm
@johnpetermalcolm 11 жыл бұрын
Google "Chatham Historic Dockyard", and you can have both.
@estufa88
@estufa88 11 жыл бұрын
try to click somewhere in the time var (0:01)
@dance1211rec
@dance1211rec 12 жыл бұрын
Ted baker looks like the captain from fort boyard
@rollinwitbigc
@rollinwitbigc 11 жыл бұрын
0:14 trolling expediton?????
@billythebrainsoftain
@billythebrainsoftain 11 жыл бұрын
I love youtube.
@Postghost
@Postghost 11 жыл бұрын
"don't google friction. that tells you nothing in relation to this. friction is what holds the fibers together but not how the fibers are made into cord" wat?
@Fearose
@Fearose 9 жыл бұрын
horses are used to pull the rope
@Uri24
@Uri24 11 жыл бұрын
there is way of weaving fibers
@ArtyomMe
@ArtyomMe 10 жыл бұрын
Old good technique! I'm assuming not too much people can do anything like this today, and it's really bad because it means that after couple of generations we will lose this technique.
@Kilbot192
@Kilbot192 9 жыл бұрын
yeah, advancement of technology is such a bad thing. why would anybody want a more efficient, cost effective method of making rope.
@ArtyomMe
@ArtyomMe 9 жыл бұрын
john papple The problem is that any new technologist who specializes, for example, in rope making, will only be able to work and produce ropes (and rope is just an example could be anything else) with his modern machines and technologies. Our ancestors spent thousands of years developing this techniques and it took us 2-3 generations to forget everything that we knew and to rely completely on new machines and equipment. A quote from Gandhi: "The expert knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing."
@phixle
@phixle 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, we learned it in elementary school (Austria) (I went genius and used an battery drill because we used our hands in school.)
@emissarygorz3842
@emissarygorz3842 9 жыл бұрын
artiyom It's kind of ironic really, the new technology killing it is also preserving it. The technique will never die so long as we have it online, via video or picture, people can do it themselves.
@HipposHateWater
@HipposHateWater 8 жыл бұрын
+artiyom Normally I'd agree with you, but this same method is still used today. The only difference is that a machine does it.
@l0r4kpl
@l0r4kpl 9 жыл бұрын
Oh! A flemish string, isn't it :D
@archanth
@archanth 11 жыл бұрын
google "friction"
@shadesilverwing0
@shadesilverwing0 11 жыл бұрын
Why would someone need rope for a trolling expedition? They can just use the internet for that.
@archanth
@archanth 11 жыл бұрын
You're projecting.
@Swanhalsi
@Swanhalsi 11 жыл бұрын
First Germanicfolc....now they've terminated Zodiacza, too :((
@alanmelder16
@alanmelder16 11 жыл бұрын
i came for the rope but stayed for the brittish
@dchambers986
@dchambers986 8 жыл бұрын
It was the industrialization and mechanization - i.e. technology, that eliminated the need for child labor in the developed world - not government or socialism, which like to take credit for others efforts.
@archanth
@archanth 8 жыл бұрын
+David Chambers Yes and no. Check the National Archives: "The successful exploitation of child labour was vital to Britain's economic success in the 19th century. In 1821, approximately 49% of the workforce was under 20. In rural areas, children as young as five or six joined women in 'agricultural gangs' that worked in fields often a long way from their homes. Although a law against the employment of children as chimney sweeps was passed as early as 1788, young people - because of their size and agility - were still used in this role for much of the 19th century. It was also during this period that people started to recognise the importance of education for children (only a minority, mostly from the wealthy ruling class, had any kind of formal schooling at the beginning of the century). Under the Factory Act, textile factories were ordered to provide at least two hours of education daily for children under the age of 13. Towards the end of the 19th century attitudes towards children shifted further. The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) was founded in 1889; and earlier, in 1870, the Education Act had brought huge changes. The Act put in place the building blocks for a free and compulsory education system. Gradually, every child in Britain was introduced to schooling. By the late 19th century, children's lives were beginning to be transformed. They were going to school instead of work, and being treated as children instead of 'little adults'. With the protection of the law, many could now avoid the exploitation of their childhood and gain an education. The case of Martha Appleton in 1859 highlights the terrible working conditions thousands of children across Britain endured every day in the 19th century. As a 13-year-old textile worker in Wigan, Martha was employed as a 'scavenger', picking up loose cotton from beneath machinery. On one particular day, Martha fainted and caught her left hand in an unguarded machine. In the accident, all her fingers were severed. Martha lost her job because she was no longer able to work efficiently. Changes came in 1833 when the *Factory Act* was passed. The Act not only created the post of factory inspector, but also made it illegal for textile factories to employ children less than 9 years of age. The Act came at a time when reformers like Richard Oastler were publicising the terrible working conditions of children, comparing the plight of child labourers to that of slaves. The timing was significant: slavery was abolished in the British empire in 1833-4. Further *legislation limiting child labour in factories* was introduced in *1844, 1847, 1850, 1853 and 1867*. After 1867 no factory or workshop could employ any child under the age of 8, and employees aged between 8 and 13 were to receive at least 10 hours of education per week. But such legislation was not foolproof. Inspectors often found it difficult to discover the exact age of young people employed in factories, and reports showed that factory owners did not always provide the hours set aside by law for education." Poverty creates desperation, and greed encourages exploitation. Love costs. Parents in the "developing" world *still* send their children to work, and still sell their children into prostitution.
@zxg77215
@zxg77215 11 жыл бұрын
The mask in opening scares my shxt out.
@TheLapizProductions
@TheLapizProductions 11 жыл бұрын
trolling expedition
@nvianin
@nvianin 11 жыл бұрын
I came here from "Mr President"....
@Postghost
@Postghost 11 жыл бұрын
Wow, you got a lot to learn about friction then, methinks you should ignore what WCherokeeW tells you and, proceed with googling friction..
@KosukiFire
@KosukiFire 9 жыл бұрын
If its not broke.... Dont fit it!
@babbu1master
@babbu1master 11 жыл бұрын
/watch?NR=1&v=KA9zDfYio6c (Y) ...
@josho5108
@josho5108 8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Englishmen using English units of measure. We'll never give up miles in 'Merica!
@vietnam2013
@vietnam2013 11 жыл бұрын
as a typical Chinese would do, completely misunderstood the question and spit out irrelevant garbage.
@Koralreefcarbon
@Koralreefcarbon 11 жыл бұрын
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