Dwelling to the bottom, the conclusion and the various scenarios that could have happened to all those precious babies. What is your verdict after hearing my case ?
Пікірлер: 121
@CharlesH-lg4jo7 ай бұрын
Arroz as so many of your subscribers never miss an episode and we are so enthralled with these furry little relatives of ours ,we can't thank you enough for helping us to understand what could have happened to them Thank you from the bottom of my heart!!!❤
@jennifer2947 ай бұрын
Your absolutely right, If I miss a episode when they come on it's watched before I go to bed. i sure hate what has happened 😢
@venetabritt27717 ай бұрын
RIP Bernie, Bubbly and Bossy's unnamed son. Play in monkey heaven with all those who have gone before.
@Judith-rx7zr7 ай бұрын
🙏
@marciaanderson99387 ай бұрын
Mr AM. I very much enjoy your investigative and logical mind on your series. I think this idea of a recessive gene seems quite plausible. Your compassion for both the mothers and their babies will always outshine the VO’s. I noticed many jumped to that immediate conclusion of baby monkey kidnapping. But you convince me otherwise. I know someone suggested a viral disease, but those types of diseases are far more communicable and think we would see more. And I think of gestation- did the pregnant moms all consume or bump into same toxin? Being a reservoir, here in US, no pesticides should be near that water. Keep the theories coming. A truly fine series that you released this week. Thank you.
@suejackson34677 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder what happened yet no one may ever know it's a tragedy for bossy and her family as well as Gypsy
@capecodandbeyond7 ай бұрын
I am hoping for no more sad stories…too many babies are gone already…too soon! 😢
@tonya86527 ай бұрын
Bubby was such a great mother , motherhood suited her well she seemed like a well seasoned mother. And in the last video of her she seemed to be looking for her sweet girl. I pray next birthing season will be more successful for them all
@jeaniehorton59647 ай бұрын
At the beginning of this video l didn’t know Bossy had lost her baby as well. What an unbelievable tragedy for this family! I wish we had some definitive answers as to what happened. RIP little ones!❤
@BrokenWingsSC7 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining the laws in Hong Kong regarding poaching. I believe it is because we see it so much on other channels that is kind of what I thought might have happened. But i am thankful Hong Kong is so strict on poaching or selling or even having one as a pet. I do wish other countries would adopt and push those laws as well .Thanks AM❤
@challenges74197 ай бұрын
Makes sense why Bossys son had that different look about him. Whatever the case may be, my heart goes out to the royal family and friends. I know I love each baby in our gang and I hate that any of them pass away. I’m so glad you made it clear (again) that nobody steals monkey babies in Hong Kong. I wonder if it will or has crossed Bossys mind that it could be bc of Lowry, and if so when will she give him the boot? They know not to mate with their kids and siblings so it would not surprise me if Bossy figured that on her own. I love my Monkey Hill family and I pray for God to watch over them every day. Goodnight y’all ! It’s 10:03 PM at my home and I’m off to bed.
@trishplanck97767 ай бұрын
I’m curious if Lowry sired Gypsy’s baby as well, if so then it would seem there is a genetic connection to the loss of these precious babies.😢 It’s definitely been a horrific year for our gang.🥺 Thank you for helping us understand what has happened Arroz.🙏
@jeaniehorton59647 ай бұрын
One parting comment… after seeing that last close up of Bossy’s baby… not to make disparaging remarks but he just didn’t appear as the other babies. His facial features were off. Someone commented on Down’s syndrome and l don’t even know if that is a condition possible in monkeys or would cause an early death. To my eye, his facial features were not as the other babies but perhaps that means nothing. At any rate, again, RIP little ones….
@lakesidesusan67457 ай бұрын
A little cross eyed???
@vg77357 ай бұрын
Very heartbreaking. I hope their 2024 babies will be healthy and long lived.
@lakesidesusan67457 ай бұрын
These little ones are so cute & loved by their families! Our hearts hurt when one is lost! Thank you Uncle AM. It must really hurt you as well. 💖💖💖
@kendee_7 ай бұрын
You can always tell which nipple is the baby's favorite by how blistered it looks, poor moms go through a lot. A great write up by AM this week, ultimately it's very likely Bossy Baby and Bubbly were lost to a car accident or fall. Bossy's age might also call into question her reflexes and ability to move quickly if she lost hers to a fall. Hopefully next year fares better for the family.
@jennifer2947 ай бұрын
My heart breaks for Bossys family as well as Gypsy, Thank You Mr AM, 🙏🏻 RIP PEACE LITTLE ONE'S
@tonya86527 ай бұрын
Thank you MR.AM this was a very good video and helps to make better sense of this tragedy
@melissa77456 ай бұрын
Her eyes😔you can see her sadness and dispare in her eyes .Breaks my heart .
@sarariachy84737 ай бұрын
Thank you AM for the explanation of this question But still sadly to accepted it 😢😢❤
@smc130Ай бұрын
Hope springs eternal for these moms when they lose a baby. They continue to try to produce a healthy baby. God bless them all.
@mamaboocee7 ай бұрын
This is what I was saying - babies are highly unlikely to be stolen from any troops in Hong Kong whatsoever, or sent out of the country even.
@CrystalLoMonkey7 ай бұрын
This series has been so hard for me to watch 😣, to see their lil faces that were so innocent looking and supposed to have a long life ahead, but to wither too fast and too soon. I hope the situation will improve next year 😢.
@deanalavecchia28517 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing these videos , so sad but sweet. Looking back now even when the babies seemed to be doing well they still had a sickly , pale look to them in my opinion. Whatever is was RIP to these beautiful sweet angels 😇😇😇 and prayers for the moms. 💔🙏
@shannonspage93607 ай бұрын
Of course the loss of a baby will effect them. It's the care of a defencless offspring that is 100% depended on their care. Without them they went from busy and having purpose to quickly nothing. Without the baby there isn't much else for them to do, if someone doesnt want to say they are depressed they could likely agree to at least they are bored. No baby to wrestle with and struggle to keep close or chase down when they decide to climb unexpectingly and not to her agreement. Their little bundle to groom and snuggle, to cuddle up with after a long day for a nights sleep. Their family group will be very quiet come weaning season. It gives them all the year to regain health and hopefully they will all be lucky again early in the birthing season. The ladies have each other still, bossy's house is still gaining in reproductive aged females.
@geminichalimar7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your insights AM. It's unfortunate that Kiddy got lost in all of this though. By my math (not my strong suit), this troop lost 18% of the babies. I think that is normal in the wild. What is abnormal is they were all lost in a cluster and that is why this seems so tragic and the fact that all, but one were within one family. I don't believe there was anything nefarious either. IMO, as I commented on the previous video, I believe Bossy's boy had a genetic condition. I think Bubbly fell. Bubby was an inexperienced mom and I think they were in a tree, Bubbly got loose, lost her grip. While she was ill, I don't think that was the cause. Kiddy, it's hard to say, but it could be the same. I don't think it would have been a fight for either Kiddy or Bubbly, because neither mom seemed to be wounded. I would expect that if a fight was bad enough to kill their babies, mom would have visible wounds. As for Berny, we know he was sick. I think he was born ill. As mentioned, he was lethargic from the start. He could have picked up something in utero or during birth. If he were a human baby, I think the term is "failure to thrive". This of course is all conjecture and we can onl6 keep guessing. I am hoping this is it for this troop this year and all the rest of Bossy's troop thrive and survive.
@jackiesrockincooke14137 ай бұрын
Thank you A.M for explaining the law of hong kong with our fur family. It always worries me that with disappearances that poaching might be a possibility.
@jcgraham88087 ай бұрын
I had, in prior comment, begun to conclude there was some problem with theirbgeneology and speculated the same father possessed a gene that was not playing well with these mothers. It makes sense the alpha could father all three of those, but what a mess for future generations as there is definitely some wandering around with Larry’s DNA already. This seems it may rest on Mother Natures ledger for the need to prevent total collusion of the bloodline in the troop. In my mind, this is the only likely cause of these three specific babies death. It's so unlikely they all die from different reasons in such a short period of time.
@nells19717 ай бұрын
Moms look so sad. Understandable. I am glad it is not a result of kidnapping by humans. But still, sad.
@paulforder5917 ай бұрын
A real tragedy that all three babies' lives were somehow cut short. It's hard to comprehend . However it happened, may the next birthing season make up for the loss of these three little charmers. 😢😭😿💔💔
@JohnnygSawyer7 ай бұрын
Wow, that is so sad 😭 Great editing Mr.A
@toddbowers56737 ай бұрын
Has to be the amount of milk produced because of age or falling out of a tree while mom sleeps. The last baby was a worm who moved all over the place.
@shannonspage93607 ай бұрын
Bam...i thought genetics seemed to make the most sense. I had mentioned possable recessive disorder in one posts on the previous videos. The babies all had the same colored fur as well. Alpha family group would certainly want their baby to be fathered by the choice male. I had always figured that is part of the reason an male will usually only be alpha for the maximum of 5 years, after that point the potiential of mating with one of his daughters starts to go up quickly. Alpha female wouldn't want her daughters to have to select from the Mr FixerUpper choices.
@jasonk52487 ай бұрын
No, no one is stealing a baby from monkey hill. Maybe a yearling. By luring it into a vehicle with food and driving off. Bit definitely not a baby.
@smc1307 ай бұрын
This is tragic. There seemed to be no illness among them. Is there any chance it was genetic?
@margaretkieckhefer75747 ай бұрын
Bossy's son looked like he might have had Down's Syndrome. Notice the fold at his eyes.
@yvonneconte30407 ай бұрын
I thought so too
@venetabritt27717 ай бұрын
I just thought he was extra wrinkley even his body had wrinkles.
@vg77357 ай бұрын
Bossy isn't the most attractive monkey so maybe just looks more like her. Although it could be an indication of genetic abnormality like you said.
@ceciliaSF-TX7 ай бұрын
Don’t think he had Downs.
@monicaalvin82397 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@sallysorrentino40137 ай бұрын
3 babies same family musta been contagious illness
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
No way. More would have caught it. They’re all together and groom each other
@debvit23537 ай бұрын
What about Gypsy’s?
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
Right
@sandrabentley81117 ай бұрын
But would Bossy really court Lowry? The other two perhaps. I do think the gene theory is plausible and Lowry needs to be on his way to enter another troop. But, like you say AM we really won't know until next years babies, assuming he is still in Bossy's troop.
@yvonneconte30407 ай бұрын
Matriarch only mates with alpha
@jcboom68947 ай бұрын
AM may be on to something if Lowry is the father of these babies,it could well be genetics. I think AM is right about them not being stolen by humans, he knows them well and does not attempt to touch any of the adults, let alone the well guarded babies. AM, why is Carpark Troop moving to Golden Hill Road? I thought they got the most human food of all the troops. Is Carpark Troop getting too big for the carpark?
@3mm3f7 ай бұрын
i wonder if its possible for Arroz to make another Familial tree chart again? only this time make a note of who might have fathered the babies with their respective mothers within our troop? I remember he had done this when Cocky was still Alpha and his favorite lady was Stacy & could have fathered most of her offsprings. Now quite possibly most of Lancy's clan at the very least the much older boys. Grandee with his lady loves Ridgy & Dolly. Taggy sired half of Reddy's babies.
@suejackson34677 ай бұрын
Maybe bubbly got away from Mom and got hit by a car or fell climbing we will never know
@debrajohnson80307 ай бұрын
I think your right am!!!
@nadishak7 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if it is something in Lowry's genes. I hope and pray Reddy and Dimpy's babies will be fine since they are more likely to be Lowry as well. What happened to Taggy? He was a lesser Alpha in the troupe.
@kendee_7 ай бұрын
Taggy disappeared a couple months ago, he was never ousted so he likely died of old age.
@anngifford90537 ай бұрын
Taggy also when they took his collar off they also sterilized him. So sad for could no longer produce babies
@smc130Ай бұрын
Bossy’s troop needs to bring in some new males for breeding. The bachelor troops should be encouraged to roam far and wide!
@NonnasNursery007 ай бұрын
Love ❤️
@catg.90347 ай бұрын
5:13 You can tell by Mom's teats how swollen they are that she's engorged with milk 🥛 from not nursing. RIP to all the beautiful babies.
@jenniferkelley37777 ай бұрын
I've definitely been thinking it's an issue with the mating male as well. At first i thought maybe VD but they survived too long for that i think.🤔 too closely related is definitely possible though. So sad cuz they are just the cutest lil ones and the mamas are heart broken.
@BrokenWingsSC7 ай бұрын
It sure is beautiful there
@kitti.r.est.19627 ай бұрын
Hey everyone! AM i dont believe someone walked up & snatched the babies as much as someone making them scatter and a light darts, i also believe they are being targeted with all my cousins being fed something that sickens the babies, however bubbly pulled through, Something did happen for me it’s tooo much of a coincidence 🤷🏽♀️
@user-ip4ij3oq8r7 ай бұрын
I think is Larry it’s to much of a coincidence.
@leslie69386 ай бұрын
Thank you AM for again addressing the persistent but wrong idea that monkeys are stolen there in Hong Kong like in other places in the world. I'm sorry that you have to keep addressing the same wrong ideas over and over, but hopefully you've put the idea to rest for at least awhile!
@sp.8.87 ай бұрын
Climb high little one's, you found that mystical big old tree in the forest and climbed up and now are free to run play and feed all you want , until its time to come back again....one day . Until then Be Happy and free
@debvit23537 ай бұрын
Hi all
@yvonneconte30407 ай бұрын
Hi
@dtulip17 ай бұрын
This us so sad i wonder what and why alot 😢 sadly nature knows when something shouldn't be....if Lowry is too close genetically that could definitely be a factor....still sad tho
@Kmerch467 ай бұрын
The genetic issue makes the most sense. As much as dare devils they are whats the odds all of them hijacked a feeder car and lost 3 babies. I really thought illness in the mother at first they are close knit but is there an infection thst would only affect a few nursing mothers and not the others?
@carolinemole46677 ай бұрын
Hi guys 😊
@debvit23537 ай бұрын
Hi Caroline. How are you sweetie?
@PamPreston787 ай бұрын
Hi sweet Caroline. How are you?
@carolinemole46677 ай бұрын
@@PamPreston78I'm good how about you ❤
@carolinemole46677 ай бұрын
@@debvit2353good and you hun?😊
@PamPreston787 ай бұрын
@@carolinemole4667 all is well here. Hubband went to the deer woods for several days, came home early but tired…71 y/o with long Covid has affected his stamina. But he had a good time and didn’t kill anything. So that worked out. When he was 16 he started going to the deer woods with his dad and uncles and was the youngest one there. Now he’s the oldest and his cousins and their kids are there.
@1n1people7 ай бұрын
MR AM could that be caught in the cage?
@kayburgess85367 ай бұрын
I still think that a few of them were stolen those people have it down how to do it even as far as taking it away from mother so many in same family
@leslie69386 ай бұрын
No, extremely unlikely for all of the reasons AM has outlined. Please rewatch this and previous video if you missed his explanations. In addition there is zero evidence of any abductions in Hong Kong, at least in the last 7 years when AM has filmed regularly and long term viewers have been watching.
@user-cw7iu6le5p7 ай бұрын
Hey gang!
@debvit23537 ай бұрын
Hi Charles. I hope all is well with you.
@PamPreston787 ай бұрын
Hiya Charles. Good to see you here. 😅
@carolinemole46677 ай бұрын
Hi @user-cw or @Charles 😮
@yvonneconte30407 ай бұрын
Hi
@CharlesH-lg4jo7 ай бұрын
@@carolinemole4667yes Ickie it's your very dear friend Charles!❤
@sanclementekid7 ай бұрын
They do not know what death is. But they feel the loss. Two healthy babies from one family is a mystery. We will never know for sure. Rogue males from another troop could be a possibility.
@JenStriff7 ай бұрын
I wonder if Lowry is related somehow
@JenStriff7 ай бұрын
I should of held off until the end lol
@lindatate70537 ай бұрын
Is it possible dy or the others kidnapped and they died from hunger
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
You wouldn’t be able to do that to the matriarch
@lindatate70537 ай бұрын
@@A-Spicy-Pepper they were her daughters and I remember dy taking one of her babies once but bossy ignored her and she finally let the baby go. But was mostly referring to bubby. She took one of bessy daughters once that passed. Don’t know if bessy ever got her back or if that is why she died
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
@@lindatate7053 I’ve never seen Dy do that. I may have missed it
@lindatate70537 ай бұрын
@@A-Spicy-Pepper arroz talked about it in the video when it happened but I can’t remember which baby it was of bossy. I will try to find it later today. Gotta get up at 4. Had woke up and checked the time when I saw your reply
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
@@lindatate7053 ok ty
@kevintroy43297 ай бұрын
Why wasn't Bossys baby given a name!? At least posthumously .😢
@A-Spicy-Pepper7 ай бұрын
We only saw a glimpse of it one time. Then it was gone It was so cute too
@amgguy43197 ай бұрын
Predator. Most likely. That's why there was nothing for her to carry around, it was taken.
@lakesidesusan67457 ай бұрын
I'm still thinking wild hogs!???
@3mm3f7 ай бұрын
hmmm not too sure in this generation now. GREED is a powerful motivation. people do a lot of stupid things for far less. but i do pray that bossy (her whole clan) and the whole troop for that matter fair better in the end. we (all of us) whether directly or indirectly have been intrusive enough (loss of ground/habitat/vegetation). their home is under siege all in the name of urban development. 😒😤😡🤬smh
@LitpalLitpal7 ай бұрын
You underestimate them poachers 🙄😈
@leslie69386 ай бұрын
Please think critically. Do you have ANY evidence whatsoever of this occurring, if so please present it. Otherwise, do you really think you know more than AM about the macaques in Hong Kong? He, and others, have provided several reasons this is highly unlikely and have provided information to substantiate these reasons. If you have or know contrary info, please provide it, otherwise perpetuating an idea in your head as though it is likely despite the educated views of people there on the scene only enables misinformation to flourish among people who don't possess enough knowledge to know better.