Well we got Tekken 8 on the Horizon and I know a lot of you are very interested, but I also know a lot of you don't know much about 3d fighters. That's ok! Even if you are a SF or Guilty Gear vet, we all gotta start somewhere and thankfully playing other 2D fighting games will help you out when you start on your 3D fighter journey, but there are some particulars that don't easily translate over, so lets talk about them! Give the vid a watch, like if you liked it, and hope this helps you out!

Another thing is that characters don't have invulnerability when launched or knockdowns. So you can beat people who are on the ground and don't have to wait for them to stand up.

Worth noting that the Tekken 8 move-lists specifically highlight your characters most important attacks, so you don't even need to guess by looking at the full list yourself!

Oh my god. For most of my life, Tekken was pretty much the only fighting game I played, so I instinctively stand blocked most of the time without even knowing the mechanics there. I've been playing Guilty Gear and Street Fighter a lot these past several years, so I had no idea why I was getting blown up so badly when I was playing the closed beta lmao.

This is probably the last video for a bit over the holiday barring breaking news or surprise trailer drops. The majority of this channels life I have covered 2D fighting games(even though the first FG I covered "for real" was actually Tekken 7 at launch, fun fact!) so I feel like I got a bit of a duty to help ease everyone into Tekken with the upcoming launch cause its obviously gonna be a pretty big deal! Expect all the usual guides at launch and just probably a lot of Tekken 8 coverage in general in 2024. Need someone on the side of the hero characters like Kuma to help balance out all the mishima fans after all!

Great (and timely) video idea, as I’m sure a lot of us are in the same boat. Tried to get into Tekken 7 a while ago, but felt pretty overwhelmed by all the changes from 2D. This video does a really great job of breaking down the essential differences and offering helpful tips to adapt. Appreciate the effort!

Random but this month you’ve been killing it, on here and twitter. Thank you

Man I love your content your one of if not the best fighting game creators. I needed this, after getting into sf6 as my first fighting game, you’ve helped me with sf6, mk1, granblue, and now tekken.

Ending the year with one of the best videos for someone trying to get into Tekken after years of 2D fighters with 8. Merry christmas and can't wait for another year of excellent educational content

Thank you for all the lovely and informative videos this year, and next year.

Yeah, when switching between 2D and 3D fighting games, I immediately noticed that blocking worked a lot differently. In 2D fighters, low attacks come fast and overheads usually take longer. In 3D fighters high and mid attacks come out quickly whereas low attacks are usually slower. The defensive options in 3D fighters also makes the barrier to entry very steep. For every character, there's a multitude of defensive options and just as many offensive options.

Thank you so much for the content, was thinking about getting Tekken because customization looks insane, but was hesitant because I didn't know what transferred and what didn't. Thank you for an awesome year and have a merry Christmas!

Happy Christmas Eve, Roof. You’ve been killing it this Year and I’m always glad for you and your videos. I hope that you have a fantastic rest of your year. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. And as always I will continue to go out and enjoy some fighting games. Even if I’m the youngster (19) showing older people (no offense) that we love fighting games. So let’s go out and enjoy the rest of the year and fighting games.

Very helpful vid. I’ve been sitting on the fence for a while over getting into Tekken. Keep going back to what I know I like. But this helps give a little more confidence to expand the horizons.

The only 3D fighter I ever played was Tekken 5 back in 2006 and back then I had no clue how to play fighting games and would just mash buttons lol. I'm very excited for T8 but going from 2D to 3D definitely has me feeling a bit intimidated. It feels very foreign to me. I played the demo for 8 and absolutely loving it even though I don't understand that much of it. I didn't realize that the huge move lists don't really matter which has me with a sigh of relief because I thought maybe I had to learn a majority of those moves but turns out I can just look at the best moves to learn at first. Though one thing I learned is it's probably good to pick a main in Tekken and REALLY stick with that main you like just due to how much each character is capable of

Utilize sidestep after your combos, whether they land or they’re blocked. Gives you an advantage for any poor tracking moves your opponent throws out. Some characters have fast attacks with good tracking though

Great vid! I recently realized the whole thing about 3d fighters having a greater focus on varied defensive options is why I keep coming back to tekken over other fgs (even if I still love them as well)

Glad to see more talk about Tekken. It's the most satisfying fighting game around so we need more players to share in that satisfaction.

I DID NOT KNOW that mids can hit while crouch blocking! Thanks, you learn something new every day!😁

Loved the video , if you have anymore im sure we would love to hear you out

that steam notification sound got me lol, but good video. this is the kind of thing that i needed

This is insanely helpful thanks!

Thanks for letting me know about the demo!!!

Not to take out of this subject of this video but I just want to say that this has been a great year for fighting games and other in general. With releases like Street Fighter 6 & Mortal Kombat 1 to updated versions of the current games like Dragon Ball Fighterz & Granblue Fantasy getting rollback netcode. As to getting announcements of other fighting games coming soon like Tekken 8 & Project L which looks all amazing. Granted there are some major problems that are still being annoyed with such as microtransactions, cheating, bug fixes and other but still the future looks bright for fighting games as these things can and hopefully be sorted out going into 2024. That being said just wanted to wish you Rooflemonger and your family a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. And to everyone else go out and play some fighting games.

Interesting, since there was a 2D fighting game drought when I got into these games, I've played a lot of Tekken and Soul Calibur, but never quite got 2D fighters, felt stiff to me and I did not know how to play, 3D felt like a more natural transition to the action games I've played. Now with the first and current Granblue game, BlazBlue, Guilty Gear and especially Street Fighter 6 the switch figuratively clicked and I could retroactively play older 2D fighters I had problems with before. And I noticed at GamesCom playing Tekken 8 that this might be a one way switch, or Tekken 8 plays totally different than the previous parts, however, I had my problems with it. So this video now makes sense to me. ^^

So excited man 3d fighters feel more natural to me, can’t wait for next month!

I've been diving into loads of Tekken tutorials with the T8 demo getting my hype, this couldn't have released at a better time!

I'm a KOF player, and bought Tekken 7 (yes, just because of Geese) some months ago. The move list really is scary and I have a hard time crouching or jumping instead of side stepping. I'm still more inclined to 2D games, but 3D have their cool perks and this video should be a great help for people like me. Thanks mate! Much respect and please come to Brazil.

As someone who played Tekken for a bit and left (netcode), this was a nice refresher. If you can, a video covering the opposite transition would be nice. I have friends that have played 3D fighters all their lives, but struggle to adjust to 2D fighters, so if you could go more depth into the differences, I think that would help a lot.

Very good point about the movelist size. People forget that SF's characters have a bunch of buttons that are parallel to many Tekken moves.

A Rooflemonger Christmas gift ❤

Thanks for this guide! Looking forward to the Tekken 8 coverage 👍🏽

Thanks for this! I'm a long time 3d fighter, played competitive Tekken Tag Tournament, Soul Calibur 2, and Tekken 4 way back in the day. It's been a while but I'm excited to see more people get into these!

You’re always making the exact kind of videos that I need. Thank you for all your content 🙏

Thanks for this Roof. I copped Tekken 8 and am waiting to expand my fighting game knowledge thanks to this. 🦍

I have been playing Tekken almost as long as I have been playing SF, which is to say, since the early ‘90s, and only now did I learn that mids are all overheads as a rule. LOL. I mean, I guess I sorta knew because I knew what a Special Mid was, like T3 WGF. But to realize it’s a rule and why I don’t crouch block on instinct in Tekken just opened my eyes to stuff I unconsciously learned without properly identifying it. I still won’t ever be a competitive Tekken player, but stuff like this helps make things click for people like me. Thank you!

One of the things that sounds obvious but took me forever to understand with Tekken is that if you want to figure out the input to do a move your opponent did, you can usually look at the limbs to know which button and guess the direction.

Super helpful, much appreciated!!!

Much love.💪🏾💙

Haha the bear gently touching her face at 1:54 😂

great vid for those of us who are new to the scene with SF6 or MK1 and are wondering about Tekken. thanks!

Never played 3D fighter but takken 8 demo got me in a choke hold. Vid help me beat my ghost thank you Rooflemonger

I think it's great characters in Tekken have so many moves, mirror matches are more interesting with knowledge checks

I should have known you play Kuma.. Keep up the good work, Roof!

Very well made video.

Best fighting game video ever! Thank you for your wisdom!

Merry Crimbus Mr Roofle!

I remember teaching my friend tekken. It took a while since he’s been playing street fighter and anime games since sf4. The two things he struggled with were crouch blocking so I soccer kicked him to death. The other was not knowing how to punish lows. I found out how unintuitive was punishing was since I had only played tekken 7 up until that point.

Been playing the Tekken 8 demop religiously since it dropped on PC. This definitely feels like a somewhat easier Tekken to pick up and made me do a 180 on Jin. I liked T3 Jin and really couldn't get into him in T7 but his gameplay is CRAZY FUN in T8!

just want to add to your Paul thing when he was doing hammerfist. if you think a low is coming, don't do a hopkick or other lowcrush move, because if you're wrong you're getting floated for a combo, block it instead for that guaranteed launch. merry x-mas Rooflemonger and chat.

Tekken just a month away also Merry Christmas

As someone who only plays Tekken : cool video man, merry christmas

Whew! This is such a hard jump. So glad I grew up playing Tekken, MVC2 and SF. God speed to all your first timers

I've dabbled with Tekken a bit over the years but no where near to the extent I have other fighters. Tekken seemed very intimidating compared to the other fighters out there but I'm deffo going to be giving Tekken 8 a good go. Thanks and all the best to you and yours :)

Thank you

Just from the title i know this video is for me, im a huge fan of fighting games and have been introducing myself to more fighting games like street fighter 6 was the first time i played a street fighter game, strive also first guilty gear game, and now tekken 8 will be the next thing i dive into but man im well unprepared yet eager and excited to get into the nitty gritty of tekken 8

Been playing T7 for about two weeks and this video couldn’t have come at a better time….Roofle for President

I’m a fighting game ONLY type of guy. I love how Tekken’s moves pass on to the next! Though MK was my first love, I have never liked the idea of learning how to play (pick a new main) all over again. SF6 & KI on the other hand, keep on satisfying me in other new ways. My hat is off for Tekken and I can’t wait!!

Good one

I'm using this video in reverse because I had a long past with 3D fighters and started to get serious in Virtua Fighter 5 FS and really only small amounts of 2D ones.

This video is where I'd put my virtua fighter 6 if I had one

Thank you so much Roofle-sama! That inverse blocking tip really saved me a lot of confusion, frustration and possibly a new controller😂😂

Thank you friend

The thing to consider is whether you want to enjoy 2D fighting games, I used to be a big Mortal Kombat fan, then I started to play Tekken and honestly, 2D games now just seem like it was made for babies - and it's not even players' fault, it's just even if you use your whole movelist it seems as if you spammed small amount of attacks over and over cuz Tekken has more completely different moves, in 2D you just walk, in some instance dash, jump and block, this seems pale compared to sidestepping or special movement techniques such as korean back dash or wave dash - may not be the general case, but from my experience once you truly det into Tekken, there is no return to 2D

Also, if you're interested in moving from 2D to 3D, have fun! and don't take your rank/skill seriously because this game is TOUGH to get used to for newcomers to this genre. You'll get it eventually as you play, and don't spend hours in the lab labbing a specific thing because that'll take all the fun away. Happy Holiday's folks!

I had the reverse transition of coming from 3D fighting games to 2D. It took so long for me to unlearn stand blocking as the default block lol But now that I've played more 2D fighting games lately, this video is a good refresher!

Love the video. As a Tekken player I wish there was a video for the opposite. 2d fighters are so difficult for me 😂

Because I play SCVI I don't really need this video, but this is a fantastic idea for those who really don't touch 3D fighting games. The trouble I'm having with the Tekken 8 demo the Tekken specific stuff. It's controls are whacked out compared to SC, it also feels as well.

This video is great! I have played Tekken casually since T3 and recently tried Street Fighter for the first time (SF6). I found it to be limiting, frustrating, and sluggish. I didn't have the technical vocabulary to articulate what was wrong with it exactly, but this video says it all.

great video

Not to get into too much Tekken minutia, but it's worth mentioning that you can sidestep from a crouch, but only to your character's left.

I could've used this video the other way around as a Tekken player lol. I've been playing SF6 for a little while but I've only just gotten out of the habit of randomly stand blocking (which I have from Tekken) after doing a move that's like -3 on block. Cause I'm so used to just holding back to not get hit in Tekken after doing something that's quite minus but safe on block.

id love to see the reverse, as a person who played tekken before sf and other 2D games, the adjustment was horrendous, neutral felt so different, agression, the corner, airborne moves, etc were so hard to learn

The hardest thing to learn in tekken is the input timing, you need to press the direction + input at the same time, Down Foward 2 is different from holding Down + Foward and pressing 2. It took me time to get used it

idk why they arent more 3D fighters. They seem more realistic and provide more options. You dont have to worry about projectile spamming and being locked in a corner. What i hated about 2D fighters was that playing online would amount to someone spamming projectiles to keep you away and i had to keep jumping and blocking to get to them if my character didnt have proper projectiles.

I originate from Brawlhalla, and this shift in style is truly nice. It's going to be a nice journey, I hope.

Really nice video Roof. As a vision impaired fighting game player I have always struggled with 3D fighting games. Bought soulcallabar 6 last year and have hardly played it. I think it's because I can visualise 2D moves easier than 3D moves. So I find the distinction with rush down and zoners easier to comprehend than what ever 3D fighting games have. I loved Tekken 2, still do even though I don't have access to it, but I was never good at playing it. It is also easier to track someone when they can only move forwards or backwards, those side stepping moves can be difficult to work out. I have more I could say but I think this is enough for now. I respect 3D fighting games but for now they are not for me. Who knows, if Tekken 8 has some strong accessibility options that could all change.

I haven't played tekken since TT1 or T3. I'm mostly a street fighter player, but after trying all 4 characters on the demo... nobody clicked with me until I played Nina. This game is gorgeous and smooth! I only play Online VS so I hope that network is good!

Man, we are living through a fighting game renaissance

Something that might seem strange is that MK players (especially those that played a lot of MK11) might find themselves able to acclimate to Tekken quite easily. It's not something I can really explain off the dome, but there's a feeling of shared DNA between the two series, now more than ever. Those familiar with "traditional 2D fighters" might have a harder time though. Tekken has a completely different rhythm and those players will feel that a bit more than someone who isn't initiated in the fighting genre at all. More or less the same rules, just contextualized differently.

Also remember side step evasion works differently in different 3D fighters. Like in VF evades are success/fail, not hitbox based like in Tekken.

My first fg was tekken 7 and then when i played sf5 after, the oki in that game was a hell to me.

I’m coming from Tekken to 2ds and I struggled to force myself to crouch block lol

As a King main, I don't even do the chain grabs but usually just the RDC after a wavedash but mostly I just do a lot of pokes and Counter hit moves like b1, and focus more on punishing.

Fighters Megamix taught me that valuable crouch blocking lesson early on 😂

I been watching you for a month now from guilty gear to sf6 and im totally ready to keep watching with tekken! Great channel

Another thing for Tekken (not sure for other 3D fighters) but you can block while back dashing, which makes it a super strong get off me tool

If you want to get good the fastest way is sticking with one character especially in Tekken it takes much longer to completely understand a character imo. And if you‘re completely new to 3D don’t get frustrated you‘ll lose a lot of games simply bc you don’t know the Matchup.

The funny thing for me was that I was the complete opposite. I started with a 3D fighter and had to learn how to transition into 2D.

Damn, for the life of me I could not get into Tekken despite loving the style, characters and everything. No wonder I couldn't get into it, I was playing it as if it was a 2d fighter. Amazing work as always, hyped af for T8

I play King in Tekken and I have been playing him since Tekken 1 😮! I play all fighting games I can get my hands on and for 3d fighters SS is huge and just the sheer amount of moves each character has lol! King has so many moves and I try to remember them all from link throws to tracking moves to launchers! Hope you enjoy Tekken its well worth anyones time!

Let’s get it.

I grew up playing Tekken Tag Tournament but I've never been into fighting games so never really cared about playing it seriously. Spent a lot of time later on playing 2D ones like Mortal Kombat 9 and Injustice. But then I started plaSoul Calibur 6 and I like that one a lot more. Not just because it's 3D but also because you use weapons too

Thanks for the advices ! Tekken 8 will be my first 3d fighting game that I'll try to play seriously, I can't wait for it to launch ! There is also one thing that I find annoying in Tekken compared to like Street Fighter, it is the fact there is no such thing as lights, mediums and heavies, in Tekken the attacks are classified with Right arm, left arm, right leg and left leg. It makes things so hard to remember, the same button can be a fast hit in a string and a big heavy attack in another, is there something that I'm missing ? It really makes move lists difficult to learn for me

Man as a Tekken player when I play SF6, I can’t remember to crouch block for the life of me

I wanna meet the person who designed the outfits in this game. There all so good.

Having played the Tekken 8 demo, it seems easier to perform side steps. One issue I had with 7 (the one I've put any amount of time into) was how I was always jumping or crouching when I was trying to utilize the 3D space. I'm drawn to this series because my finger dexterity is rather poor, which makes executing long/precise combos difficult. Surprisingly, my fingers spaz out at the correct input rate for Tekken.

a big one that wasnt mentioned and maybe thats tekken specific is, that you can defend while retreating and cancel movement at any time.

Ive been fighting 2d fighting games my whole life and ever since I started playing 3d like tekken or virtua fighter Ive gotten into the 3D fighting genre ever since

Been getting my ass beat for 5 days. There's so much that makes no sense. Learning this after years of 2D fighting games is like trying to learn starfish language. Crouch blocking not working on mids is baking my brain. Fastest move being 10 frames is killing me in training mode when I see I'm +4 and my 2D fighter brain thinks I can link a jab afterward. The fact that there's never a point where my opponent can't combo me is maddening. What the fuck is oki in this game when you're never safe on the floor? What moves are punishable? It feels intuitive in a game like Street Fighter or even Granblue but in this game I can't always tell. And throw breaks being arm-dependent feels so subtle. With so much going on, how do you even notice? I'll learn it eventually I'm sure but right now it's just so frustrating. Gonna watch some more guides (got all your recent ones queued up) and hopefully something will start to click. Sorry to be a salty scrub but I had to get this out somewhere. Thanks for your hard work, Roof. Gonna be leaning on your knowledge a lot coming up.