MAKING YOUR OWN CELLS, MADE EASY. "FLIP AND SEPARATE" Easy Technique For Beginners

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4 жыл бұрын

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A Little About This Piece
FLIP & SEPARATE
This Technique Is Used For Working On Any Composition, By Separating The Design, While Holding On To Areas Of Interest..
Technique Used : Flip & Separate, Flip Cup..
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@jeang4931 3 жыл бұрын

Wow!!just love this technique, different...👍👍🙌

@MsBetsy2011 4 жыл бұрын

When you are showing the beautiful finished piece, the music makes it into a spiritual experience.

@rheapiffier884 2 жыл бұрын

You just unlocked my brain. Thank you!

@kateszatmari1979 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like my mind has been blown! Perhaps a funny thing to say BUT though I love to watch all the pours and the incredible results it creates I keep searching for something different. THIS is different. Fluid art meets abstract design! Beautiful, creative, inspirational. Thank you!

@soulenergyartsartistmariam8086 2 жыл бұрын

So fascinating! Beautiful and relaxing to watch!

@pennykay6381 4 жыл бұрын

Very unique! This is a good thing! Why roll with the other’s when you can rock it on your own! 😊👌

@FIONA21ful 4 жыл бұрын

You are so brave! I love how you are the one totally in control here.

@juanita920 2 жыл бұрын

Love it. Beautiful

@fraumerle2575 4 жыл бұрын

a wonderful result🌼

@theripestmango 3 жыл бұрын

Genius!

@beataswiderska-bildt7537 4 жыл бұрын

Wow!!!

@KB-es5he 4 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed by the self made cells. The whole painting feels to me like a sea creature - and then your 'cell-sections' evolve into octopus tentacles! Glorious!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comments! 🖐😀🙏

@lindabarthel1446 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how in the world I missed this? Beautiful Paul thank you 💖

@MarisasMoonlitCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Wow!!!!!!! Gorgeous

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@MarisasMoonlitCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome😊😊💗

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

@@MarisasMoonlitCreations Nice work on your channel.. Well done! 👍👏

@MarisasMoonlitCreations 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 wow.!!!!! I really appreciate that. Thank u so very much. I'm having loads of fun over here.

@jeanninemelleuish4204 2 жыл бұрын

Paul,I was mesmerised by this magnificent painting of yours.Its so different. Conratulations

@annagray6491 4 жыл бұрын

I see a horse with its left leg raised and a big fluffy purple tail!! Lovely!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@kassembros 4 жыл бұрын

This is a super awesome painting! Love it!!!!

@LorieWitt 4 жыл бұрын

Fricken Awesome!!!!! WOW

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment.. 🖐😀🙏

@k8paints 4 жыл бұрын

Your end product is amazing, I sure was sad watching all the gorgeousness flowing OFF the canvas though!;-)

@tanialake6994 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, just wow! Stunning!

@hollyxo. 4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating technique.

@kittyhawkinsaddart1356 4 жыл бұрын

That is gorgeous

@RBrown-zl6wo 4 жыл бұрын

Just beautiful!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@vetalverson7401 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely magical, that’s all❤️❤️❤️👍🥰🥰🥰

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Vet..🖐😀🙏

@annmariejholness1961 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@tlhpeach5450 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful...I am always mesmerized by your work. Thank you!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. 🖐😀

@cindycalderon455 4 жыл бұрын

I could watch this all day long!! Simply amazing! 👍😊💕

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Cindy!! 🖐😀🙏

@moma6343 4 жыл бұрын

stunning!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐🙏😀

@joycedavidson8702 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutley gorgeous.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@JoaBea4 4 жыл бұрын

Well, that's just spectacular! Love the cells! They even took on the colors under them so cool. I live it and thank you!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment! 🖐😀🙏

@osarene 4 жыл бұрын

Fabulous! The hand made cells take on a batik kind of look.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, batik, I see that! 🖐😀🙏

@joannebennie6106 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful!!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@minimenon5727 4 жыл бұрын

Just bow down my head with respect to the work of the Artist...!!Extraordinary....,depicting the cells...,feel..they showcase the outercovering...of the "heart"...,which is embedded deep inside the ...chest....comprising of the breathing system..as well.Whatever...G...r...e...a...t...Pour...

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the lovely comment.. 🖐😀🙏

@lindarebello9196 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely gorgeous Paul! WOW.

@wendie8290 4 жыл бұрын

I love seeing how others use this technique

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting.. Thank you for your comment.. 🖐😀🙏

@lindabarthel1446 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful 😍thanks Paul

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment! 🖐😀🙏

@susanbauer7048 4 жыл бұрын

Love the progression

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@naptimecreations 4 жыл бұрын

How cool, what an awesome technique. I love how it turned out. Fantastic 😁👍

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comments! 🖐😀🙏

@naptimecreations 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 😁😁😁

@mandyhall1674 4 жыл бұрын

Oooh love it, so very different thank you

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment 🙏🖐😀

@josiecapps2555 4 жыл бұрын

Lovely and well thought out👍🏻

@cathyherring6424 4 жыл бұрын

That’s gorgeous ❤️😇❤️😇😇

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐🙏😀

@drusydrama 4 жыл бұрын

Really beautiful.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@danddartgallery8834 4 жыл бұрын

I am awestruck.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the lovely comment 🖐😀🙏 Ps Great work on your channel.. Well done.. 👍👏

@danddartgallery8834 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. You are a gifted artist.

@drusydrama 4 жыл бұрын

I love your technique and your paintings are beautiful.

@lesleylang2530 4 жыл бұрын

OMG! you are so talented and love watching all your creations!

@karenmanson1782 4 жыл бұрын

👋 Paul. A 🌈 🦄 prancing . Gorgeous my friend.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

🖐 Karen, thanks so much for your comments! 😀🖐🙏

@coco758blessed 4 жыл бұрын

Genius... One of the best out there.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Corine, 🖐🙏😀

@robertawills7219 4 жыл бұрын

I confess that I thought your colours were horrible, thought you were almost finished and it was ugly, but WOW! It is beautiful! Don’t think I can do anything this complicated yet, but. Definitely will be trying it

@MadeForYouArt 4 жыл бұрын

So beautiful 😍 Love it❣️❣️

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@marianaalecu1540 4 жыл бұрын

AMAZING! YOUR WORK IS VERY INTERESTING! I LOVE IT! THANK YOU! 💓💓💓

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the lovely comment 🖐😀🙏

@IAMOYO 4 жыл бұрын

Wow this is absolutely amazing

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@adelevanniekerk1445 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that is what I call stunning! Thank you for the brilliant idea Paul.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Adele, Best of luck with the pouring!🖐😀🙏

@crislelia 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing beautiful Paul!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Cristina! 🖐😀🙏

@usherl250 4 жыл бұрын

Wow Paul....I have a new favorite 😀😀😀 I love it

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Laura!! 🖐😀🖐😀

@usherl250 4 жыл бұрын

paul startart 😘😘😘😘😘

@harrietblank6812 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this video. I can't wait to try this. The piece is beautiful!! I always have sooo much trouble making cells no matter what I use. Thank you.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Harriet, best of luck with the pouring 🖐😀🙏

@carolheeks3077 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing artwork ☺ unique & fascinating. Love it

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@geniferprice8596 4 жыл бұрын

This is really very beautiful. I wasn't sure when you started doing the cells but it turned out beautifully.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@jakiwoods8522 4 жыл бұрын

Morning *

@PattyPuckettPouringArt 4 жыл бұрын

Really like this one. I will have to try a metallic for my drops. 👏👍💗

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you,Patty.. 🖐 Lovely work on your channel..👏👍😃🙏

@dianemorrow4889 4 жыл бұрын

I just found you. Looks like cells in a lung! Any pulmonologist would love to have this representational work hanging on their wall! Beautiful! Using the imagination can come up with many other things hiding within your art! I love seeing how you separate out what you want to keep and what you want to escape from.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Diane, Art is truly a form of therapy - divination, for me.. Thank for the lovely comment.. 🙏🖐😀

@CheriBomzArt 2 жыл бұрын

💖👍👍👍

@sabinemaradhondt3682 4 жыл бұрын

So beautiful! Thank you for this inspiration 💫💎💫

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sabine. 🖐🙏😀

@sabinemaradhondt3682 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 💫💛💫

@retreivermomx2847 4 жыл бұрын

Paul this is so flipping cool!!! I just love to watch you create your magic!!! ❤️

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michelle.. 🖐😀🙏

@terrilynn8119 4 жыл бұрын

love the work, ideas, and music. was very relaxing to watch! thanks for sharing!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment 🖐😀🙏

@lindarebello9196 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Just stunning. ❤ Happy I just found you.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment, Linda 🖐😀🙏

@kathleenbridger7885 4 жыл бұрын

WOW this is absolutely beautiful don't know how you do it one stunning painting after another Your the master your talent has on end Thanks so much for sharing 😍🙏💙

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Soooooo much for the lovely comments Kathleen.. 😀🙏🖐😀

@lindamckendree2991 4 жыл бұрын

This is really gorgeous! Very beautiful!! I love the negative space and the cells. You make it look so easy. Thanks for sharing!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment,Linda.. 🖐🙏😀

@darlenebaldwin1398 4 жыл бұрын

💖

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

🖐👍🙏

@DorianneDelageArt 4 жыл бұрын

😍😍😍 so beautiful ! I'm always fascinated by your work... 👏👏👏 I'll try this technique bc it's absolutly gorgeous ! 💙💙💙

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comments, Do do. It's a great technique for adding interest.. 🖐😀🙏

@angelarae 4 жыл бұрын

Stunning Paul, wow, I am going to try this (without silicon) to make cells where I want them not where fate-and-happenstance wants them :-)

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Angela, Best of luck with the pouring!🖐😀🙏

@jakiwoods8522 4 жыл бұрын

Sooo facinatingly well done x A mythalogical thing of beauty ,unfolding its mprning breath....love it xx

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment, jaki.. 🖐🙏😀

@biner59 4 жыл бұрын

The master of fluid art! What will you come up with next😉. Stunning.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the lovely comment! 🖐😀🙏

@JanefleesTexas 4 жыл бұрын

This is lovely! I love your way of making more cells, they came out so great! I had a couple of questions though, but I haven’t watched any other of your videos yet, is there a reason you don’t use a torch? I know a torch helped me make cells. Also, I loved how you used a squeeze bottle to squeeze more titanium white under the colors you poured. I was wondering if you think that might work with a just pouring a couple of colors, maybe a puddle pour? I’m going to have to experiment now! I moved away from doing pours for awhile but this has inspired me to get back into it! Love this! Thanks!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Erica, thank you so much for your comment..I love to hear when people find my channel inspiring.. I only use the torch to pop any bubbles,over torching can ruin a piece in my opinion.. The squeeze bottle works fine in a puddle pour, usually adding more action to the overall finish.. All the very best with the pouring.. 🖐🙏😀

@CJDe-kx8of 4 жыл бұрын

I just love the non-entire canvas coverage! especially when cells are involved. The “negative space” really sets off the artwork/design and colors.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks CJ, 🖐😀🙏

@sandrabarrett-hoomani4822 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this piece! but was in tears by the end because of the sad music.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Sandra, Music is an important part of the process for me.. Unfortunately it's not possible to upload due to copyright.. Music and Art Can Evoke Strong Emotions.. Tears are healing.. Thank you for your comment.. 🙏🖐😀

@HeatherMaderArt 4 жыл бұрын

Paul thanks for sharing and beautiful! May I use this on my channel and credit you? I love the little separate cells strategically placed, and without silicone in those ones...right? The end piece reminds me of Elyse Fournier's work, if you are familiar. :)

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Heather Absolutely...... would love to see another's take on this technique, I'm sure you'll smash it... Elyse, is a great example of someone with their own style.. Alll paints react differently, maybe try experimenting before going for it? 🖐

@claudem673 4 жыл бұрын

Love watching you, work it’s mesmerizing. What do you use to as a finish clear coat?

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi claudette, I typically go for Golden, clear gloss varnish, but my favourite pieces get a resin finish using Art Resin. Thank you so much for your comment 🖐🙏😀

@ritabshea6268 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed watching the process but missed seeing the composition as a whole......I admired your finesse but would have enjoyed seeing the painting develop as you stretched it.

@tanialake6994 4 жыл бұрын

Rita B Shea but he did show him stretching it though?

@barbarachandler4430 4 жыл бұрын

It’s so beautiful but I wonder what makes you tilt off so much, after a tilt with the 1st “belt” slide off, do another and tilt it off. I loved it in all the stages, the colors are fabulous. I guess I saw 3 different paintings and they were exquisite,

@jessicagaray939 4 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable! Amazing! Can not wait to try this technique!!! Thank you for your inspiration!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🖐😀🙏

@jro9365 4 жыл бұрын

OMG !!!!! I JUST FELL IN LOVE !!! SERIOUSLY. !!! IVE been studying your videos for a few weeks and i cant wait to try the flip & separate especially and now you just made it even more intriguing !!!. I do have one question being newer to pouring can you please tell me the difference between Titanium white & just any other white like Artist loft flow white ??? Thank you so much for sharing this. I will end up watching it several times just to make sure im ready before i try. Might sound nerdy to some people but i feel if i am going to attempt to replicate an artists work i want to do the very best version i can. Thanks again

@Rainfeather1 4 жыл бұрын

Titanium white is heavier and thicker

@jro9365 4 жыл бұрын

@@Rainfeather1 oh ok thanks. I just notice that some artists use it in certain pours but not in others and I've seen comments about it being better in some techniques than others . Uuuggghhh. I have so much to learn about paints themselves ...things like this that will help me make educated decisions about what paints to use together and all that kinda stuff ... there is so much more to fluid art than people realize . Thank so much i really appreciate it !! 😉😉😉😉

@Rainfeather1 4 жыл бұрын

@@jro9365 im learning just like you are. I still consider myself a newbie. when i try to do stuff like hes done...i dont even come close..but its a learning experience and its for fun

@jro9365 4 жыл бұрын

@@Rainfeather1 yep exactly . I only pour for myself and just give the paintings to friends & family or anyone who will hsve them basically. Hahaha. But i really want to learn some of Pauls work for myself to keep if i can ever do one well enough. If you have a Facebook account and haven't done so already there are some good artists groups thst ypu can join and everyone just helps everyone and you can post your paintings there if you want or get advice if needed . Ive seen some pretty amazing art pieces posted and met a few really nice people that i can chat in private with to have 1 on 1 conversations. But im just one of those people that when i learn to.do something new i like to learn as much as i can about it. Lol im sure i wont come close to any of his work either but im sure gonna try my best . Id love to see the art everyday without having to see it on a video. Hahaha. Like living far from the beach staring at the ocean... you can see it on tv but nothing like being there !!! Lol

@Rainfeather1 4 жыл бұрын

@@jro9365 yeah im already in some of those groups on facebook..just havent been in recently busy getting stuff done for christmas . ive learned from those groups we are our own worst critic......seen some pretty amazing stuff but the one doing it didnt think so. good places tho

@tlhpeach5450 4 жыл бұрын

There is more going on here than meets the eye...So much symbolism in my perception... And then it all changes. I’m going to think on this for awhile. Goodnight

@Rainfeather1 4 жыл бұрын

wondered why you poured off so much of the paint seemed like a waste but then you get these beautiful cells that are outlined in colors.....and a marbling effect which is not easy to get . gave me something new to try as I am not happy with my outcomes in the last couple days........adding the cells at the end gave a really cool effect .......do they just spread on their own over time.? I would be worried that they would just sit there but yours didnt. Anyways as always love the effects ..........

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rainfeather, Re adding your own cells.. It all depends on how much liquid you drop in.. I tend to do larger ones at the edge reducing the amount as I move inwards.. They naturally swell over a forty minute time span so take that into account also.. Lots of potential there, tilting will throw up something different.. Best of luck with the pouring..👍🖐😀🙏

@Rainfeather1 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 i tried first one total fail second one kind of getting the idea of it ., wll keep trying lol

@cherieozga5879 4 жыл бұрын

A dragon taking flight

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🖐😀🙏

@artbydebrafarrell5197 4 жыл бұрын

Does the white need to be thinner than the colours for this to work Paul? Just stunning.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Debra, I don't follow a particular recipe when mixing. I'm pretty sure the consistency was similar to the rest of the colours used.. I'm guessing thinner would work too? Best of luck with the pouring. ps I mixed the white with some silver, metallics work really well for this technique 🖐😀🙏

@deborahlowy3982 4 жыл бұрын

Did you mix all the white with silver or just the white used for the cells? Also, did you use a syringe to make the cells?

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

@@deborahlowy3982 Just the white for the cells, dropped into the piece with a syringe.. Thank you for your comment 🖐😀🙏

@gabyma8820 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Paul, your work is always great! Can you tell me the title of the music in the beginning? That would be very kind! Thank you so much!

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Gaby, thank you for pointing that out. I usually list the artist in the video description.. The music is taken from youtube's music library Chris Zabriskie, Undercover vampire policeman . Thank you so much for your comment 🖐🙏😀

@gabyma8820 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 Thank you so much. My mistake, I did'nt look at it. I heard it before, butI cannot find out from where. If it's in a movie I bnever saw it...🤔🤔🤔🤔

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

@@gabyma8820 I need to add it to the description lol 👍😂🙏

@Ronisstyles 4 жыл бұрын

Did you just dip the pen in Silicone

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

It is a syringe mixed with white and silver paint.. Thank you for your comment 🖐😂🙏

@cherieozga5879 4 жыл бұрын

Do you do anything with your run off.? That is a cabachon heaven

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Cherie, I dip smaller canvas boards in the run off, or keep the interesting parts for jewellery. Thanks for your comment 🖐🙏😀

@bonesgirl302 4 жыл бұрын

It’s beautiful and unique. For some reason I just can’t get cells. If I us silicone, the cells are distorted and dinky.

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Sheila, I hear you, I didn't use silicone for a long time bc I didn't like the cells they created.. It really is trial and error.. Maybe try just adding it to one of the colours in the mix? If your looking for natural cells as in some of the techniques I use. Mixing the white base coat into the colours nearly always result in cells.. If your going for dropping them into the piece as I did in this one.. Try adding a little metallic silver into the mix.. Hope this answers helps.. All the very best with the pouring.. 🖐🤞🙏😀

@bonesgirl302 4 жыл бұрын

paul

@SinewMinew 4 жыл бұрын

If you’ve used WD-40 in the past that is the problem. It is sure to create very small, barely formed cells and a lot of them. Try using treadmill silicone instead. “Spot On” brand is sold by Amazon, 4oz for $11.95. Or any brand that is made of dimethicone will do. It makes a world of difference. You are guaranteed to get large, nicely formed, even double & triple paint layered cells. Best of luck to you!

@wilhat 4 жыл бұрын

How about making Icicles

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe next time? 🖐😂🙏

@lalaloopsychika 4 жыл бұрын

I thought it looked like an abstract skull! lol

@pastels46 4 жыл бұрын

@coraliebryden1156 4 жыл бұрын

That's an awesome piece of work and the music is so soothing. Listening and watching just mesmerizes me. I did want to ask, what is the little tool you are using to apply the white and silver dots. It looks like a squeeze syringe but I can't be sure. Also can you tell me where you acquired it?. Many thanks and please keep on making these wonderful videos

@paulstartart1356 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Coralie, thank you so much for the lovely comment.. It is a syringe, you can purchase them in most chemists.. All the very best with the pouring.. 🖐😀🙏

@coraliebryden1156 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulstartart1356 Thanks :-) I guess it was the way you're holding it plus the little tip on the end that confused me . I have to try this and see if I can make it work the way you do