Nice one Bill, not easy doing it on camera, i wouldn't like to do it .. Thanks for sharing.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Bill, that's kind of you...but it was as much of a learning experience for me as anyone. I'm going to dismantle L'enfant Terrible, take apart the movement and re-assemble it. I think I'll start with the ETA 6497 what went south on me shortly after it was bombed by a runaway iPhone! What could be more fun?! Cheers, Bill
@glenh49713 жыл бұрын
Bill, thanx for sharing this project. I have decided to go ahead and buy a Parnis watch complete with the 6497 movement already in it and ready to go. This is cheaper than buying the individual parts. I want to take the movement apart as practice and try to clean the parts and lubricate it correctly. Thanx again.
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
Hi Glen, you can always take it out and put it back together ... and you're right! Costs a lot less! Take care and be safe! Bill 😷
@glenh49713 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Thats the plan Bill. I want to use it as a practise watch. If I like it I might even shop around for a real ETA movement to play with!
@stevebo80555 жыл бұрын
Great content Bill, I feel more confident now . The slow boat from Chyna still has my parts.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, thanks man. I've learned to forget what I've ordered from China ....then I get a surprise in the mail!! Cheers, Bill
@MuhammadUsman-km4xr5 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful beautiful watch Bill. Really happy for you that you did it beautifully
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey Muhammad! Thanks man ... now it's your turn! Kindest regards, Bill
@thissmithymanga71195 жыл бұрын
Hey man love the vids, just bought all the parts to do my own watch hopefully everything goes well, I'll follow your advice on the ways to do things, I'm doing the 6497 too, btw love the watch.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Say Thissmithy, join us on Pretentious Watchmakers! Cheers, Bill😎
@AbdulRWatches5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, I was planning to start putting a watch together also , but i saw the most beautiful Nomos Club Campus Amsterdam Ace Special Edition, and i couldn't resist :D. I am now putting all the watch parts that were in the shopping bin will have to wait to Xmas, so i can stop myself from buying a new watch, and instead to make a watch. Have a great one ! Best, Abdul
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a great watch Abdul! Congratulations! Kindest regards, Bill
@AbdulRWatches5 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci I fell in love with it from the first sight, couldn't hold myself at all :D Thanks!
@funkdawgg5 жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to keep up on my watch addiction, I live in Paradise, CA and my house burned completely, but I made it out safe and picked up my 81 year old mother, who's house also burned to the ground, there was fire surrounding my vehicle for most of the drive out of town, burring trees and cars everywhere, both sides of the road raging. I look forward to getting back to my watch addiction as things calm down, I lost a lot of watches as with everything else in my home, I had 5 minutes warning to pick my mom up and get out of town.On a positive note, I have good insurance :(
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, I'm glad to hear you and your mom made it out safely. I used to live in San Diego, and the Racho Bernardo fire burned my old house down to the foundation. (Fortunately for me, this occurred shortly after we sold it and moved to Texas.) I have a brother in Grass Valley and a son in Napa, both of whom I'm concerned about. Family, pets, and get out fast...it's the worst it's even been. Best of luck in recovering. Kindest regards, Bill
@blueshirtbuddah16655 жыл бұрын
Great job Bill. A very nice watch indeed. I wish I had the dexterity for this. I guess the reason why I’m not a watchmaker or a doctor is, I just don’t have the patience.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce, I'm not sure if it's patience I have or just the fact after one thing, I'm pooped out. The amount of concentration is huge, and I suppose that there's a Zen state of watchmaking where everything flows together. I got to that point in programming, and I'd like to do the same with simple mechanical watches like the 6497/8 ... before moving to something more complicated. Kindest regards, Bill
@Frankiewizard5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Bill, cheers.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey F512 DMX, thanks man! Now if I can only get my blasted Military watch finished! One last screw! Hang in there, Bill
@mrdripling41923 жыл бұрын
Top tip for stem cutting wrap some cling film around the crown so if it does ping away (and it usually does!) The cling film will act as a flag and protect it to
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that great tip Mr. Dripling. If you're interested, there's a FP group, 'Pretentious Watchmakers,' who are wholly untrained (other than a few watchmaking courses) that you might like to join. We could use your insights. Take care and be safe, Bill😷
@MichaelAndersen_DK5 жыл бұрын
It's the flying spaghetti monster that eats the tiny metal bits, I've had it visit my pretentious shop too! Nice watch btw. You should get one of them elevated tables, it helps alot (got one at work, just never tinkered with watches there, only for standing up while at the computer).
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, I got the desktop workbench which raises the work area for bracing both arms and working at chin-level. (www.ofrei.com/page241.html). As far as small parts entering some unknown orbit, I got a box of screws and clamps for securing the movement to the watch in case I lost the ones shipped with the movement. For some reason, as soon as I got the box, the tiny case screws and clamps ceased to fly off. However, my small seconds hands decided to take wing... all of this work should be done in a large bubble. Cheers, Bill
@herrk56513 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice video. I have the same case and the same movement. My problem is, that one of the case clamps kinda lifts the movement instead of securing it in place when I screw it in. What am I doing wrong?
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
The case, dial and movements may be mismatched Herr K. Usually I've found the problem to be with the size of the dial. Take care and get your shots if you haven't, Bill😎
Hi Snorkel ... slowly disengage the click ... a peg wood stick was used..., and once it's unwound it springs right back into place. No adjustment required for the click. Take care, Bill
@washingtonfootballfanwgil83925 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, Can you please help me make the right choices with my parts? I want the 6498 (seconds at 6). First, I want to know if I can get that movement into 38, 39, or 40 mm case? I see the movement is listed as 36.6mm. My confusion is why they are put into 42mm and larger cases? Next, the size of the dial; if my case is say, 39mm, what size dial do I order? Should the dial be smaller to fit or the same size as the case? I'm sorry for the elementary school questions, this is the level that I'm at. Thanks. Hey Bill, I should have watched the other guy's video first. He advised to buy a case and dial made for the movement.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi RP ... I'm pretty sure I said the same thing: buy the movement first, and then order a case and dial that goes with the movement. Anyway let's get on the right track. 1) The cases for the 6498 are bigger than I like...42mm was the smallest I could find from the inexpensive Chinese sources. The best you can do with a 6498 is 41mm from Ofrei: www.ofrei.com/page1494.html : (OFREI-CASE10 - Mineral glass $78 (Domed) OFREI-CASE11 - Sapphire glass $154 (Domed) You can also get a case fro Tourby but they're €300 ... it might even be 40mm. However, for a first watch .... get one with lots of room...I'd even suggest a 44mm. As for dials, same thing. Dials have "feet" and the feet have to fit into the holes in the 6498 that's made for them. And with hands... you want hands made for the ETA 6498 or ST 3620. Here's another link: www.ebay.com/b/Unitas-6497-In-other-Watch-Parts/10324/bn_7022483342 Take your time...there's no rush. Kindest regards, Bill
@LCMNUNES19625 жыл бұрын
Ótimo relógio mecânico, brasil ok.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Nós somos todos sobre relógios mecânicos irmão! Cheers, Bill
@mellonear91304 жыл бұрын
The movement is mechanical right?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mello, that's exactly right. All mechanical. Cheers, Bill
@mellonear91304 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Thanks but why not use Quarz?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
@@mellonear9130 You can if you want. Different set of challenges with a mechanical watches. Kindest regards, Bill
@joemanta5044 жыл бұрын
Hi how big is the case that you used for this watch ,also for anyone trying this if you loosen the screw to remove the stem and you loosen it to much you better be a watch maker, it is connected to some other part of the watch and you will never get the stem back in without removing the hands dial and other parts of the watch.
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, I believe it's 42mm. Good tip about the screw...messed up more than one movement by over-loosening. Cheers, Bill
@joemanta5044 жыл бұрын
Thank's for the on the watch size .@@watchartsci
@fullymechanical90555 жыл бұрын
Good work Bill. Always look forward to the Sunday helping. I presume the click element works on an automatic movement too? Cheers
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey FM, I imagine so... but I haven't done anything with automatics yet; so I don't know what similarities and what differences there are. I plan to spend a lot more time with mechanicals before I attempt anything with automatics. The wind-ups are daunting enough! Cheers, Bill
@adamwalsh19935 жыл бұрын
What would be a good place to find and buy the watch movements?
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, I use 'AliExpress.com' and 'Ebay' ... depending on what country you live in, there're different ones in different countries. In the U.S. Otto Frei is popular. Cheers, Bill
@andypeterson96305 жыл бұрын
That’s really cool. Do you know the material properties of the dial? It’d be fun to design one. CNC the shape. Plate, screen or fire the surface. Or in keeping with pretense, you could laser a skeleton. Can you vary the vertical offset of the hands to clear dimensional indices (or numerals)?
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, I was considering the same thing! Do you know of a good, affordable laser engraver? I'd use it to make dials and engraving. Cheers, Bill
@andypeterson96305 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, I work at a much larger scale, but I have clients I can ask. Many shops have gantry-style C02 systems for plaques, etc. But for precision ablating and marking, finding someone with a LaserStar might be a better fit. Jewelers would probably know. Larger details are actually pressed, and setup is costly. Holes are simply drilled. I found this video on dial production, it's very enlightening (and humbling): The Alchemy of dialmaking. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q898aMihpp2WmYE.html&frags=pl%2Cwn Besides laser, there's machined holes/shapes and hand engraved scrollwork. References that I admire include Fiona Krüger’s skeletal dials and the engraved Rolexes by MadeWorn. The cool thing about LaserStar is that I think we just supply vector artwork, eps files and truetype fonts. Andy
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, LaserStar was one I was looking at.They tend to be a bit pricy compared with some others I was considering but they may have just the one I need. Kindest regards, bill
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Andy, could you check with your colleagues at work to see if this one would be appropriate for engraving on stainless steel? www.amazon.com/15000MW-Engraver-Machine-Stainless-Advanced/dp/B07G748N34/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542025453&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=metal+engraver+machine&psc=1 Thanks, Bill
@deekshithajana73945 жыл бұрын
Will loosening the stem make the watch work?
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Krishna, I tried that and it didn't work, but it's not a bad idea. Finally got it fixed though. Cheers, Bill
@dimitrialmerchant92223 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill where do you get your parts from?
@watchartsci3 жыл бұрын
Mostly from "AliExpress" Dimitrial, but some from eBay. With the pandemic, it's easier to get them from the US via eBay. Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
@ashtonfavreau5 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your blank watch dials?
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ashton, the best thing to do is to enter "watch dial for 6497" or whatever the movement identifier is for a Google search. For example, '6497' is for an ETA 6497, and that's going to show dials for ST 36 (6497 clone) as well as for Unitas 6497 and ETA 6497. The reason I'm suggesting a Google search is because different countries may have different in-country vendors. Often I get my dials from China via AliExpress or eBay, but it takes weeks. If I use eBay (a good source of dials) I check to see whether the dials are sent from the US (even if they're made in China or elsewhere) I will get them in a few days. Also, you can enter the material you want in your dial. For example, if you want an 'enamel' dial, just enter 'Enamel watch dial' (or even try using 'Email watch dial' - 'email' the French term for 'enamel '. Here's a list of the places I've used: 1. Ebay 2. AliExpress 3. ofrei.com (U.S. more expensive but quicker in US) 4. Tourby (www.ebay.com/str/tourby-watches)-great service and products. Also directly from Tourby watches in Germany (www.tourbywatches.com/service/spare-parts/) Better selection and prices from Tourby's eBay store. ; >) 5.dhgate.com (UK) --Another tact is to put in a 'watch dials for sale' search and then click 'images' and look at all the different ones available, and then follow it back to the online store. Good (dial) hunting! Bill
@brra11995 жыл бұрын
hwo did you remove the logo on the dial? or you order without logo? thanks in advance
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hello Bryar! You can order a dial with no logo. These are called 'sterile dials.' Kindest regards, Bill
@brra11995 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci thanks for such a quick reply. I searched on ebay and somehow did not find that.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hi Byar, Here's a link on eBay to lots of sterile dials for a 6497 movement. The dials without any writing o them are the sterile ones. Kindest regards, Bill www.ebay.com/itm/36-8mm-Watch-Face-Fit-ETA-6497-Seagull-ST36-Movement-Sterile-Steel-Watches-Dial-/153061391505
@gamithaa4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr ,Bill , after this vedio, it push me to make my own watch, i will do one day abd send you a picture, tks Mr Bill , its great, can I call you one day?
@watchartsci4 жыл бұрын
I would very much like to see a watch you have made, Saman. Here's a video with all of my contact information: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7yhdremppPSkas.html Cheers, Bill
@watchdealer5 жыл бұрын
I missed your live presentation again. I do have a question for you that may be unrelated to this particular video. It's about the JLC polaris memovox which is a limited edition of 1,000 pieces. I called around and not one AD had this in stock or was willing to place me on a waitlist. I went to JLC's website and was able to order the watch without a problem, however, there is about a 6 to 8-week wait for the watch. Here is my question..... The memovox master alarm is a limited edition of only 500, but this watch is easy to get. It's also been out for a longer period of time. What are your thoughts about this? Meaning... Will they likely sell 1,000 of the polaris and the wait is real or is this just a marketing game?
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Watchdealer, there was no live presentation for this video. This is my regular Sunday video (on Fridays and Sundays there are regular videos; not the live streaming ones with chat that come up now and then....) So, you've missed nothing. I happen to be a fan of the JLC Polaris Memovox, but I think it's stupid (and greedy) for watch companies announce 'limited editions' which can the be 'magically' expanded if the demand is there. If you compare them with companies like Habring2 who create less than 200 watches a year by a master watchmaker and never mention 'limited editions,' such editions look silly. I have a Habring2 Felix, and you can rarely find them either on the pre-owned market or discounted. Probably some market analyst at Jaeger-LeCoultre (aka:' Bean counter ') decided they couldn't sell any more than 1000 or 500, and voila! That's the announced limited edition. Friday, on our regularly scheduled video, I'll be looking at JLC... Cheers, Bill
@watchdealer5 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Thanks for your quick reply. I would love to have a Habring2 and eventually I will try to buy one. My main interest in the JLC memovox is the 50th anniversary 1968-2018. I was born in 1968, so I'm also celebrating 50 this year. Additionally, an alarm is my favorite complication. It may not be the most interesting to look at, but I find that it is actually useful. I love playing with chrono's like everyone else, but in reality, most have 30-minute counters and that isn't very practical. I find I wear my Vulcain Cricket quite often as it's great to have a reminder alarm. My tastes are changing. I have a Patek 5159G, and I never wear it. It's top heavy and I really don't find much use in a perpetual calendar. A wonderful complication, but almost everyone has one and there is nothing so special about the movement. It's the base 315 calibre with a perpetual module. I prefer my Patek 5196G. That's a great daily wear watch as is my Vacheron patrimony. I had to pay full retail for the JLC. That's what bothers me. It is the first time I have ever paid full retail for a watch. Having owned two high-end watch shops, it's hard to pay retail when you know the discount to any AD is 45% off retail.
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hey Watchdealer...if you were in the watch business, you know better than I the chicanery that is part of the business. So you went ahead and bought the JLC Polaris Memovox. How do you like it? (A Vulcain Cricket is on my list too... unfortunately with my crappy hearing I couldn't hear it or the Memovox ... and Big Ben doesn't fit on my wrist.) Cheers, Bill
@watchdealer5 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci The business has changed a lot in the past ten years since I owned two stores. We were Ad's for Ulysse Nardin, IWC, Oris, Fortis and many others, but not JLC. IWC was pretty easy to work with as was UN in those days. They wanted to sell watches. We used to discount almost every watch, that was the business back then.
@watchdealer5 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci I don't have it yet. There is a 6 to 8 week waitlist from JLC. I wasn't able to get it at any AD. I'm looking forward to its arrival in the mail. That's how I get all my watches, somehow it's via the mail. Saves you tax too.
@rogerthomas21325 жыл бұрын
merci bill, watch looks good to me but it seems strane without some sort of lettering
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Yes Roger, it's called a 'sterile' dial. I'm thinking of getting an engraving machine using a laser and putting my logo on the dial...something along the lines of "Montres par Bill" with a 'MpB' logo. Cheers, Bill
@rogerthomas21325 жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci exactly bill, something classy like old english scroll
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
@@rogerthomas2132 Yes, or French formal script...it will have to be pretentious for my watchmaking group, La Société des Horlogers Prétentieux. Cheers, Bill
@hemantparakh89955 жыл бұрын
I would like to make Watches by giving up the machine for a Record kindly help me with an MOOC for Watch making and I'm also interested in collecting MOOCs of Three Pressure Clocks classified as Single Alpha and Beta, Double Alpha and Beta and Triple Alpha and Beta I would also be Interested in a Single Needle Accounting Clock kindly introduce specific MOOCs for my request
@watchartsci5 жыл бұрын
Hemant, I don't know of any MOOCs that have everything you ask for, but here's a link to a MOOC that will introduce you to watchmaking: www.timezonewatchschool.com/WatchSchool/ Let me know what you think. Kindest regards, Bill