It irks me when people don’t understand or realise how precious water is, and they just waste it like it’s no big deal

Singapore should be self sustainable in its water needs, and Tun Dr. Mahathir is providing that motivation.

Remember when Singapore used to be poorer than Malaysia 😂🤦‍♂️

The only way Malaysia can compete with Singapore to develop the country, is to stop corruption among the ruling parties of Barisan National and UMNO leaders. Some leaders looted public money into their personal own accounts. A classical example of case-studies is the Malaysian 1MDB Scandal.

It's currency is 3 times our ringgit. Although formerly was equal. But did he ask himself why? He was ruling Malaysia for years.

The questions raised by the media is on behalf PNP Govnt the usual way how to approach any issues😁

If he truly loved Malaysia like he claims, he would’ve known when to step down and ensure a smooth transition of power. Not this power hungry, irrelevant man who had Malaysia in shambles after his long reign. Even after his “retirement”, the relentless effort to meddle and do the whole charade of trying to re-enter the political limbo. Shameful.

He doesn’t even want to mention the cost of treatment and how much he is selling it back to his own people. Cunning.

this was an issue before when I was still in SG. surprised its still ongoing. thought they've renegotiated by then.

Singapore is the Israel of south east Asia, in fact Singapore is an Israel supporter

Singapura memang manipulatif, kita harus hati hati..

Written by a Malaysian Under the 1961 & 1962 water agreements between Malaysia and Singapore, is Singapore unreasonable paying 3 sen for raw water? A typical Malaysian who lived in Malaysia for more than a decade Answered Sat To avoid accusation of biaseness, I would like to emphasise that I am a Malaysian who has stayed in Malaysia for over a decade. But I side with facts and reasoning than solely on emotion basis. Lets get straight into our evaluation: From just looking at the price context, it may seem that the Agreement is unfair to Malaysia, and is advantageous to Singapore. This is because Singapore is entitled to import a very substantial amount of 250M gallons of raw water at a very low price of RM0.03/1000 gallons while Johor is entitled to import only 5M gallons of treated water at RM0.50/1000 gallons. However, we have made an assumption that Singapore has use of all of its 250million gallons entitlement of water imports. As a matter of fact, Singapore has been reducing its reliance on water imports since a decade ago. Hence, the actual import of water is more likely to be about 100million gallons below the entitled water imports ever since 2009 and onwards. On a side note, the question should also have used the current import price of raw water of RM0.10/1000 gallons, not RM0.03/1000 gallons to evaluate the fairness, since the latter price is no longer valid ever since the first Agreement expired. On Singapore’s side, Singapore sell treated water that is 75% subsidised (before subsidy RM2.50/1000gallons) at the price of only RM0.50/1000gallons to Johor, at 16M gallons on top of the 5M gallons that Johor is entitled to import. We have also forgotten to take into account the benefit Johor government reap (on top of Singpapore’s loss), from charging water price on par with the real water treatment cost on Johor citizens for consuming the highly subsidised treated water imported from Singapore. It is an indefensible case. Moreover, we should understand that the then-Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew had also made an offer of RM0.45/1,000 gallons of water to Mahathir in September 2001, but was promptly rejected as Mahathir wasn’t willing to compromise a little on his optimistic price of RM0.60/1,000 gallons back in 2001 and hence the current price remained. Furthermore, we should realise that PUB Singapore has paid for the construction of Linggu Reservoir (1990) in Johor and also the use of Johor land for water catchment, where Singapore draws its imported water from. Hence, it can be said that even the cost of production, capital cost for abstracting raw water itself are entirely paid by Singapore. Besides, Johor also benefits in the long run, from the land usage payment, and the facilities built on Johor land, fully funded by Singapore. Hence, we shouldn’t use the price Johor sells raw water to Melaka or other states (RM0.50/ 1000 gallons) as a template, because this price is factoring in the cost of production and facilities paid by Johor for abstracting raw water from Johor to Melaka. In Singapore’s case, this are all paid by Singapore. To conclude, Singapore has been consistently developing its water sources which includes the NEW water (which exceeds WHO drinking water standards), desalinated seawater, water catchment areas, and has been instilling water responsibility mindset to all Singaporeans. Looking at the current rate of development, sided by the environmental changes, pollution of Johor rivers, and Johor’s unusually high water consumption per capita, I wouldn’t be surprised when the time comes that Johor has to import desalinated seawater from Singapore.

Even since before Najib had all the 1MDB scandals, it was quite apparent in several of Lee Kuan Yew's and PAP's quotes that Mahathir was infavourable towards Singapore since its independence. Back when he was first in power, Mahathir knew Malaysia was benefitting tremendously from all the bilateral deals with Singapore. With globalisation peaking in the early 21st century and the SG economy facing unprecedented rapid growth, the benefits of all the priorly made agreements became less one-sided, but sadly for our Tun Dr M, he was no longer Malaysia's policy maker. The only card he has now is the unammended price after 50+ years (the deal was 1962 btw, this old man's memory is waning), but the fact is the agreement is still very fair to both sides. The price at which SG sells treated water to Malaysia has also remained the same. He's just salty he isn't benefitting as much now, like how he has always been salty of Lee Kuan Yew's success

He claims to hand over PM to Anwar.

That being said, then the price of treated water will rightfully be sold back to Malaysia at a higher price, at least in proportion.

Lol, if Singapore does not want to follow our rules, just terminate the contract, we are the supplier after all. If we do not want to supply, what can they do? Who cares..

In 1987, Mahathir himself refuse to review the water agreement, saying it was beneficial to Malaysia. He did not indicate that he would do it later. So the water price remain stuck at 3 sen per 1000 gallons. There is no more provision for another review. At that time, Mahathir was supremo, and no one in his BN cabinet saw fit to advise him to review later. The "not at 25 years, but after 25 years" came from PH ministers.

So did you hand power to Anwar ?...No ?................Dont trust his word..........

The truth is after Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia in 1965 all the successive Malaysian leaders are in the belief that Singapore will not survive and will crawl back to Malaysia one day. The preoccupation with this wishful thinking has also wasted the time they could have in renegotiating the water pact which has expired a long long time ago. Now that the fortune has turned and Mahatir thinks we should be more understanding to their woes and adversity. The moral of the story don't underestimate Singapore.

Show the agreement to Malaysian and singaporean.

I see more Singaporean then Malaysian here. First of all why do you care about country issues(to all debaters) can you just let it slide and solve on its own? If you even make the statement it's rare for them to be read by the government, just let it go

He is not anti singapore, he just have dementia 😂

This guy still remembers he was sent to dormantary instead his hostel back when he's at Singapore

Of course you are not anti Singapore, however, you still want to bring water at 3 sens. Do you care to acknowledge that Singapore have been selling at 50sens clean water back to Malaysia at a subsidised rate.

Malaysia can form a freshwater exporting countries association similar to OPEC for crude oil. Freshwater is becoming an important trading commodity in this world and ASEAN countries stand a chance to captivate on these precious resources to be processed and ready for export in bulk or piped to interested countries thus, generating new water treatment industries and freshwater bulk carriers services and much-needed new jobs.

Hopefully he will consider giving raw water free of charge to Sing. ...will make his critic a change of mind, begin calling him "pro Singapore" or "anti- Malaysia " later on.......unfortunately, it is an international treaty agreed upon by both government while ago , we can not just change anything in the treaty including the price in whatever way we see fit or in favor of our own interests only, we have to conform to the letter of the agreement accordingly.

Someone reported my previous comment but pls hear me out! I think this is a one-sided argument in misleading people to believe that Singapore is being unreasonable and unfair. Reason being that: 1)Singapore has spent more than 300million on Johor River and its infrastructure (operation cost,.. Etc) 2)Singapore has invest more than 1 billion dallors on water treatment 3) Singapore has supply cheaper treatment water to Malaysia. Around 16 million gallons every day ( if Malaysian request for more, Singapore is willingly to supply more e.g 16million gallons more) ->water treatment are also expensive And also if Malaysia has revised/increase the price of water in 1987, we probably won't spent money on building infrastructure in Johor River or even invest money on water treatment Source :kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZapp81-yq2vcWQ.html Thanks for reading! I really appreciate it :))

This is the kind of things that could escalate racial hatred and country to country dispute that can has a devastating effect...'HELOOOOOO" Let the government deal with this thorny issues we eat our popcorns sit back and relax and enjoy the show.....Malaysia and Singaporean are buddies regardless of any kind of dispute which any countries will face from time to time.

actually sabah and sarawak people also dont like mahathir. you know

"Revision after 25 yrs not at 25 yrs" Tun M.

Which country in the world sell treated and drinkable water straight from the tap at 50 sens per thousand gallon?

0:15 Did they get a Malay, Indian and Chinese on purpose? Almost like [CIMB, Chinese, Indian, Malay Bank]

I think Malaysia is being reasonable here. They are not asking for the sky for their water to Singapore, just follow the current market rate. SIngapore is just taking advantage here.

The water is free from the sky though...

Did they agree to renegotiate the price of treated water too?

The issue is lose-lose for malaysia. Singapore is already self-reliant on water. If we stop buying your water, it will just flow into the sea. Futhermore, Johor is reliant on us for cheap treated water.

Normally if a buyer don't want to pay to a seller demanding prize i think we can just give a note ' to them SORRY SOLD OUT' . I think they will like to negotiate again with us because what value to your money if u can't buy what u wish...haha

Mahathir is right!! How can sell water at a prize fixed in 1920s!! Right now is 2019, prices are increasing and getting expensive. Please be fair Singapore!!

Ask all of us, if you have a rich neighbour, you will either envy or jealous of his wealth. Its the same in the political world

Truthfully, ask yourself or anybody, is the price FAIR, at 3 sen?

It's like a snake saying it won't bite you

This is mahathir 's last chance to do Singapore in. He will not give up any opportunity to harass Singapore to achieve his own agenda, conscribe and curtail Singapore 's progress and development. He will be disappointed. Singaporean better don't take water and air for granted, before you know it, some crazy politician in Malaysia will claim the sea water around Singapore belongs to Malaysia too!

Dont seem to see any intelligent arguments here that focuses on the issue. Yall need to grow up

How did Politics get into my recommendations

Singaporean here and just gonna lay out some hard truths Singaporeans need to understand that we can really be more gracious especially because our neighbors are not in the best of times. Malaysians also need to acknowledge that Singapore does try to be gracious and unselfish when giving back treated water. (To be fair, tun Dr. Mahathir is just protecting his people's interests so it makes sense that he doesn't really mention the treated water part. ) I personally love both countries and think both sides have some solid points. Lets try to empathize each other and look at the situation more amicably.

Seems like Malaysian does not understand the meaning of honouring a legal contract or treaty. Be it fair or not fair, it is agreed upon by both parties. Look at the big picture. So what if you get to change the raw water price, it means you do not honour a legal contract and would want to change the consideration once it does not favour you. In future who won't want to do business in or with Malaysia.

Just cut off . Rich country can produce their own water resources. They are not seek for help from anybody.

Just do it.. Bring it on to the international court of tribulation. It has been all talk and no action, sick of it.

Kiasu1: "Malaysia backstab us" Kiasu2: "It's okay, we still have Indonesia for cheap water" Kiasu1: owhh

The issue is that Mahathir has little credibility when he takes on Singapore. Many issues in the past he confronts Singapore in an emotional and personal way. This does not speak well for a supposedly Senior statesman and a politician who is supposed to be objective and diplomatic! He has a very big ego... So its difficult for him to see his own faults. As long as he is PM, these differences will not go away!

Oh come on, he cannot hide that he is jealous in some ways

If Tun Mahathir have focused his attention on Malaysia and Malaysia only and not anti-Singapore during his tenure, Malaysia would have been an even more prosperous state. Sad to say, he didn't get his priorities right...

if you increase water bill, how Malaysian people working and stay in Singapore could afford pay the bill, come on la, even some states of your country don't have a clean water..

He is not anti, but envy on the success.

Admin, please switch off the comments section as it is toxic.

He is not anti-singapore. He is just jeolous he do not hv the respect Lee Kwan Yew get from the world. They are from same era, and he THOUGHT he is aslo a great statemen and a world class leader.

I understand that Singapore is trying to achieve water self-sufficiency by 2060, in a manner which is sustainable and economically viable for the country and its citizens... However, there seems to be so many issues to resolve in the next 40 years: (1) Singapore is expecting the non-domestic industrial water users (e.g. Wafer Fabrication and Semiconductor sector, the Refineries, Petrochemicals and Chemicals sector and the Biomedical sector, etc.) to account for almost 70% of water demand by 2060. Reducing water demand by such non-domestic industrial water users seems like a logical path. (2) Even after Singapore achieved water self-sufficiency, it would probably be wise to maintain and renegotiate the water agreement with Malaysia for rainy day situations (irony 🤣), e.g. during long period of dry spell. Hopefully, Singapore and Malaysia can have a peaceful negotiation then. After all, ASEAN with a population of over 600 million (if united) has the potential to rival the big players (e.g. USA, China EU, etc.).

Whatever it is, you had been given a second chance, instead you go back to your old habit of divisive politics You renigrated your agreement with Anwar. No wonder you were left out of the current arrangement. deserve to be sidelined.

His interest for the longest time has always been his own pocket. He puts the government money into his pocket and magically transferred itself to his son’s pocket.

Twice Mahatir said 1926..... It's 1962!!! For F sake, can't he even get the year right?

should just REMOVED the Singapore Public Utilities Board Water Treatment Plant in Malaysia...much more better settle

Continuously delayed the RTS Cancelled the HSR Arbitrarily claim waters near Tuas Caused an airspace dispute Resurface an old issue with water prices A sudden increase in Johor landfill burning/Air pollution Constant antagonism by PM Mahathir _sigh_

Sir. Same stories that why now people want young MP.

Don’t understand this Mamak. If he said that the Agreement can be negotiated anytime after 25 years and not by 25 years as adhered by Singapore, why Malaysia didn’t sue Singapore? If what he said is correct, isn’t it a simple legal case?

Lee Kuan Yew is going to smack you when he sees you in a couple of years lol

3sen today is 3rm today Mahathir is right. 3sen 1000gallons simply ridiculous

Not Anti.. Right. Simply Jealous of what LKY can achieve n he cannot.

Should we give those Malaysian working in Singapore the same currency rate SG1:1riggit back to the seventies also?!!

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He had the chance to review the price after 25 years in 1987 but he refused to do so because he knew it would be more expensive to clean the water themselves than buying from Singapore at subsidize price while we in Singapore paid 5 level of tariff for water consumption. He hated Singapore very much because some taxi driver mistakenly drove him to servant's quarter while studying in Singapore.

I just realise sg is buying malaysia at cheaper price whilce we singaporean been taxed 30% water tax ..sound ridiculous too

In order to continue to be relavant, the old croak have to divide ties between sg n msia

Exploit your neighbors weaknesses and blame them for being so.

After reading all the comments, I can see Mr M has achieved what he has set out to do with water & other issues with Singapore. Now netizens from both sides are stirred up, arguing & accusing each other of unfairness. Sad to see that it has come to this. But there is still hope as now we're living in the digital age. Sound minded & mature individuals will be able search for answers & truths easily. In time we'll know the truth.

By the way, 1962 and not 1926.

He was and is never anti-$Singapore. He just hopes we can just perish and not be an embarrassment to Malaysia which is corrupt and insignificant to the world.

Malaysia is not poorer la they are rich what you should go look for your own ppl la where the money is gone use brain talk .

0:26 well i mean the USA has been taking free water from rivers and sold it as bottled water for decades

When Mr. Mahathir skipping in between sentences, I heard rippling water, almost a tiny chain crunching sound.

Please be reminded Malaysia Kicked out Singapore. Water security is a form of compensation for the split due to water security. Now that Singapore is more developed and far exceeded Malaysia,. Mahathir is bickering about this. Malaysia have more opportunity and resources to exceed Singapore's potential but have failed to do what the Singaporeans did.

No, you cannot raise the price of the water, because it is inherently against the legally binding contract as signed back in 1962, of which states the stipulated price for which Malaysia should charge for her water. As for the imbeciles who believe that 3 sens per thousand gallon is too cheap, consider this. Singapore also permits Johor to draw up to 5 million gallons of *TREATED* water a day, which is exponentially more expensive to produce than raw water. In reality, however, Malaysia has been drawing closer to 16 million, of which Singapore graciously provides. Malaysia, on the other hand, sells raw water to Singapore, which requires little to no resources or effort to obtain. All Malaysia has to do to obtain said water is to wait for precipitation to fill the reservoirs in Johor that was built by, you guessed it-Singapore. In other words, selling this water to Singapore is *free* money.

I think Dr M want the price to be at least 10 time higher.....ie...30 cents and that is the fair price for spore to pay once for all. No more bargaining and it is take it or leave it.

Give them what they want and move on.. We won't fight also,waste time.

Singapore is serious? Malaysia is binded to supply water at that price till doomsday?

Adakah ini namanya "zalim"? Meletakkan sesuatu itu tidak sesuai pada tempatnya?

Anti Singapore oldman

The man’s obsession with talking about water is incredible

I don't know why i am here as Indonesian citizen. And i see alots of hate comments between Malaysia and Singapore. I also get offended to scroll down the comments. *So why this appear in my recommendation?*

Make Singapore pay up. At least mahathir is doing something right.

Sea water desalination+ Mining is the only solution to the whole World's Water Crisis. I hope more improvements in Solar and Wind technologies to create electricity for the process of large scale Desalination in the world.

Singapore is a rich country but Singaporean re not rich because more Singaporeans re overpaying to the greedy pap over highly paid ministers.

Mahathir is not so much anti-Singapore as anti- Lee Kuan Yew. I suspect he is extremely though unsaid jealous of Singapore's PM because Lee is much more recognized on the Global stage than Mahathir himself.

1000 gallon for 3 cent. Common la Singapore is rich , i think if it is 1 dollar for 1000 gallon it is too much affordable. Just one dollar per 1000 gallon is okay ma

Tonight the age piping will broke down and need maintenance until further notice. Malaysia will work hard to restore it ASAP ... :)

What is the price that Malaysia buy treated drinking water from Singapore compared to the rest of the world since 1926 ? What is the price of drinking water that Malaysia government sell to the Malaysia citizens ? Building Malaysia infastructure for storing raw water and pipelines from Malaysia to Singapore is paid by who ? Cost of maintence of these infastructures every year are paid by whio ? How much money did Malaysia government paid every year contributions ? Why Malaysia reporters did not ask Mr Mahathir ?

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Why is he complaining now when he as PM decided not to revise the 3 sens.

It is just too bad for Malaysia to be dumb enough to sign that fixed price agreement. An agreement is still an agreement and u need to stick by that.

In this sense, he is right absolutely..

"Not Anti-Sink Kar Poh" - oh boy, something terrible will happen very soon.