Malcolm X Debates Bayard Rustin (1960)

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Classic debate between Malcolm X and Bayard Rustin from WBAI Radio New York, November 1960. From the Pacifica Radio Archive.
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@travismaxwell9115
@travismaxwell9115 9 ай бұрын
Who else is here, in 2024, listening to this brilliant man?
@dreone2008
@dreone2008 5 ай бұрын
2024
@kage_86
@kage_86 5 ай бұрын
Thoroughly insightful debate. Just woow
@lynndavist
@lynndavist 5 ай бұрын
I'm here February 2024
@thennow6178
@thennow6178 5 ай бұрын
Feb 21, 2024
@semerebaraki5911
@semerebaraki5911 5 ай бұрын
0 seconds ago He is a genius. He was a straight A student in Boston. A token black. 2024 because the only great improvement for blacks is under neo slavery aka Satanism aka Freemasonry or Masinry
@roccofranzino4069
@roccofranzino4069 Жыл бұрын
I hope this generation appreciates KZfaq. Being able to hear debates such as these is like going back in history all at the ease of your fingertips.
@tweetybeetweetybea9652
@tweetybeetweetybea9652 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the technology for the ease of my fingertips.
@JaymelHall
@JaymelHall Жыл бұрын
Exactly why Im here! Exactly!!!
@bertrammalabi7873
@bertrammalabi7873 Жыл бұрын
@@garyeastman2307 This is very true, some contents l had downloaded years ago cannot be found anywhere
@csterlin9
@csterlin9 Жыл бұрын
We take it for granted.
@1hunnidpercent
@1hunnidpercent Жыл бұрын
KZfaq is sensoring us, you might need to rephrase your statement.. 🤦
@reginaldroundtree1325
@reginaldroundtree1325 11 ай бұрын
This is how a debate is suppose to be. No overtalking, no interrupting, no screaming and yelling. Just respect to listen the the view of the other.
@geraldbibbs6377
@geraldbibbs6377 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@Russell_Huston
@Russell_Huston 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that is wonderful isn't it? A real discussion, an exploration of the issues and difficulties, even when the people talking disagree. How is it we have gone so backward in this? Don't look for this in the media. They thrive on conflict and sensationalized strife. I have to tune in to various podcasts and KZfaq to hear this kind of thing these days.
@Tony-pb3iq
@Tony-pb3iq 9 ай бұрын
I miss dialogue like this.
@niahwilliams7227
@niahwilliams7227 9 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 exactly no shouting (civilised behaviour
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 9 ай бұрын
​@@niahwilliams722746:00 i think Clarke gave him this article
@colormebrave2231
@colormebrave2231 11 ай бұрын
I was taught in high school (texas) MalcolmX was a terrorist. I'm glad i didn't listen or accept that. he's the only man, black or otherwise, who when he talks about women (in his case black women) he exudes protection. i'll never forget when i heard him say, "who taught you to hate the color of your skin" it took my breath away. i think MalcolmX is the kind of man God had in mind when He created man.
@lisagooch3740
@lisagooch3740 9 ай бұрын
Wow, unbelievable! I also re-approached my black middle school social studies teacher, while grown and asked why she taught us lies. She readily and firmly said that she taught what she was told to teach. Oh what a shame!. I wouldn't take such a job that would further enslave my own people. (predominantly black school)
@Msangel06
@Msangel06 9 ай бұрын
They push MLK Jr because he’s nonviolent and they want people to be nonviolent. It’s beneficial to the system. Malcolm X philosophy is better than MLK. MLK was for himself and worked for the government to keep blacks down, nothing he did help further blacks people at all!!
@ammonbakarri-o5524
@ammonbakarri-o5524 8 ай бұрын
Hero in Somalia good strong men
@MechaJutaro
@MechaJutaro 8 ай бұрын
Since 9/11, damn near everyone has been labelled a terrorist
@Goji-eletienne
@Goji-eletienne 8 ай бұрын
​@@lisagooch3740to be fair, it's possible that you would, if your own education was lacking, such that you wouldn't know the information you were taught, was a lie. The honest liar has no awareness of the error in their understanding.
@zghani2410
@zghani2410 Жыл бұрын
This debate is over 63 years old and yet, it's still relevant today. There will never be another Malcolm X. This man was a genius!
@vm5954
@vm5954 Жыл бұрын
I would like to disagree After all isslam was forced onto africans or faced death
@YahwehBYBYahweh
@YahwehBYBYahweh Жыл бұрын
What about OUR MESSIAH YAHWEH BEN YAHWEH? Did you see the work - I loved Malcolm biography. However I actual witness the work The Messiah YAHWEH BEN YAHWEH is Victorious!
@JustinCase-ew9vz
@JustinCase-ew9vz Жыл бұрын
@@YahwehBYBYahweh what about him? The term "Messiah" means "anointed one," who, then, anointed this one calling himself an anointed god?
@jujutu5084
@jujutu5084 Жыл бұрын
There doesn’t need to be another Malcom x. He came and fulfilled his purpose. We’re next.
@blacksling9
@blacksling9 Жыл бұрын
Actually some say he might have been one of the smartest American ever!
@patrickwendling6759
@patrickwendling6759 Жыл бұрын
I am a 59yr old white man.. I have never listened to Malcolm X.. I am very impressed with him.. I don't agree with everything he says but i do agree with most. We need more Malcolm X's in the world.. as a country we have come a long way. However, we have much more work to do.. God bless all God's children
@carbonado1
@carbonado1 Жыл бұрын
What do you disagree with?
@johnscott9318
@johnscott9318 5 ай бұрын
Exactly the problem
@austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688 5 ай бұрын
Read a biography on Malcolm X or learn more about him and you wont have this opinion. He was a good speaker and at times he could have his head straight and be profound, but more often he was short-sighted, ignorant, and sabotaged and set back progress for race relations in this country. He called MLK and the most important civil rights leaders uncle toms and denounced them like dogs. They actually had a vision unlike him and were making progress, all he was trying to do was divide black people and sabotage the civil rights movement so his cult, the NOI, could gain more members by taking them away from the civil rights camp. Members, whom, malcolm x sponsored the severe beatings of and turned a blind eye to the sexual abuse of.
@Monagl32
@Monagl32 5 ай бұрын
You need to talk to your fellow whites if you want to see change
@CharlesMurray-pe1ve
@CharlesMurray-pe1ve 4 ай бұрын
@@johnscott9318ml😊😊 2:52
@peoplewhoscarewoke-uh3uh
@peoplewhoscarewoke-uh3uh 11 ай бұрын
Malcolm X was used by Elijah Muhammad. When he realized this, he was greatly distressed and confronted Elijah because not only was he a genuinely moral man who took a stand for truth.
@g7924
@g7924 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. It was a cult.
@abdulwahabmendy292
@abdulwahabmendy292 2 ай бұрын
Elijah made Malcolm who he is,if you learned from the best you became excellent...
@ctb7894
@ctb7894 2 ай бұрын
​@@abdulwahabmendy292elijah put himself on a pedastal he did not deserve. He was not monagamous and taught the nonsense of Yakub and black supremecy. Malcolm X learned to know he was wrong.
@cale814
@cale814 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@ctb7894 with respect, The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad never put himself on any pedestal, he simply stated who he was and his purpose. In truth monogamy has nothing to do with Malcolm’s leaving The Nation of Islam because if being so called “non-monogamous” was an issue, he would’ve shunned Islam altogether because Prophet Muhammad of Arabia (pbuh) had 9 wives. Abraham the ‘friend of God’ also fathered children by multiple women. The history of Yakub and we the white race being non-original and a grafted people isn’t some wild theology, it’s backed up by the science of genetics and Elijah Muhammad never taught black supremacy, he simply taught exactly what Minister Malcolm spoke to in this debate which was the true thorough knowledge of self (and others) as it pertains to the Original Black family that would dignify and clean up a man and/or woman who did not have such knowledge prior.
@crisycaves
@crisycaves Ай бұрын
Okay so I wasn’t the only one that noticed the whole “parallel Moses” thing he really thought that Muhammad was Moses when in reality he was and other dude was convincing himself he was Jesus…honestly as a first time viewer of this historical piece, it’s a fascinating plot twist because it reads cult even. Truly hard to pick to pick out though because they’re wrapped in a warm religious blanket.
@matta9316
@matta9316 6 ай бұрын
Malcolm was so eloquent. As a young guy it’s like going back in time to hear something like this, amazing history and what a brilliant speaker and hero.
@lucki4mac
@lucki4mac Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X analogies still hold mostly true in the 21st Century.
@Rumblealsojennings2929
@Rumblealsojennings2929 Жыл бұрын
It can hold true to y’all who are worldly but we are spiritual and this is not Gods desire so it’s a terrible idea. It’s reflective to the devils agenda
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 Жыл бұрын
This Man has been dead for nearly SIX DECADES and white ppl are still afraid of his words.
@409CJ
@409CJ Жыл бұрын
​@@Rumblealsojennings2929 what thought is of satan?
@kinetic97
@kinetic97 Жыл бұрын
​@@409CJ Exactly, what is this pundit trying to say???
@virgilwimberly2071
@virgilwimberly2071 Жыл бұрын
Absolute fact!
@thefootballaddict8923
@thefootballaddict8923 Жыл бұрын
The Brilliance of Malcolm X is unmatched.
@berbenwalker0
@berbenwalker0 5 ай бұрын
Don't let the poison make you forget who taught him.
@austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688 5 ай бұрын
you dont know who the hell malcolm x is or anything about him. He could speak well, and sometimes correctly and profoundly, but overall he was ignorant, short sighted and a net negative for black people and their progress
@jasonwakeman
@jasonwakeman 5 ай бұрын
his autobiography is brilliant, I can't say he wrote it by himself, but he would be the first to tell u he isn't perfect.. And "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Why so much hate, @austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688 5 ай бұрын
@@jasonwakeman His autobiography was written by alex haley, the famous plagiarizer of the book "roots". And theres no hate at all? i admire how malcolm was dynamic and evolved as a person after his trip to mecca, he gets a B for effort and an F for results or vision/intelligence as far as helping black progress. (at times he had great vision and made very poignant observations, but then would in the next sentence immediately contradict himself, flip flop, go another direction, and say something completely self defeating or derogatory about black people and disrespect his compatriots]) My only intent is to let people know not to be impulsive or rush to judgments about malcolm x, and to first educate themselves on him, because he was more famous and notroious than he was an actual pioneer or helper of black progress. Itd be very uneducated and disrespectful to put him in a category with rosa parks, mlk, any of their ilk, of whom his entire life he called uncle tom's and other pejoratuve statements and then denounced every step of progress they made or good thing they did for the black race. I dont think malcolm should be celebrated at all, but he is an interesting character and gives insight ro the zeitgeist.
@BougieInAtlanta404
@BougieInAtlanta404 5 ай бұрын
@@austinlittke7688a net how?
@jorgevial131
@jorgevial131 Жыл бұрын
I am not black, I am not muslin and I am not socialist, yet I find Malcolm X fascinating. Smart, articulate and right on spot on many issues.
@thegameplayer5466
@thegameplayer5466 8 ай бұрын
Why not take the dive and give socialism a more serious look
@queenjahneen1000
@queenjahneen1000 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Humanity transcends labels. Easy for human beings to connect with humanity of another.
@user-qc8vj3vp9v
@user-qc8vj3vp9v 7 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with you.
@kgar5String
@kgar5String 7 ай бұрын
@@thegameplayer5466 Because it is dumb, move to socialist country and you will be fine.
@FrenzySpot
@FrenzySpot 7 ай бұрын
Why is it when a White person starts off with im not black, Muslim etc when they state they agree with a black leader?
@sherrizeno8453
@sherrizeno8453 Жыл бұрын
I loved listening to this debate. Malcolm X was a genius, extraordinary black man. And I'm going to listen to some more debates because everything he said - over five decades ago - so relevant to 2023.
@GlindaMartinGJM
@GlindaMartinGJM Жыл бұрын
SO TRUE!
@idread3523
@idread3523 Жыл бұрын
What's sad is that the nation rode on Malcom just like a Crip would on a Blood. All that unity they preached and hypocritically ignored it because he went on his own. The response didn't match the offense. Just nuts
@davidperreaux1348
@davidperreaux1348 10 ай бұрын
Why not share it with all your girls.
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 9 ай бұрын
​@@GlindaMartinGJM50:00 is that a mosguided response ?
@localartifactsglo5691
@localartifactsglo5691 6 ай бұрын
​@@davidperreaux1348chill out manosphere
@PMunkS
@PMunkS Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Malcolm, thank you for your dedication, your activism and your humanitarianism!
@rilwanbalogun83
@rilwanbalogun83 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X. You really know your history. May you rest in peace.
@muslim7608
@muslim7608 Жыл бұрын
Seek Refuge in Allah (swt)! the deceased can't hear you.
@locadisa
@locadisa Жыл бұрын
YES. Hailed as a necessary troublemaker while he lived and a Hero after he's gone.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 9 ай бұрын
​@@muslim7608AA collectively has the seventh/eighth economy and buying power in the world
@muslim7608
@muslim7608 9 ай бұрын
@@aarondigby5054 I 💯AGREE BIG FACTS!!
@hubrisbochen
@hubrisbochen Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X is one of the few African American leaders in our history that helped me to figure out my space within American culture. His story, intelligence and example helps me to navigate my life to this day..
@Dan-nt2yb
@Dan-nt2yb Жыл бұрын
Right on Jeff.✊🏿
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X would never call himself an "African American." It's disrespectful to an ancestor to misrepresent the beliefs they adhered to while living. Particularly those held in captivity
@CostyBaba-Aka-Sulayman
@CostyBaba-Aka-Sulayman Жыл бұрын
Be strong on that conciousness or awakening
@Chahta_healer
@Chahta_healer Жыл бұрын
We aren't African Americans we are in truth the Aboriginal American Indians.
@CostyBaba-Aka-Sulayman
@CostyBaba-Aka-Sulayman Жыл бұрын
@@Chahta_healer 😂😂😂 indians 😅😅😅
@serekithegreat
@serekithegreat 7 ай бұрын
I have a huge, framed poster of Malcolm X on my wall. Listening to him speak never gets old. Such a strong, unapologetic man who wasn’t afraid to speak truth to power and to also demand that black people take a look at themselves and meet their own responsibilities to their families and communities. Rest in peace good sir. 💐🙏🏾
@stacyc8769
@stacyc8769 Жыл бұрын
What's so sad is this still applies today. Nothing has changed. If fact, it's gotten worst! 😢
@onlyonerealstar
@onlyonerealstar 7 ай бұрын
The lack of strength and education has failed just merely existing and full of corruption has failed our people the resort still the use of drugs which is a major cost wake up!!!!
@kgar5String
@kgar5String 7 ай бұрын
It has not gotten worse, you don’t know how it was, what have you faced that is so bad?
@ramonhaskins2101
@ramonhaskins2101 7 ай бұрын
@@kgar5String systemic racism! Red Lining, shady bank lending practice, being underpaid, racially profiling, un fair medical practices, discrimination in schools. I could go on for days but hopefully you get the point.
@phillyraider4927
@phillyraider4927 6 ай бұрын
So much has changed; with the type of jobs black men, and women are working today are much different from those in Malcolm’s time! What black needs to teach the young blacks the knowledge of self to grow strong!
@Ifonze
@Ifonze 5 ай бұрын
Just as he said it would but the Bible also tells us what is going to happen in the end times so if you want to learn more listen Big Judah, Elder Ahyal. Listen closely when Malcolm X speaks about the children of Israel if that doesn't sound like us then I don't know where your head would be at! Because it is us, they are us, and he was speaking about us. That no one else can show that Moses wasn't speaking to our forefathers! Who else has that history? Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68.
@hilltop54jungle48
@hilltop54jungle48 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm said we'll still be begging one hundred years from now. 🎯💯
@idread3523
@idread3523 Жыл бұрын
And we are. (Reparations, Affirmative Action) wah wah wah just whine and beg whine and beg. The jedi mind trick of the libs.
@Taygirl4Life
@Taygirl4Life Жыл бұрын
When you know you know!!!! I'm enraged and have been for quite sometime!!!
@omegawicked1
@omegawicked1 11 ай бұрын
yup
@NoStepOnNeck
@NoStepOnNeck 11 ай бұрын
So stop begging, be productive and make something of yourself.
@dantag5195
@dantag5195 9 ай бұрын
​@@NoStepOnNeckstill the white man controls the wealth
@95Ldunc
@95Ldunc Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X was a gifted and natural orator. He was so adept at using an analogy to drive home his point. Truly a great leader and a gifted man.
@stdm201
@stdm201 7 ай бұрын
All Gifts come from the Creator to achieve specific purposes in life....Those must be the big take away....Next how it applies to us as individuals.......Words to the wise! or the would be wise!
@docmarc36
@docmarc36 7 ай бұрын
this was a learned skill... Elijah taught him, and he was an exquisite student.
@95Ldunc
@95Ldunc 7 ай бұрын
@@docmarc36 I disagree that his natural ability to captivate an audience was a learned skill; any more than having a great singing voice is learned. If you remember, in his past life he was an effective con artist. He knew how to communicate with people both individually and collectively as an audience. While I would agree Elijah taught him about the principles of the religion, Malcolm’s natural giftedness is what made people stop and listen. Only Almighty God can gift people with natural talent like he had.
@seejames4u
@seejames4u 6 ай бұрын
Although, what I did notice, which was problematic for me, was that X wasted time trying too hard to be poetic, or profound - and wouldn't answer specific questions. I think sooooo highly of him and feel he was largely misunderstood as a complex human - in general, and that habit sometimes didn't help bring clarity to his messages. Bayard Rustin is also a powerful force toward the cause and even he was able to identify this type of occasional speaking (and even called X out on it - and compelled X to be more mindful of the specific question). Therefore, I thought X was the most clearest toward the end of the 60-minute conversation.
@95Ldunc
@95Ldunc 6 ай бұрын
@@seejames4u I understand what you’re saying but at the same time his use of analogies was very powerful in driving home a point. To provide an example, on many occasions he was labeled a “demagogue”. During his time under Elijah Muhammad (before his split with the Nation) He was asked by a white journalist (during the midst of segregation and the civil rights movement) the following question: “Why do you hate the white man?” His response was a word picture that was extremely impactful in silencing the journalist. Malcom’s response: “That’s like the rapist asking the victim why do you hate me?” Or the Wolf asking the sheep why do you hate me? If someone is oppressing you, why would you love them?” The point of this is to say that many times he used visual language and analogies to drive home a point even if not to the individual with whom he was having the discourse but to the audience member who had a preconceived notion as to who Malcolm was or what he stood for. Remember that the media labeled him as a dangerous hate monger whose sole purpose was to destroy the order of their society. He had a disdain for the pacifist like Rustin and others he felt were a mouthpiece for the establishment. While Rustin was speaking directly to Malcolm X, I think his Malcolm’s way of speaking was largely to impact the audience more so than to his opponent or the moderator.
@kathleenhurd205
@kathleenhurd205 9 ай бұрын
Listening to this 62 years later proves that Malcolm X has a point that needed to be considered. We have practiced what we thought was integration and now those same people are trying to show us that it was only to appease the government. They are trying to take us so far back it will seem like anything we thought we accomplished never existed.
@gatekeepercreative
@gatekeepercreative 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, but it wasn't Malcolm, it was the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad that he very eloquently articulated.
@domorehilton5476
@domorehilton5476 8 ай бұрын
​@@gatekeepercreativeTrue but he grew expanding his world view and became dangerous. Sadly. Brother turned against brother, divided we fell and lost a great leader.
@kgar5String
@kgar5String 7 ай бұрын
@@gatekeepercreative Then why was he the only on who spoke like that, Muhammad could not teach a replacement?
@gatekeepercreative
@gatekeepercreative 7 ай бұрын
@kgar5String have you never heard of Minister Farrakhan? You've never heard of minister Muhammad Ali, Jeremiah Shabazz, Theodore Hamza, Abdul Rahman, or his own son, Imam WD Muhammad? I mean ABSOLUTELY NO DISRESPECT to you, sir, but you are obviously not qualified to make a statement like this because you lack sufficient knowledge on the subject. Do some independent research. Farrakhan replaced him! And, if you want to be honest, Mosque number 7 grew to heights, in terms of memebership following, and influence in Harlem under minister Farrakhan, than it ever saw under minister Malcolm. In fact, as National Representative of the HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD, the position Malcolm held before him, minister Farrakhan was more successful in all regards than Malcolm was. Don't take my word for it. Do the research. And PLEASE understand, I am NOT trying to discredit or bash our fallen brother Malcolm. He was the best advocate and helper of the HEM during his time, and he should be respected for his contribution to the Nation, and to the struggle for Freedom Justice and Equality for Black people in this country. But if you want to exalt Malcolm above his teacher, or somehow single him out or set him apart from the body of knowledge and training he received from messenger ELIJAH Muhammad, or even reference him as an anomaly as opposed to simply one of many shinning examples of the teachings of the HEM, I'm sorry you're just DEAD WRONG!
@dro2real836
@dro2real836 5 ай бұрын
I see this, because I understand what black peoples plight in America has been from the very inception of this country. Keep in mind Black people were being lynched when my mother was a kid, my grandmother, who is from Lake Charles, Louisiana, watched her uncle, be beaten to death by a group of white men when she was a kid , this happened right in front of her she never really got over it and some of the stories she used to tell us would make your blood run cold. So true which is why when Donald Trump came along, he was able to galvanize white people by using the biggest dog whistle right in our faces make America great again let’s keep it real. When was America great for a black man?
@user-qg5je5ni4x
@user-qg5je5ni4x Жыл бұрын
Two fine, brilliant, articulate, informed, and cultured African Americans engaging & exchanging ideas intellectually. We must return to this type of civil engagement once again.
@khalessilindsey4085
@khalessilindsey4085 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Reelblack One, this is pure gold!
@reelblack
@reelblack Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed
@647boss2
@647boss2 Жыл бұрын
💯...this is amazing thank you🙏🏿
@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi
@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi Жыл бұрын
@@reelblack it is interesting that he says islam is not compatable with western ideals. muslims to this day readily admit this. also funny that malcom renounced the noi. also the call to pray, is not the same person often as the one who delivers the sermon. the noi is considered heretics by most muslims. they claimed elijah muhammad was a prophet and fard was allah incarnate. both concepts are blasphemy to sunni and shia islam.
@needles1975
@needles1975 Жыл бұрын
the vagina worth more than gold yet being sold For crack pipe as toilets. yes little girls will have to be married to a crypt or blood Hatfield and McCoy blue or gray and she will become black and blue for backing the blue also policeman were black. history always reveals our behaviors and today we have created an interspecies food chain children at the bottom being cannibalized girls are being raped boys are being sodomized and publicized on TV viewed in pornography but you cannot see because of Adolf Hitler's brainwashing machine not see Nazi-ism. Adolf Hitler's legacy is still alive we never eradicated it actually optimized in the form of Botox Cialis Viagra bleached booty holes, cardi B, sexxy red Nikki Manaj teaching and showing our little girls how to be successful make money selling the body selling a soul being ridden by many riders just like horses the more the merrier the more money yet soul their souls must be used as septic tanks.
@salj.5459
@salj.5459 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziHe never renounced Islam
@mjai1120
@mjai1120 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday, Malcolm X! Thank you for your important contributions to our black community and your sacrifice 🙏🏾
@poppacapps5573
@poppacapps5573 Жыл бұрын
The truth benefits us all.
@alhdafe
@alhdafe Жыл бұрын
The history is always teaching us, many people sacrificed to save lives of their loved people. Thank you for your words
@folaogun
@folaogun Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@jimmyhenderson9761
@jimmyhenderson9761 Жыл бұрын
Agree. The arc of history is toward justice and equality. Nationalism of any sort needs to be a bit suspect, but Malcolm's contribution was very well thought out, his intellect was great and his conduct was heroic. I wish his contribution was still being made not just on the internet.
@muslim7608
@muslim7608 Жыл бұрын
Seek Refuge in Allah (swt) Sister! the deceased can't hear you.
@johniwuh9316
@johniwuh9316 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X was way more intelligent, enlightened, informed and quick-witted than he was given credit for. Any other person could have been steamrolled by Bayard Rustin's arguments but Malcolm had an answer for any point Bayard came up with.
@jamesnevitt3400
@jamesnevitt3400 3 ай бұрын
Bayard was just looking for another white man to be a bottom to.
@luzmarquez9704
@luzmarquez9704 7 ай бұрын
This needs to be listened to today!! Thank you Rustin and Malcolm for your sacrifices
@ALIENDNA14
@ALIENDNA14 6 ай бұрын
Bayard Rustin was a known CIA asset, who also set Foundational Black Americans back politically, for decades... His only real interests, were centered around his fellow LGBTQ people... He wasn't making any type of sacrifices, which were also meant to benefit Foundational Black Americans...
@lancerendar
@lancerendar Жыл бұрын
Great debate by two sophisticated Black men. Need more of this today.
@neilrichardson7454
@neilrichardson7454 7 ай бұрын
you'd have to find more sophisticated black men 1st. 🤔
@girumzemichael704
@girumzemichael704 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@neilrichardson7454 I get what you mean, the state of education in general for everyone is grim but there are sophisticated black American intellectuals people know nothing of such as Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury, John McWhorter because the liberal machine doesn’t want it. It goes against its whole premise. And that is the one thing I agree with Malcolm X’s analysis on. Otherwise, he shares the same broken, not useful premises as the narrative he criticizes, which is a major reason that things haven’t changed for a portion of black America as much as they could have. For instance, the other guy in this debate I haven’t even heard of despite having been thinking deeply about these issues the past five years. His analysis and questioning of Malcolm’s premises and conclusions is more practical, useful, as history seems to suggest. The sad thing is people have been sooooo deeply propagandized that they see the fact that some of Malcolm’s observations are as relevant today as they were then, not as a failure of vision but as a confirmation of his correctness. Sad but it is what it is.
@andrethompson2034
@andrethompson2034 3 ай бұрын
Rustin was no light weight himself, definitely a giant by those who knew who he was
@JamesBrown-mw8ym
@JamesBrown-mw8ym Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X was a brilliant Man!
@JillianEmerson-me8cx
@JillianEmerson-me8cx 5 ай бұрын
Malcolm X has been my hero for a long time. I read his Autobiography several times and must read it again.
@HenryCovert
@HenryCovert 6 ай бұрын
Malcolm X is an actual American hero.
@goterri2013
@goterri2013 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Malcolm’s Words still rings true today!
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 Жыл бұрын
There were ppl on Twitter who were still attacking this great man.
@BLOCKBOI3RD
@BLOCKBOI3RD Жыл бұрын
Those are Elijah Muhammad 's words. You actually didn't hear him constantly reference the source? Public education failed us all 😂😂😂
@dwightlove3704
@dwightlove3704 Жыл бұрын
@@BLOCKBOI3RD EM was speaking the truth obviously
@BLOCKBOI3RD
@BLOCKBOI3RD Жыл бұрын
@@dwightlove3704 yet he was diddling Black girls.
@standaman1963
@standaman1963 Жыл бұрын
Yes it does.
@julesking54
@julesking54 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm was always spittin 🔥🔥🔥
@Thisistheday3
@Thisistheday3 Жыл бұрын
28:44 Malcolm broke it down and spelled it out! Thank you Sir!
@georgedavis6119
@georgedavis6119 9 ай бұрын
Malcolm was way ahead of his time. He has more knowledge than any leader we have had .
@giachellogene
@giachellogene 7 ай бұрын
Two words …. Thomas Sowell. He’s a million times smarter
@giachellogene
@giachellogene 7 ай бұрын
SoldMalcom… not uprooted and stolen … but sold.
@johnlambert891
@johnlambert891 Ай бұрын
Also not afraid to speak truth to power....these weak ass leaders now will never tell the establishment that they are to blame
@motorcat99
@motorcat99 28 күн бұрын
​@@giachellogene LMAOOOOOOOOOO
@kaohillfolks9355
@kaohillfolks9355 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X was a real gem. Loved how he subtly used Rustin's own argument of Moses and turned it on it's head, and very rightly termed it as a 'slave mentality'. From then on we can notice Rustin was nothing but defensive and argumentative.
@craigprice1598
@craigprice1598 Жыл бұрын
Oh Malcolm X most certainly flipped the script on The Moses narrative.
@seansmith3058
@seansmith3058 Жыл бұрын
Given what Rustin said about real Islamic and African history I'd say his points landed as well, it just took a few years.
@jamesnevitt3400
@jamesnevitt3400 5 ай бұрын
Rustin was just thinking about the next white man he was gonna sleep with!!
@nasirghaznawi1182
@nasirghaznawi1182 4 ай бұрын
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard@@seansmith3058
@user-vw6bk4pb4l
@user-vw6bk4pb4l 2 ай бұрын
@@seansmith3058 Rustin was completely wrong about African history. Islam reached the West African coast in the 11th century via trade, a significant part of West Africa was Islamic long before Europeans arrived and during the height of slavery. Ghana empire, Mali, Songhai, Wolof, Hausa, Fulani, Kanem-Borno etc. The destruction of African art was during the Fulani Jihad, with the likes of Uthman Dan Fodio et al. They imposed a strict verson of Islam on mostly already Muslim populations, this is well documented. Africans typically practiced syncretic Islam, adapting it with local beliefs.
@kwameaboagye-cl9me
@kwameaboagye-cl9me Жыл бұрын
Baba Malcolm X is my hero. He is outspoken, energetic, honest and unapologetic. Our role model to our youths.
@jamesa.romano8500
@jamesa.romano8500 3 ай бұрын
This is such a great find - I heard about this like 9 years ago on MHP and looked for it on YT but couldn't find it
@armbreakurrmacleod354
@armbreakurrmacleod354 Жыл бұрын
The most striking thing to me about this discussion is the contrast in style to debates today. These two men clearly disagree and yet give space for each other to express himself. I am not sure if this debate was broadcast or recorded which may account for the format, but it seems that current broadcasts and podcasts follow a different course. I hear the passion of both speakers, but their eloquence and manners speak more loudly. Great post!
@larabraver
@larabraver 2 ай бұрын
Well said - their eloquence and manners speak more loudly. 👏
@deborahmcneil788
@deborahmcneil788 Жыл бұрын
How ironic it is that the words spoken over approximately 60 years ago are still relevant today. We are still struggling to define our humanity in this country. Thank you, brother Malcolm for your insight and leadership. Peace be unto you always. Kiss Betty for me.
@cmartin5295
@cmartin5295 Жыл бұрын
Feel free to move to the utopia of sub-Saharan Africa. The place where blacks made your past family SLAVES before a European ever stepped foot there. Who then SOLD them to Europeans. Should be thanking your lucky stars you were born in America...
@alphonsomorris793
@alphonsomorris793 Жыл бұрын
We still striving because we always need cultural and moral reforms. The mass majority aren't educated properly on our history origin in this country. When u learn about the Antebellum in its entirety, it's easy to put the pieces together. Our foreparents had to build a culture under the hegemony of white society. It was to many white bottomlines and it had to be non threatening. To be made hole we always was going to need ethnic names, a dialect, cultural privacy, customs, traditions, garb, etc unique to us outside white Americanism.
@ministerstayfly9213
@ministerstayfly9213 Жыл бұрын
The Truth has no expiration date
@skyjuiceification
@skyjuiceification Жыл бұрын
Are u really struggling to define ur humanity? if humanity has any validity coming from the mouths of any critters out here it has to be the Africans and those who issue directly from them ethnically and historically. the gift and curse of being human was born in Africa, regardless of how the usual suspects would have us believe. As far as I'm concerned, a respectable commentary on human history has yet to be written, because, for whatever reason, we are not writing it. meanwhile, there is no human story if we are omitted from the telling. it was always questionable to rely too heavily on the tutilage of the prodigal son for a vision of who and what we are, or who we need to be. our humanity was never in question if we understand what humanity really means. ..it is what it is.
@donnimetropolis9899
@donnimetropolis9899 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the first few minutes again. Your humanity was intact the moment you were conceived. Regardless what scared people filled with hatred promote. The fight is to get them out of your way when you deal with them and to inspire those of color that have been confused. None of which appears to be natural to an ignorant large their past present culture unfortunately
@keepsit100atalltime9
@keepsit100atalltime9 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X would be disappointed in BP if he were alive today. It makes no sense that he gave us the game plan and we still fumbled the ball. Unacceptable! R.I.P. Prince Malcolm X
@mansamusa2012
@mansamusa2012 Жыл бұрын
This shows you that there is a mental problem in our community. Not to mention our community got bombarded by clowns 🤡 like the naacp.
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 Жыл бұрын
And there is no black man(or woman) alive that has the intelligence and strength of Malcolm x
@keepsit100atalltime9
@keepsit100atalltime9 Жыл бұрын
@@brianmeen2158 How do you know?
@gems3604
@gems3604 Жыл бұрын
BP in America listened to the wrong prophet. They wanted the smooth sounding rhetoric that Bayard Rustin penned for MLK. BP in America followed that roadmap. That generation is dying now. I'm not sure what is happening to the children of that generation, but only the remnant that is called to think for itself and can hear the words of Malcolm X and with the force of God move forward. People weren't ready for Malcolm. They called him angry, but he wasn't. He spoke the truth boldly and was killed for it.
@InIt2winIt247
@InIt2winIt247 Жыл бұрын
​@@gems3604a lot of the ones left from that generation are the reason why we are in the situation we are in now!
@sighannibal8326
@sighannibal8326 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this upload! Love this jewel of history!
@bigtopvoice2197
@bigtopvoice2197 7 ай бұрын
“Malcolm was our manhood. Our living Black manhood.”🙏🏿
@theorderofthebees7308
@theorderofthebees7308 6 ай бұрын
Ossie Davis
@jbalmir01
@jbalmir01 2 ай бұрын
He was African Americans' backbone and beating heart. Our true Black messiah
@voodoochile4147
@voodoochile4147 Жыл бұрын
“We don’t feel that the daily news is qualified to classify us as anything!” Listen! Don’t play in the minister’s face. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I absolutely love to hear brother Malcom debate. He’s such a quick thinker. Thanks Reel Black for sharing this debate. I’ve never heard it, and I’m grateful for this channel. Always learning new things here. Rest well brother Malcom 🙏🏾🌻🙏🏾 Happy birthday 💜
@reelblack
@reelblack Жыл бұрын
👊🏿
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
Awesome debater.
@marilyngilliam7607
@marilyngilliam7607 Жыл бұрын
Wish we had 10 more like Him.
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX Жыл бұрын
They stayed trying to play in brotha Shabazz's face. Lol
@tonymorgan2695
@tonymorgan2695 Жыл бұрын
​​@@marilyngilliam7607 100,000 thousand like him
@justmyopinion9883
@justmyopinion9883 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this lively debate between Minister Malcolm X and Mr Bayard Rustin. Minister Malcolm made the most sense to me in this debate. Of course, I've never saw him lose a debate so far. The man was brillant.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X said James Baldwin was his most challenging debater Malcolm X said it took all the strength he had even biting his lip to keep from cursing.
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 Жыл бұрын
@@aarondigby5054Baldwin was too emotional at times
@GodfreyTaiOyYong
@GodfreyTaiOyYong Жыл бұрын
I like them both!These two were such remarkable men!!My respects to them both!!
@truthgreatheart2514
@truthgreatheart2514 Жыл бұрын
​@@brianmeen2158 Baldwin's problem was constantly trying to prove to white Amerika that he was worthy
@xxcrump2640
@xxcrump2640 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that even today black men are still having to debate with the massa negro property.
@dennispearson871
@dennispearson871 9 ай бұрын
The Voice of Malcolm X always sounded unique and Futuristic as a Black Man in his time !! There was Literally no black man in America who sounded like him !! In Fact Malcolm Always Sounded like the Black Man of the Future already 3 Generations Ahead of His Time !!!....
@Cyber_Diva
@Cyber_Diva 5 ай бұрын
“Malcolm X educates Bayard Rustin.”
@lifestyle0889
@lifestyle0889 Жыл бұрын
This was so powerful, i have not heard more truth in an one hour video than my whole thirty-three years of life.
@actionpacked8779
@actionpacked8779 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm x was the truth when that brother spoke you had no choice but to listen...r.i.p Malcolm x
@n543576
@n543576 10 ай бұрын
23:56 As depressing and generally sad it is decades later proved that he was absolutely right IT DID NOT HAPPEN. No lie he had me dying here with how sarcastic and smooth his response was.
@biyyahtyler6574
@biyyahtyler6574 7 ай бұрын
I love hearing Malcolm speak. This was a great debate and should be shared with everyone we know! Thank you for posting this. May Allah continue to bless you.
@muckmuckthageneral2691
@muckmuckthageneral2691 Жыл бұрын
When Rustin Mentioned the Moses story, he cut himself. He threw an alley oop to Malcolm X
@craigprice1598
@craigprice1598 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and Malcolm X slammed it home!!
@tiz6549
@tiz6549 Жыл бұрын
Malcolms precise debates rival any debate today..
@johnstarling184
@johnstarling184 3 ай бұрын
I was born in the 50s MalcolmX is my political mentor I love that man l have all his Records and his tapes, when i pass from this walk of life my son wants those records😃
@Indigonatural
@Indigonatural 7 ай бұрын
Malcolm X teaches us to be self reliant, MLK initially spoke of integration. Eventually i think he realized they didnt want to help us, but to rely on them as they give us crumbs.
@ALIENDNA14
@ALIENDNA14 6 ай бұрын
It makes me sick to my stomach, the things that I've learned, over the last decade... If I could just fully describe the machinations, which have taken place in order to lead to the current condition of the Foundational Black American Community, then I honestly believe that it might just lead to an uprising... It's far worse than most people could even imagine... We're dealing with some of the most vile and wicked people, to have ever existed, in human History. In addition, I even question whether or not these monsters in question, are even humans, themselves... For many years these monsters have long ballyhooed, about whether or not, Foundational Black Americans were even human beings, to begin with; when in fact, that same mis-characterization should've been rightfully levied, against them. After all of the evidence has been fully collated and accounted for, are we still also to believe to ourselves, that these are the savage acts, of real human beings? Or perhaps, they're just another species entirely? It has been recently pointed out, that only Black people lack any Neanderthal genetic admixture; so again, are we dealing with an entirely different species?
@charlesmaddox8551
@charlesmaddox8551 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm is speaking about spiritual, practical solutions whereas Baynard is looking at only a practical
@ALIENDNA14
@ALIENDNA14 6 ай бұрын
Bayard Rustin's primary concern was always centered upon his sexuality, and also the political interests of other people, who also shared his sexuality... Ultimately, he really couldn't care any less, about the Foundational Black American Community and its overall plight... When you really think about, it actually makes a whole lot of sense; since we have to also take into account, that as a homosexual, he never really had any vested long-term interests in the future of the Foundational Black American Community, when he himself also clearly had no interests in sexual reproduction, or of starting a strong Foundational Black American Nuclear family...
@KingNez89
@KingNez89 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sister for posting this...I can listen to the honorable Malcom X speak all day long.....that brother is truly one of my idols forever...
@reggiep8821
@reggiep8821 Жыл бұрын
Brotha I feel same way.
@austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688 5 ай бұрын
honorable? he performed homosexual acts for money with a rich white man and i could list a million other things. Which is fine, not everyone is perfect, neither were the founding fathers, but in my opinion malcolm x didnt contribute anything to black people or their progress, unless you consider that any publicity is good publicity, because he certainly garnered publicity in a tabloid way with his vulgar statements and extremism.
@morningsideplaycare6825
@morningsideplaycare6825 6 ай бұрын
I am so impressed with both of these brothers. Brilliant! I always knew how brilliant Malcolm was. Not until I saw the movie Rustin, did I know how bright Bayard was. What a command of language have the people of African ancestry! So grateful to hear these two in debate.
@ALIENDNA14
@ALIENDNA14 6 ай бұрын
Nope! Bayard Rustin is complete trash; and also shouldn't even be spoken about, in the same breathe, as Malcolm X... Bayard Rustin was a CIA saboteur, and also wasn't even a Foundational Black American... As it turns out, he was a Caribbean tether, who also actively undermined the so-called Civil-Rights Movement. This is just History, that should be more widely known.
@racheal2036
@racheal2036 6 ай бұрын
"We will still be begging 100 years from now."
@jlilly7913
@jlilly7913 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing us this priceless Ourstory!
@karam8516
@karam8516 Жыл бұрын
This isn't a debate. Mr. Malcolm is making an effort to educate this guy.
@justmyopinion9883
@justmyopinion9883 Жыл бұрын
Kara M, well said. Thank you.
@QueenTrayGoddess
@QueenTrayGoddess Жыл бұрын
And did! Lol
@jalenakeem5059
@jalenakeem5059 Жыл бұрын
You must not know who “that guy” is.
@tiz6549
@tiz6549 Жыл бұрын
True but Gay Rustin wanted Malcolm and the rest of us to just continue to struggle in a system that wasn't meant for us.. "a system cannot fail those it was not meant to protect ". W E B Dubois..
@karam8516
@karam8516 Жыл бұрын
@@tiz6549 You are absolutely correct!
@savidwatkins9014
@savidwatkins9014 8 ай бұрын
This still applies today. *Malcolm X For President 2024*
@neilrichardson7454
@neilrichardson7454 7 ай бұрын
😂😂stop it. He'd be almost 100 years old.
@TakeaSwigofTheJuice
@TakeaSwigofTheJuice 7 ай бұрын
​@@neilrichardson7454 still younger than Biden
@neilrichardson7454
@neilrichardson7454 7 ай бұрын
@@TakeaSwigofTheJuice sadly, math isn't your strong suit😔
@jtorie1
@jtorie1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know if this is really a debate but the discussion is fire! Malcolm X is an excellent orator and talks circles around everybody!
@OfficialJoeBaz
@OfficialJoeBaz 8 ай бұрын
Well, it was supposed to be a debate until Malcolm's extraordinary intelligence and quick-witted responses turned Rustin into an interviewer.
@jeanettethomas8441
@jeanettethomas8441 Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to one of the most extraordinary role model for blacks all over the world he was, and still is as I remember him a trendsetter I will always keep his daughters in prayer Malcolm X was a great leader, taught great wisdom, and knowledge to the black community, and to anyone else that would listen to him know that he spoke the truth he lives on in us RIH My Beloved Brother✌🏽🫶
@Silk244
@Silk244 Жыл бұрын
Not one of!!!!! He's the one...!!!!
@isaacwells6528
@isaacwells6528 Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion from both brothers. “By any means necessary.” Malcolm X
@candacesmith4433
@candacesmith4433 5 ай бұрын
The one thing I loved most about Malcolm X was he had an 8th grade education but was self taught and could debate with men black or white who had advanced degrees and was so articulate. He was able to admit when he was wrong about something and was at the end of his life coming to work with MLK. He went to a rally a few weeks before his death where Coretta was participating and spoke, MLK was somewhere else. He wouldn’t have done this earlier and I believe he would have worked more with MLK had he not been murdered. He was so brilliant and his voice is so needed today.
@unique74muzik
@unique74muzik Жыл бұрын
Wowwwww.. I didn't know this existed!! Brother Malcolm was far ahead of his time with no equal while his message was giving us a roadmap for today. He was a General.
@antoniosorrell9516
@antoniosorrell9516 Жыл бұрын
2023 we still have sellout brother's scared to tell the truth Malcolm is 100% correct.
@plottageplottage2131
@plottageplottage2131 7 ай бұрын
Disagreement is not selling out!! That being said, I stand with Malcolm.
@ThaMuzikMediaMan
@ThaMuzikMediaMan 7 ай бұрын
He said we'll still be begging a 100 years from now, and I be dammed if we ain't doing it!
@antoniuselva
@antoniuselva 5 ай бұрын
We miss you Brother Malcom Africa really need you
@freedumtrayn
@freedumtrayn Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Brother RIP Rest in Paradise. We will always Love, cherish & use your Insight as a blueprint! 🗣you said it best “MAKE IT PLAIN” and that you most certainly did !!!!! Thank you Reel Black for sharing Bro. Malcolm!
@10InchSnow
@10InchSnow Жыл бұрын
50 years have passed and we still have the same problems
@earlybirdoutdoorz
@earlybirdoutdoorz Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X the Great
@TheOneTrueNoName
@TheOneTrueNoName Жыл бұрын
Always will until people stop depending on and fearing the government, and then the ignorant of our people that can be enticed by the Wyts will be a problem as well
@roddyboethius1722
@roddyboethius1722 9 ай бұрын
X would destroy Trump on stage
@josephineamawiafe9428
@josephineamawiafe9428 8 ай бұрын
Because you remain disjointed in your views! Blacks are never on the same page on anything!! We really don’t want to be free! Cuz the traitors will always want to think it’s better to still stay with the slave masters!!
@neilrichardson7454
@neilrichardson7454 7 ай бұрын
😊63 and we'll be that way for a longer time to come
@spiellyable
@spiellyable 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this entire interview and no less your last questions and his responses to those questions. So beautiful.
@sisterelleissachar2112
@sisterelleissachar2112 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@rick3y0
@rick3y0 Жыл бұрын
If a man puts a gun on you to force you to put your arm around me and act like you love me that’s hypocrisy
@courtneidavid
@courtneidavid Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing my comments to life ive written about the discord between mlk and malcolm x was because bayard rustin is who use to write mlk's speeches and someone went out and found the direct aim of my comment and brought the two heads together with this video it is very much appreciated and I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you❤
@virgilwimberly2071
@virgilwimberly2071 Жыл бұрын
Can you direct me to some of your writings on Malcolm X and MLK please?
@courtneidavid
@courtneidavid Жыл бұрын
@virgilwimberly2071 no, but I'm sure reading about them yourselves will inspire you to do great things
@365handle
@365handle 9 ай бұрын
Just listening to this debate has helped me put pieces together and understanding. I offer my thanks and gratitude to the folks who uploaded this. Malcolm explaination of the indoctrination of the black american on language, faith, etc helps with understanding the struggle of why in 2023 the propaganda is still relevant and though integrated, the struggle of black Americans hasn't changed. I will always remember this debate.
@CapitalG222
@CapitalG222 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this Important audio!!!!!!!! 👍🏾💪🏾
@antlive7955
@antlive7955 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X is my all time HERO!!
@NoopooHorg
@NoopooHorg Жыл бұрын
Malcom was sharp, powerful, & brilliant,, but please don't forget WHO taught him and built the things that Malcom was boasting about The Honorable Elijah Muhamad.
@kwameaboagye-cl9me
@kwameaboagye-cl9me Жыл бұрын
​@NoopooHorg Baba Elijah Muhammad inspired Baba Malcolm while he was in prison. Baba Malcolm self educated himself, reading so many books, writing in the dark and reading the whole of the dictionary.
@bobbieillz1
@bobbieillz1 Жыл бұрын
@@kwameaboagye-cl9meyes Elijah Muhammad was the spark that produced the Sun in Malcom X
@kevinjackson6420
@kevinjackson6420 7 ай бұрын
For me it’s: Jesus Christ My Biological Father Malcolm X ✊🏿
@georgeharris529
@georgeharris529 Жыл бұрын
Blessed earth strong Brother Malcolm✊ great discussion
@bqjones23
@bqjones23 7 ай бұрын
This was an amazing debate.... and not one time did I hear them demean or disrespect each other. Black excellence on both sides!
@user-lg3rx2ko5g
@user-lg3rx2ko5g 7 ай бұрын
Wow. This was incredibly insightful thank you to whoever saved this so it could be uploaded and shared with us today. Interesting how abruptly this debate ended and on which topic lol
@michaelbailey9763
@michaelbailey9763 Жыл бұрын
Two of the most important black men ever in history. Malcolm we need you now more than ever. Bayard thank you for your amazing organizational skills for the movement for "all people"
@dguthrie1
@dguthrie1 Жыл бұрын
Lol to u I only like Malcolm
@michaelbailey9763
@michaelbailey9763 Жыл бұрын
@@dguthrie1 Well without Bayard there wouldve never been an "organized" or "executed" Civil Rights movement brother...FACTZ!!!
@dguthrie1
@dguthrie1 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbailey9763 that not facts that goofy buck didn’t do anything marching and singing did nothing we always fall fr bs
@dguthrie1
@dguthrie1 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbailey9763 you are no brother just a blind buck like him
@michaelbailey9763
@michaelbailey9763 Жыл бұрын
@@dguthrie1 Factz are that the marching and praying is the only reason your black ass and my black ass aint picking cotton and tobacco anymore bruh....i was there
@BonjourP
@BonjourP Жыл бұрын
17:45 - 19:00 Malcom is literally describing what's happening in Ukraine right now. WOW!
@kobinasagoe7407
@kobinasagoe7407 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome observation 👏!
@carcher3279
@carcher3279 Жыл бұрын
And THIS is why we call him a PROPHET! 👍🏿🙏🏿🤲🏿❤ Malcolm's insight is eternal.
@carcher3279
@carcher3279 Жыл бұрын
Very ironic that all this is happening under a current government of so-called "white liberals" in 2023. They have never really hidden their true selves from black people, it's always whether or not we choose to see what is before our eyes.
@carcher3279
@carcher3279 Жыл бұрын
US "liberal" Democrats in Washington DC partnering up with Ukrainian N**is ... Science Fiction novelists couldn't make this stuff up, I wonder if Malcolm could have imagined such a wild scenario in the future?
@lukesworld76
@lukesworld76 Жыл бұрын
That’s what came to mind when I heard that part
@terrenceduren2984
@terrenceduren2984 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! Both men were intelligent but Malcolm X owned this debate!
@g7924
@g7924 7 ай бұрын
Religion to solve the problem of the so called negro? Just a different one? Really?
@Shawntraci
@Shawntraci 8 ай бұрын
One of the best things about Malcolm X is he didn't mince words. The truth he spoke hurt the ears and minds of those who were trying to make him out to be militant, terrorist, or a host of other ugly terms. The truth doesn't change just because it doesn't feel good...
@BlackBiker1017
@BlackBiker1017 Жыл бұрын
Brother Malcom is the Greatest Leader we ever had!!! 🤲🏽✊🏽
@TakeaSwigofTheJuice
@TakeaSwigofTheJuice 7 ай бұрын
Relax buddy. Ever hear of Jesus?
@BlackBiker1017
@BlackBiker1017 7 ай бұрын
@@TakeaSwigofTheJuice Get off my 🍆 go find u some business 🤡
@hraddle50
@hraddle50 5 ай бұрын
​@@TakeaSwigofTheJuiceReally 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️😫😫😫
@rickyd8353
@rickyd8353 Жыл бұрын
Malcom, expressed what we as a people needed. I was a teenager at that time. His preaching gave us all a firm direction.
@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484
@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484 Жыл бұрын
And 50 hrs later black men haven’t gotten better but worse
@kingrayog
@kingrayog Жыл бұрын
@@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484 SYSTEMS!!! Systemic racism has caused that and we will always struggle under predatory racist capitalism.
@harmoniousmonkey
@harmoniousmonkey Жыл бұрын
So, why haven’t black people left America or created a land of “their own” over all the years since the Black Muslims became a minor force in Black culture? Because separation is impossible. Because religion is authoritarian, anti-freedom puff.
@mryardiedescendant
@mryardiedescendant 11 ай бұрын
@@harmoniousmonkeyNotwithstanding the failures or successes, if separation was beyond the realm of possibility, then why did the ACS establish Liberia? Ironically, the idea of black separatism isn’t even fully unique to the NOI. Liberia was proposed a solution because the fate of freed Black people was still in the air. They were free, but at the time they weren’t considered American citizens and were denied the privileges and protections such a status affords. Even after the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868, the withdrawal of federal troops from the South basically sealed the fate of African Americans for nearly a century, because White southerners realized that may not have been able to deny Black people their citizenship rights, but they could reduce the quality of it by effectively making them second class citizens, which is what segregation effectively did. You can call the ideology flawed, but who wants to be treated like an alien in what is suppose to be their own country? I can understand the rationale behind Malcolm’s thoughts.
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 9 ай бұрын
​@@mryardiedescendant59:00 nailed it with propaganda
@jacquelinelowery5589
@jacquelinelowery5589 8 ай бұрын
Malcom X is so full of knowledge. I hope Bayard learned a few things from him.
@apachemimi9762
@apachemimi9762 Жыл бұрын
Keep them coming!!
@makavelisoulja
@makavelisoulja Жыл бұрын
It's always an honor to listen to this debate. Both brothers made good points and I learned a lot. No arguing or fighting just two men having a good conversation.
@jamesmichael7832
@jamesmichael7832 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! This was an excellent discussion between the two brothers, regardless of how you fee.l Some people are making comments addressing Mr. Rusting as "Some guy." REALLY? Are they that unfamiliar with this historic man? As the saying goes, "If you don't know, you'd better ask somebody!!!"
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
@25:25 Devine separation, that's what I'm talking about. Everybody wasn't down with that "turn the other cheek" love your enemy, we wanted total separation and autonomy. Land for peace.
@bakhembrutalknowledge
@bakhembrutalknowledge Жыл бұрын
Malcolm performed great in this one-sided debate. It would have been nice to see Malcolm question and grill Rustin in the same manner that Rustin questioned him. ✌🏿
@SuperOmnicronsj44
@SuperOmnicronsj44 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because he was a homosexual sympathiser and a democratic self inserter that was programmed to obey their cause , and it continues TO THIS DAY.
@wbharvey504
@wbharvey504 Жыл бұрын
​​@justthink5854T he government is and never was Muslim. It's amazing how yall always ignore shhh to fit your narrative. Obviously that proves you to be a liar
@fredd.clayton6441
@fredd.clayton6441 Жыл бұрын
​@@wbharvey504 now
@wbharvey504
@wbharvey504 Жыл бұрын
@justthink5854 CAN you? D*mb a**
@bakhembrutalknowledge
@bakhembrutalknowledge Жыл бұрын
@Just think Yes, really. Malcolm spent the whole time defending his position, and he did it well. Not once did Rustin have to defend his position.
@jr5296
@jr5296 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this.
@barbararigney2039
@barbararigney2039 8 ай бұрын
He spoke Truth and it's all coming to light. Malcolm X was a prophet in his time.
@BuddhaLove77
@BuddhaLove77 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm X. Happy Birthday What a wonderful discussion!
@FredWoodard
@FredWoodard Жыл бұрын
This a mature and friendly discussion. Both points of view are clearly stated. Thanks for posting !
@roberthalyard683
@roberthalyard683 11 ай бұрын
Malcolm gave the "full clip" to every question ever asked. I wonder if it ever hurt to be as great as he was.
@roddyboethius1722
@roddyboethius1722 9 ай бұрын
It must have hurt him to know the truth. He gave up his life to speak it.
@lezzulee
@lezzulee 8 ай бұрын
Refreshing to hear this conversation ❤
@gems3604
@gems3604 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Malcolm was a prophet. This is an example of how social media allows knowledge to be introduced, shared and consumed.
@waynebaker5720
@waynebaker5720 Жыл бұрын
Right on Many are getting connected to the mind of Malcolm This type of content is what wRong desatanist wants to destroy. ..
@BLOCKBOI3RD
@BLOCKBOI3RD Жыл бұрын
Nah he was in a personality cult and you will find yourself in one if you think we still have prophets. He is quoting his leader and he keeps referencing him. Yet you think those are his own words.
@kekejohnson687
@kekejohnson687 Жыл бұрын
Elijah Muhammad was the teacher. What does that make him.
@truthmatters3717
@truthmatters3717 Жыл бұрын
If a person has heard something about the situation of the history of a nation, or a people that are supposed to be for the people, but their track record shows that they are not for the people,why do you think that brother Malcom, if he agrees with the person that's teaching,Is speaking the truth, if that's what you want..no matter who's telling it,what'sthe problem?. PEACE
@outstandingomar1922
@outstandingomar1922 Жыл бұрын
He died saying there's only one god and Mohammed is his last prophet. That's Islam.
@lamelprince9278
@lamelprince9278 Жыл бұрын
Never saw this thanks for posting this
@onajeofficialmusic
@onajeofficialmusic 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this @reelblackone Increíble discussion between highly intelligent people who were respectful of each other’s differences.
@plusone8015
@plusone8015 Жыл бұрын
By Any Means Necessary is one hell of a book ❤
@paulakelley6883
@paulakelley6883 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm was brilliant!
@alhdafe
@alhdafe Жыл бұрын
He was right all the time, even he was wrong. That is the point of truthfulness
@alhdafe
@alhdafe Жыл бұрын
In one hour, he covered all the African history
@williedavis7884
@williedavis7884 Жыл бұрын
Powerful. I really enjoyed it
@williedavis7884
@williedavis7884 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@everistgill2492
@everistgill2492 Жыл бұрын
​@@alhdafe pl5 eeß❤❤❤❤❤❤
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