Not really the same, but I get it.

Tyra would do it on ANTM 🤷🏾‍♀️💀

Actually that's how I overcame my fear of spiders

Well, it's a good thing this is T.V show then. 🤣

Exposure therapy can work, but it has to be gradual, very very slow. Not “throw his wife at him, it’ll be fine.”

Humans have this weird tendency to want to be right, so right that they'll deny anything no matter how dangerous or stupid. I'm guessing that the wife didn't want to think that her husband was crazy or needed medical help, so much so that she was willing to ignore or deny his needs.

Younger inexperienced ones always think they know best. She was wrong as hell

I hoigt she was going to die

The bigger issue is that she didn't do it for the patient She was testing herself with a patient She did it for herself

@@samhouston1646 no...she was right 🤨 what are you talking about end end of the clip clearly show that

Literally every healthcare professional most basic thing to do is get patient consent

She’s 4th year med student

Or even proper assessment.

@@sofiamastroiacovo7441 psychiatric

@@thythyy7633 she had already graduated in this episode, she's now a psychiatry resident

It’s a show…. It’s scripted that way for drama

Well, Reese isnt a psychiatrist, shes a 4th year Med student. (I havent gotten to this season yet so I dont know if thats changed) so she's probably going based off of her training and what she knows. It also happened with another doctor where a patient was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder via Dr. Charles and the doctor (With his own mental health issues) told him she should learn to cope. Later that day, he went to Charles and broke down about how he remembers his time in Afganistan since he was a Lt. In the Navy. My point is, Reese isnt a psychiatrist, shes an in training doctor. And of course, this is a show. Accuracy gets blown out the window for drama. Theres another doctor who revived a DNR because he thought better than the patient, so I'm quite pissed at that.

@@blazeravenscar so she's only a student, but won't listen to her adviser? Isn't that more wrong? She deliberately acted on what she does, neglecting what REAL psychiatrist said.

@@blazeravenscar at this point in the show she’s doing her residency i think

@@ninectstay_ I'm not saying what she did was right, I was only trying to reason on her possible viewpoint. Theres alot of these rash decisions based on ones personal emotions going on in this show, as I had stated on the DNR section, and frankly, putting yourself in a room with a potentual willing murderer is pretty fucking stupid. Especially if you dont have the right training equipped to handle the potentual violent outcome, be it a psychiatrist or someone who could subdue them.

Which platform

@@PcfulSol peacock! It’s free and has a lot of other shows too.

@@PcfulSol also Netflix

I’m glad. It’s my favorite medical show because everything from the writing to the directing is so well done and it’s entertaining and educational. I’m sure you will/have enjoyed it

@@PcfulSol and Netflix. I love Netflix and Peacock sometimes doesn’t work

Who?

@@mairak902 the woman who was in the room with him

@@_nwoony her name is Sarah resse Dr. Resse (Not trying to be rude)

Why would a "psychologist" be appalled by the actions of a character in a TV show?

@@assassin971 I mean, I know there have been instances of people mimicking television and it going terribly wrong because what they watched was dangerous or harmful. People already love role-playing as a therapist when their friends have personal problems

As a patient since like 5, psychologists DO NOT care about consent, they will mention it but theyre the best at wording it in a way that gets the yes out of you, countless court cases have been won proving this, my own included. The lady on the show did straight up do something really wrong tho, very careless.

You know I'm something of a psychologist myself. All kidding aside, I am the same as you are. This is reckless, dangerous, stupid, and unprofessional. This is just beyond the pale of stupid. She would have been immediately sent for board review if this was real life.

As a psychologist and 30 year patient I disagree with your dumb statement

They would make them hold a knife tho but “imagine I’m your wife” isn’t so common.

They would LMFAAOOOO series like Chicago med, 911 are based off of real events

Or think treatment is a one size fits all. Or think hey this worked for me, ergo it must work for you to. without even considering the patients specific medical history and needs.

@@matildauebel7599 first of all, she was right. Second of all, for certain types of mental disorders, it is as simple as a one or few sizes fits all in the sense that there are limited or very specific treatments. There quite literally is hardly any other options for pure OCD and exposure therapy is completely safe, I have never heard of a person to actually commit the actions of whatever the intrusive thoughts are, but if its happened then its a small percentage for certain.

Dr Reese is an exception. She's gone through a lot in her life.

Agreed. What she did was not only stupid but incredibly dangerous, for her and the patient.

Exposure therapy is good if done right. He WASN'T in a safe environment. They were both alone in there...

He could've also turned the knife on himself if he thought it was the only way to stop himself from killing another person.

Agree with you

You don't understand OCD at all. He doesn't have violent urges, he wasn't actually going to kill anyone. Of course the rest of your comment is true.

Thank You!!! She literally made him emotionally jump off of a cliff just to prove the bungee cord was working. It was insane! Exposure Therapy is absolutely gradual and incremented out at the client's ability to cope, not based off of where a stranger decides where it should be. Good Grief. Not only did she flood him, she unleashed a Waterfall onto him. He could have killed her then himself. She needs to be locked up for a few more therapy sessions too. Geesh, and to know some so-called professionals will just risk it all to prove their point like that. Most won't, but there are some. Terrifying.

@@dr.100purrscent5 Exactly!! I know this is only a TV show, but it's kind of dangerous to portray exposure therapy this way! Especially when you consider that people watching might be put off by this, when it's the best thing for them. I think you have to be so much more careful when you're portraying things like mental health for drama, because there are real world consequences to making something like exposure therapy out to be this kind of awful experience! That being, real world people don't get the support they desperately need.

Exposure therapy can be both, flooding and gradual, it's just an issue that should be discussed with the patient previously.

@@erikaortiz927 I was always told by my therapists that flooding was a completely different thing, and that it was shown to be far less effective 😂 Whereas gradual exposure gave far better results. Either way, it's very irresponsible of a show about doctors and therapy to do something like this, and negatively impact how people will view exposure therapy

@@dr.100purrscent5 I agree that she totally did ERP wrong, but the patient was not going to kill her or himself. The point of OCD is that the things you obsess over are the farthest from your actual personality possible. Doing ERP too fast was not going to turn him into the monster he thought he was.

As someone who HATES being forced... sometimes its THE ONLY WAY to make something stop

@@rhiannonphoenix5426 that may be true but it's actually goes against the rules of her practice, she HAS to have patient consent, it's not a choice it is REQUIRED

actress did a good job of showing her resentment at being called out at the end and still feels like she is right!

@@rhiannonphoenix5426 mnJjjJjNkK

M’n. Lakes ❤

This clip literally just showed it to you though... He has a mental condition, he's not a murderer. He has harm OCD. Go look it up and also look up ERP. Might give you a better understanding of mental health.

He would never bcause its ocd. Whatever is important to you can be an ocd theme.

@@keschmesch Yeah that could be true, it just didn’t seem right at first but it’s probably just a fear of thought 💭

Right? Tv gotta tv though

No, you're totally right; the other people responding to you obviously aren't very knowledgeable about mental health. When people have thoughts like that, they don't tell anyone about them because it makes them feel awful. In order for them to actually say something about it, they have to be seriously afraid that they'll hurt someone. It's common for people to ask for help and be brushed off, then end up hurting or even killing themselves and/or others. That happens a lot with postpartum depression and psychosis. I've lived with thoughts of hurting people since I was little due to my OCD and although it made me feel like a bad person, I was never afraid enough that I would act on them to tell anyone. I mean I also assumed it was normal and everyone had them, but I never felt like I would do any of it. There was only one day, a few years ago, that I was really unsure of what I would do enough to voice it. My sister and her kids were visiting my mom and I in our apartment, and I was being asked to babysit her kids so they could go somewhere. I don't really remember what was going on, but it was late at night, and it would have been just me and the babies. I had to say no because I was feeling completely not like myself, and didn't know what I would do if left alone with them. I was really stressed, and being in charge of a newborn and two toddlers, with all that crying and no help, I knew it wouldn't be safe for them. It's hard to explain. So I said no, that I didn't trust myself with them because I felt unsafe, and my mom got mad at me. She said I would be fine, I would never hurt them, all stuff along those lines. And of course I didn't want to hurt them, I love them with all my heart, and that's exactly why I had to stand my ground. My mom told me I was being selfish, and they were just going to go anyway because I couldn't go anywhere, and I told her if they left, I would too. I would leave the apartment and just keep walking; it would be safer for them to be alone than to be with me at that point. They ended up not going, because she knew I wasn't bluffing, but she was still really mad at me. But I cared more about the safety of my nieces and nephew than my mom's feelings. I'm never going to let someone make me into another preventable tragedy just because they think they know my brain and feelings better than I do.

I'm not a therapist but I agree. I've had terrible thoughts and when I was younger it horrified me because I didn't think people should have thoughts like that but then I met my husband and he had random horrible thoughts and I realised that not acting on the thought makes you a good person and it's ok to have them.

True. We all have bad thoughts. I've had really bad intrusive thoughts, still do. I just continually pray and recite certain bible verses. It's freeing. One thing I want to say is that we aren't animals.

True that's what separates use rational thinking humans from animals, our control not to act on those thoughts that we all have.

@@jeanfelix9696 Yes we are. Biologically speaking, we are all animals. We have similar insticts, behaviours, physical processes etc.

I agree, people have different capacities of handling and processing thoughts or situations, some lack the right chemicals in the brain in order to react on something reasonably, others react based on their sensitive nerves, others react very logically, others approach it very calmly and relax, etc. We are all unique on handling situations, that's why there are good people and bad people, also a very big factor are the different environments we all grew up with, cause those experiences molded us to the person we are today🥰

Also if I not mistaken, her dad is psychopath too or something in this degree.

I agree, that lady is crazy

I think he should have fired her, and I don’t think she’s fit to practice as a psychiatrist.

She’s always been a simmering pot of instability. Zero empathy. Zero boundaries. Zero guilt.

She should have been fired. I would have fired her. Reason being that medical professionals have to be trustworthy. If someone is seeking help, they need to be able to help without placing anyone in harms way with their negligence. It's a higher standard of care. She failed to maintain it. Next time, she may not be so lucky. This could have ended in tragedy for her, him, and the hospital being liable for for failure.

honestly, that. is accurate to what being admitted to mental hospitals is like LMFAO. (not this scenario, but walking out with more trauma than you had when you were admitted)

@@laava32 Yeap!

i mean thats quite literally what is done in exposure therapy for ocd. people with ocd are not more likely to harm someone than a normal person, in fact theyre even less likely because theyre terrified of it happening. thats the whole point of ocd. someone with this type of ocd would be encouraged to be around knives because it helps show them there's nothing to be afraid of.

The I’m 20 and know everything about everything because I graduated from medical school yesterday kind of insanity

@@mieeuhh it is but it’s done over time while very gradually introducing the item. In the real world she would have either been killed or immediately barred from ever seeing a patient again ….

@@chrissegee she wouldn’t have been killed. people with this type of ocd don’t want to harm anyone

@@mieeuhhit hasent been proven it was ocd is the thing. There was no diagnosis. She was testing a theory. Which wouldn’t work in the real world

I've never been diagnosed but have believed from my teen years that I'm OCD. I fixate on bad thoughts. It's never harming others but bad things happening to myself. It scares me because I don't want them to happen but once it's in my head It's almost impossible to shake.

@@cassandrahepp6445 *have not am, sorry just trying to educate ;)

@@LeaLikesIcecream??? Not following...

I had a phobia of chemicals years ago that returned as fear of lead. Lead can be in everything. It's been very difficult and I don't think exposure therapy will work. Can't help but think I could be poisoned while doing it which will defeat the purpose of trying to get better. Having an anxiety disorder could be making it worse.

@@cassandrahepp6445 isnt ocd the one where u have to have everything perfect and everything in order-?

Sending thoughts and prayers to you

Woooow, sending prayers for you too.

same, and the pressure of 'this is your opportunity' can actually lead to hurting yourself because it becomes so overwhelming

True, but intrusive thoughts and ideation are VERY different

@@korinnab.2318 YES! Thank you so much for making this point. Intrusive thoughts are terrifying for the person experiencing them, but people with OCD do not act on those thoughts. It's an extremely important distinction to make.

He doesn't have homicidal ideation.

You don’t know that he was experiencing homicidal ideation, he had not been diagnosed with anything, yet. He very well may have had instrusive homicidal thoughts, as she believed, and it’s likely he did. That doesn’t make what she did any less unconscionable.

Do you all know what season and episode this is from?

Well it is cos she knew what was wrong with him. He has harm ocd. It’s when you want to harm and you have these awful thoughts but you’d never actually impact on those thoughts as they’re too scary for you and you’d be really scared to actually do it. Most people who have this sort of ocd can live with it without being hospitalised at all. Yeah okay something could of gone wrong but she knew what she was doing

No shir

Would not have happened in real life

yeah the ethics of this is not something to be admired

I was more terrified that he was going to take the knife to himself. Especially right after he said he did not want to hurt her and that he couldn't. I got super nervous that he was going to hurt himself to stop the thoughts. This was just a TV show with very likely a prop, but if this was ever done in real life it would be fucking insane. I would want to admit the doctor/nurse that thought this was a good idea.

He could have also done self harm to protect her from himself seen it a few times in hospital.

No

@@willywonkausername what do you mean by no?

That guy fantasizing to kill his wife!

​@@livesontrialyea and he wanted help

and also, why use a real big ass knife from the start? I know it's probably not the exact same thing but start with one of those rubber knives they use for self-defense classes or those disposable plastic ones that can't even cut regular food. Yes, I know this is a TV series, lol.

Clearly you don’t understand what she just proved. He has harm ocd, and he would never impact on his thoughts. That’s the whole point. This has been riven and it’s a classic ocd example. People with this sort of ocd never impact on their thoughts. Cos they have a conscious and they’re not psychotic, they’re just struggling with a mental health issue.

@@backisayback5147 I fully understand what she just proved... I'm not dense. The thing is, that has nothing to do with my comment...

@@backisayback5147 buuuut, he was not ready for the confronting thing you know? He could harm himself trying avoid hurt someone he love. She proved her point at the worst way possible, in literal harm's way.

Our entire lives we suppress our impulses, that’s why we are able to function as a civilization and people aren’t just stealing and killing each other. We suppress our bodily functions in public. Why would thoughts be any different?

@@DenseCortex The thing about anxiety is that it is an irrational fear. Even if you know something for a fact, you still get locked into the thought process that causes the anxiety and in my case it can create a negative feedback loop where I just feel worse and worse, the worst time it happened I felt like I was gonna pass out on the bus.

Can't you just watch the clip without turning it about you?

@@WanderingRogue1 your experience is your experience.

That sounds like OCD as well. If you can, go see a doctor. They can prescribe meds or recommend maybe psychologist or therapist. I take medication for my OCD and it gave me the power to just wave away that specific thought

Yep, he was asking for help while still have a conscience stopping him from make this, that's his fear, that at some moment the conscience go out for a second and the rest you know.

Locking a patient into an encounter with a dog (avoidant behaviors are not possible) sounds like a great way to develop PTSD from the experience. I assume you've read the body keeps the score (or at least I hope you have as a psych grad) and that is painted by an accidental clinical trial where animals who had their fight flight freeze mechanisms interrupted by being locked in a cage developed symptoms of PTSD compared to dogs that weren't locked in a cage walking away fine. This should NEVER be the first method of treatment, because it's got a really good chance of traumatizing the patient even more and overshadowing a scratch by a bullet hole and calling it good because the patient no longer notices the scratch.

I have intrusive thoughts too but they immediately go away and i tell myself that’s wild and I move on w my day like nothing happened. If it keeps happening and the thoughts are interfering w ur life the best course is to see a professional

I don't have ocd but this type of thought. The funny thing is that yesterday, I got this thought of stabbing my mom repeatedly until I feel satisfy. I kept searching all site if this was normal to some people when I actually think it is not normal. I'm scared if someday I take another step to let it happen. And now, I found this vid in my recommendation.

@@namdokfem1717 it could be ocd.

@@namdokfem1717 That's definitely not normal. The sole thought of harming my mother repulses me and there is no satisfaction there. Is the thought pleasant in itself or is it the fear that you would enjoy it? You have to ask yourself if doing that is actually something you like or not. Recreate the scenario in your head and name the emotions. Either way, i think you should seek help

@@Butterfly_towards_jannah I think enjoying these thoughts is not normal and i would suggest going to therapy because that's not OCD but real homicidal intentions. Even if you say you wouldn't do it, you don't know, especially if the thought is enjoyable

She has to be insane to do something this risky and stupid.

Same here!!!

It's called pure ocd. It's internal

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Are you better now? Best wishes and pray for you.

Exposure therapy is the most successful way to treat ocd. The way you’re therapist did it was unethical and irresponsible. I do exposures for my ocd and it has been the most helpful thing ever

That's depends, it have to be consentend, slowly and of course, after a time of treatment, sorry, not a specialist talking here, just the logical sequence in my head.

However, I hate how taboo the doctor is acting. Those with ocd thoughts are compelling opposite of who they are. Exposure therapy is not as “crazy” as portrayed. It is the number one treatment for ocd

While yes, it's nice to see Pure O in a TV show, both doctors were still perpetuating misinformation. As opposed to what Dr. Charles said, people with Harm OCD do not need to be committed to psych wards and they cannot feel "safe" from their thoughts. If you give OCD an inch (e.g separating him from his wife and putting him in a place with doctors who would prevent him from doing harm) it will take a mile. The reassurance will feel nice for the moment and then OCD will move on and start gaslighting you again in all sorts of fun new ways. That's how the disorder works; no amount of safety precautions will ever satisfy it. And as opposed to what Dr. Reese did, ERP should be performed gradually and with the patient's ok. Aggressively flooding the patient all at once without their consent is highly unethical and could actually be traumatizing. These distinctions are important because Dr. Charles' bias might make undiagnosed viewers less likely to reach out for help for fear of being involuntarily committed, and more inclined to believe their brain that they are actually at risk of harming others. And for those who already know they have OCD but are reluctant to start treatment, Dr. Reese's missteps might dissuade them. It sucks because this show had such a great opportunity to raise awareness about the realities of OCD, but I think they might have pushed awareness efforts farther back. Sigh. We have such a long way to go in order to get OCD portrayed accurately in television and the mainstream.

@@gymnasticsgirlie0647 I 100% agree. I just meant it as finally the media is taken a step back from the contamination and symmetry themes of OCD and expanded into more common and realistic ones like harm. Still a very long way to go but it’s a start

No, Sewerslidal OCD is actually a common theme. I've had that theme of OCD and, later, the real thing because of adverse events going on in my life, and I can tell you that they feel very different. When it was an OCD theme, I was scared of the thoughts and I dreaded having them. I tried to get them out of my head and reassure myself I did not actually want that. I have a distinct memory of being in a parking garage on a high floor and refusing to go near the edge for fear of jumping off. When I got the real thing years later, I actually agreed with the thoughts. It was always passive, never active, so I never actually had a plan, but I still thought about it a lot. The thoughts didn't scare me. Any therapist worth their salt should be able to tell the difference between the two.

@akira I understand they wanted to show her incompetence. The problem is whether you are incompetent or not, no sane person or medical professional would give a psychotic patient a weapon and tell them to use it on them. I could understand another object but a knife???! Completely unrealistic even if they were trying to demonstrate her ignorance as a character.

@akira right

I think you vastly underestimate the ignorance of humans. She's a young student in training, not a professional. The only reason you call this "unrealistic" is because you, personally, have never seen a person this stupid. I have, and so have many other people. Isn't there a quote that goes along the lines of "fiction makes more sense than reality"? There are some wild stories, mostly caused by the grave idiocy of people. A person still in the learning process being stupid enough to endanger their's and another person's lives is definitely realistic. You're projecting your personal experiences onto the show and judging it based on that, which I don't think is fair.

@Kora is your o key having a seizure?

There is this series called "Pure", it is about a woman who deals with sexual intrusive thoughts. It is a comedy but the intrusive thoughts aren't played for laughs. I'd recommend checking it out

But on the flip side that’s definitely not how a doctor should handle ERP on the first visit lol 😂 have the man write down his fears or openly discuss his fears first. Don’t go straight to the “you can slit my throat” thing and give him a knife lol 😂

thank you man, I really needed to hear this. i have terrible anxiety and also bad harm ocd. i still think im a criminal even though my therapist and parents try to tell me otherwise. ive gotten used to it gradually, and the thoughts aren't as scary anymore, but everytime im not so scared of them i think im even more of a psyco. i know its just thoughts, its just the thought of what if it isnt a thought that terrifies me every time. i hope you recover well, thank you for posting this. it really made me feel better

took the words right out of my mouth