Hey man, where did you publish your study?? I would love to read it.

Same here

Did you just forget marn Grook the oldest ball sport. L

Isn't cuju from the Han dynasty as reported here? If so that's not the "late medieval age".

such as?

Alessandro Sozzi guarda il sepak takraw dalla Thailandia é una cosa pazzesca la bravura che hanno quei ragazzi nel primo controllo con un pallone lanciato a quella velocità (per me questo é lo sport che richiede più abilità individuale al mondo, non ho praticamente le parole perché é di una difficoltà assurda, spero lo introducano alle Olimpiadi e si diffonda in tutto il mondo ora Nell era di internet) , oppure c è una sorta di danza inglese appunto con una pallina minuscola ( cerca hacky sack best routine mi pare, c’è un ragazzino bravissimo che palleggia questa pallina a ritmo) e da questo hacky sack deriva il footbag net (qualche video lo si trova) simile al sepak takraw pero giocato con questa pallina minuscola (anche se i giocatori di quest ultimo non mi sembrano professionisti, cioè da l’idea che il gioco sia troppo difficile anche per chi lo pratica e servirebbe creare una scuola e renderlo più conosciuto per alzare il livello

@@lorenzoloviselli1900 Grazie per la risposta! Molto interessante. In termini di cronologia sai se gli sport da te menzionati sono stati praticati prima o dopo del cuju cinese?

Alessandro Sozzi tutti dopo: quello thailandese nel 1500 dopo cristo, invece quell altro più diffuso in Europa ha anche lui origine in Asia però solo un paio di secoli fa, ed é arrivato in Europa negli anni settanta e da questo nasce il footvolley brasiliano

@@alessandrosozzi2447 Calcio fiorentino is an example.

Ever heard of the greeks? They were older and closer to “london” than the han dynasty. Know the roman empire? Yeah they founded london. Maybe broaden your horizon a little.

Bullshit. English contact with China was negiligible up until the 17th century by which point Cuju was almost extinct. English mob football on the other hand developed amongst peasants and had been played since at least the 12th century.

lmao ancient games of kicking a ball already existed in ancient times in Europe 😂. Cuju is nothing like football but chienese love stealing everything

Saying China invented football because they played a game in which a ball was kicked, is like saying the first caveman to throw an egg invented Rugby and American Football. Cuju is nothing like football exept a ball is kicked: in cuju unlike football the ball cannot touch the ground, the opposing teams don't interact and there are no goals just a single hole where the ball has to be passed throught like in volleyball. And there were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe, no one copied cuju from the chinese

do you have the brain damage?

Cuju is China origin and football is England irgin

Saying China invented football because they played a game in which a ball was kicked, is like saying the first caveman to throw an egg invented Rugby and American Football. Cuju is nothing like football exept a ball is kicked: in cuju unlike football the ball cannot touch the ground, the opposing teams don't interact and there are no goals just a single hole where the ball has to be passed throught like in volleyball. And there were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe, no one copied cuju from the chinese

Foot-ball. Not football

Shaolin soccer

No it's the predecessor of football. They don't say if it's linked to martial arts but seem to imply it.

There's definitely no link between the pyramids as the cultures lived separately. But China's been spreading its culture to Eurasia and Africa since forever, so you definitely can't discard a link just by citing very unrelated examples.

​​@@sinekonataSaying China invented football because they played a game in which a ball was kicked, is like saying the first caveman to throw an egg invented Rugby and American Football. There were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe.

@@okpo2596 > There were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe That's my point, you don't know if those European versions don't find root in China like the billion of other things that we adopted from them. In fact almost everything we have in Europe either comes from West Asia, aka the fertile crescent, China, or India. Denying that requires such bad faith that I'd straight out call it white supremacy.

Yup, they don't seem very interested in playing it and as an Argentinian, I really don't understand why :D

Saying China invented football because they played a game in which a ball was kicked, is like saying the first caveman to throw an egg invented Rugby and American Football. Cuju is nothing like football exept a ball is kicked: in cuju unlike football the ball cannot touch the ground, the opposing teams don't interact and there are no goals just a single hole where the ball has to be passed throught like in volleyball. And there were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe, no one copied cuju from the chinese 🥱

@@okpo2596 > And there were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe, no one copied cuju from the chinese Yeah you don't know that. You 100% don't know if those European versions don't find root in China like the billion of other things that we adopted from them. In fact almost everything we have in Europe either comes from West Asia, aka the fertile crescent, China, or India. Denying that requires such bad faith that I'd straight out call it white supremacy.

Football is to soccer as dog is to poodle or car is to Ferrari. There's a team in England called Harlequin Football Club. They're a football club, and they play professional rugby.

Kickball

@@adamclark1972uk A better analogy would be "football is to soccer as rectangle is to square". When someone says "this is a rectangle", you better bet most of your money that the figure they refer to is NOT equilateral. All you have to do is ignore the nerds who call a square a rectangle and everything is fine.

nope. Like england took ping pong and "invented" tennis?

@@almlin nope you're wrong I win bye bye

England invented drunk racists

@@abdurrahim7539 you wish karen

@@matts6816 i need to learn better English im not karen im karen smasher

怎麼了 難道英國製造嗎 啊哈哈英國不是最會偷了嗎 啊哈哈哈哈

Yes, Europeans went through great lengths to get to China not the other way around. To the point where there was and is great trade imbalance.....in the past and today. That's why England still drinks tea with porcelain tea cups.

​​@@mdiesel23Saying China invented football because they played a game in which a ball was kicked, is like saying the first caveman to throw an egg invented Rugby and American Football. Cuju is nothing like football exept a ball is kicked: in cuju unlike football the ball cannot touch the ground, the opposing teams don't interact and there are no goals just a single hole where the ball has to be passed throught like in volleyball. And there were already ancient versions of games about kicking a ball in europe, no one copied cuju from the chinese 😂

​@@mdiesel23Most technology chinese utilize today was invented in the west. The world would be fine without tea and porcelain but it wouldn't surivive a single day without western medicine, electricity & technology

@@okpo2596 No, alot of things the West had was built on top of things from the East. This includes things like the Islamic Golden Age. Things like Algebra and Arabic numbers. The scientific method. The Europeans wouldn't have been able to colonize the world without gun power. The first gun, rockets, and explosives were invented in China. How would European explorers circumnavigate without a compass? They got that from the Chinese. The current way to make paper is from the Chinese. Although there were many form of 2d ways to write on, the way the Chinese made paper is easier to mass produce out of a wider range of materials. The Greeks gained alot from the Ancient Egyptians as well. It's certainly true that many modern advancements are attributed to Europeans, reality is the advancements and dissemination of technology isn't purely from Europeans.

No one said it did,the English invented modern football...but the game has it's origins in China

@@NubiansNapata I agree

okay, first of all cuju has its origin in china. but kicking a circular object has its origin in literally every fooking country. the origin of futbol/soccer, the game that we know it as now in the modern world has its origin in britain.

England modernised the game and put the rules in place. China are the original inventors of the game.

@@glyphsuritos6588 We can assume that "kicking a circular object" was at least invented twice since the Americans also played it before Europeans colonised the continent, but there's a good chance that a game that was recorded in antiquity simply spread outwards to Europe, like most things, rather than being re-invented there independently. Remember that many things, even as simple as the wheel, were invented only once by humans. So your assumption sounds as bold as it sounds chauvinistic.