no, 13 !

lyndonlondon Take a look at a Stone Horse great little sail

Not offshore no way

8 years later and I have actually bought an Iain Oughtred Ness. I told you that you had got me thinking...

One of those boat designs by Iain Oughtred, such as this Ness Yawl, or the Alaska or Myst by Don Kurylko, seem to be perfect for that. I might venture up to the northwest one day myself.

Very good! 😅😅😅😅

oh yes, good point !!

The one big invasion of England (1066) involved the Normans waiting in their camp nearly 2 months for the right weather so they could make the crossing. The actual crossing probably took a long day. Their ships were bigger than this one, and heavier, and a bit slower. Landing and disembarking would have been a slow process too. Throughout the 100 years war (1337 - 1453) the English landed troops in France many times, and it would have taken a similar length of time to get there.

Yes, they should have PFTs. But a balanced lug is very easy to reef. They have at least two sets of reefing points on the main.

Any two masted boat, for and aft rigged, with the forward mast carrying the main sail, and the rear (mizzen) mast carrying only a small sail. On a yawl, the mizzen mast is positioned a long way back. The main purpose of the mizzen sail is to give a balanced sail area to aid steering, rather than to provide power. The yawl was developed as a working rig because it can use short timber spars, it leaves a lot of deck space free, and it is easy for one or two people to control the sails because the total sail area is divided into several parts. As the sail are area is carried fairly low down (compared to a modern dinghy) the yawl heels less in a side wind. Modern racing dinghies usually have tall masts with stays and carry a small number of large tall sails: faster, but more complex, more costly, and the crew needs to lean out a lot to balance the boat.

a yawl is a seamans term for walking when drunk but trying to act sober

Don't be afraid to ask, the only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask. Besides, boaties love to pontificate, for example: By definition a yawl is a 2 masted vessel where the mizzen mast is significantly smaller than the main and mounted aft of the rudder post, a ketch is a 2 masted vessel where the mizzen mast is somewhat smaller than the main and mounted forward of the rudder post. The next question is this then really a yawl?There is some argument however that the location of the mast is more for racing rule purposes where a precise answer is needed to this question!So now you can pontificate next time!

@@JoeBlack-co7is The "aft of the rudder post" rule is not an absolute part of the definition. I believe that came from a time when overhanging sterns were popular and the rudder was therefore mounted some way forward from the stern. If the rule were to be applied literally, there could never be a yawl with a transom-mounted rudder, and that is clearly not the case. A safer definition might be that in a yawl, the mizzen sail significantly overhangs the stern. The relative sizes of the main and mizzen sails and the primary function of the mizzen are important aspects of when a ketch becomes a yawl, or vice versa. Ketch: mizzen mast stepped further forward, larger mizzen sail primarily for driving the boat; yawl, mizzen mast stepped further aft, smaller mizzen sail mainly for balancing and steering the boat. A ketch divides its sail area between two masts for ease of handling; a yawl has an extra small sail for helping the boat to point the right way. No doubt there are some individual examples where people would argue, but in most cases, it's obvious at a glance.

@@mikefule330 i would argue that,,,i thought the definition was more,,,(or should be) "aft of the steering position" most(?) ketches having the mizzen f'ward of the helm ,,but i am a argumentative bastard,, (-: haha i agree with you,,i just thought that small difference may help in the defining,,,