to everyone who has said this is a bad take, or something that you cannot agree with, that is your opinion and I'm more than valid to have my own. its beyond toxic to only blame one person for a failed relationship and seeing some of the comments are super disappointing, especially because its so easy to see Shayne's flaws but not Natalie's. Just because he operates a certain way, pigeon holing his behavior whilst allowing her to roam freely is why I hesitate to make these videos at times. As I said this is my opinion, and my channel and its really sad that i cannot point issues out with both people just because the majority only want one person to be the bad guy, which just isn't the case.

A lot of people seem to be missing that in the wrong name debacle, Shayne said, "Shaina? That's who I wanted it to be," and THAT is the biggest issue. It adds a completely different layer of why it was hurtful to Natalie, even if he hypothetically said that to Shaina just to be flirtatious to her.

I feel like Shayne is the kind of guy who stays awake for four days straight, and wakes his roommate/parents up by punching them at 3:30 AM to ask where the AAA batteries are

Shane changing his sitting position, everytime the camera cuts to him, was the highlight of the season. I was genuinely laughing out loud. I am glad you mentioned it. Also, I'd say ShainA was probably the most _obvious_ toxic one in the show; like, not to shlt on her too much, but it just felt like everything she said had me side-eyeing her, suspicious.

The one true good take: Love is Blind is inherently toxic and therefore manipulates real people into being the worst versions of themselves for our entertainment then abandoned to live with the consequences.

I think Natalie had the right to be angry, and I don’t think she was bad for expecting Shane to be focused on her, because he ALREADY was telling Natalie that she was going to be his girlfriend and his number one. Without ever saying he was exploring his options. Basically, from what he was saying to both of these ladies, he expected them to only be committed to him while he explored his options without transparency. I feel like I’m the only one who thinks Shane is genuinely worse than Shake.

Shane is like the younger brother of Chad. He thinks he’s cool but he only gets dates because women pity him.

Natalie had every right to be hurt. It's not like she handled it in a bad way, she was just hurt. Nothing toxic about that. Shane on the other hand gaslit the shit out of her.

I want a recording of Shane’s psychotic laugh so I can play it in the woods at night around campers. 😂😂😂

I’m an introvert and I think after an encounter with Shane, it would drain my social battery. He has such an explosive personality. I like him but could only take him in tiny doses 😂

I feel like the scene where he calls her Shayna you got something wrong. Natalie was going about that as well as she could- she said she felt led on because she was feeling this connection, and was disappointed to hear that someone else was who he wanted to hear from. She didn't say "you led me on," she said "I feel led on." She's being completely open about her feelings instead of bottling them up in regards to all this. Plus, he said he was *hoping* it was Shayna, which would absolutely make her feel led on if he was specifically looking forward to someone else over her and didn't mention that.

I'm not a psychologist, but it almost looks as if Shane may have untreated ADHD. His behavior reminds of a toddler I used to babysit who has the disorder.

Shayne is an energy vampire. If I meet any person like him, I'd be drained in minutes. I got a sense for these by now though and I usually give them all a wide berth... Not on my watch.

I don’t really understand criticizing Nat for moving to fast on a reality dating show where you get married in four weeks 🤷🏻‍♀️

I am convinced that Shayne is high on uppers 24/7. No one with a level head makes jim carey level faces.

I dont think any of them are actually toxic, I think they're emotionally immature. Shane probably never had much options so the fact that he clicked with two people at the nearly same time was overwhelming and he was over the moon. Being immature he can't vocalise what he is feeling and thinking cause that requires abilities that he apparently doesn't have, like self awareness. Thats not toxic, that's just lack of development. And Natalie is a sweetheart, also like a child, she saw one opportunity and she hooked on it without taking the time to consider things out. but maybe those things are only visible to us outside, it would probably be different in there. Like Natalie was talking a lot but Shaina didn't say anything, so Natalie never really knew how mixed up Shane is.

Shayne is 100% disturbed. Him getting so mad at the baseball game was really weird. He’s got anger issues and Natalie did the right thing by saying no. I could see him being abusive later on. Natalie has her own issues too. She has very high expectations and wants her partner to change a lot for her. She doesn’t feel accepted by her parents which obviously plays into her insecurities.

Natalie has said on social media that she had told Shayne she was going to say "no" at the wedding. Shane's erratic behavior makes more sense knowing that fact.

Shane and Shaina are definitely the type of relationship that would last less than half a year cos they only wanna be together for superficial reasons -- sexual compatibility, physical appearances, having fun, etc. Even if he did pick Shaina in the end, I don't know how a marriage between them would even work. They'd get divorced after six months for sure.

Leo, you forget to mention by putting Natalie of the cover of his notebook that means no men will be interested in her. He basically marked her as his, I think he he led Natalie on to believe she was the only one he was interested in. He also brings up that Natalie is his number one.. He basically love bombed her.

he's like a real life cartoon character. like the exaggerated high school jock character in a letterman jacket

Props to Leo for printing those pics in public

I think Natalie was completely justified being upset when Shane thought she was Shaina. Last we saw, he'd just asked Nat to be his gf (sounds pretty serious/borderline exclusive to me) and when he guessed it was Shaina, he was all like "oh, I was so hoping it was you, just the person I wanted to see" to the person he thought was not his gf. I'd be upset too. Also, "I think Natalie is just as bad"? Sorry what? I love you dude, but awful take. GF implies at the very least honesty between them, he wasn't honest and was gaslighting her on top of it all

Shaine is the kind of guy that cant handle any drama or arguments and walks away. The way hes squirming around the floor while talking tells me that he just avoids uncomfortable situations alltogether

I personally don´t think Natalie did anything wrong in the pods. She didn´t freak out and even said that there was nothing wrong with exploring other connections. Shayne however told her she was his number 1 from the get go, talked with her about marriage and moving in together, so she felt like they were on the same paige regarding these things. Hearing "Shaina, you´re just who I wanted to talk to, what are you wearing?" was just really hurtful. Plus she was just processing the situation and being quiet. Dr. Kirk Honda who runs the channel "Psychology in Seattle" has some really interesting thoughts on the couple, too. Everyone can have their own opinion of course, I just don´t believe it´s fair to call Natalie out for being really toxic since she has not shown many signs of toxicity.🤔😅

The reason Shayne was being so weird and agitated during the wedding was that apparently Natalie told him beforehand that she was going to say no and he still said yes either hoping or trying to manipulate her into saying yes as well. I don't know, it's hard to read what is really going on in this show because it is so heavily edited I don't really trust a lot of what people are saying.

Shane is a very shallow and honestly weak minded person. If he doesn't get constant affirmation that he is perfect in every way he just stops being able to function. To use my own relationship as a reference my girlfriend can walk in the room and tell my my forehead is the size of a Heathrow runway And I laugh because I love her to bits and I don't need her to constantly say she loves me to know she does, I trust her and feel secure.

shane's looping laughter throughout this video had me fearing i was going to wake up my roommates with my own hysterical (albeit, less disturbed) laughter

I agree with “they’re not toxic people but together they show toxic tendencies.” Because same lol. I’ve experienced a relationship that bring out that side of me and him, which I do not approve the behaviors, but in the moment you don’t realize the harm you’re doing until it’s too late. I appreciate your take on this. I already came to terms with so much in my equally harmful relationship but hearing what you had to say about the behavior really helped put into perspective of why/how they’re harmful. Also, my favorite take away from today is, everyone loves differently and that’s okay! Sometimes you can’t make it work because of this, so don’t force it to work

I have a horrifyingly loud and obnoxious laugh. After hearing shayne, I totally understand why that might be a deal breaker.

I can count the times where Shane blinks on one hand are we entirely sure he’s human??

Leo, like i get it, you don't wanna judge people. However, the way Shane behaves, like saying these hurtful things and then expects to be forgiven (and tries ro gaslight the ladies when they bring up legit concerns) is definitely toxic, and someone who is not ready to share his life with anyone. Even before they had a relationship. I think it's important to awknowledge that, cause i wouldnt want vulnerable people to ever think it's fine to enter a relationship with a person like that. That's gonna leave Them damaged and doubting their own worth

These two weren't a good match for each other. I feel a lot of the arguments in the beginning could have been avoided or resolved with just establishing boundaries and communication, BUT Shayne telling his fiancé she's the worst thing to ever happen to him, is extremely serious and hurtful for most people- if not an absolute deal breaker.

Tbh I hate Shaina. It just seemed like she was hoping Shayne would leave Natalie for her despite her waiting too long to confess

I love Leo, I just think he had some real bad takes on the situation. I think that Natalie's reaction to being called Shaina was justified, before that Shane said she was his number one. He said that before she said he was her number one too, and to have he said "just the person I wanted to see" and then the entire time she was silent just to go from an embarrassed I'm sorry to aggressive defensive is ridiculous. That is a true toxic trait not falling for someone quickly on a tv show where you get a few weeks to get married, honestly, Shane comes across as this goofy sweet golden-doodle of a guy he's very disarming. Shane's language at that moment felt like "it's your fault that you're upset, you're really just trying to hurt me" that is a true toxic trait. Natalie at the alter said he made her feel scared, which is very important to include.

He seems like the kind of guy to commit a crime of passion, just the way his energy looks like he’ll explode at some given moment

Unpopular opinion: I think if you start talking to someone with the intention of dating/marrying you shouldn’t talk to other girls/guys anymore. And to call this mindset toxic just shows me that people don’t wanna take their time to get to know people one by one but just try everyone out (if that makes sense). This dating culture is toxic in my eyes but yeah… you do you I guess

Hope you're enjoying the series. this has nothing to do with anything but i get a lot of people asking about the songs at the end and such. its me actually. Ill link below my spotify. some songs are unreleased, but soon they will be. Thank you for supporting, it honestly means the world to me. open.spotify.com/artist/59ivAkFE09mblTTpRrq77u?si=TK-ijMgRRWOo4znhg_05Lg

Gotta say I disagree with you big time on Natalie. There's no way you can compare her to Shayne. Also the show forces you to rush, its what they all go in there expecting, so a course she fell fast. I also understand what she means when she felt Shayne was yelling at her. He was getting aggressive and for someone more calm like her, it would come off as yelling. She even says after she turns him down at the alter that he didn't make her feel safe like her dad does. So really she's kind of like Deepti, where she knows what she does and does not deserve from a man.

Shayne's the kind of guy whose friends have to constantly explain "no he doesn't have a meth habit, he's not going through psychosis right now, that's just how he is."

She did the right thing by walking away, what he said was abusive and you can't take that shit back and she knows he's just going to keep saying things like that

Shayne is basically Matthew Mcconaughey if you dialed up the dude bro energy, tripled the douchbaggery, completely removed the talent, and crossed him with a clueless golden retriever that had an annoying laugh.

I’m super disappointed you don’t point out how manipulative he was and how much he gaslighted Natalie. Shane also has huge red flags when it comes to anger and violence. This is one video I just can’t agree with.

One thing I think with Natalie, is that I don't think she expects a partner not to make mistakes at all: I think there are more reasonable and less reasonable mistakes to make in a relationship. A reasonable mistake is maybe picking out a food that your partner doesn't like, especially when you don't know each other that well. Making emotionally immature mistakes becomes less reasonable at a certain age. You don't tell someone something as dramatic as you hate them and they're the worst thing that happened to them within a month of meeting. If he thinks he should just be able to apologize for something that dramatic and potentially hurtful, then what is he willing to say to her in 6 months? in 2 years? He's going to keep losing his temper frequently because he has poor tolerance of things not going his way. Additionally, there's nothing wrong with positive affirmations, but he seems to want them so frequently that he comes off as needy, self-absorbed, and dare I say it, narcissistic.

44:38 I disagree, tbh. Natalie had that one over exaggeration when she said he was "raising his voice". Maybe she just meant that his tone was different, like he sounded more upset. People confuse those things. Also, her only true flaw in this was just being a hopeless romantic and falling in love too quickly, imo. She was justified in being upset when she assumed she was Shayne's only love interest. She didn't say he couldn't see other people, she was just upset. Which is valid. And Shayne saying that horrible stuff to her before her wedding definitely puts him in a worse place morally than her.

Coming back from a really busy day at work and seeing Leo upload is the best feeling EVER!

As one of the 3 people who likes Natalie, I feel like it's not fair to blame her for falling too hard to fast because literally everyone does it and it's low-key the point of the pods 😭 She just needs to work on her decision making skills bc I could've told her Shane was a horrible decision LONG before the finale

16:23 i aslo feel like shes maybe also pissed because he thought she was a different girl an then proceded to say "ah thats who i was hoping for" and you dont need to be commited to someone for something like that to really hurt, esspecially if you and them have expressed you're interested in eachother

He's giving off "Homelander (Without Powers)" Vibes

Natlie's love language is insults which I understand but not everyone does nor appreciates that. To me she should of been consider that Shayn definitely isn't like that. But one of my gripes with Shayn is that he needs constant validation. My father is in some ways like that and its tiring as hell. Both of them if they worked on those things separately might have been better together.

the random Shane laughs throughout this video were * Chef's kiss * also, the pictures of all Shane's crazy faces was genius! PLEASEEEE make that part of your background for a few more videos - it's high art - literally

He literally ruined the relationship by being soooo insecure that he needed constant reassurance. Then he blamed HER for feeling like he wasn't good enough. He needs therapy. Hes a good guy, but he needs to be more secure in himself

My personal experience when you're blinded by your love for someone else you're in a toxic situation! Don't blindly fall in love, walk into it with your eyes wide open!!

The only problem Nat really had was communicating her love and affection to her partner

You need watch Love is Blind:Japan. It’s a world of a difference, all of the contestants on that show are much more mature, self aware, ready to find themselves, and get married. It’s not focused on the hardcore sexual aspect the American version keeps pushing…AND the drama is much less. PLUS, the men are way more respectful to the women…no ass grabbing on the first meet, they bow to each other….the culture is so different…

Glad to hear other people share my love language of hating on someone to show affection. Some people weren't brought up with the typical gushy parents and it can be hard to expect someone to change their way of communication. That being said, I think it's selfish to go into a show about forming a lifelong connection when you need to work on yourself first. Shayne needs constant validation to keep his ego, which is tiring for any partner, even if words of affirmation is their preferred communication choice. Natalie should have came in more sure of herself before looking for love. She allowed a stronger, louder personality to often diminish her say in things and she took the brunt of most of Shayne's tantrums. She should've walked away at the first encounter when Shayne said he was leaving rather than communicating like an adult. But, finding love is a learning process that leads to you finding yourself. I hope the two grew from the experience. All the relationships on the show this season were pretty toxic. I hope you talk about Danielle and Nick soon. Those two were a serious mess 🙃🙃

If it was an issue where Natalie read too much into her interactions with Shane than yeah, but it's not really a bad thing to be mad when a guy already calls you He's number one and tells you that he's going to choose you to be his girlfriend, she had every right to be upset. And that we're turn around. "Why are you mad? You're my number one."

That laugh, yo. I know we can’t help our laughs, but holy hell 😂

I feel like I’ve yet to see anyone mention how when Shane mistakes Natalie for Shaina, he says “I was hoping it was you.” Like sorry??? I think that’s the worst part if he’s been telling Natalie that she’s his #1 but was hoping you were the other girl.

The only thing I disagree with is making fun of his laugh. We shouldn’t make fun of people for being happy just because it doesn’t sound conventional. He can’t control it, and if he does it makes it really sad that he has to filter and focus on his laugh rather than just being in the moment.

I don’t “believe” in spanking children. BUT spanking adults for reasons other than “funky time”? Yes. He proves my point 😌

Whew, bullet missed. That dude is a trauma creator who's missed his chance to unite with a perfectionist & recreate my former toxic marriage, lol. This was heavy & overflowin in big baby juice and healthy relationship advice, thank you SixteenLeo, this was a good watch! ♡ I agree with ya, man. Looking good, too, man!

Natalie got a really weird edit and Shane misunderstood her so often. She was clearly head over heels for him, but she expressed it in more of a flirty, push and pull kind of way. And she seemed really reluctant to express affection in front of the cameras. All of that is totally understandable! But Shane seemed to expect Natalie to fawn over him, and do it publicly. He probably is used to that given the type of fratty guy he maybe used to be. Their styles were very different and they could have grown to understand that about each other, but the time and pressure made it impossible.

I feel like love is blind proves that people can’t build an emotional connection without physical attraction because most of the people who stay together in the show happened to be attracted to each other AS WELL as liking each other in the pods.

Also the person who put his veneers in did him DIRTY!!! Those teeth are WAY too big and also why do they point outward??? He paid so much money for yee yee teeth

Shane's laugh is what you hear before entering the gates of hell.....

The “what are you wearing over there?” Interjections are killing me

Shane is a real estate agent who doesn’t like looking at excel sheets?? Bruh that’s like, a big part of the job.

Obviously, you are entitled to your own opinion, however that doesn’t mean that this ISNT a bad take of their relationship. Listen, some of the things Natalie did could be portrayed as questionable, or iffy, BUT TO STRETCH it and to call her toxic like she’s on the same toxicity level as Shane is pushing it.

I don't agree with you about Natalie, for the most part. I'm much more on her side than you are, personally. I do have to agree with one of your points about her, though. When she said Shane was raising his voice, and he wasn't. I've been there, when I'm trying to explain my feelings about whatever, I get accused of yelling sometimes. Even when I am making a conscious effort to speak softly. I admit I am autistic, and maybe there's some sort of social cue I'm missing, or something I'm failing to perceive, but it's something that frustrates me. Other than that, though, I'm much more on her side here. I enjoyed hearing what you had to say though and it gave me a lot to think about. I'd love to see what you have to say about the reunion!

i think her saying "raised his voice" is more like "his tone was a lot more aggressive compared to his happy jovial tone he usually holds"

I’m so grateful that I’m happily married. Granted it’s my second (much happier) marriage. However, if I had to start dating again I see shit like this. I would just stay single and hold stock in personal massagers.

I feel like you’re being a little too harsh on Natalie, calling her toxic. I feel like it’s fair to maybe call her a little naive but I feel like her reaction to Shayne mistaking her for someone else is justified because Shayne told her from the beginning that she was his number 1 and that she should concentrate on just him, so she probably didn’t even expect that Shayne was even actively talking to someone else as much as they did. Considering this I completely understand that she would feel shocked and sad in that situation. Most importantly how he reacted when it happened was just incredibly scary and off. His reaction was completely uncalled for and manipulative.

If anyone's wondering where they've seen Shayne's crazy eyes before - it's on Gary Busey. This man is a clone of Gary Busey

Every loop of Shane's laugh in the background fucking kills me 😂

I'm just gonna say, that's a good mom, I can tell a good mom when I see one. Only best mom material gives a slap automatically XD

I think the blind part of the dating actually helps Shayne.. he has those crazy *lights on, nobodys home* look in his eyes. Combined with his creepy laugh, I think from first impressions girls would run and hide after looking into those eyes and having a laugh together.. I'm a dude and he creeps me tf out. Mix those features with the weird ass "so what you wearing over there?" Evesham creepy.

every time shayne’s laugh gets edited in i lose it LMAO

Leo I love how you see both sides and that's why I prefer your channel soo much. Keep doing it!!

I REALLY disagree with making the decision at the alter...I mean I get it, for the dramatic effect. But I'm not about to bother my family and friends to come to a wedding that I'm about to end in a "No, I'm sorry."

You should watch the episode about Shane from the youtuber Observe. This man is an abuser and people should be really concerned about his behavior.

I think they should make a reality show about Leo's trip to the store to get those pictures printed out

“That’s Shane and that’s his real laugh “ I’m dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This episode made me audibly laugh. Shane’s joker laugh throughout and the editing… dude, this was awesome haha

Bro I'm a fairly new subscriber, probably like 6 months now, but I never catch your videos to leave a comment high enough up. I just want to say man you're funny I love your channel, but beside that your intelligent and articulate. I love the way you respond to the vegan gains videos. That was hilarious. You have such a great outlook on life and such a cool way of approaching things. Keep it up

Does anyone else get raging cokehead vibes from Shane or is that just me?

i have trigeminal neuralgia and had the worst attack ever yesterday. i feel asleep listening to this video. it really helped me distract from the pain. so thanks! ❤ it was very relaxing somehow. im rewatching now cuz i felt asleep trough half of it 🙊

I have a ton of friends with goofy laughs. Hearing Shaynes laugh actually makes me feel nostalgic and happy. But everything he says is just.....

Yeah, I don't think natalie deserves quite so much criticism. But yeah, clearly the two aren't a good match

Shane dresses, from head to toe, in clothes that are at least four sizes too small. The attraction between Shane and Shana, is all ego. They are the same person, in separate bodies.

Normally I dont get into others relationships but for both of their sakes I'm so glad they didnt get married.

Yeah this is the first one of your videos I've thought was a really bad take, honestly. She isn't "just as bad". He DID lead her on, and she had every right to call him out on that. There's this weird culture of "you aren't allowed to be sad that I'm flirting with other girls just because you're not officially my girlfriend" and that's B.S.. Being sad and feeling let down and expressing that is NOT toxic.

Shane has what my mum calls “bug eyes”

I’m having some 3rd trimester pregnancy insomnia tonight, so I am SO grateful you just posted this video! Thanks for the laughs.

I'm a positive affirmation person too and I'll say, aslong as a chick says "i love you" without me saying it first, or "you look handsome today" or "i miss you" etc. I'm happy as can be. I dont prod them into doing it though, maybe hint a little sometimes but alot of relationships i've been in have lacked that kind of verbal communication. Makes you feel like you're not the best choice or as if you're doing something wrong at times. But Shayne is HUGELY OVERKILL with it.

I normally never comment. But I just wanted to say that I listen to your videos almost on a daily basis because they help me with my anxiety for whatever reason. And I wanted to thank you for your time and effort that you put into your videos. I really appreciate you and you seem like a really genuine guy

"Cocaine is a hellva drug."... Shane's face. Love you Leo 💖

You can see his faces go from happy crackhead, to concerned crackhead to defeated crackhead. Your effort is beautifully appreciated Leo ❤

That laugh is contagious 😂🤣

I couldn't stop laughing the whole time🤣. Shane (and his laugh) will forever haunt me