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Man Washes Car: Gets Charged w/Felonies

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Steve Lehto

Steve Lehto

Күн бұрын

Turns out it was mistaken - and stolen - identity.
www.lehtoslaw.com

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@ranjaxwolf9725
@ranjaxwolf9725 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecutors MUST be held liable for at least legal fees in cases like this
@Unloadonyou
@Unloadonyou 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this is that prosecutors would then have incentive to double-down on bad cases simply because they don't want to cost their department any money. A lot of prosecutors want wins more so than justice, so they will still go after bad or shotty cases against innocent people hoping for a win but then not relenting on obvious case facts proving innocence in order to not lose AND cover the defendant's lawyer costs.
@LoneTiger
@LoneTiger 3 жыл бұрын
@ranjaxwolf Oh They will be held liable when the lawsuit goes through, attorney fees + damages + expunge records. This is how you get rid of incompetent prosecutors, one lawsuit at a time.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@joechang8696
@joechang8696 3 жыл бұрын
a prosecutor that incompetent should be disbarred as too stupid to practice law
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 3 жыл бұрын
So, do DA's look at stuff like this as a big joke at dinner parties? I'm 54. I've never been arrested, but I would hate to be arrested due to general laziness and stupidity?
@gregt722
@gregt722 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a retired police officer. This is absolutely a shoddy investigation. The video is enough to raise suspicion, but not reasonable suspicion, and certainly not enough for an arrest. There are way to many variables which simply ooze reasonable doubt. Police would have the authority to ask questions, but they never contacted him. This reminds me of the man arrested for possession of Meth because police found powdered sugar in the car. A false positive got him arrested, his car impounded, and he spent 30 days in jail until Lab results confirmed it was sugar. The man lost his job and his car was sold at auction because he couldn’t pay the impound fees. So much for presumption of innocence.
@jadesluv
@jadesluv 2 жыл бұрын
Greg T: what monetary recourse does the man have? City should be libel to pay for car storage.
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 2 жыл бұрын
Greg, your reply is valuable, we seldom get to hear the professional speak against unreasonable acts by officials, and they happen ever more often than they did decades ago.
@MP197742
@MP197742 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcclain3887 Or, they absolutely happened decades ago, and you just didn’t hear about it.
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 Жыл бұрын
Pigs are all da same like my boy said icecube will swarm on any MF in da blue uniform
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 Жыл бұрын
Those circumstances would have me hiding in the officer's bushes at night.
@nispelsm
@nispelsm 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in my first year of college, I was arrested for multiple felonies, after having been identified as the suspect by an officer based solely on the T-shirt i was wearing. Nevermind the warrant issued had the suspect's name, height, weight and MUG SHOT on file. The real suspect was 8" taller than me and nearly double my weight, but the arresting officer insisted right up to the last minute that he was sure I was the guy they were looking for, even attempting to add forgery to the list of charges after claiming both of my government-issued IDs were fake. I was eventually released after an extensive background check, and without so much as an apology.
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 10 ай бұрын
That's false arrest, you should have sued.
@rex8255
@rex8255 10 ай бұрын
I spent the entire not in jail one time for a no-bail warrant. That didn't exist. They just cut me loose at like 6:00am , 10 miles from my house. Went to the Sherrif office and verified... no warrant for anything. No apologies, no offer of a ride home.
@holarndius
@holarndius 10 ай бұрын
The police are not your friends, i hope you learned that. They only do three things, Beat, rob and cage anyone without a badge. They actually support the bad cops regularly.
@dirtfarmer7070
@dirtfarmer7070 8 ай бұрын
Lucky you are alive....be thankful.
@DecrepitBiden
@DecrepitBiden 8 ай бұрын
@@rex8255 They release you after a certain time for many reasons. Sometimes the current shift don't want to do the paperwork, & just pass it on to the next shift. Each county get paid $300-500 per inmate per day by the government, so do the math. It has become a cash cow, instead of serving the law. So they purposely keep you for a few extra hours so they could collect their pay.
@dougjones9493
@dougjones9493 3 жыл бұрын
A case of the police not wanting to do their job but get paid.
@rodh1404
@rodh1404 3 жыл бұрын
Police AND prosecutor. I guess one could say these are very busy people, but it certainly makes you wonder just when due process is supposed to kick in.
@RhizometricReality
@RhizometricReality 3 жыл бұрын
All police in the legal system exists as a form of coercive economic and material violence against the individual.
@phlodel
@phlodel 3 жыл бұрын
Their job is to make arrests and prosecute. Guilt or innocence is irrelevant.
@cliffordbodine5834
@cliffordbodine5834 3 жыл бұрын
We have a lot of that here in New Jersey. Call the police to have them come to your house and make excuses why they can't investigate, or take down information only to never get back to you. Highest property taxes in the nation and the police are riding the gravy train.
@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou
@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou 3 жыл бұрын
Charging someone with a felony by mail is just lazy. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLiRnqSmrbfLpaM.html An early morning no-knock raid at least makes it appear like they are taking the job seriously. This is too fishy all around, but I guess, that's why it made the news.
@tayzonday
@tayzonday 3 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t police departments and district attorney offices ever sacked after these obnoxious demonstrations of malicious incompetence? It’s like citizens need a standing grand jury or ombudsman committee outside of elected government with the power to fire en-masse. This is strange because elected government is supposed to be this advocate.
@Richard-Freeman
@Richard-Freeman 3 жыл бұрын
I see your comments in some of the most interesting places. How've you been doing man? Hope all is well.
@ai_university
@ai_university 3 жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain guy out here spitting facts. More accountability and repercussions are needed.
@stopcreepingyouweirdo
@stopcreepingyouweirdo 3 жыл бұрын
It's called "qualified immunity," it means it's nearly impossible to charge prosecutors or law enforcement for mistakes made while trying to do their job. It means we are expected to bear the costs of their mistakes, and it's unjust.
@ai_university
@ai_university 3 жыл бұрын
@ HIS NAME WAS MARVIN HEEMEYER
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 3 жыл бұрын
@@stopcreepingyouweirdo On the other hand, every single criminal would be suing them to delay their prosecution other wise. If one can show true incompetence or malice, one can usually get permission to sue. But it has to be aggregious.
@Taylorchef
@Taylorchef 2 жыл бұрын
I had the police show up at my place of business & arrest one of my employees. They wouldn't tell him what was up, just took him to jail. I called his parents & their lawyer was burning up the phone lines to the police & county prosecutors office even before he made it to the jail. It turned out a gas station employee had claimed he drove off without paying for a tank of gas. The police tried to interrogate him before his lawyer got there but the lawyers office shut them down before he got there. He got him out on bail in less than an hour. The next day they went to the prosecutors office & got the whole scoop on what had been claimed & it turned out the gas station clerk claimed he stole the gas on a day & time he'd been in class at college. Needless to say, the prosecutor dropped the charges with warp speed. The lawyer filed a notice of claim within a few days & the city made an offer just a couple days later. If the police had simply knocked on his door & interviewed him they would have cleared it up without an arrest. In this case the small town police department handled it correctly & fired the lead "investigator" & suspended his supervisor for a month. The city paid all legal fees & gave the kid enough to pay the last years tuition for his college classes.
@bryancondrey6457
@bryancondrey6457 9 ай бұрын
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS.
@deborahaumiller7391
@deborahaumiller7391 3 ай бұрын
Nice to hear someone got that situation as corrected as it could be.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 2 ай бұрын
Wow ,doing it correctly , Nice for a change.
@user-hy7sf9xx3z
@user-hy7sf9xx3z 26 күн бұрын
Lucky or had a good at torneys
@andrewvelonis5940
@andrewvelonis5940 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who happened to have the same name as a felon. He got pulled over and was smart enough to say "check the date of birth on the driver's license". It was a close call.
@simonmultiverse6349
@simonmultiverse6349 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I've seen stories about this happening in airports, etc. The idiot droids at the airport could have checked all sorts of other information, e.g. height, scars, eye colour, age, place of birth, places where they lived, etc. but they didn't. Lots of innocent people get arrested based on ONLY their name. How many people are there called Steve Lehto? Doh! Doh! What idiots!
@grim1427
@grim1427 3 жыл бұрын
Incompetent prosecutors should be jailed for this.
@postholedigger8726
@postholedigger8726 3 жыл бұрын
Guilt or innocence has nothing to do with their thought process. Prosecutors proceed with their case because THEY THINK THEY CAN GET A CONVICTION. Convictions are how they rate their performance score. They could care less if they send an innocent person to prison or the death chamber. david
@tjsbbi
@tjsbbi 3 жыл бұрын
Its not incompetence. It's a strategy to rack up wins.
@simon6071
@simon6071 3 жыл бұрын
The prosecutor in this case was not only incompetent, he was maliciously apathetic and callous. Definitely should go to jail but we know he won't . Because we have an unjust justice system. If I were the victim, I would only hope Karma will get justice for me.
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think so, unless the intent was to make a false charge. people make mistakes. but they Absolutely should be charged with the defense fees and wasting time for the mistake.
@douglasrodrigues9329
@douglasrodrigues9329 3 жыл бұрын
My feeling about this is if a prosecutor places more emphasis on winning a case, rather than revealing the truth of what actually happened, that prosecutor should be prosecuted for malfeasance under color of law. If it was proven beyond a doubt that the prosecutor knew, or should have known that the accused was actually innocent, but was prosecuted anyway, and the accused spent time in jail or prison, then the prosecutor him or herself should spend an equivalent time in jail or prison and lose their law license! I would refer back to the early times of especially Blacks getting railroaded to guilt with the southern kangaroo type corrupt courts that the democrats in the south were involved in. The two fake "impeachments" of Donald Trump was such an example of how corruption was / is a specialty of the left.
@hollowdog7208
@hollowdog7208 3 жыл бұрын
Scott is a lucky man. SWAT did not show up and kill him and destroy his property. There's that.
@timothyspencer8456
@timothyspencer8456 3 жыл бұрын
Scott is probably white
@NOTHOTlanta
@NOTHOTlanta 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyspencer8456 Idiot comment.
@fatedtolive667
@fatedtolive667 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he wasn't black or poor white.
@sandraherdman3783
@sandraherdman3783 3 жыл бұрын
And shoot the dog
@davidoltmans2725
@davidoltmans2725 2 жыл бұрын
True statement. Too many innocent people are wrongfully targeted, even killed, by police incompetence. There are numerous incidents where the police rolled the wrong address and killed the people who challenged them. I would also add that those of you who are overwhelming supportive of the police, need to understand that in the ranks of the good guys there exist officers who use their badges as license to abuse people. The whole recruitment of police officers should be reviewed to screen out these potential bullies and killers.
@taylorh3930
@taylorh3930 2 жыл бұрын
He should be reimbursed for the $5000 at the minimum.
@Muffinshaker
@Muffinshaker 2 жыл бұрын
“false imprisonment “ and “civil rights violations” ought to to get him a big time award from city / police department.
@TheForgottenProgidy
@TheForgottenProgidy 2 жыл бұрын
More like out of the tax payer
@zacrl1230
@zacrl1230 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheForgottenProgidy So?
@eddiek6390
@eddiek6390 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheForgottenProgidy You mean the tax payers who voted the politicians who let it happen? Yeah, they can pay for it.
@supersteve8305
@supersteve8305 3 жыл бұрын
End qualified immunity for police and prosecutors and this sort of thing will mysteriously end. They will (all of a sudden) care about who they charge for crimes.
@BigLeagueDrew
@BigLeagueDrew 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure there was a judge involved too.
@Geckotan
@Geckotan 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's not ending in Colorado. It's almost like they never ended it. Cops think they are still untouchable.
@jaykoerner
@jaykoerner 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't a qualified immunity thing, technically is judicial immunity and prosecutorial immunity, both of these are forms of sovereign immunity, a inherent immunity supported via case law by the supreme court, I agree that qualified immunity needs to end in its current form, I'm just tired of people that don't understand what qualified immunity is, this isn't qualified immunity this is immunity that exists since the well before we were even a country and derived from English law and to be clear this form of immunity exists in every democracy that I know of, to put it simply judges and prosecutors are protected from suit or criminal action so long no malpractice or misconduct was at play, I do not see any here not that I agree with the actions
@Geckotan
@Geckotan 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaykoerner the malpractice here would be the laziness of the investigation on both the police part and the DA's part. Not getting the full story or even trying to get it would fall under that category. A performance that falls below the professional minimum standard, a dereliction of professional duty or a failure to exercise an ordinary degree of professional skill which results in a loss, injury, or damage. The 5k would be considered a loss would it not? The stress that dude is experiencing is a loss. Besides, the OP was talking about the police, not the DA. The police failed as well thinking it's an easy win for them due to negligent investigating.
@alastorclark3492
@alastorclark3492 3 жыл бұрын
@@Geckotan Start suing in mass
@yoshisaidit7250
@yoshisaidit7250 3 жыл бұрын
NO, The scary part is that prosecutors can charge anyone with anything, with ZERO accountability.
@mrdan2898
@mrdan2898 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's terrifying. And now Police, detectives are allowed to lie in order to obtain evidence. The problem is that sometimes these lies by corrupt law enforcement are entered as facts and innocent lives are destroyed.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 2 жыл бұрын
This is so under rated. It needs more likes. But prosecutors shouldn't be threatened with or be fearful of frivolous suits where they do their job responsibly, but we need legal standards that define their responsibility. And maybe attempting to talk with a suspect before formally filing charges should be a required responsibility. Doing so would give a suspect the opportunity to clear things up with evidence so convincing that a prosecuting attorney would chose not to charge rather than bring charges and later drop charges. This should be required of prosecuting attorneys.
@SamBrickell
@SamBrickell 2 жыл бұрын
And also prosecutors refuse to charge people for certain crimes.
@MP197742
@MP197742 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamBrickell It’s not just certain crimes, but certain people. They want a high conviction rate without a lot of work, so they go after poor people who can’t afford the highest level of legal representation. The rich people lawyers will file motion after motion, drag it out, make it expensive, explore every technicality in the law to try to get them off. Make it an exhausting investment of time and energy for the prosecution.
@wildmanturner
@wildmanturner 2 жыл бұрын
@@MP197742 exactly. This is the elephant in the room that nobody in the system wants to talk about….. why? Because they all benefit from “professional courtesies” at some level. And that in itself is highly unethical
@keres993
@keres993 3 жыл бұрын
There SHOULD be a penalty that prosecutors pay for bringing charges they know or should have known are totally fabricated. Either criminal or, at the very least, civil. This absolute immunity thing just isn’t working out
@chubbysumo2230
@chubbysumo2230 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is just like the prosecutor who wanted to prosecute my cell phone ticket. In Minnesota, using a cell phone with your hands while driving. Therefore I have a hands-free setup. I also have Google Assistant to do more detailed things with my phone. Thankfully, because of what I do, my phone record most of what I do on the phone, including what apps I open, what websites I go to, and what I'm touching. State trooper pulled me over and informed me that he observed me using my phone. I knew that was patently false, and I could prove it. Of course I opened my phone to provide him with the digital insurance card, and in his report he claimed my phone open to a Snapchat like app. The prosecutor then claimed he wanted to take it to trial, he felt he had enough evidence to prove it. The dashboard camera footage did not match his written report, nor did it match his statement to the prosecutor. The prosecutor in bad faith continued this case, because even though I proved to him with the logs from my phone, he still wanted to prosecute it. It cost me $150 in hiring an attorney before he was willing to drop it. He initially refused to even hand over the dashboard camera footage until the judge told him either hand it over or it's getting dismissed. Some prosecutors are absolutely on a power trip, and do not care about who they hurt on the way.
@BrankoRNtheotherBranko
@BrankoRNtheotherBranko 3 жыл бұрын
@@chubbysumo2230 They are in it for the WIN. Don't care who gets hurt.
@Verifiedbyme
@Verifiedbyme 3 жыл бұрын
@@chubbysumo2230 not wanting to burst bubbles but believing the law is for " using your hands " to hold the phone is ridiculous. The law is designed in an attempt to have the driver " PAY ATTENTION " to the road. If your brain was on the phone , YOU were on the phone. and apparently you have the apps to prove it.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Verifiedbyme if that was the case, then handsfree setups and GPS wayfinders would be illegal too, which they arent.
@just_blumpin_off
@just_blumpin_off 3 жыл бұрын
@@Verifiedbyme your point is correct, but the laws are written in a way that involves your hands. The OP was correct by law
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
I know of a case where a guy was charged with disability fraud after stating he had been confined to a wheelchair after a work place accident. The prosecutors presented multiple pictures of the defendant (or someone who looked exactly like the defendant) doing yard work, performing maintenance on the house, including building a wheelchair ramp, and car carrying heavy loads all without the slightest sign of disability. The prosecution believed they had an open and shut case, until the defendant showed up in court with his identical twin brother. But it was ever worse, in one of the pictures the defendant can clearly be seen sitting in a wheelchair on his porch while his brother mowed the grass.
@deborahaumiller7391
@deborahaumiller7391 3 ай бұрын
That last paragraph!!😂😂😂😂ohhh, maaan , the idiocracy factor!!😂😂😂
@tjburr1968
@tjburr1968 2 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened to me, I got charged with something I had nothing to do with 6 months after the made up story allegation occurred. I came home one evening to see a blue summons for an arraignment charging me with a felony left in my storm door. The emotional anguish and money it costs to go to jury trial to be acquitted was beyond painful. This is what I learned: In Massachusetts when one is accused of a felony, they do not get a chance or have a right to a show cause hearing. (Hearing that could possibly prevent you from getting arraigned). 2. The police report (details of the allegation) most cases when filed in court typically do not get looked at by the court until a few mins before you are literally in front of judge being arraigned. Perhaps because of case loads the courts don't have time to screen the cases. Or it's a design to keep business flowing through courts. Perhaps both
@colt45peacemaker
@colt45peacemaker 2 жыл бұрын
$$$$ business
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 10 ай бұрын
Lot's of bureaucrats to feed, paralegals, bondsmen, sheriff's departments, constables, private contractors, then count all the contractors handling all the other stuff, suppliers....... paper companies , printers.
@DecrepitBiden
@DecrepitBiden 8 ай бұрын
Yup, just like the previous 2 commenters have said, $$$$$$. Even the jail system itself is a money making scheme. They don't care who they jail, it matters NOT. They (the county) gets paid $300-500 per inmate per day by the government. So do the math. How do I know this figure? A jail guard at Gwinnett county got fed up with the system & told us inmates about it.
@dave8599
@dave8599 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecutors should be on the hook for false charges.
@gomibako2517
@gomibako2517 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the culture of not naming prosecutors would go away. Courts and newspapers needs to quit being so reluctant to name them.
@peoplenewstoday
@peoplenewstoday 3 жыл бұрын
Cops could investigate? Get statements from accused?
@vancel35
@vancel35 3 жыл бұрын
@phillip miller But a pattern of ignorance can lead to incompetence and removal from the position. So yeah, even ignorance needs to be tracked.
@OTuit
@OTuit 3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years. Law enforcement isn't interested in justice. They are interested in closing cases.
@philthelawnman
@philthelawnman 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they are interested in full jail cells for funding to line their pockets with.
@fuzzybat23
@fuzzybat23 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be law. If you're wrongly accused, the state must reimburse all expenses. Missed pay, legal fees, everything. That'd make them be a little more careful before wasting the court's time and ruining innocent peoples' lives.
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 Жыл бұрын
And also expunge all records. Make the record disappear forever
@WooShell
@WooShell 2 жыл бұрын
The real scary part of this story is, that the US legal system is so broken that this man has no way of recovering his damages unless he invests even more money into a lawsuit against the police. In case of a dismissal, the defendant's legal fees should be completely covered by the state, as it is done in other civilized countries.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 10 ай бұрын
He has other means of recourse but that means breaking the law, bad. If this happened to me, officer friendly would end up in a shipping container in the woods and be given the opportunity to make some wire transfers to save his family’s life. Not his life as you can’t leave witnesses, just his family. The irony. To have justice with our current legal system I’d be forced to take far more than what was taken from me.
@joeambly6807
@joeambly6807 23 күн бұрын
​@@EnthalpyAndEntropyjesus christ get mental help you kwyboard warrior
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 23 күн бұрын
@@joeambly6807 my mind is just fine. It’s the police and courts that are wrong and need to change their evil, unconstitutional ways. If you’re worried I’d go after a cop’s family, realize 2 things. First, in a democracy, we the people are responsible for what our agents do. That includes the cop’s family. Second, you can’t have justice without symmetry. My innocence is worth more than a bad, crooked cop. To have justice, innocence must be taken for innocence. Again, no mental deficiency here.
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 3 жыл бұрын
Make cops/prosecutors PERSONALLY liable for their mistakes and this crap will stop happening so frequently. No consequences for being wrong = *no incentive to get it right*
@philipsmith6424
@philipsmith6424 2 жыл бұрын
And Judges also because they cannot be sued !
@simon6071
@simon6071 2 жыл бұрын
If the victim were a very rich man, he certainly would not have been treated like a criminal like the way he had been treated. The cops, prosecutor and the judge in this case are all responsible for the persecution of this innocent man. I don't think the justice system will make them pay for their apathetic attitude that caused the innocent man to suffer. May be Karma will work when the justice system fails.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 2 жыл бұрын
It will also make them not prosecute anyone.
@randallsullivan3692
@randallsullivan3692 2 жыл бұрын
@@HalkerVeil Then replace them with someone who WILL do the job the way it is supposed to be done!
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 2 жыл бұрын
@@randallsullivan3692 There are not enough people who qualify.
@theunaimedarrow4903
@theunaimedarrow4903 3 жыл бұрын
My personal belief is that the secrecy and delay in bringing charges are intentional in order to prevent the accused from getting exonerating evidence. At 7 months, any security videos that would place the accused elsewhere would have been deleted and memories would have faded. The goal is conviction, not justice.
@sheepishmclemmingston5550
@sheepishmclemmingston5550 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@alanberickson
@alanberickson 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, some some / many prosecutors it's all about ego and getting the wins. Sounds like the cops didn't do a very good job either, but the buck has to really stop at the prosecutor.
@Xibyth
@Xibyth 3 жыл бұрын
As with any business, the goal is profit, convictions are just another sale to them.
@kstricl
@kstricl 3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the ability of humans to procrastinate and fail to complete a case with any competence. This may not have been anything other than case overload. And of course, incompetence in not looking at the evidence in a timely fashion.
@tjsbbi
@tjsbbi 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecutors are supposed to serve the interests of justice but it's well known that they try to rack up wins irrespective of justice to bolster their careers.
@DragNetJoe
@DragNetJoe 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that sucks about our legal system is that it is really biased against "normal" people. If a hardened criminal gets picked up for something like this, have to go to court and do a day in jail, no big deal, another feather in some circles. On the other end, if you are wealthy you have an army of lawyers to beat the prosecutors down. For the rest of us it would be a traumatic and stressful experience.
@TheDiverJim
@TheDiverJim 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this in our legal system. If we are innocent until proven guilty, then why are they violating our rights before the verdict?
@unnecessaryexprmnt
@unnecessaryexprmnt 3 жыл бұрын
Every law enforcement officer needs their own malpractice insurance. This way, they can be held accountable while not on the public’s dime. The insurance premiums can be paid by public money, but an officer with high premiums will find that they’re not employable for repeated malpractice. That aught to restore some public confidence in the justice system.
@edwardwinkler7257
@edwardwinkler7257 3 жыл бұрын
Every doctor, nurse, paramedic and EMT, can be held liable. Qualified immunity is not reasonable in a free society with a market solution.
@drink15
@drink15 3 жыл бұрын
If the premiums are paid by public money, then it’s on the public dime. They should paid their own premiums like in other industries. It’s a good idea, but it still lets the cop off the hook for any wrong doing.
@unnecessaryexprmnt
@unnecessaryexprmnt 3 жыл бұрын
@@drink15 I'm sure the idea can be refined greatly. But, they get their salary from the public anyway. So we're still paying for it. But department paid premiums may incentivize the chief to keep better officers. So we may be splitting hairs here. Good comment.
@jeremyhanna3852
@jeremyhanna3852 3 жыл бұрын
Just like doctors and rn's have
@TheFatman819
@TheFatman819 3 жыл бұрын
Does the public pay malpractice insurance for Doctors or Nurses? Get rid if the police Union and the Ferturnal Order of Police. These two groups do everything to undermine justice.
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 3 жыл бұрын
I sat in St. Claire Shores Court because of a guy that hit me and attempted to run while I was on I-94. When I got there, I learned I was pushed back until after lunch. I watched a freaking sh!t show. Prosecutors and the judge literally saying "We don't believe you, guilty". Some of what I saw was just crazy, refused evidence, refused to listen, just "GUILTY". It reeked of a power hungry prosecutor and a judge that couldn't care less. It was nuts. I saw a similar thing in Macomb County Court when I was picked to be on a jury, but then the guy decided to take a plea deal. What was crazy? The cops actually said they most likely didn't have enough evidence, but the prosecutor was going to use past history against the guy and essentially said "we will have this jury thinking you did something so horrible you'll never get out of jail"....I was appalled, and I hope I never, ever, ever have to go into another courtroom for ANY REASON...
@Mercmad
@Mercmad Жыл бұрын
Now imagine your name is D J Trump and the Judge hearing your indictment is a former employee of a certain Hunter Biden....?
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 10 ай бұрын
That’s what the second amendment is for. Judges and prosecutors bleed the same as everyone else.
@RealPackCat
@RealPackCat 2 жыл бұрын
I was recently assaulted by a nursing assistant trying to draw blood, when I had stitches and a soft cast on my right hand and she decided it was a good idea to close my right hand into a fist to help her find a vein. My natural reaction was to pull away. Since she was already hovering over me in my personal space, my hand accidentally glanced her glasses. It did not knock them off, but simply adjusted them a little. She had no visible injuries. I went to the hospital director and reported the incident and they called the nurse into the office. Her ego got bruised and she stormed out of the office. I spoke with their attorney a few days later. Meanwhile she had filed a complaint with the Police. I was contacted to meet with them, and went in thinking I was to give testimony on what happened to me. The next thing I knew, the Police were giving me the option of paying a large civil fine or going to criminal court as a defendant. To top it off, this week I was out with a friend and the same Police Sgt. approached my friend and warned them I am a criminal. I am left with having to go back to the Police station and *filing charges against the officer for Blackmail, Extortion, Corruption, Abuse of Power, Excess of Official Authority, Negligent Performance of Duties, and of course Defamation.*
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the jury in an assault case outside of a dance club, where the investigators submitted, as their main evidence, a group of photographs, with one of the victims identifying a very blurred group of images as the suspect. They claimed that they were given the photographs from surveillance cameras around the club as just a bunch of random images, where some show the suspect in clear images in front of the club waiting to come in and in a bunch of blurred images around the back of the club chasing the victims. The thing was, the investigators completely missed the time/date stamps (from the same source, the camera control system, so it didn't matter if they were off) that showed the sequence of the photos as they were taken, and definitively showed that the blurred image was NOT the suspect, and the suspect charged was about 15 feet behind everything happening and never touched anyone. We deliberated for about half an an hour, found we were all thinking the same thing, made a vote, and found him not guilty. The investigators completely screwed up on that one simply due to a significant lack of effort. Of course, they never faced any sort of penalty for completely wasting their time and not getting the real ones behind the whole assault. In government, there is no penalty for doing a poor job.
@rileypup5959
@rileypup5959 Ай бұрын
In government, when you screw up…. You get promoted. As the easiest way to get someone moved is to promote them. To fire someone in a government job would take too much paperwork and documentation.
@klaatubob
@klaatubob 3 жыл бұрын
He should sue for slander, libel, defamation, reckless prosecution, there's got to be some sort of way to make them realize they can't do this.
@jean-clauded5823
@jean-clauded5823 2 жыл бұрын
The problem remains. Your asking the "Good 'ol boy" systems to honor the request of someone who is not in the group against a member of the group. Ask any prosecutor, they will tell you they are *ALMOST* always guilty. The problem is we make it easy to assume they are. Get pulled over for a warrant, get arrested, and then released because they realized your the wrong person. You will have to pay hundreds of dollars to get your car back, and in some cases, find a way home from the police department at 3am with a dead cell phone (or a receipt for you to come get your property the next day). Can't call friends unless you have the number memorized, can't call uber, and it's not like the police are going to take you home, or to your car.
@NewtonWashinton
@NewtonWashinton 3 жыл бұрын
So he was Assumed Guilty and had to prove his innocence, I think that is backwards....
@mikeicee
@mikeicee 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how it is America, I think for some yogurt murder in Texas Police got like 50 people to confess to it. They just tell show you pictures of a lethal injection table and say confess or you’ll get this etc.
@autophreaktrishield
@autophreaktrishield 3 жыл бұрын
Standard operating procedure for these fuck up in the "Just Us" system
@acoow
@acoow 3 жыл бұрын
"Innocent until proven guilty" is about the TRIAL, not the pressing of charges.
@BridgetKF
@BridgetKF 3 жыл бұрын
That's the United States. Here in the USA, you are AUTOMATICALLY guilty until you're proven innocent.
@JBobjork
@JBobjork 2 жыл бұрын
@@acoow Well... since he is NOT guilty they cant treat him like he is guilty. Press charges yes, but: Thats not being guilty. And: The prosecutor should not press charges unless he actually have a case. And to have a case he need all evidence. And he didn't.
@leifthemarine
@leifthemarine 2 жыл бұрын
As a Retired Federal Agent, the very first thing I did when I sat down in front of a Video Security System was to annotate the current time stamp on the video system and the current accurate time. This was the most important thing to do at that moment because: (1) you do not want to waste precious investigative hours looking for an incident on video, just to realize some time later that you were looking at the wrong segment of videos or, (2) like in this case, you accuse an innocent person. The time stamp information was always annotated on my reports. Every surveillance system I dealt with was off by anywhere from 15 minutes to days and hours. This should be understood by every investigator. Unfortunately, I presume the official acquiring the video was a uniform officer untrained in good in investigative techniques, or the establishment simply provided the video at the request of the officer, probably without knowing the time stamp fault. Even though a system can auto update the time through the internet, most establishments do not want the system vulnerable by creating that connection. And of course, most establishments do not want to "waste time" on the system periodically for the purpose of updating the time.
@jp9355
@jp9355 3 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened to me. I was arrested and charged with raping my current/only wife after our 6yr old daughter walked in on us being intimate late at night then told her teacher. Not one member of law enforcement including the prosecutor ever talked to my wife or myself. Case was dismissed with prejudice 4 months and about $40k later. These prosecutors have free reign.
@mrdan2898
@mrdan2898 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes, that's beyond horrible!!
@RiversJ
@RiversJ Жыл бұрын
Such false allegations without due process investigation ought to be a felony itself.
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 Жыл бұрын
And I bet those sociopaths have zero remorse for the damage their mistakes caused to your family.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 10 ай бұрын
@@RiversJit is a felony. It’s felony perjury and disparaging civil rights under color of law among a host of other things.
@paulsmodels
@paulsmodels 8 ай бұрын
Next time lock the door skippy.
@Acecool
@Acecool 3 жыл бұрын
This is plain and simple kidnapping. I had something similar happen to me and the judge had the audacity to claim he believed the officer in question despite the facts proving it was impossible for me to have committed the crime. It was dropped, but the fact that a supposed unbiased judge is so biased to the point where he couldn't do kindergarten math based on the officers testimony to see the fact the officer was lying under oath is appalling and disgusting... These people are domestic terrorists.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
@EnthalpyAndEntropy 10 ай бұрын
This is why we have a second amendment. Judges and cops bleed the same as everyone else.
@joeambly6807
@joeambly6807 23 күн бұрын
Lol your so extra.
@Acecool
@Acecool 22 күн бұрын
@@joeambly6807 you're*
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 3 жыл бұрын
Cases like this should result in the defendant automatically getting their money back. This isn't a case where there was, at least some evidence, there was literally no evidence tying him to the crime, nor was there any effort made to verify that the card wasn't his. As long as the prosecutors can bill the taxpayers for their time and stick the defendant with the cost of a defense, you'll see this sort of thing happening. I'm sure they were hoping he'd just plead guilty so they wouldn't need to bother with the court proceedings.
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 2 жыл бұрын
Not just their money back. But 5x the amount.
@drego5
@drego5 2 жыл бұрын
@@IIGrayfoxII Paid by the prosecutor personally. Like Kyle's Law, having to do with completely unfounded malicious prosecution.
@purposly
@purposly 2 жыл бұрын
get their money back and all involved on the prosecutions side should be put to death
@JohnAnderson42
@JohnAnderson42 2 жыл бұрын
this could have happened to me! I traded in a car and a few months later I got contacted by 3 different police departments about people stealing gas (pump and drive) in my old car. Lucky I had the document from the dealership of me trading in the car. I also went to the DMV and got the records of who owned the car based on the VIN number as opposed to the plates. After the first one was cleared up I got a registered letter. I called them and got that one cleared up. Then the 3rd cop came to my work! I was called into the boss 's office and I looked at the cop and said "I didn't steal any gas!" and they thought they had me via spontaneous confession. This was in hindsight a bad idea, but I was able to show them all the documents I had proving (at least to their satisfaction that I was not the guy)
@SLagonia
@SLagonia 2 жыл бұрын
Government: "In order to prevent this kind of mistake again, we are encouraging all citizens to avoid car washes..."
@reneejones6330
@reneejones6330 3 жыл бұрын
Why do we allow police and prosecutors to wreck someone's life with no accountability? A problem, I think, is that most people believe that anyone accused must be guilty. TV encourages this nonsense.
@fomori2
@fomori2 3 жыл бұрын
This is an problem of education and currently the goal of those in power is to spread ignorance, not reduce it, because it benefits them. Social media was created to do just that, spread misinformation through confirmation bias by allowing people to form echo chambers via blocking and "community guidelines" so they only hear the point of view they want to hear.
@laurielewis2745
@laurielewis2745 3 жыл бұрын
Because until it happens to them, they believe what they are taught in kindergarten and on shows like COPS.
@ReluctantPost
@ReluctantPost 3 жыл бұрын
Even networks that are supposedly conservative have played a significant role in promoting this perspective and public attitude over the last few decades. Nancy Grace, for example, seems to be featured across the political spectrum, sadly enough.
@laurielewis2745
@laurielewis2745 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReluctantPost Yep. More like Nancy Graceless.
@ReluctantPost
@ReluctantPost 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurielewis2745 I doubt that there is any public figure from the legal community who believes less in America’s concepts of justice, like presumed innocence until guilt is proven, or John Adams’ example of the most maligned people having high-quality legal representation. Yet she is paraded on media outlets as if she should have the public’s regard. She would fit much better in an authoritarian system.
@johnhiggs5932
@johnhiggs5932 3 жыл бұрын
The police and prosecutors failed to proceed with due diligence. They were derelict in their official duties and should be held liable. Will that occur in this case? Almost certainly not.
@homelandfreedom
@homelandfreedom 3 жыл бұрын
Let's hope that he fixes it these azzez get screwed fired
@jerseyveg1
@jerseyveg1 2 жыл бұрын
It has never been "innocent until PROVEN guilty" !! It is always "guilty until you can prove your innocence"!! Our judicial system is a joke is all about power and status, always has always will be, why do people choose not see this?!?!
@tripprogers4814
@tripprogers4814 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Spokane and work for KHQ-SWX channel 6.. thank you for covering this Steve, you are the man
@stevelehto
@stevelehto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the note!
@RobertSmith-lg7jp
@RobertSmith-lg7jp 3 жыл бұрын
The side effect of qualified immunity turns out to be incompetent policing . Who'd a thunk it ....
@zomakblah7804
@zomakblah7804 3 жыл бұрын
The side effect of qualified immunity is it promotes abusive and unconstitutional policing.
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 3 жыл бұрын
@@zomakblah7804 Which is incompetent policing. The reason those standards are in place is to force the government to follow forms that protect society, and ensure quality of work. Mostly.
@zomakblah7804
@zomakblah7804 3 жыл бұрын
@@chickenmonger123 "incompetent " is to apply errors threw ignorance, and that isn't what's occurring.
@acoow
@acoow 3 жыл бұрын
Neither you, nor the other three who have [so far] replied to your comment have a clue what qualified immunity is. All you know is that you have been told that it is bad and don't care to learn what it is so that you can form your own opinion instead of adopting the one that has been assigned to you.
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 3 жыл бұрын
@@zomakblah7804 No that isn’t the definition of incompetence. Incompetence is the inability to do something successfully. And as a system of policing, that is what we are talking about.
@paulbranch5454
@paulbranch5454 3 жыл бұрын
In this day and age everyone needs a lawyer in the family just to fight bogus charges.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
In Catholic countries every extended family needs: a priest a nun a cop, the higher rank the better a military officer, the higher rank the better a lawyer, better a judge Get the idea?
@hankkingsley9300
@hankkingsley9300 2 жыл бұрын
In a Protestant country like the USA you are SOL
@hankkingsley9300
@hankkingsley9300 2 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ if you are using a debit card that is timestamped to the second. You can track my whereabouts very specifically. Time to go back to cash.
@bomarc
@bomarc Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: I in WA State. Someone was harassing me on line (social media); and I had requested the harassment to stop. It didn't. So I contacted the police. The police contacted the subject - and suggested that the subject take out a TRO against me. The police refused to investigate my complaint; and then would not take a complaint against the officer. Eventually the judge dismissed the case - when it became clear that the subjected violated the law to obtain more information against (about) me. (And no, the judge did not refer the 'violation of the law' to anyone)
@mybraineatseverything7404
@mybraineatseverything7404 2 жыл бұрын
All I could think of every time Steve said "two dollars" was that movie, "Better Off Dead." 😂
@mikezupancic2182
@mikezupancic2182 3 жыл бұрын
Your bank and credit card company know to the minute when and where your card was used. How is the prosecutor not being placed before a discipline committee
@chrishammett2676
@chrishammett2676 3 жыл бұрын
Just fyi: As a specialist in computers I can say that the time stamp on bank transactions have literally down to the second. It is not shown in the user interface the customer gets, you have to Suphoena the exact transaction details from the bank to get that granular. To a bank seconds is counted in dollars on all transactions, so extreme accuracy is required.
@lilkittygirl
@lilkittygirl 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! This is also why it’s important to always keep your receipts!!
@jsivco3sivco785
@jsivco3sivco785 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that info, Chris. I didn't know about that. Useful information!
@redtails
@redtails 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I was thinking the same; there's no reason for the bank time to be wrong, though the camera setup at the washing station is most likely wrong by several minutes/hours. Even if it ran completely accurate, maybe it wasn't set up for Winter/Summer time or something
@tonysimek
@tonysimek 2 жыл бұрын
This is the ultimate in lazy investigation, incompetent prosecution, and horrific idiots with authority.
@micahkrout3568
@micahkrout3568 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's about time that when court cases come down to he said - she said situations, that the police no longer receive the benefit of the doubt. There is way too much evidence of police falsifying reports and lying in court just to get a conviction, regardless of guilt or innocence.
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 3 жыл бұрын
If he sues for damages, and I'm on the jury, Scott gets 500 Million dollars! Geoff Who is a freedom advocate!
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is a nice Sentiment but taxpayers have to shell out the 500 million dollars and there is ABSOLUTELY NO PUNISHMENT WHATSOEVER to the cops or prosecutors who were too lazy to do their jobs. So the only people you are punishing had nothing to do with it.
@solarnaut
@solarnaut 3 жыл бұрын
@@robjohnson8522 , well isn't it "WE THE PEOPLE" who are the ones who confer the power to arrest and jail the suspect "on our behalf"? Morally power comes with responsibility and if those the people appoint abuse it and pass the buck, that buck should ultimately stop in the lap of WE THE PEOPLE. Still, just because Geoff is on the jury doesn't mean he gets to tell everyone what the judgment is. B-)
@robjohnson8522
@robjohnson8522 3 жыл бұрын
@@solarnaut "Morally power comes with responsibility " Absolutely - just not 500 million dollars worth! ;)
@Phil-rs5wl
@Phil-rs5wl 3 жыл бұрын
He needs to sue the government.
@gregculverwell
@gregculverwell 3 жыл бұрын
They will claim qualified immunity.
@timewa851
@timewa851 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregculverwell now you know why Tom Wales, former prosecutor, is very dead. : )
@j_taylor
@j_taylor 3 жыл бұрын
Huh? Why does he need this?
@airplane312
@airplane312 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he needs go after the police department and prosecutor not united states government, even though they might have immunity. He needs to prove that immunity is void because of something. There is a fine line of what immunity can do and not can do, like destroying evidence for no reason or just make look good.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
Where? In the government’s court? In a "common law court?" The sheriff doesn't obey "common law court," "sovereign citizen court," whatever, orders.
@carlteyssier6696
@carlteyssier6696 2 жыл бұрын
File a complaint with the bar association against the prosecutor.
@rkmatt8761
@rkmatt8761 3 жыл бұрын
DAs and officers need to be held accountable for false charges due to lack of investigations. A personal lawsuit should be issued towards the officers and the DA that would have to be paid out of their personal account and not the city budget
@parrotletsrunearth1173
@parrotletsrunearth1173 3 жыл бұрын
The prosecutors should be incarcerated for behavior such as this. This is beyond arrogant and shows what's wrong with the "justice" system in America. This is the result of a punitive society that always has a hard on to punish others.
@jtandme-ot9cl
@jtandme-ot9cl 3 жыл бұрын
System is corrupt to the core and nothing but a good 'ol boy network of sleazebag crooks
@acoow
@acoow 3 жыл бұрын
It is not a crime to be lazy and incompetent.
@parrotletsrunearth1173
@parrotletsrunearth1173 3 жыл бұрын
@@acoow It's not about being lazy and incompetent. It's about callousness and corruption.
@ezekieloruven
@ezekieloruven 2 жыл бұрын
I call it the American Injustice System.
@michaeltaylor7025
@michaeltaylor7025 3 жыл бұрын
Counter sue: laundry list lawyers, time, worry, personnel time.
@dutchy1121
@dutchy1121 2 жыл бұрын
"Guy went to a car wash, shortly thereafter...." 7 months can not really be called shortly unless you're comparing it to years or decades.
@integr8er66
@integr8er66 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is when they booked him I'll bet you they took his finger prints, and after he was let go they will NEVER purge those prints. He is in the system forever.
@natedavis3943
@natedavis3943 3 жыл бұрын
$5000 for an attorney to email a prosecutor? That's the real sham in this story! He didn't even go to trial!
@autophreaktrishield
@autophreaktrishield 3 жыл бұрын
I assure you it wasn't "a email". There is so much bullshit that goes on pretrial that wracks up insane bills. Especially over a year
@AndyGeesGarage
@AndyGeesGarage 3 жыл бұрын
There has to be changes made so that wrongfully accused can recover costs more easily. It has gotten to the point of just pure laziness where the attitude is to “press charges and let the court sort it out” What if that person didn’t have money to defend themselves?
@2000ViperGTSsubscribe
@2000ViperGTSsubscribe 3 жыл бұрын
Or maliciously file charges to have someone pay attorney fees-a common police practice to hurt citizens. I have recently experienced it and I was TOTALLY innocent.
@kurtwetzel154
@kurtwetzel154 3 жыл бұрын
What if the man moved or wasn't home to deal with this case? In life things happen. The man should be reimbursed the $5k he spent plus money to compensate him. Give him $5k for all his trouble and it comes out of the DA's and police pockets.
@rtucker0458
@rtucker0458 3 жыл бұрын
This is happening because "The People".. Constitutionally speaking.. Have allowed government to become our overlords, They are no longer servants of the people and the community. The average working person in this case would have been screwed. The courts, police, prosecutor, could give a damn whether someone is innocent. All they want it conviction to show their "great conviction record".. Which is one reason I will never vote for one with a record that doesn't have loses. Not everyone that goes to court is guilty. Actually a much higher percentage than should be are innocent. It's figured that 10% of people in jail are actually innocent. Think about that.. 1 in 10.. That's insane!! And they wonder why people no longer trust police or our "justice" system..
@BDaltonYoung
@BDaltonYoung 3 жыл бұрын
What happens is normally that the public defender advises the person to take a plea deal (because they often get away with time served when they couldn't afford bail), but then the conviction sticks on their record and hurts job prospects/rental opportunities/etc for years to come. It is policing for profit and political clout, and poor people make good targets because they can't fight back.
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 2 жыл бұрын
@@BDaltonYoung The really sad part is once a person is booked into jail they are entered into a database which the FBI and Homeland Security access. This new record never goes away even though the person was not tried or found guilty of any crime.
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 2 жыл бұрын
I had a card number stolen and I found out because when I looked at my account on-line there was a bunch of $99 charges are Chevron stations all over LA (sometimes many miles apart with only minutes between). My bank and insurance covered it immediately (well, money took a couple days to show up) and reversed all the over draft fees and issued me a new card. The lady at the bank says it won't be investigated even though I had a good idea where it was stolen at. She said it costs more to investigate than to just cover it with insurance.
@rodsingleton3097
@rodsingleton3097 2 жыл бұрын
I had a incident a week ago with a O'REILLY employee who tried to rip me off, if I was someone that had no clue how a car works it'd cost me $300.00 to fix my car that had no problem, Auto Zone verified what I was thinking and that the problem was caused by my 15yr.old son playing with the radio, etc.etc. while I'm in Walmart, came out and it just clicked when I tried to start it, got it jumped and drove it to O'REILLY S.. the story continues.
@nickv1008
@nickv1008 3 жыл бұрын
GUILTY, until you prove your innocence! Enforce perjury laws. This happens all too often, what if he didnt have the 5 grand to fight it. It could be you or a family member next time.
@arthurwintersight7868
@arthurwintersight7868 Жыл бұрын
It's surprisingly common that a poor person gets accused of a crime they didn't commit, can't post bail, and after months of being treated like a subhuman animal in a filthy and overcrowded jail, they end up confessing guilt to a crime they didn't commit just because the prosecutor said they could go home as long as they sign the papers. In almost every one of those cases - the prosecutor was in fact telling the truth. Sign the paper saying that you're guilty, and you go home. The fact that you didn't commit the crime is irrelevant.
@andyanderson6440
@andyanderson6440 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a false ARREST and felony charges.
@acoow
@acoow 3 жыл бұрын
False arrest is not defined as arresting someone who later turns out to not be the perpetrator of the crime - even if that arrest came from incompetence and sloth.
@andyanderson6440
@andyanderson6440 3 жыл бұрын
@@acoow oh ok , it must be unlawful arrest then. He no doubt was arrested.
@kylemacmillan652
@kylemacmillan652 3 жыл бұрын
When I worked in retail security we used to get these types of crimes all the time. The time of the purchase on video, the merchants receipt and the banks statements are never gonna line up. I've seen them off by 10 mins. When I did have to gather evidence I had to see what register it was, what items were bought and how many. I'd also look at couple of transactions before and after to make sure it was the right person.
@mrdan2898
@mrdan2898 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a diligent investigation. More investigations should be this thorough.
@SalemikTUBE
@SalemikTUBE 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago out of the blue I received a "notice of intended prosecution" for a hit and run. No details and vague as hell. It was supposed to happened some 11 days prior to the receipt of the notice. I contacted the fuzz and was told that I had run someone off the road and driven off. I asked them why they hadn't come to my home on the day to breathalyse me or check my car and they got all bolshy. After some weeks of worrying about it I got another letter saying that they had decided to not pursue it, so I rang them again to be told that the car in question was a different model. No apology, just more implied threats. The police don't care what stress their actions cause.
@renatapawelec8154
@renatapawelec8154 2 жыл бұрын
“The police don’t care what stress their actions cause.” Not true. They do care about the level of stress they cause, as it is their imperative to cause innocent people as much stress, hardship and actual harm as possible. Oh, that is alongside of cashing unearned paychecks and eating free donuts.
@matthewk6731
@matthewk6731 3 жыл бұрын
"We think that's the guy." Everyone assumes these idiot cops and prosecutors actually think. ......Think again. I lost almost all respect after having been falsely accused by idiot cops and prosecutors that knew their star witness was the guy that did it. Most of them are scumbags. My opinion of law enforcement gets lower every time I see videos like this....and I've seen a lot of videos like this.
@truthseeker1871
@truthseeker1871 3 жыл бұрын
Biff, Bam, Slap, Kick! You go, Matthew K. There's a lot of stories out there. Don't let Steve have 'em all.
@mybraineatseverything7404
@mybraineatseverything7404 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, me too! I got set up by crooked cops. When I got to court, the judge took one look at the charges, shook his head about one of them, and apologized to me in open court. For some unknown reason though, he didn't toss the entire thing. Still wound up with a stupid misdemeanor charge. I hate our judicial system.
@jtandme-ot9cl
@jtandme-ot9cl 2 жыл бұрын
The exact reason I use my age excuse to NEVER serve on a jury again. The system is corrupt to the core and has zero accountability!
@mybraineatseverything7404
@mybraineatseverything7404 2 жыл бұрын
@@jtandme-ot9cl I have a medical exemption, thank God! I've never had to do jury duty. It's basically my nightmare to have to do it.
@mrdan2898
@mrdan2898 2 жыл бұрын
They only care for prosecutions, not for the truth.
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude 3 жыл бұрын
This is bad enough on it's face, but there are states now that have laws on the books making the person responsible for their room and board while incarcerated whether guilty or innocent.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 жыл бұрын
That is true and ought to be done away with. If the intent is to charge a person money for their incarceration, have a shred of honest and make it a fine as part of the sentencing.
@rogerdewhurst5750
@rogerdewhurst5750 3 жыл бұрын
One cent per day might be about right
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerdewhurst5750 Even one cent per day is dangerous. it leaves the door open for "miscellaneous fees" and other lies to drive the price up drastically, just like college tuition. If "the state" wants custody of someone, for reasons good or otherwise, they ought to assume all of the responsibilities of that custody. If it is too expensive to do so, maybe look at cost-cutting, or perhaps being less eager to hold so many people in custody.
@rekietabeatslc9980
@rekietabeatslc9980 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 exactly. Make the state liable-if they hold ppl for free they'll just arrest everyone & let it get sorted out later (if they can afford a lawyer, otherwise might as well just sentence at time of arrest).
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
Bonner County Idaho = $25/day.
@smallflame85
@smallflame85 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with having your day in court is that you're the only one not getting paid to be there. In most cases you're spending money to be there. I can imagine that the prosecutors had this case on a shelf untouched until the court date for the case drew near.
@Ian_Burt
@Ian_Burt 2 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if he had a public defender that just wanted to plea him out. Like what happens to so many other people.
@calvinthedestroyer
@calvinthedestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
Once a year we should gather all these cases up and sue the govement in a class action suit.
@TheRoadhammer379
@TheRoadhammer379 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ok. That's a joke. The largest gang in the world, and you think we are going to do anything, 😂
@calvinthedestroyer
@calvinthedestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoadhammer379 more of us then them?
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
Sue the government itself? It's not a human being; it's a "thing." Sue it in its court? Before its judge?
@jbtcajun5260
@jbtcajun5260 3 жыл бұрын
The police and prosecutors are never held accountable for their incompetence. End police unions.
@rajnikantsharma
@rajnikantsharma 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecutors have unions too?
@ihave35cents95
@ihave35cents95 3 жыл бұрын
And all unions even the teachers union and it all
@stonecoldscubasteveo4827
@stonecoldscubasteveo4827 3 жыл бұрын
all public sector unions should be illegal.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
Prosecutors are lawyers, who are almost all members of the bar association mutual protection society.
@jbtcajun5260
@jbtcajun5260 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajnikantsharma What does that have to do with what I said. They do enjoy qualified immunity witch is a problem in its self.
@EightiesTV
@EightiesTV 2 жыл бұрын
Madame Guillotine will hear nothing of qualified immunity.
@truckericksdashcam
@truckericksdashcam 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect time stamps are a problem . As a truck driver I've had to get toll booth collectors to sign my toll receipt with the time corrected because it didn't match my hours of service log book time for which I could have been charged with falsified log book .
@Jamez84
@Jamez84 3 жыл бұрын
This is why cops and prosecutes need to be held accountable when they make a mistake.
@danburch9989
@danburch9989 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. We are held accountable for our mistakes.
@gingw7333
@gingw7333 2 жыл бұрын
@@danburch9989 As with this poor guy sometimes we're held accountable for other people's mistakes.
@0756rocketman
@0756rocketman 2 жыл бұрын
So if the court / system makes accountability not possible. That could be a bad thing. Remember killdozer.
@gsleatherworks2442
@gsleatherworks2442 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time, crooked DA’s charge whomever they think they can scare into copping a plea for a lessor charge and….another feather in the DA’s cap. Rarely, if EVER are the prosecutors held accountable.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 2 жыл бұрын
Rather, they get re-elected as "tough on crime" in conservative land.
@gsleatherworks2442
@gsleatherworks2442 2 жыл бұрын
Or like Kamala Harris, in democrat-land, the minions ignore her charging endless petty non-violent pot possession felonies against minorities because she’s a non-white democrat….and your point is??
@scoutmaster33
@scoutmaster33 2 жыл бұрын
The name Binger popped into my head for some reason.....
@oldk4tz
@oldk4tz Ай бұрын
he wants a change? sue the crap out of them.
@chrisscott7317
@chrisscott7317 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Lehto is awesome! He seems like he's a great Attorney for the people. Thanks Steve for everything you do
@Elliandr
@Elliandr 3 жыл бұрын
He should sue the specifically for a declaration of innocence and for any arrest record to be expunged. Simply being accused of a felony can follow someone for the rest of their lives.
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 Жыл бұрын
Honestly that should be AUTOMATIC. If you are accused and declared innocent, all records pertaining to you and the accusation, including any arrest records, should cease to exist.
@Elliandr
@Elliandr Жыл бұрын
​@@jeremydale4548 Yes it should be automatic. Quite a few things that should be automatic simply aren't though. For example, right now there's a case before the supreme court where a man whom everyone agrees is innocent has to rot in jail because he ran out of appeals before the interpretation of the law changed which made him innocent and they don't want to let him go free entirely because of their procedures. If, however, they just had an internal rule to automatically free anyone in such a situation there would be no problems and the system wouldn't be congested. Expecting our justice system to ever be logical or just is expecting too much.
@jeremydale4548
@jeremydale4548 Жыл бұрын
The fact that isn't automatic should frankly be illegal.
@Ordcestus11
@Ordcestus11 3 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a standard here with good faith in prosecution. The government should create a tort allowing the prosecutor's office to be sued in cases like this where some due diligence would have quickly cleared it up. Not only a tort but defense attorneys should be able to make a motion in active cases for this kind of sanctions and damages. Probably gonna be a high bar to hit but the mere existence may cause prosecutor's to actually pay attention.
@anthonynorton666
@anthonynorton666 3 жыл бұрын
That bring's up an interesting question: Can you sue for wrongful prosecution before a verdict? Plus the burden of proof is less in civil, than it is in criminal cases.
@canniballectus2560
@canniballectus2560 3 жыл бұрын
Just make it legal to kill prosecutors that fuck up like this, shit will be taken care of rather quickly.
@anthonynorton666
@anthonynorton666 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberthudson1959 Do you have to prove a motive for malice or could an absolute disregard of exculpatory facts be malice?
@Ordcestus11
@Ordcestus11 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonynorton666 with the current standard, you'd essentially have to prove malice. Theoretically "reckless disregard" for the facts could sustain a lawsuit but realistically it won't fly @Robert Hudson The reason for the government creating this tort is that that would waive sovereign immunity for these particular situations. There's several laws like this where the government allows people to sue under certain circumstances that absent that law would be barred by sovereign immunity.
@jtandme-ot9cl
@jtandme-ot9cl 3 жыл бұрын
Why does it always seem the burden of proof is on the accused and not the accuser? That right there is crap!
@drbichat5229
@drbichat5229 2 жыл бұрын
A 2 dollars charge is very common with stolen cards. Is just a test to see if the card has funds and is not blocked. My bank explained that to me one my card info was stolen in DC and a 2 dollars charge appeared in Texas almost immediately after I last used it 3 thousand miles away
@janbrittenson210
@janbrittenson210 9 ай бұрын
If he was arrested after his attorney sent proof and there was no longer any reasonable suspicion, then he should sue the city or county for wrongful arrest.
@johnswicegood7000
@johnswicegood7000 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecuters in Denton Texas did the same thing to me on a bogus Disorderly Conduct (Contempt of Cop) charge. I stressed for a year and a half over my charge that the D.A. NEVER even looked at my file until a couple days prior to court. When they realized that they had no case, they wanted to offer me a plea deal. I told them to go kick rocks. It cost me $20 to get them to drop the charge. They wanted approximately $500 in court fees to expunge my record, but because of government shutdowns during covid, it eventually was expunged on it's own and my record shows clear with no arrest. I am still pissed off at the district attorney's office for refusing to even look at the evidence and consider dismissing my case when it was first filed. Instead the charge cost me multiple job opportunities and the temporary suspension of my concealed carry permit.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 4 ай бұрын
Charging court fees to expunge a bogus dropped charge due to their screwup is exceedingly messed up! How can they do that? They messed up, they dropped the charges, its their job to make the record reflect that!
@Dubanx
@Dubanx 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, as a programmer, i'd like to point out that the stamps stamps being off probably isn't really a mistake. For most purposes, clocks don't need to be accurate to more than a minute or two. In a lot of cases they simply don't even attempt to sync the time that closely. Which is a pain for programming when you need to compare two times, but one time came from a client's computer, and the other from the server. One time is earlier than the other, but the actual timing could be the other way around simply due to the clocks being off.
@radolfkalis4041
@radolfkalis4041 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. The time on my work computer is 20 to 22 min slower than the time on our surveillance cameras, and lets not get started on the office desk phones. There is a bunch of stupid gross negligence in the part of the Law in this case. He really should seek financial judgement against them.
@johnree6106
@johnree6106 3 жыл бұрын
At work we went with the 3 minutes rule. Meaning that a person time could be up to 3 minutes early or late.
@IanBPPK
@IanBPPK 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why any medium sized business should take the time to have a centralized source of truth (NTP server) that then points to NIST or another known good NTP source.
@jameskaraganis2569
@jameskaraganis2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@IanBPPK Yes ... but what if there's an issue with that internal server? The reality is that the RTC chips in every desktop computer, server, and embedded system on the planet were never intended to be used as a source of evidence in a courtroom.
@alastorclark3492
@alastorclark3492 3 жыл бұрын
@@IanBPPK Thats not really their problem. Its not any sized companies job to make it easier to prosecute someone and in the case security cameras the time doesnt need to be accurate to the second to catch and prosecute theft
@robertschwartzman195
@robertschwartzman195 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he sues the police and the court system for a million dollar against them for wrongful arrest and harassment.
@Golfnut_2099
@Golfnut_2099 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like he should be able to sue the city for wrongful charges. This is WRONG!!!!! The prosecutor had his head so far up his ass. WOW!!!
@calebfielding6352
@calebfielding6352 3 жыл бұрын
This type of prosicuter is the kind that becomes a judge.
@anthonynorton666
@anthonynorton666 3 жыл бұрын
There was case in Florida where a guy was accused of a committing a felony and he was hundreds of miles away at work when it happened with plenty of evidence to prove this including testimony of his coworkers, and he was charged anyways.
@BaronBlud
@BaronBlud 7 ай бұрын
This was done by someone that works at the car wash. A small charge is a common tactic to test if a stolen card is still valid before using it for larger purchases.
@deamonsoul1
@deamonsoul1 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who worked in consumer banking for 25 years, banks can provide the exact time and date of a transaction with a request since 9/11. So while a paper statement may not show everything we can request additional information from any merchant and must be provided it within 30 days. Most banks now automatically give you a date and time online or in their app. However when a small merchant may only submit to their processor once a week and as such may be missing information the information they provide to their processor includes the time and date stamp and just like banking the records must be held for 7 years.
@sharkysmachine9248
@sharkysmachine9248 3 жыл бұрын
*How disgusting and absolutely pathetic Prosecutors Office. Is this how they handle a murder cases??!*
@jacksavage4098
@jacksavage4098 3 жыл бұрын
This is how we have people demanding, 'Defund the Police'. Then we have prosecutors and judges with the 'Get out jail free card',qualified immunity.
@kfelix2934
@kfelix2934 3 жыл бұрын
But this sounds like the DA screw up & not the police. Before they pursue charges and felony charges at that, you would expect better review of the evidence.
@ScottMStolz
@ScottMStolz Жыл бұрын
@@kfelix2934 The police were supposed to perform an investigation before they hand it off to the DA for prosecution. The police's investigation wasn't thorough, and the DA should have refused to prosecute without solid evidence. Both the police and the DA screwed up here.
@lamplighter5545
@lamplighter5545 Ай бұрын
Years ago I had something similar, but far less serious, happen to me. One day I received a summons in the mail charging me with a misdemeanor. The charge was for putting a refrigerator out for pick-up with the door still attached. It was punishable my up to 6 months in jail and a $2000 fine. This did not happen. My refrigerator was only 3 years old and the delivery people removed the old one. I don't recall any of my neighbors putting a refrigerator out either. Fortunately, it never got beyond a discussion with the D.A.'s office.
@schaind11
@schaind11 2 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the incompetence and laziness of government workers.
@warsurplus
@warsurplus 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, I love how you always give attribution for who brings these stories to your attention and you also give attribution to who wrote the story. You are an honorable man.
@sgtchains
@sgtchains 3 жыл бұрын
In a past life I've had to push back on subpoenas with things like "Are you sure your time is accurate? What is your time synced to?" and even one time "Are you sure that this time is for the timezone CST?" Which in the last example they had assumed to me that it was, only to find out from the second subpoena that the time that they had was actually PST.
@NomDeUser
@NomDeUser 3 жыл бұрын
This was where my thoughts went when first watching the video. The charges were made throughout Idaho and Washington. Most of Idaho is in a different time zone than Washington.
@rayfridley6649
@rayfridley6649 2 жыл бұрын
False charges on felonies are good grounds for lawsuits against those originating the charges. If I was this guy, I'll be suing!
@kenwaid8239
@kenwaid8239 2 жыл бұрын
A wrong bank timestamp caused a coworker of mine to be accused of murder and extradited from Arizona to Baltimore along with her daughter and a friend’s daughter. the friends daughter was still in high school therefore even though over 18, her father still had legal rights over her being in jail. he went to Baltimore spent 20 minutes at the bank and proved that the timestamp on the video, and the timestamp at the ATM were off by 15 minutes. so his daughter, my coworker and her daughter were released from custody. this was after the case had been run on America’s most wanted. the final slap in the face that caused my friend to file a lawsuit against the city of Baltimore, was she said “how do my daughter and I get back to Arizona?” and the police looked her in the eye and said “that’s your problem” and told her to leave the police station Or be arrested for loitering. Yes she did file a lawsuit against America’s most wanted, and the Baltimore Police Department. and let’s just say the settlement allowed her to comfortably retire and her daughter to attend the college of her choice.
@TedSchoenling
@TedSchoenling 3 жыл бұрын
Prosecutor should pay for that out of his own pocket. He didn't do the actual work to figure out the guy didn't do it.
@ATEC101
@ATEC101 3 жыл бұрын
Its still tax dollars, you and I are paying for it. Even if you reduce the pay by that amount, we are still on the hook.
@jae9843
@jae9843 3 жыл бұрын
This could literally happen to any of us. lol. Infuriating.
@ohar7237
@ohar7237 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like the court owes his lawyers a bunch of money.
@hstad100
@hstad100 2 жыл бұрын
What a sad story! Steve I don't understand the procedures and controls (lack of) where they can just charge someone without contacting the accused. What a waste to society. Cops not doing their jobs (overworked), prosecutors not doing their jobs (overworked), the system is out of control. The number of laws broken everyday will eventually collapse society.
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