Mande and PirateSoftware Cyber Security Expert discuss the recent Apex Legends hacker situation

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Lycan PH

Lycan PH

4 ай бұрын

PirateSoftware CEO Thor, shares his input regarding the recent ALGS hacker situation
Mande joins the discord call
www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware
www.twitch.tv/mande
#apex #apexlegends #hacker

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@heneedsuhmmilk5778
@heneedsuhmmilk5778 4 ай бұрын
Bro just causally explaining cyber security on Microsoft paint is actually the best
@Kamkean
@Kamkean 4 ай бұрын
he was just explaining how server connections work on a really basic level, not really explaining cybersecurity
@heneedsuhmmilk5778
@heneedsuhmmilk5778 4 ай бұрын
@@Kamkean either way it’s funny that he’s taking 20+ years of knowledge and explaining it through doodles
@deepfryme65
@deepfryme65 4 ай бұрын
Its my favorite part of his channel, i get all excited when i see paint on a PirateSoftware stream 😅 ​@heneedsuhmmilk5778
@JesskuHatsune
@JesskuHatsune 4 ай бұрын
Pirate Software is the GOAT frfr
@viciuuu4532
@viciuuu4532 4 ай бұрын
Bruh
@Sakhan9969
@Sakhan9969 4 ай бұрын
you wish. and then you hear his stories on countering botting and his CS expertise starts sounding like fart in the wind.
@flatface42
@flatface42 4 ай бұрын
@@Sakhan9969 you obviously havent watched a single one of his streams lmao
@Sakhan9969
@Sakhan9969 4 ай бұрын
@@flatface42 muh chargebacks, muh 2 mil banned. my man, botting is still a problem, chargebacks stopped being a nuisance to cheat and bot providers since 2005 and he can bump himself on the chest all he wants, but in that regard he was not effective one bit. If you would try checking how bot services operated since it stopped being an amateur endeavor and people started trying to make a proper business out of it. Dude's just reliving the glory days telling war stories that half of his audience wouldn't want to check because the other half of his own stories are credible enough.
@gagemead27
@gagemead27 4 ай бұрын
Extremely insightful. I knew there was a reason I subscribed to Thor. Guy hacked power plants for US Gov... That's fricken crazy.
@Rockksz
@Rockksz 4 ай бұрын
Its funny this happens right after the layoffs
@KevBrad19
@KevBrad19 4 ай бұрын
yeah it say Destroyer2009 and R4ndom . Who is this new R4ndom. My theory is ex employee with bad blood working with the cheater
@growingoaks
@growingoaks 4 ай бұрын
Destroyer2009 did an interview a month ago, its possible the disgruntled employee contacted him@@KevBrad19
@user-qw3oh3dx1o
@user-qw3oh3dx1o 4 ай бұрын
@@KevBrad19 it’s probably just one of his friends I really don’t think so lowly of someone who lost their job
@cornbaII
@cornbaII 4 ай бұрын
@@user-qw3oh3dx1o nah dude has so much access in the game it would make more sense if they were actually ex employees. also right after the layoffs lol what a coincidence
@user-qw3oh3dx1o
@user-qw3oh3dx1o 4 ай бұрын
@@cornbaII so should all of those people just be marked unhireable? Thats where your logic is going
@HBTriblexXx
@HBTriblexXx 4 ай бұрын
The first 2 clips in the video was two matches in the ALGS (Apex Legends Global Series = Pro Tournament) and not one match.
@lukehrovat8699
@lukehrovat8699 4 ай бұрын
Respawn has had a history of a poor server protection All of the Titanfall games and Apex has had some challenges with massive security breaches that have brought these games to their knees before could be past employees, a current employee, or just a vulnerability that hasn't been found yet Titanfall and titanfall 2 were rendered unplayable, and then titanfall players hacked apex to draw attention to it (which was also wrong). I'm not surprised this scale of hack is still possible
@jaded-harper
@jaded-harper 4 ай бұрын
thx for the upload fam.
@thisfeatureisstupidxo
@thisfeatureisstupidxo 4 ай бұрын
Super interesting . Wild time for apex . Thanks for the upload
@reptarqt2608
@reptarqt2608 4 ай бұрын
dude Thor is a beast
@growingoaks
@growingoaks 4 ай бұрын
24:30 I think a lot of the issue is also the dumbasses who falsely report you for cheating cuz you're better tbh. The massive amount of false reports waste a LOT of time and that definitely fucks the devs over.
@joukeronex7083
@joukeronex7083 4 ай бұрын
Man thor is such a gem on the streaming communitty , i love this guy talking about anything
@rocdaddy225
@rocdaddy225 4 ай бұрын
Machines are compromised because Hal and the other guy had a DMA CARD with a KM BOX. the hacker exposing these cheaters by literally showing that they are cheating remotely.
@buddhastl7120
@buddhastl7120 4 ай бұрын
How did Zero know Gen was getting hacked before Gen recognized it?
@faded1366
@faded1366 4 ай бұрын
Team chat was getting spammed by hacker
@buddhastl7120
@buddhastl7120 4 ай бұрын
@@faded1366 thanks
@LikeMike7
@LikeMike7 4 ай бұрын
Was the hacker in the game? Playing as a character?
@Snow-db4vp
@Snow-db4vp 4 ай бұрын
With 1.3billion earnd with apex Last year they are not able to fix this how ??
@4everc865
@4everc865 4 ай бұрын
their priority has never been to fix issues but how to earn more lol
@Snow-db4vp
@Snow-db4vp 4 ай бұрын
@@4everc865 i know🤣 Saddly ppl are stupide this would never happend if ppl stopped buying stuff on a free to play game Buying skin for over 100€ i call this addiction
@lqfr8813
@lqfr8813 4 ай бұрын
TLDR: inventing security to detect cheats are expensive, so its cheaper for the company to just keeps banning newly made acc for cheats from players report. this is how respawn has come to the point the cheater hack the most viewed event in ALGS to show that the company doesnt want to do anything on this
@Sllap3R
@Sllap3R 4 ай бұрын
Dud you know Apex font code was brokej last year and a guy was arrester? All started 2 years ago.
@growingoaks
@growingoaks 4 ай бұрын
I watched the "i interviewed a hacker" video and he says he does it for fun and because he sucks but he also said he does it to make developers look harder at their games and improve security. kinda convoluted if true, not sure if he's trying to put a positive spin on it to just deflect tho
@bowlingnades
@bowlingnades 4 ай бұрын
It looks like he accidentally showed his cheat menu and that tried to magnificently play it off....
@bw7754
@bw7754 4 ай бұрын
Hideouts is a professional victim. He put himself in the spotlight and cries anytime he gets criticized, valid or not. Good luck to him.
@amotriuc
@amotriuc 4 ай бұрын
if it has access to servers' side, it might give command to the client to download and install crap. if the client has capability and it probably has for updates and shit.
@scottmatthews6889
@scottmatthews6889 4 ай бұрын
I almost wonder if destroyer2009 was actually an EA employee, and he was just playing around at first, and maybe he was part of the layoffs and decided to mess with the competition out of spite.
@Twitchsucks2
@Twitchsucks2 4 ай бұрын
I know Thor has a soft spot for his fellow anti cheat people but respawn and ea do not care. They don't think the cheating problem is losing them enough money so they don't care. Maybe this will help a little bit, idk
@butterphli3z
@butterphli3z 4 ай бұрын
me laughing my head off at 26:00 when he's talking about working with the devs when i just got off my 10 day suspension after I reported bots in shimmering flats (wow classic sod) and was telling people in general chat to do the same if they saw them only to be hit with an automated ban one hour later(because the bot owner saw my comments and instantly reported me with 50+ accounts they use). i'd like to think the developers are on my side but frankly when it NEVER feels like they are and they do stupid shit like that WHY THE FUCK WOULD I the idea that im supposed to sympathize with these people because they are also human has nothing to do with the fact that i paid for a product and i expect it to be what I paid for or i'm going to fucking leave, bozos. so work harder or we leave, it's pretty simply really.. welcome to reality.
@sozial6951
@sozial6951 4 ай бұрын
If it is the case that a developer pc got compromised , id has to be hideouts that would be so ironic lol
@shawnaware894
@shawnaware894 4 ай бұрын
Someone with authority share this with ea and respawn so Hal can get is account back… I trust this guy more than anything else on the media about the situation
@Eazy_Bruh
@Eazy_Bruh 4 ай бұрын
I wish I knew and could do the things these people do. It’s literally magic. Just crazy to me lol. I’m not saying I want to cheat, being able to do what this guy is doing is VERY rare. I wonder how long this will happen, I also wonder if they’re gonna go after the kid who is hacking in the first place. Make an example out of him, who cares if he’s underage. He’s costing these companies millions probably lol
@Zamblinger
@Zamblinger 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't doubt that the Source engine is compromised, it makes sense since CS is full of cheaters as well, pretty much worse or on par with Apex. However, Valve probably has a better system for payment and financial information.
@Sllap3R
@Sllap3R 4 ай бұрын
There is a plus, korean league of Legends league is beying hacked as well. They are playing off line matches, untill they coukd fix ddoS ahenever they start the servers to compete.
@Guwop13
@Guwop13 4 ай бұрын
Dudes resume is GODLY
@Sakhan9969
@Sakhan9969 4 ай бұрын
Nah, fairly average for cybersec. You always end up in government if you're half-decent.
@sturenorth
@sturenorth 4 ай бұрын
So happy it was with Mande he conversed with, even though Mande aint no IT braniac, he is astute and converses with people, not talking at them. GG Mande! GG PirateSoftware Thor!
@Heliomun
@Heliomun 4 ай бұрын
there was some guy going around streamers chats, like 30-300 viewer streamers who have pred ranked accounts, and warning them that EAC had a very exploitable bug or sumn back in october december; and that they could inject whatever into your pc and take over your account by simply being your friend in game and/or being in your lobby. he would try to prove he was being serious by botting thousands of followers to these streamers. but everyone i knew just laughed him off and took his follower botting as him just being a troll and buying bots to mess with them. also because he talked like a madman schizo edgelord when questioned saying real weird stuff. now i wonder if hes one of the people behind this whole stunt now.
@theodoregriffin9812
@theodoregriffin9812 4 ай бұрын
Bro what if it was through R5??
@elimgarak1127
@elimgarak1127 4 ай бұрын
His statement might have been correct but hideouts is absolutely bad at his job...Or everything around him is not functional so the end result is poor service. The evidence is abundant. A carpenter doesn't blame his hammer. So, we have two options left. The carpenter is a moron, or the foreman is a bigger moron you continue to do poor work for because that's what they expect.
@meerbonbon1233
@meerbonbon1233 4 ай бұрын
only 360p
@Gottemgotty
@Gottemgotty 4 ай бұрын
when videos are just uploaded they will be set to 360p until KZfaq fully imports the video to there website. as you can see it goes up to 2160p now. or your PC is just stupid lol
@Twitchsucks2
@Twitchsucks2 4 ай бұрын
Apex isn't that important to me, I would rather not even risk it. I deleted it off my pc and will not play it until respawn says they've fixed it or something
@Twitchsucks2
@Twitchsucks2 4 ай бұрын
Hideouts is a whine ass, he is unable to take criticism in any way and always says snarky stuff on Twitter instead of actually communicating. He spends most of his banning random players that kill the popular streamers. They can't just communicate like adults. I really don't think they care very much about the player base. They've done nothing to show they care, ever
@ed04ruthy
@ed04ruthy 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't Thor have any podcasts that talk about cybersecurity and cheaters? Geez I've learned soo much from him between Mande and how cheaters should be getting stomped with those banwaves. This is really interesting stuff...
@falkiiii030
@falkiiii030 4 ай бұрын
I like how helldivers 2 is running in the back all the time xD I went there from apex, too. Much more fun.
@drewtrafelet8840
@drewtrafelet8840 4 ай бұрын
It's very cool seeing Thor's galaxy brain operating in real time
@komalthecoolk
@komalthecoolk 4 ай бұрын
Trust me guys, spend these 37 minutes on your studies or your career or your health and invest in yourself for a better future. Let EA waste their time on fixing this issue and then you can come back to play the game.
@BobbyBlancoGaming
@BobbyBlancoGaming 4 ай бұрын
I’m viewing while working so bam check mate
@SKOOBINGTON
@SKOOBINGTON 4 ай бұрын
Compromised employee.
@kwonderland89
@kwonderland89 4 ай бұрын
what does compromised machine mean?
@lycanph
@lycanph 4 ай бұрын
It means that the Destroyer2009 somehow got access inside ImperialHal or Genburtens computer
@kwonderland89
@kwonderland89 4 ай бұрын
Aight cheers@@lycanph
@AdorablePeach23
@AdorablePeach23 4 ай бұрын
​@@lycanph Vote Putin 🪆
@DoonaGlows
@DoonaGlows 4 ай бұрын
This was actually informative and an eye opener WoW
@slotmakinesi4967
@slotmakinesi4967 4 ай бұрын
As i know about Valorant. Riot has anti cheating politics in valorant beginning from day 0. They promoted the game without a name yet but said they worked on anti cheat from the beginning.
@SuldSin
@SuldSin 4 ай бұрын
what rce
@lycanph
@lycanph 4 ай бұрын
Remote Code Execution
@officialghosty4207
@officialghosty4207 4 ай бұрын
"Say something im giving up on you " Apex player base too ea lol
@donce199
@donce199 4 ай бұрын
cs2 premium cost 15 euro and still tons of cheaters ..
@TheBlink247
@TheBlink247 4 ай бұрын
What a god.Imagine if people like that worked behind the scenes in Apex
@TheDrhappyhat
@TheDrhappyhat 4 ай бұрын
How do you know there isn’t already?
@TheBlink247
@TheBlink247 4 ай бұрын
@@TheDrhappyhat Cuz we get 0 updates.Dude doesnt even work on apex cleared out more air than any people that do for the past 5 years.
@MrJustin1m
@MrJustin1m 4 ай бұрын
@@TheBlink247Thor speaks about why they may not be able to speak about it, financial implications, judiciary, and also a responsibility to the share holders( i know how stupid that sounds but as an EA employee they have to obey that)
@TheBlink247
@TheBlink247 4 ай бұрын
@@MrJustin1m He also speaks about that saying atleast something is a must. To atleast tell people that they are aware or and are working on the issues. Do you just pick out what you want to hear or how does it work?
@MrJustin1m
@MrJustin1m 4 ай бұрын
@@TheBlink247I think employment and legal responsibility outweighs what a dev who doesnt work for that company says. Just because he says he would address it and thinks they should, doesnt mean they can legally.
@archangelgaming8077
@archangelgaming8077 4 ай бұрын
jusr because he didnt attack more than 2 doesnt mean its not rce
@thew1ngman
@thew1ngman 4 ай бұрын
He didn't say that. He said the "evidence" doesn't point to it being RCE. Ultimately his viewpoint was that they should wait for more information from the investigation. Stop being a smoothbrain.
@AutisticWimpyKid
@AutisticWimpyKid 4 ай бұрын
Okay cyber security expert 😂
@skilifavas4016
@skilifavas4016 4 ай бұрын
Btw Genburten shot 2 arrows at a guy at which he wasn't aiming at across the map and mistook his kill for the one he was aiming at ( which was a team seeking cover ) right before this clip. I'm proud I had the exact same reaction ( the computer is compromised ) because they are streamers with thousands of viewers daily. The top of apex streaming
@MrJustin1m
@MrJustin1m 4 ай бұрын
keep watching he walks that back that he believes its more likely that its its a compromised employee pc or server access
@divAPEX
@divAPEX 4 ай бұрын
All hideouts has to do is at least be more transparent. just show us the numbers! I'm in a private cord that shows all master/pred bans. i see the numbers, I see his work. then why the hell not publically post it? Show people that you're doing your job instead of only posting your EDM music
@bw7754
@bw7754 4 ай бұрын
He’s banning the same 100 people over and over and over again for those Pred accounts. He’s doing nothing lol congrats, takes 5 seconds to buy a new account and start again.
@Gottemgotty
@Gottemgotty 4 ай бұрын
This is straight up content theft lol
@slotmakinesi4967
@slotmakinesi4967 4 ай бұрын
İ watched 2 videos of thor explain and talk about but i now see the whole content. Stealing doesnt including exclusivity
@Heliomun
@Heliomun 4 ай бұрын
feel like if thor knew how terrible apex's banning style is hed be dumbfounded man lmao. just three dudes manually banning damn near undetectable cheats and reviewing thousands upon thousands of players a day.
@gurren2727
@gurren2727 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Gen, because the haters even knowing it wasn’t him would definitely still bash him for that
@-dmm
@-dmm 4 ай бұрын
don't think he gets it. This hacker is some imperial hal fanboy. He's only gonna target him and then probably extremely high profile people or people that have stream status. It's most likely in Apex.
@henilpatel8865
@henilpatel8865 4 ай бұрын
dont log into apex, i did last night and got 177 threats. took 4 hours to remove everything
@noblent3710
@noblent3710 4 ай бұрын
jesus
@aidenstumme
@aidenstumme 4 ай бұрын
Someone didn’t watch the video lmao
@henilpatel8865
@henilpatel8865 4 ай бұрын
@@aidenstumme I did lol. I got video proof
@mattlai443
@mattlai443 4 ай бұрын
@@henilpatel8865 doubt that
@nathan4351
@nathan4351 4 ай бұрын
@@henilpatel8865 show it then
@rpolee9035
@rpolee9035 4 ай бұрын
Well if they find him/her its of to jail and he or she will have to pay damages to EA which will ruin his/her life for ever so i hope its worth the laugh he/she is getting right now. The smart thing right now is to inform EA give them the backdoor and perhaps get some money. well if the hacker is russian no problem offcourse !!
@bw7754
@bw7754 4 ай бұрын
He’s laughing at you in Belarus rn 😂 he’s not sweating getting caught. OPSEC kicking in.
@rpolee9035
@rpolee9035 4 ай бұрын
No living in balarus is no fun and if he is in russia he will probably go to the front in a few weeks !!@@bw7754
@ArtemisTGM
@ArtemisTGM 4 ай бұрын
Are people dumb? Way too much overthinking this is obviously one of the employees that got laid off probly a few of them 😅
@BackBoneKill
@BackBoneKill 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like apex gotta hire that hacker to upgrade there security lol
@MR-TYLENOLJONES
@MR-TYLENOLJONES 4 ай бұрын
Me and kinfolk were playing last night on PS5 and the dallas server was going fucking nuts. Every 5 seconds i could get a hardcore rubberband or I would just skip 10 feet ahead. The 3 icons in the top right corner were almost permanent on screen it would disappear for a second then stay for the duration of the game. Can anyone explain this? I have 2.5k hours in apex and yes things have been shitty before but never this shitty.
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