The worst so far 😅

Lol. You feeling ok Ryan? You sounded a little sick in the video.

Agree, it’s decent, it will almost always be decent as long as it’s a battlepack. But they did slack off on some parts

Def this one im so disappointed by the Vaughn I hope mabey someday we get him in a non battle pack set and with proper care

@@Anonymous2.2 I am indeed sick lol

Hey don’t give them any ideas, they might remove those too

​@@80Bucksprinted jetpacks 💀

@@notanfbiagent6835 They already print the smaller rounded type jetpacks and backpacks

Also people have been asking for holes in the phase two helmets for ages, and then Lego is like 'OK sure' And then everyones like: 😤

@@GH0ST2166also nobody asked

Ye

We really need one

True

Yes god please

Big crab droid, destroyer, 2 supers, 2 security and 1 pilot

Honestly prefer how he looks because of that

@shorelord1175 yeah true, I'm not going to complain too much. I wish the helmets were the old style, but I'll take them all matching and looking uniform

if there was some way to precisely remove that area of the print then he would be identical

Indeed, if people really do want accuracy they can just hit a CAC or other third party store to get a more accurate figure of Vaughn. Even with the visor he can be passed off as a generic sergeant or other high ranking officer. I believe that this is the approach Lego should take going forward with clone BPs. It achieves the best of both worlds by allowing collectors to army build and hardcore clone fans to have an appropriately adequate figure of a named, notable character.

Exactly. I don’t get the complaints about Vaughn.

That’s literally what I want :)

@@MandRproductions let's just hope they learn this now and fix it rather than not and spend 5+ more years doing the same mistake only to fix it at the last second.. oh god

Or maybe they couldve repositioned the hole in the correct position, it wouldn't affect the rangefinder piece, the binoculars piece is new so they couldve made it the correct position / median position between p1 & p2 helmet hole height, and they should make a new piece for the visor, as the one we have is too outdated imo, it's a relic from when pauldrons and waistcapes were plastic piece, it's too blocky, and we should get a thinner, slicker visor piece imo

​@themelon_1785 The helmet holes are placed accurately for the visors, which go above the little ear covers, and if Lego put the holes in those ear covers, then the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with Phase 1 helmets, which would be stupid.

@@themelon_1785 true my friend very true

Yup, only downside is that buying mega is kinda hard if you’re not American

I absolutely agree nick. As a mega and Lego fan it's insane how the tables have turned. Mandr should make a video on this topic of mega and Lego now or in a form of ask mandr.

That's probably because MEGA makes their sets in smaller quantities than Lego does and also has a slightly more niche community, whereas Lego makes absolutely massive quantities of sets that are distributed all over the globe and has a much larger fanbase.

@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 actually it’s because Mattel doesn’t care that much about mega

Yeah Mega tends to be very open with their community compared to LEGO. With their recent fan vote the designer just shows off prototypes which is something LEGO rarely does.

I wish that too, but LEGO is a business and mainly does only what makes them profit. If consumers (us) by the lower quality product they will continue to produce products of the lower quality because they are still making a profit. They won't change unless us consumers as a whole decide to stop buying their product until they put in the effort that should be given to begin with.

Someday for sure !

They liked the money from the 1st 501st battlepack, made another one and a variant

For real next should be one based on the bad batch but without helmet holes just regular clone troopers no heavy no officer

Boys want more clones Men want separatist droids Legends want mimban stormtroopers

​@Pegasus_Gr I would actually hope that, if they do make a plain white clone battle pack, that at least one of the clones has helmet holes so I can have a plain clone with macrobinoculars or a visor.

​@@apparentlyjeremy Totally, I remember a few years ago there was a rumor of a Mimban battle pack which, I guess, turned out to be nothing more than a rumor.

2 SBDs, a magnaguard and a commando droid would be pretty cool, maybe 2 commandos since droids are cheaper for them to produce.

Just remake the og 2007 one. 3 b2s and 4 or 5 b1s. Personally I would have 2 B2s, 5 B1s and a owner or security droid. Builds would be a spider droid, droideka and a small carrier.

@@RichardMontgomeryYTI’d rather have 2 different packs, one for special units and one for normal ones: Special unit one having 3 B2’s, 1 droideka and 3 Commandos (2 normal ones and a captain commando). And a normal unit one having 2 B1 security, 2 B1 pilot, 2 B1 camouflage and 2 B1 officers (ik it might be too much to ask but B1 units are REALLY cheap to make when compared to figs and they usually add them everywhere so making a battlepack won’t cost as much as making completely new things)

At this point, I'd even take a battle pack of nothing but clones and B1s. Some kind of little 4 piece turret thing so Lego can fulfill their contractual obligation to not sell only SW minifigures, and 3 or 4 clones and 3 or 4 droids.

@@SergeiMosin make ‘em white phase 2 clones and I’ll be happy.

yeah Agreed and while I also dont think the solution is perfect its not as much of an issue as mainly this community hear makes it out to be, the hate they get elsewhere is far less compared to his videos tbh

It isn't the holes we are annoyed at, it's the location. There are now 2 sets of holes/bumps and it just looks sub par.

I agree with you, the helmet hole issue is ridiculous and has been talked to death. I get not liking or liking the holes depending on what you want the set for, I don't mind the holes that much, they look kinda off but they don't ruin the set for me.

@@RichardMontgomeryYT I'm afraid I do not understand, if there was only one hole you can't put a visor on, you can only use a range finder. I feel more people would be angry if lego did that.

@@Garinovitchyes obviously but they could have one clone with one helmet hole for rangefinder and the rest has 2 holes. Like in the 501st specialist battle pack the officer should have had one helmet hole

Lol

It’s like 25-29 in Canada

That’s because the value of the pound has dropped

Here in sweden it will cost 14.99 dollars

I’m still gonna pick up at least two of these sets since I need as MANY clones as I can get for an upcoming project I’m working on

Yes

Do you know anything about the history of Battle Packs? It’s obviously a downside (or can at least be perceived as such).

@@MandRproductionsI understand LEGO said that a battle pack is a army builder, but again a vast majority of people buying those sets can’t even afford to build armies of clones. LEGO cares more about the 12 year old asking their mom to buy a 1 off set first and foremost and they always will.

​@@GrunkBricksand that is a good thing, in my opinion.

I think the whole notion of Lego Star wars, or even Lego itself, being intended purely for children is silly. Generally, Lego seeks to satisfy both the older and younger consumer groups. The battle packs, while having, like you said, the function of being merely a "cheap set to play with" (as evidenced by the more childish build included), they also serve as a means through which the older consumer, who has the funds necessary, can buy multiple of them and create armies or large groups of them, after all, by the source material, these are army troopers. It's the same with microfighters, a kid gets a silly little build they can swoosh around, a collector gets a desirable character in a cheap set. I genuinely believe they have two intended purposes and this is financially beneficial for the company. I think you are wrong to dismiss a critique from the adult consumer side by saying it's just a toy meant for little kids, as that's not true.

@@user-fg3dz5kv7q i never said its only for little kids, but it is intended for them. the box says 6+, which doesnt mean that adults cant buy it and collect it, but does mean that it is targeted towards kids. helmet holes, while they may look ugly to some, are meant for kids to play with and customize clone troopers, not for adults to criticize. it is likely partly lazy work on legos end, but critiquing it as much as it gets critiqued is not deserved. it is a play function and works as such. no one else complains about stud shooters or flickfire missiles, even though they look ugly. thats because its clearly meant for kids to play with.

@@monstrblood6682 I know what you said, and I made a lengthy response explaining why it's targeted both towards younger and older consumers. Most people complain about stud shooters and flickfire missiles - if they're not properly implemented and it harms the overall look. You're wrong again. They had stud shooters at one point that minifigures could hold as blasters. I imagine you think that's a great play function for kids, however guess what, they removed them because it looked atrocious.

@@user-fg3dz5kv7q theres literally stud shooters on the ahsoka clone trooper battle pack speeder 💀

@@monstrblood6682 Great observation Mr. Skull emoji. I don't think they're particularly improperly implemented (now that's a tongue twister) but whatever. More importantly that's the part of the set that serves the purpose of satisfying the younger consumer base. An adult doesn't need an army of speeders or other goofy looking builds they've come up with for these, but they're there for the kid that gets a cheap set to play with, like you said. A kid doesn't need the helmet holes to be filled, but it should be there as it was in the past so that it is not off putting to the older collector who will get multiple of these. Lego doesn't want to make the figures more customizable for children, they want to save money by reusing the same mold.

They’ll be like 2,000$ in 10 years lmao

It’s a battle pack dude, 90% of the battle pack vehicles don’t even exist in the movies/shows, let alone being accurate to the scene

Really dude it’s a battle pack. Grow up

@@shorelord1175”only the best is good enough”

@@Cmmdre977 What? I can't think of a single battle pack including a vehicole that doesn't exist except for the old Empire one

​@@Funkiotologistthen why tf do you buy one if it isnt good enough💀

Well I think you're missing the point, that's what people are annoyed at. Why make a vaughn if it really doesn't look like vaughn? They need to just make their minds up.

​@@voidstudios7460 Just use him as a sergeant, then. There's one sergeant for every nine clone troopers because that's how GAR squads are set up.

So true

I wouldn't say that lego clearly wants to have the new clone helmet be the default

They’re still better, I doubt it dips much

Exactly. This set and the other 501st battle pack being on store shelves at the same time is perfect because it allows people to mix and match parts to make regular 501st troopers and 332nd specialists.

And yet they still couldn’t bother… “easy” ain’t easy in Denmark.

Luckily I have the excess dark red visors from the old Elite Clone Battle Pack. I may improve Vaughn a little. Unfortunately LEGO has really done a terrible job this time and I find embarrassing how some people keep justifying it.

"as long as it doesn’t compromise the printing" But it does... and they have shown they will never fix it.

​@@MandRproductionsyou can replace the capitan voughnon torso with a regular 501st torso

@@Kermittheballer187what does that have to do with the helmet?

@@Kermittheballer187And then you'll have a clone with the wrong torso, Vaugn just has no place in a battlepack

​@MandRproductions It really hasn't, except for the 212th troopers. All of the other clones we've gotten that have the holes look perfectly fine printing wise.

It's because they're above where they should be and create a double helmet hole look.

Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.

​@@TheFirstCurse1The helmet holes are exactly where they need to be for the visors, which attach to clone helmets ABOVE the ear covers.

I'm not gonna be collecting more than 1 of these to armybuild, bc ive already done it with the normal 501st, but if i were to, id just get a cutter and scrape off the rank plaque to make "Vaughn" into a normal 332 trooper, since fortunately and unfortunately, the only difference between Vaghnuhgj and the others is the plaque

@@themelon_1785 Just switch his body out with a normal trooper’s helmet. Make a standard 501st captain and get a standard 332nd trooper.

You think it’s that bad $20 hmm? In Australia, lego has not listed the set on their site, and I checked another store which has it on pre order. The set IS $43, which converted to US is $29 which is absolute garbage! Obviously it is the Australian equivalent of the $27 price point originally rumoured. So we have to live with a $43 battle pack in Australia. I’m gonna leave a review about it and saying that it is a better value army building stormtrooper mechs than this piece of trash. I am gonna rally behind getting this set’s price changed to the $33 price point in australia

@@MrSamperi24 That is an abysmal price point! I have heard of the horrors of LEGO pricing and availability in Australia and it pains me to hear that 😥

That price alone is scary, but comparing it to other sets such as the tie bomber, it is half the price 💀 So essentially, buying 2 of them is the same price as the tie bomber

@@MrSamperi24 It's the world we live in now 🥲 prices are as they are. I think critiquing the quality is fair game for sure

​@@MrSamperi24I feel you man, the uk price got upped to £18.99 which is about $25. Not as bad as Australia but for a terrible build and mediocre minifigures it's just so dissapointing. Another set I'm annoyed about it the republic fighter tank. I want cool purple clones but ots a retailer exclusive set in the UK and it costs £40. It also costs $40 dollars USA even though £40 equals ~$51

Unfortunately.

Literally yes. The thing I didn't like a year ago with solid visual reasoning that anyone can see, continues to have the same issue and hence I will continue to dislike and recommend people not waste their hard-earned money on the sub-par product.

I might just buy extra torso pieces for the regular 332nd and swap them with Vaughan's.

AI is here

Lol he's ill it's not AI

They don't get better over time. They sucked a year ago, they suck today, they'll suck next year. This is a REVIEW, not an AD. If you want an ad for this set I can point you in that direction my guy.

​@@MandRproductionsyour the reason why lego doesn't doesn't make the sets great you just Diminish them and make then not want to do a good job you just always complain about everything even if they do something right

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@gabesedits5424 is giving an honest review. I don’t see how that would cause Lego want to make bad sets😂. He complains about major issues that you seem to be ok with. Also, he did say some good stuff about the build, not everything was complained about.

@@MandRproductions”they sucked a year ago, they sucked today, they’ll suck next year” yet you’ll continue buying them making army builds. every “review” i see of yours is just you complaining even if the set is good.

@@gabesedits5424 You are a silly goose.

We get that, it's just if you're gonna make captain Vaughan at least make it look like him. If not then don't bother.

Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.

You mean the better looking version? Stop being toxic.

Hey its basic economics, you buy 1 for $20, I buy 3 for $20 (+ the captain). Who got the better value?

A set that came out in 2014AD

Objectively wrong. Have you seen the prints on these clones? Guess what caused them to be so awful.

@@MandRproductionsthey look like poop. Idk why they couldn’t keep it the same as the aat. Unnecessary and it made it worse.

@@MandRproductions man child complains over a kids toy not being identical to the reference material. Helmet holes means I can make any clone I want into a commander or have other accessories, its better for kids and people who want to be creative with their minifigs. Go buy action figures if you want accurate clones

@@iaminyourballs Lego is a premium product. "Only the best is good enough" is their motto for a reason. You're riding their d's way too hard. If Lego want's to make a less accurate product, us consumers should pay less.

​@dvrmaa I agree, I like the new helmet holes because they allow me to put those nice new macrobinoculars on any clone I want, which is great because I can now accurately make Umbara with 212th and 501st using macros.

LoL. Rather lazy just like you.

The helmets look less accurate and hence worse than before (not to mention the prints). It is objective. Compare to source material.

It’s always been a bunch of idiots defending a billion dollar company on a false pretense. It’s not just a kids toy but that’s besides the point when you take 30 seconds to do any research into LEGO’s history, statements, and other “toy” brand qualities.

Or you know, just not Include such a inaccurate mini figure and replace him with a 4th regular 332nd trooper.