Manipur Crisis Explained by Dr. Bhagat Oinam

Manipur Crisis Explained by Dr. Bhagat Oinam | Abhijit Chavda Podcast 67

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Dr. Bhagat Oinam is professor and Chairperson, Centre for Philosophy, School of Social Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. He is also the Chairperson, Special Centre for the Study of North East India at JNU.
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In this video, we talk about the the intricate cultural tapestry and complex history of Manipur in this insightful video. From its origins shaped by trade and religion to its evolution through tribal merging, Manipur's journey is a captivating tale of resilience and struggle. Learn about the rich diversity fostered by intra-clan marriages and the influences of groups like the 'Kukis' on Manipuri identity.
We discuss the tumultuous past of the region marked by British interference and the subsequent loss of sovereignty to the Indian Dominion. Explore the roots of insurgency and the ongoing struggle for territorial sovereignty, including the emergence of armed groups like the Manipur National Front Liberation (MNFL) and the Nagas' quest for autonomy.
The conversation moves into the socio-political issues facing Manipur, including tax disputes with the Kukis, influx of migrants, and the impact of the Myanmar crisis. Understand the demand for Scheduled Tribe Status and the unrest fueled by armed groups, alongside environmental challenges such as deforestation.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction
01:15 - Manipur's current situation
07:42 - Cultural complexity shaped by trade and religion
10:17 - Evolution through tribal merging
15:35 - Intra-Clan Marriages and Diversity
17:58 - Origins and influences of 'Kukis'
22:35 - Group identity and political struggle
24:56 - Chin minorities seeking independence
29:08 - Loss of sovereignty to Burmese conquest
31:19 - British interference and treaty impacts
35:53 - British control post-1891
38:08 - Division of governance by the British
42:56 - Loss of independence to Indian Dominion
45:10 - British impact on indigenous culture
49:29 - Issues faced by tribal communities
51:58 - Insurgency and MNFL origins
56:37 - Nagas' sovereignty struggle
58:46 - Manipur's insurgency roots
1:03:44 - MNFL's transition to armed group
1:06:20 - Nagas' territorial expansion
1:11:35 - Emergence of Manipur's insurgency
1:14:09 - Fear of territorial loss
1:18:35 - Syncretic cultural traditions
1:20:46 - Tax disputes with Kukis
1:25:07 - State presence to stop unwanted elements
1:27:24 - Influx of migrants into Manipur
1:31:38 - Suspension of operations and ceasefire
1:33:53 - Ceasefire agreement and migration
1:38:24 - Connivance between Kukis
1:40:48 - Meitei conversion to Christianity
1:45:27 - Deforestation and Manipur crisis
1:48:00 - Demand for Scheduled Tribe Status
1:52:47 - Unrest due to armed groups
1:55:14 - Myanmar crisis impact
1:59:31 - Addressing indigenous justice
2:01:50 - Need for negotiation and dialogue
2:04:30 - End
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@ManipuriChanura 2 ай бұрын

Dr. Bhagat Oinam , Dr. Bimol Akoijam are an inspiration for many... Huge Respect 👍👍👍

@bijenchongtham 2 ай бұрын

How thadou merge to meetei ..kuki are came 18 century ..si gumba mathong maram khangdaba professor sida respect tourininey ...meetei da ningthouja clan letei... Santida gosaina pokpa macha masu sing masana masa ningthouney haibani ..like RK kangbu.. history pao .

@sushantarajkum1703 2 ай бұрын

@@bijenchongthamHistory gi book khara recommend tourako, somna hairiba mayamsi yaoba aeisu pajage. Panghai haijanbdi touraknu. Mangang se yam chaowi, mangang gi manungdani Ningthouja dynasty leiribse. Ningthouja dynasty dagi sagei mayam thoklakae. Eg Ningthoujam, Mantrimayum etc Chatnabida Meitei Ningthou gi yumnak hapnaramde, 19 century dagi official treaty paperwork singda Rajkumar title oeina sijinba houkhi. Rajkumar di title ne ngasina yumnak ka equivalent oeina sijinbne. Hunpung Tangkhul gi ningthou su yumnak leite, aduna meitei ningthou ga machil manaoni hairibni. Ningthou fambal kabada tangkhul fina kuplaga karibse somgi sasinba history na kakpa ngamloi. Wari machet ama khnglaga oja sabana yaroi, tathok tasin tounasi.

@sushantarajkum1703 2 ай бұрын

@@bijenchongthamoja Bharat na haibse achumbni. Kuki haina puya da thengnaroi,khongjai eramni, kuki majority 90% di 1840 matung chnglakpni. Meitei da khagi(yunan chinese) merge toukhi, khagisingna thong nambolbi sarame. Meiteida chakpa merge toukhi, chakpa-andro, chakpa-phayeng, chakpa-sekmai etc. Meiteida brahmin merge toukhi, bamol oeikhi. Meitei ta kshetri merge toukhi, kshetrimayum oeikhi. Meitei da Thadou-singson khara merge toukhi, Sougaijam oeikhi. Masi hai haiduna chinese, mayang, kuki loina meitei ni haiba yaba nate, mari leinarami haibatni, artha lanna hanbiganu.

@dhumleokram Ай бұрын

@@bijenchongtham keino nang ngangiduna. bhagat oinamdi historian su nattage. subject to correction haise tadro. yamna khangladi challenge touna. Manipur history phajana kana eege loinamak controversial ngakta. Meitei macha ayamba little knowledge ta yam marei yetle.

@tlamfiinahsptgpoumai4399 Ай бұрын

I think you are not meitei because you don't know about the history of manipur.

@GB_track 2 ай бұрын

Well a manipuri person can only explain manipuri crisis with ground realities.

@kingkongjapaneseblade 2 ай бұрын

he is not chinese rt

@fuyoutube854 2 ай бұрын

@@kingkongjapanesebladehe's a leftist liberal 😮😅😊

@Bulletproof_scout 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@kingkongjapanesebladeyou’re not Indian rt?

@RickyAhongsangbam-uj5rt 2 ай бұрын

@@Bulletproof_scout he's from Myanmar. Entered India illegally, let's send him back to Myanmar and hand over to the Junta! Jai hind!

@ggainireirongmei8109 2 ай бұрын

1¹¹¹ @@kingkongjapaneseblade

@rezar9908 2 ай бұрын

only You sir Abhijit Chavda… only you Sir seem to actively and genuinely care and pay interest to the situation in Manipur! Ty Sir

@ranjanmoirangcha9906 2 ай бұрын

A true indigenous people can only tell you the real history of Manipur..Well said...These are all facts..👍

@deepenjangpangi4874 2 ай бұрын

We always hear the the manipur issue from leftist point of view but a native member talk about this issue will tell the ground reality ,I hope peace comes to this beautiful land and meitei and kuki solve this issue and government put illegal immigrants back to myanmar

@Narutogujjar 2 ай бұрын

Bhai uttarakhand se ho na

@deepenjangpangi4874 2 ай бұрын

@@Narutogujjar haan bhai

@fuyoutube854 2 ай бұрын

@@agentsmith_but the non indigenous original Jews kukis should be sent back to Israel or resettle them elsewhere for instance Gujarat, Uttar Pradesh, etc

@Kellybelly915 28 күн бұрын

Until and unless kuki realised their fault that bringing in refugees to expand their political and integral power will only backfire and create more confusion even among their so-called 'kuki umbrella', normalcy and peace in Manipur seems far from present

@user-lm3wp7or9v 2 ай бұрын

I am a Meetei Dear Professor, we are ok with the truth whether it favour meetei or any other. It doesn't matter, Truth should be truth only thats the value we carry on our back.

@tysonmissile5104 2 ай бұрын

Some say Meetei & some say Meitei, why’s that?

@lamyanbasingha9040 2 ай бұрын

@@tysonmissile5104 it's the same Meitei/Meetei

@lipokyanger7685 2 ай бұрын

The truth don't favour any side. It's about how both sides react and respond to the truth. If truth truly did prevail, the conflict would've ended a long time back. But the conflict carries on because both sides are not satisfied with the truth and want to create their own desired outcomes. That's how every conflict escalates similarly everywhere. Israel-Palestine is in the same predicament. We're at a point where the truth has become blurred. Both sides got blood on their hands, which is why the hatred and fighting never ends.

@girijarajkumari1402 14 күн бұрын

@lamyanbasingha904😊0

@Perfecto2323 5 күн бұрын

@@lamyanbasingha9040 @lamyanbasingha9040 religiously ethnic wise it should be Meetei cuz in Meetei it includes all 7 clans but in Meitei it only represent Mangang clan. As Mangang clan used to rule Kangleipak we used Meitei

@paullytical 2 ай бұрын

As a mainlander, this has been quite eye opening. Politics aside, it seems the govt has failed to understand the north east as a whole. I appreciate Dr. Bhagat's opinion (especially recognising his own biases). And as a dilliwallah, i think it is time that the national narrative shifts from a delhi centric approach. Great job Abhijit, I've watched a couple of episodes and I like how you allow your guest to talk uninterrupted just guiding them along.

@sangitachowdhury-cj2bk 2 ай бұрын

Its an Honour to be the Part of this Podcast...Special thanks to Dr.Bhagat Oinam...

@NaoremRuhidasSingh-kv8cl 2 ай бұрын

Professor Bhagat is highly respected, known for his kindness and exceptional intellectual prowess.

@ChrisWrenthlei Ай бұрын

Dont blame Christians instead blame the PM and Amit Shah for not giving importance to the matter. Otherwise, had they intervened 11 months back, everything would have been solved. Lack of political will..Thats it! No need to divide anyone further...PM and Home Minister should speak up on the matter

@lol-gh8yn 2 ай бұрын

A big salute to Abhijit Sir.. when the mainstream indian Godi Media is ignoring us, you are the voice of the true Manipuri People

@leokatetribute6860 2 ай бұрын

Great 😢 if you need any financial support pls contact me 😊

@bharatavarsha10k 2 ай бұрын

A native Meitei should speak on this matter as it happened now! Not the left wing "Liberal-Independent-Democratic-Socialist Media persons".

@mysterious_billionaire 2 ай бұрын

Is the person speaking meitei or left wing?

@lautheimpaler4686 2 ай бұрын

@@mysterious_billionaire One can be both

@ranjanalongjam 2 ай бұрын

The person speaking is a Hindu bhakt, not left wing 😅but a right wing and a professor in Delhi who knows Manipuri history very well .😂😂😂😂😂y@@mysterious_billionaire

@arjyachatterjee6874 2 ай бұрын

@@ranjanalongjam Yes hard facts seem to be Hindu bhakti at you, average libtard.

@udhsjvf 2 ай бұрын

@@ranjanalongjam hindu bhakt? The heck is this word don't drag religion into this topic where it is unnecessary

@LaiPok-lt8pb 2 ай бұрын

Sir, Abhijit Chavda... I personally have no words to thanks for exposing the truth in everything.... ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@nilakantasharma5030 2 ай бұрын

Respect to you Sir Long Live Abhijit Chavda Sharing the Truth of Manipur crisis I am From Assam

@ikshvaku_1976 2 ай бұрын

Movies should be made on such historical events dammmm this way rest of India and World will be able to know the Manipur with more depth

@Luwangli 2 ай бұрын

Suggestions have been made to include the northeast history in school books but not much has been done. Very unfortunate

@ikshvaku_1976 2 ай бұрын

@@Luwanglithis becomes another reason for our brothers and sisters from far east of country to hate us and feel secluded from the rest of the country 🤦

@niteshnishad6191 2 ай бұрын

@@LuwangliMany previous Governments kept north east India isolated now China is claiming Arunachal Pradesh is theirs.

@techtalkie8083 2 ай бұрын

Dr Bhagat Oinam spitting every real truth salute sir 🫡

@ngasambabusahebsing2770 2 ай бұрын

Ya manipuri person can express ground reality of Manipur lets us support oja bimol kojam and thank to oja Oinam baggat for expressing the reality of manipur

@aditibhardwaj8790 2 ай бұрын

I have searched this issue thousands of times on various websites but I couldn't find unbiased real issues related information. Almost every video shows Emotional drama but I wanted to know the core issues. Thank you soooooo much 100 times for sharing this video

@punitgurumayum 2 ай бұрын

Please listen a discussion with professor bimol ..you will know more details

@Kkchps 2 ай бұрын

How can you differentiate which is real and which is drama. It's only a choice of which side you want to believe. There is literally hundreds of manipuri conflict videos which were circulated in social media.

@aditibhardwaj8790 2 ай бұрын

@@Kkchps yeah. So??

@aditibhardwaj8790 2 ай бұрын

@@Kkchps yeah, so? What's your problem?

@punitgurumayum 2 ай бұрын

@@Kkchps you ll find the recorded history history which can't be modified

@srinjoyroy8023 2 ай бұрын

Well Explained, North East India's development is going to be crucial in the entire country's forward movement towards becoming a global superior. I had stayed in Manipur for quite a long time and I can vouch for most of the things that Mr. Oinam just said. Meiteis have become a minority is their own state. The government needs to find a resolution before it's too late.

@dhanabirmaibam1789 2 ай бұрын

The truth when told by our intellectuals will be very hard to digest by those who have no roots. Well done Prof. Bhagat. A big salute to you!

@boo12948 8 күн бұрын

Everyone's asking for a solution, well you have it. Dr. Bhagat Oinam has shared it. Now, it's time for the Central and the State government to act accordingly

@onishikanta5853 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much Abhijit Chawda ji for your courage and using the right term of prevailing LAND LAWS against Meiteis as APARTHEID absolutely LEGAL APARTHEID... " MEITEIS CAN'T SETTLED IN OTHER PARTS OF ITS OWN STATE EXCEPT IMPHAL VALLEY. AT the same time tribals can settle in valley and valley land purchased by tribals can't be owned or repurchased by meiteis. " No meiteis scholars or intellectuals never realize it. I fully accept it your term Legal Apartheid. This is a mind blowing to the meiteis. Heads off sir once again. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@Darthvader12245 2 ай бұрын

The same tribals are claming hill areas as their own while villianized meitei never claim the valley as meiteiland....The same valley where around 34 communities reside.Think,who is the selfish one here.The tribals act as if they are oppressed by the meiteis.They talk about underdevelopment in hill areas but their own mla minister bureaucrats are enjoying the funds allocated to them. They will settle in Imphal and hardly even set foot on their native places.When election time comes they will spew hatred among the people that meiteis have gobbled up all their funds and so on....

@hackerdestroyer9547 2 ай бұрын

thats what i wanted to say i have to hatred towards tribe but they have change the way of view,talk,and think. they just think of themself a as superior and they own all the hills@@Darthvader12245

@MangambaKonjengbam-ew6wy 2 ай бұрын

🥺🥺 economy in manipur is crumbling down becoming worse and worse now metei civilians are suffering more and more 😢😢😢😭😫

@GroovyJam44 2 ай бұрын

And could someone chime in what's the socio economic situation in hill parts of Manipur these days? bad or just getting worse?

@fuyoutube854 2 ай бұрын

@@GroovyJam44it's getting worse

@GroovyJam44 2 ай бұрын

@@fuyoutube854 THta's not good. Need to end this madness ASAP

@dhonon0p961 2 ай бұрын

As Dr.Bhagat oinam mentioned kuki are nomadic's yes they settle here in our district (Dima Hasao ,Assam) and we Dimasa's have a war between kuki ,Hmar On present day they are demanding for the bifurcation and want a separate district out of it .

@pdkrsingh9145 2 ай бұрын

These communities are call PARASITIC human body ,if they enter anywhere they will make history and claims there ancestral land then cleansing indigenous people.

@maketheworldabeautifulplac5150 Ай бұрын

That is what they do everywhere they go. Now, they have started in Bangladesh

@darknessgaming67 Ай бұрын

We are weak because we are not unite, we must all unite as people of TAI

@salamtombi8085 2 ай бұрын

Sir bhagat well speak to manipur history. God bless you in everytime.

@Buddha98 2 ай бұрын

Hope Manipur gets the right support from govt .

@shibaduttasharma6897 2 ай бұрын

Sirji this conversation should be viral in India

@pranabgemini Ай бұрын

This is one of the best vdo abt Manipur. People will still come back after ten years to listen Dr. Bhagat Oinam.

@thiyamsatyandra-qb2kd 2 ай бұрын

Such elaborate explanation require to convince non manipuri particularly mainland indians.it will definitely help to understand the current situation in this stare

@brojenthoudam908 23 күн бұрын

This kind of justified and factual historical views shall be seriously gone through by people of the whole world.

@akshoyanandsingh3861 2 ай бұрын

Huge respect to Abhijit & Bhagat SIR

@bonmai007 2 ай бұрын

It is not necessary that we all agree with whatever Dr. Oinam said. But to my ear, he is doing justice to every community, particularly with respect to communities in Manipur. Looking forward to hear more! Salute❤

@kk12-ke6bw 2 ай бұрын

Free from politics its satisfying 👍👍👍👍

@gjsharma3061 2 ай бұрын

Wonderful conversation between Bhagat and Abhijit. Kudos.

@despicable-mi 2 ай бұрын

sir, please interview Lt general (rtd), L Nishikanta Singh. He will cover the part of the story from military point of view. He has lots of ideas, about complexities and solutions on militants/insurgents of NE in general and particular about Manipur.

@Lulougonz 2 ай бұрын

It is quite obvious from this narrative that each communities in Manipur have merged with one another, especially between Meitei, Naga and Kuki people. As a Rongmei( Kabui Naga) I have been told that during the Meitei's clan war many Rongmei ( Kabui ) also helped some particular clan and later merged with the Meitei clan in the valley most probably, the Khuman clan and the Moirang clan( subject to correction).

@bisso5467 2 ай бұрын

Meitei, kabui and Tangkhul seems to have the closest relationship.

@khamnung-saowa Ай бұрын

Yes ,it's true

@FrancisKThomte 28 күн бұрын

Ok that means you are a kabui meitei🤣🤣not kabui naga

@Lulougonz 28 күн бұрын

@FrancisKThomte I didn't say that. Even Kuki people also have similar story.

@bisso5467 28 күн бұрын

@@FrancisKThomte Naga is a political term, first coined by the British. It doesn't have any historical significance, regarding identity. It's a political identity to group many different groups to achieve a political goal. Rongmeis don't have any similarities with Tangkhul Or any Naga tribe of Nagaland.

@srt-ul2qd3ch5o 2 ай бұрын

It is extremely delightful to learn many insightful historical findings & facts from Dr. Bhagat Oinam. Thank You Abhijit Chavda for conducting such a wonderful Talk. 🙏

@RingmaiWar 19 күн бұрын

26:50 i am really shocked and amazed by Dr Oinam's knowledge. Because being a Dimasa i have 5-6 Manipuri friends who doesn't even know whats dimasa 😅

@Pu19899 2 ай бұрын

Atlast a voice of reality and thank you Abhijit for giving this opportunity

@GoromMosala 2 ай бұрын

Abhijit sir is a man of indepth knowledge and Mr. Bhagat Oinam is undoubtedly a man of profound and unbiased knowledge. Thanks for such a precious interview

@neelj5155 2 ай бұрын

Everything starts with nehru...

@raesenpai4277 2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@rajeshwariaski6026 2 ай бұрын

Man I wish Sardar vallabai Patel should have been PM these Manipur issues Pok China occupies should have never happened

@paullytical 2 ай бұрын

lol, poor guy, in hindsight though, everyones a villain.

@angeepukhrambam 2 ай бұрын

please tell karan thapar to watch this before conducting another interview

@wahengbamchhintha9034 2 ай бұрын

Thanks you all, Abhijit and Bhagat for your valuable talking

@renukath6313 2 ай бұрын

such an illuminating and enlightening session..Thanks to both of you. Hope this may help to many to understand the truth of Manipur.

@sophykhuman1437 2 ай бұрын

Thank to abhijit sir for such a detail interview

@shobinyad6643 2 ай бұрын

This is much needed podcast!!!! Thank you Abhijit sir.

@RevivingSanamahism 2 ай бұрын

MEITEI are far Evolved Society Koupulu Civilization to Tangkhul Nurabi Ofcourse The 7 clans system is the living proof ❤ that Kabui Tangkhul Maring Inpui Anal Thangal Chothe all belong to the umbrella of 7 CLANS

@ssworld29511 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing such an insightful interview ❤ let the viewers understand more about Manipur and help to reshape the crisis 🙏

@sank475 2 ай бұрын

Very clearly explained by Oinam Sir. This should be an eye opener for the govt of manipur as well as native people of Manipur

@stjtynglemba4172 Ай бұрын

Hello we the native people or state govt. understand it. It's GOI who don't understand it ...

@okensinghn3909 Ай бұрын

Sir Abhijit and Dr Bhagat salute to you for such a wonderful factual discussion.

@panmeii9712 21 күн бұрын

This discussion worth forecasting in National media

@Mrinalini.m 2 ай бұрын

Wow this should be good ! Just started watching!!

@narmadasingha7398 2 ай бұрын

🎉Sir Abhijit Chavda🎉🎉 Dr. Bhagat Oinam🎉.

@hemamjohnsingh2379 Ай бұрын

Very nice...u have done conversation with both MEITEIs ( A.Bimol..amd O Bhagat...) please try 1 or 2 kuki members ... let's see how kuku explained... Your viewers eagerly waiting for kuki opinions...

@TP10141 3 күн бұрын

The sad reality is there are no kuki scholars.. with no history so finding one is impossible 😂

@Benzene-xw7oq 2 ай бұрын

And people criticize abijit sir as pro modi....great work as always sir..🙏🏻

@aditibhardwaj8790 2 ай бұрын

20% people, you know they have problems with everyone in the world

@Cath_95 2 ай бұрын

Fact: Kabaw valley was given to Myanmar in exchange with Andaman and Nicobar Island of Burmese after Indian independence as a part of negotiation with Myanmar by Indian government. Seeing the potential of Andaman and Nicobar on goods/oil transport canal/route, Indian Government (PM Nehru signed it) gave away kabaw valley without any discussion withe natives and Manipuris.

@alomnaga638 Ай бұрын

Really.. really.. well explained.One of the best, long and deep podcast that i have ever watched. Respect to both humans.

@maibamdinachandrasingh5210 Ай бұрын

Very very important talks for the next generation of youths .... thanks to both.

@hackerdestroyer9547 2 ай бұрын

its a great talk i been listening and obereserving for 2 hour till the end such an eye opening moment

@milapmehta7150 2 ай бұрын

Abhijit Sir, Please if you have more contacts with Home Ministry or Sir Oinam, please make sure that this detailed case shall not be prolonged. This is need of the hour and to be of immediate attention for our Govt. To solve this issue. We are all one, better representation and inclusion will be fruitful for all.

@bipinhemam 2 ай бұрын

Modi probably has a plan. In the meantime the youths of Manipur are stocking guns and ammunition.

@thinktank4481 2 ай бұрын

1.MIZO use Kuki 4 internal stability of Mizoram so that they can sent all the 50000 illegal immigrants from Myanmar which they kept in their state and get big market by shifting from Manipur moreh to mizoram chamapai district 2..ARMY use kuki 4 counter insurgency operation to killed meitei since SOO aggreement in 2005 that was done secretly without the knowledge of Manipur govt that was unearthed recently in Manipur assembly... 3..India Govt use Kuki 4 kaladan project in Myanmar.. 4...BJP use kuki 4 election already kuki militant said in NIA affidavit that BJP amit shah and Himanta biswas sharma give assurance to them if bjp come to power in Manipur 5..kingpin use Kuki 4 narco bussines and poppy plantation . 6.even Britisher use kuki 2 control Manipur as per record 7 all over kuki chin have bigger plan to form a new country called zalengam which is cooking for more than 70 yrs.. So is win win for all parties and except for people of Manipur especially indigenous Meitei who rule Manipur for more than 5000 yrs of history with its own kingdom

@thinktank4481 2 ай бұрын

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@chitranjanningthoujam8062 2 ай бұрын

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@user-li5hc5mb4u 2 ай бұрын

Shame on the Indian Army, huh?

@enioni716 2 ай бұрын

@@user-li5hc5mb4u kuki bot spotted

@punitgurumayum 2 ай бұрын

Not a single kukis will reply on this comment

@k_phaomei 2 ай бұрын

48:22 Was there any clashes between the Kukis and the Nagas living in the South? Short Answer: Yes. "As per the accounts of Sir Robert Reids, the Kuki mercenaries massacred about 176 persons of Goitang village and total of about 76 houses were completely razed to ashes." Goitang is a village in Khoupum, Noney District. People there still narrates vividly of the massacre. The Kukis butchered the villagers in the dead of the night when the villagers were fast asleep in their morung after a day of festivities which included cultural dances, cultural sports and drinking of rice beer. It is said that wooden pestles used for pounding rice, usually about 5-10 kilos heavy, were floating from the blood that flowed from the massacre. Many of the Rongmei villages towards South of Khoupum valley were occupied by the Kukis.

@k_phaomei 2 ай бұрын

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@Eimi420 2 ай бұрын

My brother, please don't share half baked stories. The Kuki Naga clash was equally tragic and cruel for both. No point in opening past wounds, we should be healing it instead. The relationship between the two except for some land disputes have been very progressive in the past 10 to 20 years. The reason Manipur is such a mess is because everyone keeps pointing their finger at each other.

@tourangbamtaibangnganbicha3179 2 ай бұрын

Phaomei brother 14:54 it's time now to to fight what they have done in phaomei family in past not to forget kuki the refugees people captured all the land which u have live in past years

@pauliensanggangte2031 Ай бұрын

Brother we both have war once in the past ..let’s forget about it, not only us but the nagas too

@maketheworldabeautifulplac5150 Ай бұрын

Bro don't point their mistakes. Kukis will never accept it. They are narcissists

@yb7872 2 ай бұрын

As soon as illegal cookies arrived in India their life is settle .I. Mean they will get a ST status and will enjoy all the privileges India government provide to ST.confusing India policy which lead to many problem.

@1990IndianArmy 2 ай бұрын

If you wanna know about the truth bring one Kuki and meetei together and discuss

@veterankeyboardwarrior6808 3 күн бұрын

Good luck finding a kuki intellectual who will speak any other solution other than "separate administration". For them, whatever you say, they'll keep parroting the same lines, "Separate Administration" "minority" "Christian"

@user-mm4di6zv2p 2 ай бұрын

Sometimes you can be blunt.... Some(not all) officers of the country's Armed forces are conniving with the immigrants against the indigenous people to have a good control over the insurgency situation out here. Some even helping them to rewrite history to validate their claims. It's high time the central Govt look into the matter as maximum indigenous civilians doesn't support insurgents out here. However, they've been victimized because of the incompetancies of those officers. This has become one reason for the anti India feelings amongst the indigenous folks.

@mSarubam 17 күн бұрын

Who wants wars? Let's do NRC and live peacefully 🙏🙏

@debajitkumardas8649 2 ай бұрын

There's something more deeper than what most of the people know

@RevivingSanamahism 2 ай бұрын

The Migration from the East Mentioned is the Poileitol Khunthokpa , Poileitol with his people left the valley due to the Catastrophic Flood that almost wipe out the fertile land ,he had to travel to the East and return after being Invited . Poileitol and Pakhangpa Compete to become the King and Pakhangpa won and become King marrying Poileitol sister Luwang Leisna. NONG Ta Lai len Pakhangpa became king after that Migration and most people of that Chakpa Migration still live in Andro ❤.

@kaizen9407 2 ай бұрын

Thkx you Abhijit sir ❤❤❤❤

@melemmalemnganba4133 2 ай бұрын

Abhijit sir we selute ur work I'm meitei community India

@Worchester 2 ай бұрын

Nice talk sir Bhagat and big fan abhijit chavda

@zorozoro2495 13 күн бұрын

I am from kangpokpi area and Well, influx of illigal kukis and the poppy cultivation can't be denied.. the river in kangpokpi which were parennial till 2000 now runs dry during the autumn season, coz of the destruction of the forest by the kukis. The river in the kuki inhabited area are striped of big stones coz of over quarrying and the use of chemical and battery to fish have suck the lives of river creature. since they are living not in their original land they don't really care about the environment..

@davelann4689 2 ай бұрын

ZO People/Zo Nations - But wrongly called Kuki by the British invader. Kuki is a word which is foreign to the so called Kuki People. It does not have any meaning, and if you ask anyone from the so called Kukis and let them try to define it literally, no one will be able to explain, define or give meaning to the word Kuki, NO ONE. These people are called Kuki because this is a name given by outside people esp East India Company - The Briitish agents, scholars, officials and their Indian emoloyees viz soldiers, workers, porters etc. just like how Europeans called the people who they found in America as the Red Indians - whereas they called themselves Navajos, Mohican, Commanches, Apaches, Mayans, Aztecs etc..). As a layman and who do not have any academic expertise my observarion especially In Manipur and many parts of NE, if you can speak and understand different dialects then linguistically - Meitei dialects, many Naga dialects & different so called Kuki dialects have many similarities. There are many common words between these communities - from present western Myanmar region and extending towards many parts of NE India. For instance counting numbers - 1 - Meitei - Ama, Kuki, Mizo etc - Khat, Pakhat etc 2. Ani, Hnih, Nih, pahnih 3. Ahum, thum, pathum 4. Mari, Li, Pali, 5. Manga, nga, panga 6. Taruk, Guk, Ruk, Paruk 7. Taret, Sagih, Sari, Pasarih 8. Nipan, Giet, Giat, Riat, Pariat 9. Mapan, Kuo, Kua, Pakua 10. Tara, Som, 11. Tara ama, Som le khat, Sawmpakhat 12. Tara ani, Som le nih, Sawmpahnih 13. Tara ahum, som leh thum, Sawmpathum etc... Fire : Meitei lon - Mei, Kuki Zo, Mizo - Mei Fish - Nga, Ngha, Nga, ngasa, Sangha Food - Chak, Chaw, Buh Meat - Sa, Sa, Sa, Sa Earth - Lei, Lei, Lei, Lei Sun - Nung, Ni, Ni, Ni Moon - Tha, Tha, Tha, Thla You/Yoursef - Nang/Nahak, Nang, Nang, Nangmah Me - Ei, Ei, Ei, Kei People - Mi, Mi, Mi, Mi Also please note there are also many borrowed words from their neighbours like - Bengoli, Assamese, Hindi, English etc in later years probably from 17th to 19th Centuries. If you are a true linguistic expert you will find hundres of words that sound similar, how sentences are consructed etc.. Many traditional old practices, customs, religious etc are also interchanged between these communities. Apart from the Nagas, the so called Kukis are called Chins/Zo/Yo in Burma, Kuki/Zo/Mizo in India, Kuki in Bangladesh. Chin is also a name given by the burmese and british to these group of people, and even the Meiteis (Kathes) also fall under the Chin group in Butma. But the majority of them called themselves which is very very common amongst these groups is they identified themselves as ZO - From South Western Myanmar, NE India to Bangladesh. Look at your google map and you will find these regions have maximum Hill Ranges and some valleys occupied by the ZO people, and the name of maximum villages are ZO names only. If you really want to find out take some journalists, anthropologists and scholars from NE with you and visit all these places. It will be a real eye opener on the ground reality, not from some room in Mumbai or Delhi. And don't believe every narrative in the internet.

@Gamereternium-kh9xn 2 ай бұрын

I hope he read this comment. The man was ducking about it

@userveroni 2 ай бұрын

the so called 'kathes' are the meities imprisoned by the burmeses king when they invaded manipur.....what about the kukis claiming themselves as the lost tribe of israel?

@isahauhnar3712 2 ай бұрын

(Bee) mizo= meitei = Khuai (Hair) mizo= meitei=Sam (Dog) mizo=meitei=Ui (meat) mizo= meitei= sa (Pig) mizo= meitei=vawk/awk (monkey)mizo=meitei= zawng/yang many similar vocubular or pronounciation and meaning

@userveroni 2 ай бұрын

@@isahauhnar3712 since u r d lost tribe of pluto u might have adopted from the meities...clearly mentioned in history u were imported to manipur for labor sm hundred years ago....kuki = kuli

@Skilledture6675 Ай бұрын

@@userveroni he is stating Mizo language not Kuki. Know the difference!

@FreeTutorialTv 16 күн бұрын

In kuki demographics changes, they included the oldest tribe of Manipur to kuki umbrella to prove that immigration kuki can be justified. This activity also increases the population count and ratio of population count changes drastically

@avd2111 2 ай бұрын

Kudos Abhijit

@alexsonnaorem8175 2 ай бұрын

I am proud of u Dr.Bhagat so2.........

@Mechabatman 2 ай бұрын

Dr is speaking facts broo spread positive response

@samsonsalam3879 2 ай бұрын

Pangal or Manipuri Muslims are not Meitei. They speak Meiteilon as their mother tongue as they don't have their own mother tongue. They came to Manipur in 17th century and their foremothers are Meitei women as the King of Manipur made Meitei women married to the immigrated Muslim men. So they are a mixed ethnic group. THEY ARE NOT MEITEI and THEY SHOUD BE CALLED PANGAL.

@maipaklammaba5144 2 ай бұрын

They are meitei. All given meitei surname and absorbed by the king.

@huidromsingh3942 2 ай бұрын

So much thanks to Abhijit Chavda sir for such incredible discussion ❤❤❤

@dlilipkumarlourembam428 2 ай бұрын

It is very interesting topic.

@GINO_-nn2pg 18 күн бұрын

Giving kukis shelter is the worst decision of the manipuris

@sumeetdua1061 Ай бұрын

Its a beautiful piece giving complete perspective of historical faultlines leading to the present day crisis. I have 1 suggestion. All of us may not find time for long podcasts. Also, your speakers having wealth of knowledge will speak for long. May be, you may consider giving a 5-10 min gist in the end. It'll offer 2 choices to your viewers: see the whole podcast or listen to your 10 min brief or summary. Thanks

@rishirajloitam4 2 ай бұрын

Very nice interaction.

@Samarendra69 2 ай бұрын

Thank You Abhijit

@nongbaan4095 Ай бұрын

Great discussion❤

@RajendraSingh-fm9mz 2 ай бұрын

After current crisis in Manipur, Meitei next step should be regained Kabo Valley which were handed over to Myanmar by Jawaharl Nehru

@bipinhemam 2 ай бұрын

First thing we should do is learn our history with open mind and teach our children to be proud of the Meitei culture, its language and its history and to love this land. Otherwise Meitei will just fight each other like before for money and power and Metei will either become Chritian or Muslim or Woke and the spirit of being a Meitei will become extinct.

@RajendraSingh-fm9mz 2 ай бұрын

Karan Thappar won't know all these because he is Kuki journalist

@heisnamnaren4680 2 ай бұрын

Karan Thapar survives with kuki's narco money....

@SosonKhuptong-tu2pq 2 ай бұрын

While Abhijit is meitei journalist

@jaibimoirangthem9473 2 ай бұрын

@@SosonKhuptong-tu2pqsorry I understand both have their own biases but Abhijit has the patience to listen to a different pov than his and not try to prove the other person wrong, Karan lacks this.

@asattdoungel8498 2 ай бұрын

It has to happened because he was paid huge amount of money to do so.

@jaibimoirangthem9473 2 ай бұрын

@@asattdoungel8498 are you kidding me? A person with such a huge audience doesn’t need to be paid?

@copyconversionpro 2 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing

@milkman9936 2 ай бұрын

Amazing content❤❤

@priyokumarsingh1890 2 ай бұрын

Well explained.

@sundachandyumlembam4715 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Oinam

@asemsingba417 2 ай бұрын

Thnks for speaking truth

@rakshitbora9552 2 ай бұрын

Such an informative episode. 👍 I wasn't aware of those complexities in Manipur even being from the same region.

@athoibileima9881 2 ай бұрын

Abhijit Sir is quite adorable for his wonderful insights about Manipur. His earlier interview concerning MANIPUR was a brilliant masterpiece which every truth seekers must watch.

@panmeii9712 21 күн бұрын

True. All Indians must watch this

@jibankumarkonsam1819 2 ай бұрын

Abhijit ji and Dr ji , you will wonder to know "The allocation of 1st five Year Plan for Manipur is Re. 1.00 crore (one crore Rupee)" 🙏🙏🙏

@LokenSingh 2 ай бұрын

Good coverage

@Ida-xe8pg 2 ай бұрын

Sir please talk about what wouldve happened if the Japanese had taken full control over South Asia

@Tarek.Ramara 2 ай бұрын

Relevance?

@punitgurumayum 2 ай бұрын

Most of the sout east asia ll be under japanese control

@ChristinaMyBeloved 2 ай бұрын

@@Tarek.Ramara Suggestion?

@user-xe3ow5zo2c 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this insightful details about Manipur conflicts which started on may 3 by kuki.

@onindoch 2 ай бұрын

Sir, at that time it was not Mandalay that Meitei King Pamheiba aka Garib Niwaz attacked. It was Amrapura, the Capital of the Burmese Kingdom of Ava. Amrapura was a city next to Mandalay. But as Mandalay city expanded it encompassed Amrapura & now Amrapura is part of Mandalay city.