Thanks a lot, I appreciate!

Bert Linschoten Thanks Bert! You're welcome to integrate whatever you've seen here into your own style.

Thank you for your comment, Morgan, I appreciate it. That is such an old video. ;-) There's been a lot of evolution in my program for Dirty Boxing, since then(which is not really shown in videos, actually). Again, thanks.

I know as I am a subscriber to your channel, but this video was the first time I saw your work, and I really liked it. The flow are impeccable. Great stuff! Are you working out of Brussel? If so, I would love to visit your gym someday as I have family in Brussel @@Manonuda

@@morganlim4552 Thanks. Yeah, I'm based in Brussels, and I got people visiting for training, s you are welcome to come by aw well. Let me know. It woudlbe best to send an email for this. Hope to meet you soon.

Thanks, Ozzy, I appreciate!

Mixed Martial Help Thanks!

+Marlon Patawaran Thanks, I appreciate!

Thanks Panalee! I appreciate it!

+Gerald L. Thank you!

Oui, merci Alan! j'espère que tout va bien pour toi!

You're welcome! Stay tuned! ;-)

Kali Sikaran Bath Thanks a lot for the comment, I appreciate! Especially coming from the Kali Sikaran family. ;-) Cheers!

Merci, Ludo! A bientôt, j'espère!

FROST BERT Thanks, Bert!

Grazie!

Thanks!

Thanks Bram, I appreciate!

There are many Panantukan teachers in the States. Anyway, thanks!

Brett Jackson Thanks a lot for the input and the history, Brett! I appreciate that you took your time to write this here, really. I wonder, if Panantukan wouldn't have the same visibility it has today because of people like Dan Inosanto, as you mentioned, would it be still developed further or it would have just died, or be restricted to a few in the pPhilippines. The greet thing about this art is that it can easily integrate many other elements from other fighting styles. One of my favorites!

That is one thing that I like about panantukan that its a open minded concept. As well as in art, you can add and tailor it to your interest. Just like Jkd! Not only that, both arts is inspired by weapons. From a open-minded approach, every art added to jkd is inspired by weapons, muay thai (mother art Muay Boran) savate, including boxing, Wing Chun(animals&nature). Even in Bruce's principles, he quoted" let the weapon teach the hand".....so the similarities are strong. Including pentjak silat(indonesia-Malaysia-Borneo)Japanese fighting arts

Nicophil Thanks!

Zain Iqbal Thanks, Zain!

Hi. Just to clarify. Panuntukan really has silat roots as the Philippines was Islamic before colonial period. Trading with nearby countries like Japan and China. The art evolved as well. Awesome videos here. My respects.

Thanks!

I'd be glad to come over and bring it to that wonderful place! Cheers! ;-)

Thats finna be me in the future 🙏🏽

+MANONUDA WOW OVER KILL

Yes it's leverage notice his foot is slightly directly behind his partners, then you basically bend at knee and forward. Try it make sure your partner falls back or they can hurt their leg

Thanks!

Thanks, Hardy!

Thanks!

+Don Tiravino De Burzaco I teach in Brussels, Belgium. But also all around for seminars.

You can contact me via email: info@manonuda.com

I totally agree with you. In my province there's not a single stench of FMA.

Yeah, I often show the motion connection between weapons and empty hands.

Than you pull out yours! ;-)

dmitri cervantes Hi Dimitri, in which area of the Philippines do you live?

in Manila the sad thing is there is no gymn here that teaches panantukan we have take wondo here karate gymn muay thai etc. etc. but panantukan i dont know where to find it i was surprise that our own art is learn and practice abroad but here try to ask someone about the art no one knows that it even exists, i only knew panantukan here in youtube that is the sad thing

+dmitri cervantes is there a doce pares school there? there are lot of kali teachers here in cebu

+dmitri cervantes There are guro here in Manila. You just have to look for them. Some are really old and still got the moves. i recently saw an old man exhibiting in Luneta.

dmitri cervantes go to cebu

Things like dropping the guard can happen when you are inbetween talking to a group and demonstrating whe to execute. When your whole attention is on the opponent and on the fight, it's different. ;-) But anyway…

+MANONUDA True. Martial Arts is very complex by its self without having a dozen eyes on you teaching a class. on occasion I've dropped gaurd my own self. I'm excited to try out what I saw. Great video by the way!

Thanks!

That's the common "underground" name of the art! ;-)

JPLMONEY23 I have yet to see a Football player putting the ball in a basket during a game! Some things are made for different things. MMA is a sport, this stuff is not for that, for many reasons, and I won't develop on the subject any further here and now, even thought I could, and extensively!

+JPLMONEY23 While I hate coming late to the game so to speak. I will say this. MMA as Manonuda said is a sport. Meant to be used in the "Ring" with a ref. Where as Panantukan is a CQC fighting system also known as "DIRTY boxing" since there is no fixed set of rules. Just like there are no rules on the street. In MMA you can't knee a dude in the nuts, or pick up a weapon, grab him by the ears and pound his head into the asphalt. While I respect MMA and the people who train in it. I would prefer to learn something like this or Krav Maga. Something that lets me live up to the ONE rule my father taught me about fighting. "Win at all cost."

+JPLMONEY23 And you wont. The movements are beautiful and very florid, but unfortunately they will not apply on the street the same way because its not staged. Many multi-combination techniques fall apart once your opponent resists or blocks or draws back. In order for all those movements to work in succession youd need an attacker that doesn't react and will allow you to follow through and do everything scripted. Can these movements work? Definitely but not to the degree you see here.

+Garoosh thats true thats why if you look closely the vid you can see the guy always hitting the attacker on the nuts XD

Imao this is panantukan dirty boxing from philippines.

Thank you for your comment, Gabriel! Your observation is pretty fair, but only on a certain degree. I too (the instructor in the video), find it is nonsense when I see videos in which the attacker "freezes" and allows any kind of techniques on him, and my students can surely confirm how much I advocate training in the most possible realistic way, while others "exclusively" train with that "freezing" mode. What one should understand is that there are different degrees of training, and that goes from breaking down the techniques, work them slowly but smoothy, than with real speed, and than with a real responsiveness from the attacker (which can be applied to any of this formats, actually). For training, if you allow the attacker to react and resist, than it should be fair also to allow the defender not to stop the hits a few inches before the target or to control the strikes, leverage and the rest of it, on his opponent, right? Most of the martial art training is after all a "simulation" or reality, but you can (and should) get as close to it as possible, and we do that (not necessarily in this video, maybe). Therefore your comment is fair, but doesn't touch me more than that, really. Also, I could point out that by the same logic, and to use your words, it is "absolute nonsense" for a boxer to strike into heavy bags and focus mitts! After all, a real opponent won't stand in front of hime harmlessly weaving left and right and just take his punches like a heavy bag do, or will not allow him to place all this clean and perfectly executed combination that he performs with the collaboration of the coach holding focus mitts, right? Man, I got many level of depth in my teaching and in my training, so once again, I accept your comment, but that doesn't touch me at all considering my realistic approach during training (again, it's my student who should confirm that or not, a video makes no justice). I just thought I would reply to this comment of yours anyway, just out of politeness. With that said, I will leave you copy your comment and paste it all over the thousand of martial arts videos here on KZfaq, as you might as well do that. And because this can easily lead to an infinite provocative discussion, I can tell you that I am not going to reply to any further comments from you on this subject, and should you want to test your "reaction and resistance" against "my ego fapping" and against the same techniques as shown in this video, than you're very welcome, man! (How come that martial arts inevitably takes you to this challenge shit, all the time?).

Gabriel Storm Gabriel, I am glad you are smoothing out the corners, here. But understand that if somebody leaves a comment saying "this is absolute nonsense and ego fapping", it's hard not to take it as provocative and aggressive, I guess! Anyway, since you take MMA and Combative Sports as a comparison with other martial arts (oh, and by the way I teach and train Boxe, Muay Thai, Grappling and MMA), let me just point out that not 100% of the training in "combative sports" are based on aliveness, with full resistance and reaction. For learning and training you do execute high-repetition drills and techniques back and forth with the full cooperation of your partner, right? You have that in Boxing, you have that in Muay Thai, you have that in Judo, you have that in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu! This is a classic: the amateur see a given techniques, in which you isolate a counter against the "Cross", for example, and he goes: "Oh, yeah, but… What if the opponent follow up with a left Hook too?". That's the time where you need to take a long breath, while the veterans roll their eyes up, and explain that we're "isolating" one portion of a possible dynamic, to drill it up over and over. To that question, I often answer: "Yes, he can come with that too. But while you're executing your"cross counter", he can also go for a double leg takedown, or pull out a knife, or some friends can jump in, and on and on and on, right? How about me? I can also counter the rest of his action, and he can counter mine as well. And on and on and on… You see, you are free to judge a video like this one, but if you do so, please make sure to understand the context, without extrapolating a portion of the training and judging it because it wouldn't work in real life. Again, by that logic, a Boxer should never hit a heavy bag, since a real opponent is not going to stand there an take all those beautiful, perfect combination, right? It's training. At this point I should make a confession. I see a lot of videos, and I too think that it is absurd that the opponent feeds one attack, and the defender execute a lot of moves while the other just let him do his thing! I admit it, it is something that makes me laugh, and at the same time it irritates me as well. In our sessions, I always point out to my student that "there is another way" of training, a more realistic way, and in my MSDP program (Self-Défense), I show how the same technique works if executed in the "dojo" format and often doesn't work when you work in the "street" format, with just a little bit of intent (not even talking about energy or intensity or resistance, just intent). The thing is that you shouldn't only train "cooperatively", as you shouldn't only train with "aliveness". I believe you should do both, and that's what we do at MANONUDA, and I even have set up a training breakdown for each of the disciplines I teach, that I won't share here now, but in which one component is called "Live Training". That doesn't mean "Sparring", even though sparring is included in it, as you can have different levels of "aliveness". Everything is progressive, when it comes to teaching, otherwise you should go for "all" or "nothing", and you do not need a teacher assistance for that. I could go on and on on the subject, but I don't even know if it's worth it to put it into words, because everything become easily too abstract, and in abstraction confusion may arise. I will hopefully show a lot of this concepts in videos, at some point, as things are planned. I never watch my videos once they are posted, but I was sure that should be something that would indicate a "progressive" method of training techniques, and so I watch it and found it at "2:23". I invite you to watch how I show a technique against Jab & Cross and on the latter you execute an Outside Gunting, a scoop of the arm and a "push". Now: AFTER the push, you follow up with a combination to finish up. The technique that follows, show how I demonstrate if AFTER the push the opponent "react" adding another punch, and you have to pick it up from "where you are", and we do that with a Split Gunting on the arm. I don't think everybody is able to "see that", but that's the problem with having a video of a seminar up on KZfaq: the people watching it, they didn't attend the seminar itself, right? (Good thing I demonstrate it quietly slow for all the attenders to understand, otherwise in real speed one wouldn't recognise a single movement, and the idea behind it, but of course, we trained that in full speed). Anyway, you pulled me in again. I promised I wouldn't develop any further on the subject, and here I am writing the longest reply ever! You got me! ;-) Oh, and since you mention it, Kickboxing is not the only option for a real street fight, believe me (word of a Kickboxer). Cheers!

Gabriel Storm watch guro alexander plaksin the video title is boxing vs panantukan or filipino boxing.. or this watch french documentary of kali escrima watch the last part of the vid.. it was awesome.

It's drills dude. From boxing to mma or martial arts, many different types of drills. If you ask or have a problem with drills well....