interesting call...not sure i agree but i do love that record..but the question is... part 1 or part 2 ?

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interesting point. the link to the South is undeniable, I kinda always associate the miami sound much more with theearly uptempo electro stuff but yeah...you have a point

no doubt, he's got a new track out apparently - need to go check it out

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no doubt he was a big influence..

its a fair point. i suppose id say thank god back in the day we didnt have social media to deal with just radio, vinyl and the best records kinda won out. imagine if now fresh is the word came out and had to have a tik tok dance...

I agree, Maybe a marketing issue, i dont know, mantronix has the best beats.. He should have a billion views

The answer: M.C. Tee

@@tzodearf2596 where is mc tee nowadays

@@ooshinibos1 IDK

yeah i had to get that in there, i've seen him talkabout him in other interviews too

You will love his new single called The Era of AI - Mantronix featuring bruse wane,

No doubt - should be in everyone's list of top producers.. and a really nice guy too.

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feels like a very long time ago now...

thanks, he made it very easy absolute top guy

its a big tune no doubt. new one (you mentioned in another comment) is cool too - good to see him back making music publically available

i get the point - i imagine he does ok he had some huge hits.What I never understood (and i asked him) is why no one every got him to develop some equipment.... Mantronix spec'd drum machine/MPC etc...

You need to check his new single, featuring bruse wane... Mantronix is really talented, he still got it

of course., so influential...i heard the "king of the beats" siren on a new DnB track last week -what 35 years later....

i was 12...eek. I wonder if 12yr olds today will have a love for thi generaitions music as we have for what we had in the 80s? I hope so...but, idk....

Nino Idk either but if the current and the generations following live ling enough maybe. To me with no disrespect to any of todays producers 80s,and 90s hip hop had a little bit more creativity to it from what was being said in the rap to the iconic, complex beats. As a producer I find the hip hop of today is so simplistic to make, with these drag and drop just add water beats 80s and 90s producers had to create their their own music from scratch with the exception of samples it all wasn't just add water production you had to be a musician or just have God given talent to produce iconic hip hop music. May God bless all generations coming up to live to remember their youthful years in hip hop.

Totally relate to your story.

thanks, to be fair he made it really easy for me - great stories and amazing music

I think because he existed a little 'outside' the scene. Other than T La Rock, Just-Ice and his Mantronix work, he wasn't as 'integrated' as the big producers of the time who worked with a bigger range of Hip Hop artists - Marley Marl is the easiest example i guess. Add to that a kind of 'left field' approach and a relatively short career in Hip Hop and it's kind of understandable - if really sad. That said, countless producers refer to his work and influence so I thnk his greatest recognition comes in the sounds that followed and still exist today.

​@@ninomalomusicgreat points. Mantronix and ultra magnetic mcs are in a similar boat. Fresh is the word came out in 1985, ego trippin came out in 1986...both records were fire. But hip hop was shifting away from the Latin rascals and mantronix editing style of production. I always thought mantronix should have followed the Latin rascals and become a Latin freestyle producer, his beats on nocera's summertime is a classic. But he did produce just-ice before fading from the ny hip hop scene. As for ultra magnetic, Kool Keith rhyming style was considered way to abstract and weird so after critical breakdown they faded from the ny scene too. Both mantronix and ultra magnetic were outside the box when it came to the core ny hip hop.

@@mymusic8414 interesting comparison. Ultra had a longer run but a similar number of Albums to Mantronix in its orginal form. I loved that Latin Hip Hop style but it's appeal outside of NY was limited. Maybe by makingstuff like "Got to have your love" and the house tracks later were a way to break beyond a 'strictly' Hip Hop audience. Ced Gee is a hugely under rated producer and again someome predominantly associated with one group (+earlyBDP!) rather than producing multiple artists like say Premier, RZA etc. . I think there's a clear line between a producers ability to work with multiple artists and their longevity/recognition.

Other than for Dr Dre of course you're right. Dre's stuff with WCWC would have been around the same time as the first Mantronix stuff was about - 1985 -so I think it's reasonable to consider them as contemporaries. That said, for me at least, Dre came into his own as a producer with NWA and even then you could argue that he didnt hit his real "sound" until Chronic where as Mantronix came out the gate with something very different - Mantronik's influence on music way beyond Hip Hop is without doubt...

@@ninomalomusic Interesting you mention Dre as that rhyme flow at 1:32 instantly reminded me of Eazy E, he probably got it from Ice T's '6 in the morning' but that dropped 2 years later than the Mantronix 'Hardcore Hip Hop' joint, the only other thing in '85 I can think of with that cadance was Schoolly D's 'Gucci Time'

@@npc3po301 That's a intersting call. I also thought MC Tee kinda often took on a similar flow to Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick (and to an extent Dana Dane).That kinda singy song kinda slow flow - i guess its the jamaican roots. But he was much more inclined to then get more stacatto and faster flow. He was a favourite but his later crimes unfortunately mean I can't listen as 'easily'... there's a reason he isn't discussed in the show at all.

absolutely....still dont know how he made his name have that sound effect....

@@ninomalomusicMa-ma-ma-ma-mantronnnnnix-ix-ix-ix!!! I don’t know either. 😂