Manual Transmission vs Automatic Transmission - Which One To Choose When Buying a Semi-Truck?

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Manual or Automatic Transmission - Which One To Choose When Buying a New or Used Semi-Truck? This video will show you all the factors to consider when you choose a transmission for your next semi-truck.
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@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
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@thetruckerslearningchannel3211
@thetruckerslearningchannel3211 2 жыл бұрын
The perfect setup for me, would be a 13 manual that magically changed into an automatic in city traffic.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great setup 😀
@dedrakuhn6103
@dedrakuhn6103 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a great setup! Always reverts to manual if there is a malfunction
@christopherculvey3391
@christopherculvey3391 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your knee out of the way, lol. It would be fun to watch the stick move on its own.
@real_ultrajoe
@real_ultrajoe Жыл бұрын
Paddle shifters
@hudsondonnell444
@hudsondonnell444 Жыл бұрын
I need the low side split.
@rudyjanes2530
@rudyjanes2530 2 жыл бұрын
Allison automatic for dump trucks. 13 speed over the road trucks. 18 speed for log and heavy haulers
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on! Great summary!
@igmtrucking7690
@igmtrucking7690 2 жыл бұрын
🎯
@KristopherLamont
@KristopherLamont 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Strickland325
@Strickland325 2 жыл бұрын
There is a huge difference in automated and automatic transmissions. We sold all our automated trucks in favor of Allison autos. Far cheaper to operate.
@catsbyondrepair
@catsbyondrepair 2 жыл бұрын
All real heavy haul use automatics
@JeancTejada
@JeancTejada 2 жыл бұрын
I Appreciate you spreading your vast knowledge that didn’t come easy to you!
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@timtdog5542
@timtdog5542 Ай бұрын
I was wondering how durable the auto's were.But from all you people posted, I'm pretty confident.I'm gonna look into the autos And thanks for. The video man like I love when a driver mechanic driver mechanic is the one telling The pros and cons
@jerseycowboy1
@jerseycowboy1 2 жыл бұрын
Best Automatic combo I have drove...Volvo 860 with I-shift D13 1850 torque... Barely feel it shift plus no long delay between gears like the freightliner or Pete. Shifts just like a car...D13 is a beast!
@carloscervantes836
@carloscervantes836 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Volvo auto the most as well, very nice shifting.
@trentallman984
@trentallman984 2 жыл бұрын
Been in a 2017 730, 13 liter I shift, and it has spoiled me completely. The hill stop is the only issue, I hate it and turn it off 99% of the time.
@geoestrada5001
@geoestrada5001 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very happy with Volvo I-shift and I bought a Kenworth t680 10 Automatic 2018 and this transmission its makes me looks badly to an American trucks , I believe they don’t know how to doit better automatic transmission, and I will come back to Volvo 860 again,
@williamnale7835
@williamnale7835 2 жыл бұрын
Just came out a 2016 Volvo 670 with the D13 & 12spd i-shift. Loved it but I had the auto trans go out at 400k miles. It wouldn't shift right and it stalled. Got towed into Wenatchee WA where I spent a week in a hotel while it got rebuilt. About 1.5 weeks later it went out again outside Bakersfiy first truck with the co was a 13spd and it was fun, except in LA..
@MerlinMoorlo
@MerlinMoorlo 2 жыл бұрын
i think its beast first 3 years...
@vinnyvdalidemonet8527
@vinnyvdalidemonet8527 Жыл бұрын
Again I agree with you. I've become a big fan of your channel Ryan. I know you to tell the truth, as I've had experience with so much of what you share. I hope you find sponsorship to keep you going. I appreciate your opinion & insight.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Thanks for your support!
@joshuaroe3021
@joshuaroe3021 8 ай бұрын
What a gem. Has been helpful in all aspects of trucking.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ❤️
@williekaminski3705
@williekaminski3705 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone who likes a 9 or 13 speed, the 18 speed is virtually the same weight and only a little more expensive. Easy choice for me because it gives me a lower reverse gear for easy backing and I always have the right gear for any load on any hill. For a truck you will have someone else driving, automatics are appealing because idiots do lots of damage to a manual transmission truck.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!👍
@carlloeber
@carlloeber 8 ай бұрын
Thank you.. very good I want to watch some of your others on maintenance.. and repairs
@terrysmith7229
@terrysmith7229 11 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your content Ryan. Keep up the good work. God Bless you and your family.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 11 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@jimjim6803
@jimjim6803 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hauling 140.000lbs tankers up in Canada. Dd16 paired with dt12 50k miles so far extremely happy.
@donmcintosh4125
@donmcintosh4125 2 жыл бұрын
Love the little video clips inserted
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Just experimented the B rolls in the videos
@davesmith2150
@davesmith2150 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be all about manuals buy after 1million miles in a dt12 auto it's the only way to go and paired with the dd15 it's a match made in heaven the engine and trans last much longer because the rpms are always perfect.
@dewaynemiguel3349
@dewaynemiguel3349 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the older 16 speed Spicer in my 1975 freightliner overall a 13 but I drove for Walmart and had a 10 speed with a 465 cummins and that truck averaged 9.1 mpg for the entire year it impressed me but my loads averaged about 70k gross.
@GoaltoGo
@GoaltoGo 2 жыл бұрын
Great quality content.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CatrachoDNYC
@CatrachoDNYC 2 жыл бұрын
My truck has automated 10 speed, cost me $3200 rebuilt, $1200 for clutch and about $1200 for labor. Would not buy a manual again. My truck now has 1.7 million miles and transmission was rebuilt at 1.3 million. The problem this one did have was the speed sensors, 3 of them. I carry 3 extra sensors at $86 a piece. I usually change all of them at save time but since transmission rebuild no change of sensors necessary so far about 500,000 miles..
@safwansatti5653
@safwansatti5653 Жыл бұрын
What kind of truck you got?
@CatrachoDNYC
@CatrachoDNYC Жыл бұрын
07 Freightliner century
@itumelengmahaole5890
@itumelengmahaole5890 Жыл бұрын
@@CatrachoDNYC how often do you replace your gear oil? Do you use synthetic or mineral oil?
@CatrachoDNYC
@CatrachoDNYC Жыл бұрын
@@itumelengmahaole5890 I use synthetic and replace it every 100 thousand miles. We monitor the oil with test to see how it's doing, I do transmission and differential at same time
@itumelengmahaole5890
@itumelengmahaole5890 Жыл бұрын
@@CatrachoDNYC thank you so much 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@FFF_Trucking
@FFF_Trucking Жыл бұрын
your video made a difference thanx
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@evguenimertodjan9783
@evguenimertodjan9783 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ryan for your work and effort, good info!
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@peterwall6531
@peterwall6531 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful videos
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@austin_94gt18
@austin_94gt18 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the going 85mph in 80mph zones and etc. I also have the Paccar MX13, but it's a 2020 12 speed automatic. I also average 7.5-8.0 miles per gallon.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@terrellscaife2411
@terrellscaife2411 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I appreciate your insight i’ve been out of the trucking industry for some years now I have some experience with the Volvo I shift transmission there OK I guess is less work like you say they are good in heavy traffic but overall, they do not perform like a good old fashion handshaker
@neilpuckett359
@neilpuckett359 2 жыл бұрын
There's a fellow leased on where I'm at he's got a late model Western Star with the big Detroit and an Allison transmission,he loves it!
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@anthony1636
@anthony1636 2 жыл бұрын
You can match any automated gearbox for fuel economy with a Manual box. But you have to use your driving skill to get the best out of them. As for reliability the automated box has been used for many many years in Europe, and they really do not cause more problems than a manual box. But an automated box will not let you abuse the box unlike an manual box that can and often is abused by drivers. I personally like either, but for sure if I was employing a driver it would be automated.
@michaelchason9170
@michaelchason9170 2 жыл бұрын
More relaxed in mountains and city areas. Truck does the work. Snow is better with manual because of quick control of RPMs to avoid spinouts or jackknife. I love automatic
@jcsully
@jcsully 2 жыл бұрын
An automated transmission is the same as a manual. The difference is an ECU does the shifting. Hardware is identical.
@angrysocialjusticewarrior
@angrysocialjusticewarrior 2 жыл бұрын
You can't match it. You can only get comparable MPG levels at best. Not only does an automatic do a slightly better job at fuel economy than the most experienced driver you can find, but it also does it with little effort (you have to work hard in a manual to get high MPG), and most importantly... an automatic is perfectly consistent with any driver that you assign to it. Automatics can be beat fuel wise. Manuals are only better for affordability of maintenance and smooth operation on hills.
@romstartransportation5387
@romstartransportation5387 2 жыл бұрын
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior I won’t install automatic in mine….not even by mistake. Once in shop with automatic the shop is your new boss…. Manual can be fixed even in your driveway….big difference. And the final bill is about 25% for manual vs 100% for automatic or translation is about $5000 or slightly higher on manual vs $20.000 for automatic plus you can’t just fixed anywhere. Wait until the mechanic is scratching his head that his eggs until he decided when and how he is gonna repair or replace that cool automatic transmission
@chazarkansas1366
@chazarkansas1366 2 жыл бұрын
LOL MATCH.
@davidrosenberg353
@davidrosenberg353 2 жыл бұрын
good video thanks lots, to think about. hope you guys are ok
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@bigdaddystep.
@bigdaddystep. 2 жыл бұрын
Take a turn in an intersection with a loaded spread axle and get back to me if 18s aren’t something you really need. The tire scrub and bind will suck ur road speed down faster than ur rpm drop allows you to make successful shift.
@StarDark4
@StarDark4 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do otr to Los Angeles alot. I do like manuals but because of traffic in la automatic is the go-to for me
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, agreed. Choose the right transimission for what you do is wise.
@svt89
@svt89 2 жыл бұрын
The Volvo ishift/mdrive best automated trans on the market .
@CooterELee
@CooterELee 2 жыл бұрын
A truck was broke down on interstate in travel lane blocking traffic. I suggested on radio he could put in lowest gear and use starter motor to move over to shoulder and out of traffic. I guess on the automated trans the key won’t turn over engine unless in neutral though. (I’m not suggesting you use the starter motor to do this in most situations, but in a safety critical situation like this it will work and most starters will ha r a thermal protection to keep you from damaging your starter.)
@jimmefz3328
@jimmefz3328 2 жыл бұрын
Allisons are actually true automatics with torque converters rather then clutches. Considering how well they do on severe duty trucks on/off road i don't think reliability is much of an issue.
@wizard_of_poz4413
@wizard_of_poz4413 Жыл бұрын
They suck fuel
@BEER4Bonnieville
@BEER4Bonnieville 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the 12 speed Meritor from a few years ago.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@jerrykinnin7941
@jerrykinnin7941 2 жыл бұрын
I like a 13 speed stick in a 9670 small bunk come with a 500 red top N14 390 rears on Hendrickson walking beam 200 inch wb with a long slide 48"high blockable 5th wheel. Head rack 2line wet kit. 11R22.5 rubber all around single tank need to keep the weight under 18000 lbs. . But I'm an intermodal dump tanker driver.
@leewalker3514
@leewalker3514 2 жыл бұрын
I thank you for your information I prefer a 10 or 13 speed I have been driving for 45 years the only half decent automatic that I run up on is de Volvo the new one I’ve only drove one one time and I’d rather have my straight stick but thank you for your information
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@KulinBan777
@KulinBan777 4 сағат бұрын
With so many auto transmissions on the road now I figure they’re gonna become cheaper to fix. It is worth paying more and not having to shit gears all day.
@pnweboardcroft7361
@pnweboardcroft7361 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. personally 13 is my fave might consider at dt12 equipped cascadia for next truck the mpg increase is substantial
@GlennGoryl
@GlennGoryl Ай бұрын
For the businessman, the equation is: Better Fuel Economy + Less Driver Fatigue - Increased Repair Costs = Auto or Manual.
@Jackknife-TV
@Jackknife-TV 2 жыл бұрын
For an owner operator I would say stick with a manual especially if you're buying used.... If you're able to buy brand new trucks for a fleet and recuperate lost revenue due to warranty repairs.... By lease purchases, fuel savings, driver abuse, larger driver pool and resale than an automatic is the way to go......
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@BIGNOSEPOPPA
@BIGNOSEPOPPA Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of being an owner operator but driving under the flagship of the company I currently work for. I drive a 2007 manual ten speed Volvo and all the trucks at this company are Volvo. I'm thinking of buying either a day cab or sleeper even though I do local work which I'm home buy 5pm everyday. What's your opinion on ten speed Volvo trucks?
@BIGNOSEPOPPA
@BIGNOSEPOPPA Жыл бұрын
​@@truckingandfixing I want your opinion as well bro.
@gemstatefisherman3409
@gemstatefisherman3409 2 жыл бұрын
Personal truck, 13 or 18spd employee truck automatic. It helps reduce costs
@ryangoodsell9802
@ryangoodsell9802 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy it’s Goody from ACB-1 love the channel you forgot that Allison does make a true automatic. They love fuel I rocked a KW T800 with it loaded or not it did 4mpg
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@jossa942
@jossa942 2 жыл бұрын
Super 10 is on my dads 2015 freighterliner.. super smooth and nice. I love super 10 just like 13 speed kinda
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@hwyman01
@hwyman01 Жыл бұрын
Been driving 13 years. Said I'd never drive an auto. Got one in 2020... I'll never go back now lol
@dr.manhattan6278
@dr.manhattan6278 Жыл бұрын
I said the exact same thing lol. My boss got me an automatic 2021 twelve wheel mack pulling 70k lbs. Yeah, I'll never go back either. 🤙🏾
@jorgefonseca9225
@jorgefonseca9225 2 жыл бұрын
Great vedeo and great explanation 👍 on my opinion I like a 18speed on my 379 with a CAT 3408 , on my international have a 13speed with a DETROIT S60 but I prefer a 18speed also mostly of the time I driving full loading 50ton!! and much mountains up here but automatic transmission NEVER EVER I buying that junk 🙄😐 we have around 9months winter conditions and a manual transmission it's a best ever like you said: no electronic sensors stuffs like that change a oil and going never broken 👍 the automatic transmission it's more easy to driving but when starting a problem well it's a really expensive and lose money!! I can use less fuel when I driving with a manual transmission 👏 👌 👍 a automatic transmission it's better for a new generation of the driver's 🤪 great vedeo mate 👍 cheers from Norway
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Norway! 🇳🇴
@johnfrimenko9789
@johnfrimenko9789 2 жыл бұрын
Nice jacket. Who made it? I drove a Volvo I-Shift company truck pulling a pneumatic tanker. Was a great trans. Nice integration with the brakes in town, on a hill, at a stop light, bumper to bumper (hill-holder).
@BuildingWithRane
@BuildingWithRane Жыл бұрын
Looks like bulwark.
@johnashton9678
@johnashton9678 4 ай бұрын
You should check out Allison transmissions. They have a torque converter, nothing like a regular truck transmission, with 4 "clutches".
@vicpetrishak1077
@vicpetrishak1077 2 жыл бұрын
Manual transmissions may be limped home . Automated or automatic transmissions are very expensive .Not many road breakdown repairs are successfully accomplished . Tow unit to garage and wait 2 weeks.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@catsbyondrepair
@catsbyondrepair 2 жыл бұрын
Automatics don't break
@jeromes5141
@jeromes5141 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing with this video. This is my 4th week driving a semi. I'm working for a friend of mines. At 1st I wanted to get some experience under my belt but now I just wanna get my own truck and have more control of when I wrk, where I wrk and fam time. Truck prices are ridiculous, but I have seen that the manuals are more available on the market. You made a good point about hiring another driver, but I'm thinking to just go with a manual to get started. Then try and get an automatic. My question is this, is there that much of a difference in mpg if the gears are changed at low rpm and efficiently?
@edmunger5595
@edmunger5595 10 ай бұрын
Don't be in a hurry to buy a truck, becoming an owner operator has a lot of headaches that come with it, drive for a company for a few years and build You a nice bank account because as a company driver if the truck breaks You tell someone and go home and they fix it, if You own the truck and it breaks You have to fix it or pay someone to fix it and truck parts are not cheap and the labor alone is $150 plus per hour and that doesn't include normal wear and tear, oil changes $400 ,tires $5,000 , breaks $500 per axle and so on.
@548raptor
@548raptor Жыл бұрын
Allison all the way for the dump trucks!
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
15 speed is basically a 10 speed , with a Second Reduction ratio in the bottom box . Equates to 12 sequential gears due to Overlap . Tipper truck Box . 5 Bog Cogs .
@charlievalois7839
@charlievalois7839 2 жыл бұрын
Totally came here to say this. Orsum bullet proof trans.
@victormmedina1457
@victormmedina1457 Жыл бұрын
In your experience as mechanic, for pumping products with pto(hydraulic) which is better transmission in short and long term?. Also between 12 and 18 spds automatic what is the differences on preform. Thanks
@truckinfool3550
@truckinfool3550 2 жыл бұрын
I actually liked the Super 10, only half as many shifter moves to get to top gear.
@youtubeisawesome2487
@youtubeisawesome2487 2 жыл бұрын
when you talk autos you have to specify which one, and which generation, the volvo i shift is awesome, the first couple gererations of eaton auto shifts were junky at best, the paccar endurant is doing okish but has some issues, allison makes a fluid auto, on a manual meritor eaton, volvo, mack, each one has there own issues, a manual wont leave you stranded with a xy shifter or clutch actuator failure or a battery power issue, there are also issues with hydraulic clutch stuff, vs the ole pedal and rod.
@longhauler8963
@longhauler8963 2 жыл бұрын
I stripped out one of my higher gears that would jump out of gear when I let off the accelerator but made it 1500miles back to my local shop to get it replaced, but I wouldn’t mind and auto in heavy traffic
@kmg501
@kmg501 11 ай бұрын
The only thing that sucks on a automated is backing up because it is hard to get granular control. Other than that I suggest getting automated and I say as someone with nearly thirty five years of experience. Automated will help to save you a lot of money via MPG.
@hgffrank
@hgffrank 2 жыл бұрын
Drive my first semi yesterday, Manual Frieghtliner. I drive manual cars for many years. I found the semi very easy to drive. The split gears seems confusing but if I was driving every day, I'm sure it would be natural. Seems to me that the choice would have more to do with terrain than anything else. I hate autos in Hill country.
@michaelchason9170
@michaelchason9170 2 жыл бұрын
Automatic can do better on hills. Don't have to hold same gear for climbing, the engine is constantly screaming on a stick
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelchason9170 . Auto using a Torque Converter will hold Max revs . Automated Manual works like a Manual .
@oregonfordguy9812
@oregonfordguy9812 2 жыл бұрын
going with another 13spd. new project truck is gettog a 13and 4 setyp.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@hazmathauler4536
@hazmathauler4536 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would not want anything but my 13 speed, 6nz Cat or 3:55 rears. Personal preference.
@jasonrc3976
@jasonrc3976 8 ай бұрын
What abput a 10spd or 18 with aux 3 or 4 speed aux box? It would definitely have 1 overdrive gear. I do mostly extreme offroad and then long highways. Thank you for your thoughts.
@lfcfan4557
@lfcfan4557 2 жыл бұрын
I replaced my automated 10spd Eaton Ultrashift @ 858 K miles after it started acting up and it cost me $3.5 K . Prior to that I had replaced the clutch @ 515K miles. The things that I've learned about it over time makes me think that maybe I didn't have to replace the trany at the time, most of the problems accrue because of electronic failures such as bad sensors, or bad batteries. If the voltage is low due to a bad ground, dirty battery terminals, damaged wire etc. it will not shift right, but the clutch has a lifespan as a manual tranny of 500k miles, given you don't abuse it. The earlier models ( That I have) needs getting used to because they tend to jerk the truck when backing up, and that can be inconvenient when backing to a dock door, also after driving a long trip with a heavy load you'll need few miles to adjust the foot on the throttle after you're empty. The newer models have the creeping mode and much better control at low speed, like driving in heavy traffic, or backing to a door, or to keep it under 5 mp for your ELD 😊. In conclusion , my opinion is that if you're in it purely for $$$, The automated is the way to go, because the fuel saving is one of THE major factors in this business , the maintenance is tax deductible, and in- time preventive maintenance is the way to avoid costly breakdowns, but if it's a lifestyle for you, as it is for so many😊 the standard tranny with a long shifter that almost sticks out of the roof of your cab might be your choice. Convenience and efficiency VS Lifestyle and simplicity.
@jossa942
@jossa942 2 жыл бұрын
I did same exact thing.. manuals for life.. automatic has had me stuck at pumps or lights blocking traffic.. manual never would break.
@jcsully
@jcsully 2 жыл бұрын
You can get the same fuel economy with a manual if you drive it correctly.
@angrysocialjusticewarrior
@angrysocialjusticewarrior 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcsully Nope. You can't.
@jcsully
@jcsully 2 жыл бұрын
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Just because you can't doesn't mean someone else couldn't. Not everyone driving a manual is "lazy", or incapable. Don't be so presumptuous.
@BIGNOSEPOPPA
@BIGNOSEPOPPA Жыл бұрын
​@@angrysocialjusticewarrior can you help me understand why you believe this comment you made?
@dougmitchell5435
@dougmitchell5435 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Eaton still made the three pedal automated transmissions. As for the 15 speed, they are basically a 10 speed with a deep reduction set below the low side. The lower gears are useful for some specialized needs, but were more common in on/off road trucks, like dumps or dump and pups combinations.
@robwhite3241
@robwhite3241 2 жыл бұрын
I seen a Peterbuilt cabover with one. I don't understand why anyone would want one unless you never go on hilly highway
@MCatSHF
@MCatSHF 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Doug Mitchell: "As for the 15 speed, they are basically a 10 speed with a deep reduction set below the low side. The lower gears are useful for some specialized needs, but were more common in on/off road trucks, like dumps or dump and pups combinations." X2! Great for farm trucks! It's nice to have that deep reduction when you're trying to get moving with a load of grain & your wheels have sunk 6 inches into the soft ground while the truck is sitting there while being loaded. Once you're up on hard ground on the road, shift out of deep reduction into low & you've got a 10 speed. Even taking off on hard ground with a heavy load it's nice to have, easier on the drivetrain to get that weight moving. Might be deep reduction 1, 2, 3, & then shift up to low 2, or deep reduction 1, 2, 3, 4, & then shift up to low 3. For my application, I won't give up my 15 speed.
@robwhite3241
@robwhite3241 2 жыл бұрын
@@MCatSHF That makes sense. What kinda truck you run? On our farm its too dry to get stuck so we run 13 speeds mostly.
@MCatSHF
@MCatSHF 2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhite3241 Hello Robert White: Freightliner FLD120 w/3406E & the 15 speed. Also nice to have the slower reverse when backing into tight quarters. Taking off empty on hard ground, I treat it as a 10 speed (5 low - 5 high).
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhite3241 . The Old 13 sp Direct Box actually has Lower LOW/LOW ratio than a 15 . 13 OD not . Same as 10 in Low .
@jeorgedavid3239
@jeorgedavid3239 2 жыл бұрын
Manual every day always love it
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@williansouza3779
@williansouza3779 2 жыл бұрын
Man. Missing your videos. Tks share your knolodge. Help me too much. See you soon.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@willhilpipre9524
@willhilpipre9524 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been around a 15 speed lately and I see some cons that a 13 would correct. The last two gears are flipped around on a 15. Takes getting used two
@kevinmazur1519
@kevinmazur1519 3 ай бұрын
I’m looking at a 2018 Volvo with a D-11 400k - automatic transmission miles, super singles and a drop axle. Been an owner operator most of 25 years- I have knee problem with clutch leg. I’ve always owned pre- def trucks. Please let me know what your thoughts are. Thank you and I appreciate your channel. God Bless.
@stupendouslife8128
@stupendouslife8128 10 ай бұрын
Question 🙋‍♂️ About durability and reliability of both, average mileage before any major repair or rebuild 🤔
@highwayman6447
@highwayman6447 5 ай бұрын
You are wrong about the 18 speed. It only has one ratio that is lower than the 13 speed. That is first gear. I have had both 13 and 18 speeds. I much prefer the 18 speed over the 13 speed. You have the ability to split the low side gears if you need them. If you don't, you don't have to use them. Another advantage is you don't have to have your splitter button on the low side when you down shift into low range. Still another great advantage is, you can skip three gears in the low side when you don't need the extra gears. It is very versatile and very nice with lots of options of shifting. If I'm running empty or bobtailing I can go through the gears and only use 7 gears to get up to speed if I want to. Or if I need them I have 18 gears😊
@jasonrc3976
@jasonrc3976 8 ай бұрын
I drive a manual 10 and 8 in the big city everyday and it sucked for the 1st year but now I barely notice when driving an auto vs manual.
@bitcoinlife9227
@bitcoinlife9227 2 жыл бұрын
Still have my CDL been out since 2015 my personal transmission to ise is super 10. I tried automatic and i dont like it feels like i dont have control of the truck. When i want to slowdown cant downshift. If you have jake brakes you will use that more and if you in city good luck on noise🤣🤣
@mrslyds8602
@mrslyds8602 2 жыл бұрын
There's is an automatic transmission and its the Allison trans. To me thats the best trans that I drove is a 7 speed Allison or a 6 speed. It's in all of our 6,7 axle dump trucks.
@tomt6040
@tomt6040 2 жыл бұрын
And - oh yeah have you ever tried to haul a heavy load on snowy roads in the mountains with an automated tranny -pretty much a no-go, shifting up & down, tires spinning when it downshifts, etc. NO THANKS
@vladimirpetrov6869
@vladimirpetrov6869 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, I have a question, Is it possible on a truck with a cummins ixs 15 engine before 2011 to install a volvo gearbox I shift? Thank you!
@Bigola
@Bigola 2 ай бұрын
drove manual truck just 3 months after CDL school, i don't if i can still operate it again it has been 6 years now
@user-zt6bt8dp2c
@user-zt6bt8dp2c 11 ай бұрын
I’m getting a new transmission have a 13 speed with a Cummins and running the PDI tuner. Is it worth upgrading my clutch to a 2050 torque?
@curtis73463
@curtis73463 Жыл бұрын
I have a ultrashift and doing a swap to an manual. If your electronics are not 100% low voltage or have a slight draw on your batteries it can cause havoc on a automated transmission cost you thousands can't even roll start an auto for what it's worth manual is the way to go in my opinion.
@CrainialCommando
@CrainialCommando 2 жыл бұрын
So is my understanding that an automated trans shifts like a pickup with manual and an automatic shifts like a fully automatic without the need for a clutch?
@powshredder3716
@powshredder3716 2 жыл бұрын
if you're driving mountains you need the 18 speed manual
@irishguy361
@irishguy361 2 жыл бұрын
13 speed manual for highway driving and 18 speed manual for heavy haul ..
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@catsbyondrepair
@catsbyondrepair 2 жыл бұрын
Real heavy haul use automatics
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@catsbyondrepair . Rubbish . Not True . Perhaps true in Japan . Not in USA or Australia .
@catsbyondrepair
@catsbyondrepair 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncunningham4820 you are showing how ignorant you are.
@neoone9820
@neoone9820 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even started the video and I will tell you I only drive standard!!
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@SeKeshtuMePelqen
@SeKeshtuMePelqen 2 жыл бұрын
Manual 4k automatic 20k
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@davidwatkins6687
@davidwatkins6687 2 жыл бұрын
True on automatics, not been able to find anyone to fix my problem, throwed about $4500 @ it and weeks without it. Still not fixed
@longhauler8963
@longhauler8963 2 жыл бұрын
What type of trans and what problem?
@davidwatkins6687
@davidwatkins6687 2 жыл бұрын
@@longhauler8963 16 peterbilt 579 ppaccar 455 10spd eaton. When loaded, 30k and above, climbing mountains so engine oil temp gets above 230°. As rpms lower to 1300 and ready to downshift, instead it starts slamming like engine is misfiring, reach over and manually drop a gear, immediately stops and you are accelerating or holding steady, no "misfire" . Same when you are topping the hill and you start backing off throttle for it to upshift because you are gaining speed and know you are about to descend down other side. At the point where it's about to shift it starts slamming again like a misfire. Usually takes a couple hundred miles before it does it. No codes. Impossible to carry a tech with me for a day until it does it. Peterbilt says can't find it. Paccar and eaton says nothing wrong with engine data. New clutch. Trans reprogrammed 10 to 12 times. Egr cleaned. Turbo replaced.
@gavnonadoroge3092
@gavnonadoroge3092 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwatkins6687 maybe worn/broken gear wheels inside transmission
@Saidoromo2024
@Saidoromo2024 Ай бұрын
What do you think about automated manual transmission truck
@nirlambghumman7398
@nirlambghumman7398 Жыл бұрын
Paccar stopped making their own and Eaton fuller makes them for Paccar
@Justt-y1b
@Justt-y1b 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take an 18 speed any day😊
@kennethperian4370
@kennethperian4370 2 жыл бұрын
Great job telling, I have two transmissions one is a 9 over road ranger and a 10 speed with a low range with 10 gears. The 9 over is a 1994 year truck it is out of 700.00 on the 9 over I have the truck a peterbelt . 3406 b motor cat, can you make a 13 speed out of one of these transmissions maybe the 9 over or the other one. Please send comment, well thanks for telling see ya later or next time see ya by.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
The 10 speed is definitely no. Some of the 9 speeds are convertible, you have to check the model number with Eaton.
@marquiserobinson895
@marquiserobinson895 Жыл бұрын
What brand is the worst automatic trans and what brand is the worst?
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 2 жыл бұрын
Ok , I’m a heavy duty diesel and OTR driver with my Class-A. I’ve driven 10’s, 13’s and the Volvo I-Shift. I absolutely love the I-Shift with the shifter handle mounted on the right side of the drivers seat. At first I didn’t like the I-Shift transmission Until I went for a ride with my supervisor to pickup a load and WOW what a ride. I said to myself I’m driving this truck completely Wong. Newbies to the I-Shift need someone to show them how it works. The Volvo with the I-Shift is a race car on 18 wheels. Their are other things I can do in a I-Shift truck that will get me killed in any other truck. Theirs three modes in the I-Shift , economy, performance, then manual mode. When I’m in tight traffic I-5 north in Olympia, Washington going around the Capital theirs some tight turns then uphill , I can manually shift the transmission right when I need it and really fast. Guys in trucks with manual transmissions cannot shift as fast as I can in a Volvo with the I-Shift transmission, it’s impossible. Also you never miss a shift. Another neat factor if the I-Shift transmission is in the automatic mode it will downshift and Jake brake going downhill faster then you can blink a eye, try that with a manual. Now let’s talk about snow and ice . The Volvo truck and I-Shift transmission with their traction control is totally awesome, I’ve never driven anything better. I totally hate 10 speeds , try doing a run from Portland, Oregon to Twin-falls, Idaho with a ten speed it sucks , you are shifting all the time. In ending you guys can have your manuals transmissions , I’ll take a I-Shift any day if the week, period. If anyone badmouths I-Shift transmissions they have never driven one or never been instructed on how to drive one correctly. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it, no compromise.
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
After you have to foot the Bill for a Repair , you might think differently .
@electroniccheeks
@electroniccheeks 2 жыл бұрын
As far as automated manual or automatic transmission. The I-shift is great. That being said I love the 18 speed the best.
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 2 жыл бұрын
@@electroniccheeks I’ve driven 13speed’s. With a 18spd you get more gears on the low end. So if you are pulling super heavy loads in extreme conditions yes then ok. I was running 75k to 80k total weight all the time , no problem. My biggest blowout with Peterbilts was going uphill out in the Pacific Northwest we go uphill and downhill a lot and the Pet’s would get me because they on average had 100 horsepower on me with 550 hp Cat engines. The Volvo Vectro motor was 453 hp so they would pass me all the time, that’s the big blowout.
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncunningham4820 Any transmission can fail. I never had a issue with them. The one important thing is if you have to move the truck by towing it , their is special instructions on how to do it. Basically you’ve got to disconnect the driveshaft every time or you will burnout the bearings in the transmission. The cost of a new transmission is over 35,000.00 dollars, so you better know what you are doing.
@electroniccheeks
@electroniccheeks 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMopar413 Like I said I like the I-shift the best. The rest of the truck is great until it breaks down. I would never own a Volvo. I would lease it for sure. That way when it breaks down I don't foot the bill.
@evguenimertodjan9783
@evguenimertodjan9783 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, can you skip the gears on 13 manual if you are empty or light loaded, and if yes, how it will affect the performance? Thank you!
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can skip the gears on 13 manual. I don’t affect the performance. It just like you drive a 9 speed
@B0RN2RACE100
@B0RN2RACE100 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Eaton would make a 15 speed but instead of a deep reduction it would have a mid range gears to lower the high range gear drop.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
You just described a 13 speed Overdrive Eaton .
@B0RN2RACE100
@B0RN2RACE100 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncunningham4820 how? I don’t mean to have a gear splitter, just a deep reduction on the higher gears, so you don’t have to run through the synchros every shift only during in/out of reduction. A 15 speed is technically also a 13 speed, because it only have 13 useful gears in either sequence.
@brianabbey3969
@brianabbey3969 9 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤ manuals the best good video
@virginiawilliams8947
@virginiawilliams8947 9 ай бұрын
I’m sure this is a dumb question to you but can I put a 1993 Toyota RE22 standard engine in an automatic 22RE automatic truck
@truckerdelz1560
@truckerdelz1560 2 жыл бұрын
Manual all day
@johnvelas70
@johnvelas70 Жыл бұрын
An Amish kid wants to know what the maintenance cost for the Allison RDS is vs an 8ll for a 5th wheel log truck?
@morrisdennis
@morrisdennis Жыл бұрын
I have a super 10, cheap & bulletproof, but i prefer a 13 speed...
@vineslinger
@vineslinger 2 жыл бұрын
In a big truck you make money by hauling more weight. What is the difference in weight between an automatic and a manual transmission.
@truckingandfixing
@truckingandfixing 2 жыл бұрын
There is not much difference in weight between manual and automated, because they are the same transmission, one is controlled by hand and the other is by computer. However, I would suspect the manual can handle a little better in weight, because you have more control over it.
@majdichabbeh
@majdichabbeh Жыл бұрын
learning to drive a truck (or a car imo) must be on manual with no option to learn on automatic: you learn how to shift and syncronize you shifting , understand the machine behavor on different gears and stuff. automaitc is simpler and easier(it shift for you that's it).
@6582rg
@6582rg 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts about large 5th wheel RVers pulling their rigs with automated semi’s registered as RVs without CDL endorsements? I guess it’s not much different than buying a 45’ class A motorhome and towing a vehicle behind it. ??
@martygt3357
@martygt3357 2 жыл бұрын
I have an easy question for you. Maintenance ? 18 speed vs automated. besides the higher cost of parts and labor to fix.... Labor and gear lube how often on the manual 150K? What is the maintenance requirements on an automated?
@williansouza3779
@williansouza3779 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Good questions. I would say to both. Scheduele to preventive maintenance to manual and auto?
@davidchapman1519
@davidchapman1519 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of twin sticks? Half my trucks have them.
@svtdavethechannel3035
@svtdavethechannel3035 2 жыл бұрын
Super 9
@michaelchason9170
@michaelchason9170 2 жыл бұрын
New auto KW gets 8 mpg loaded or empty.
@geoestrada5001
@geoestrada5001 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Kenworth t680 2018 automatic transmission 10 speed this truck it’s very dangerous going backwards it’s like wild horse but unfortunately needs improvement, I will trade it for 2022 Volvo 860 Ishif ,
@patrickdoyle9284
@patrickdoyle9284 2 жыл бұрын
22 kw 450cummins 12speed auto first 25000 mi 9.7mpg now broke in 10.3 mpg all at1180rpm
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