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T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land" documentary (1987)

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Manufacturing Intellect

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Read by noted actors Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins, T. S. Eliot’s The Waste Land powerfully expresses the disillusionment and disgust of the post-World War I era in Europe. In this program, Professor Frank Kermode, of Cambridge University; Eliot biographer Peter Ackroyd; and poets Sir Stephen Spender and Craig Raine examine the complex nature of Eliot’s influential poem, analyze its appeal, and trace the reasons why it became one of the best-known emblems of the 20th century.
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@ManufacturingIntellect
@ManufacturingIntellect 5 жыл бұрын
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@sunbry3766
@sunbry3766 Жыл бұрын
Mate, I just wanted to say. I must have watched hundreds of hours of videos you have uploaded and really benefitted from it. Thank you so much for taking the time to gather and upload the content. I have massively appreciated it
@michaeljudge5089
@michaeljudge5089 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I do take issue with that academic who summarily dismisses Yeats. Yeats could never have written The Wasteland; but Elliot could never have written Among School Children. That does not mean that one was “better” than the other. They were simply different poetic geniuses with different poetic concerns.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Quite agree. Don't like Yeats on the whole but some of his poetry is of the highest order. The two poets are from two entirely different eras, meaning their style is very different, but what they say is, of course, not dissimilar. The sentiments of 'The Waste Land' are not dissimilar to those of Yeats's magnificent 'The Second Coming'. There's also his 'Easter 1916', which is the best description I've read of fanaticism, applicable to the IRA, the Neo-Cons, ISIS, and Wokeism.
@arthurdubois9978
@arthurdubois9978 Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. But always felt Eliot was the greatest of the 20th century poet
@richardmindemann6935
@richardmindemann6935 Жыл бұрын
Yeats is great. Eliot is great. The academics rate Eliot higher, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
@anonymouslakernerd7214
@anonymouslakernerd7214 6 ай бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 What is "Wokeism?"
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 ай бұрын
​@@richardmindemann6935& in the ear...
@christopherreynolds4446
@christopherreynolds4446 Жыл бұрын
I have been teaching AP Literature for eight years. It all comes down to a sensitivity to language, tone, etc. and critical thinking and reading which leads, if successful, to critical writing. I’ll never retire because I get the honor of teaching Eliot, Yeats, Shakespeare, Faulkner. My students discuss the texts and I love the give and take. I know no one, including my fellow teachers, who can or want to discuss these authors
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I'm a teacher made in the same mold... it's a bottomless and profound joy.
@user-ic6nj4xo6q
@user-ic6nj4xo6q 10 ай бұрын
You like to give and take with your students Christopher because you know your fellow teachers are probably doing the same. It is a most definitely bottomless and extremely profound joy that not many people know about.
@MCompton-cv1ze
@MCompton-cv1ze 2 ай бұрын
I teach college British and American Literature; if you would accept a morsel of instructorly advise, inspire your students to begin analytical essays with textual quotations ...
@MCompton-cv1ze
@MCompton-cv1ze 2 ай бұрын
​@@peterfrengel3964 Puck hath no bottom ...
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 2 ай бұрын
@@MCompton-cv1ze Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.
@chewie1644
@chewie1644 4 жыл бұрын
I truly wish I had friends who appreciated such things, someone I could discuss this with. This poem may have possibly changed my life tonight. If only I were more intelligent, how I’d love to write this well.
@Andrew-jj6er
@Andrew-jj6er 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude! I feel you, I too wish I had friends to discuss this with... But here in the comments of this video if you want there are people who can appreciate your thoughts and you can have a good discussion with. I myself love this poem, I have discovered it just a few weeks ago and I keep going back to it in my mind during the day. So many lines are burned into my memory. I particularly love the quote:"We think about the key each in his prison" because I recognize the thoughts I have during the days and nights, looking for a way to escape the prison. If there is one.
@ryanx3584
@ryanx3584 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a go.. writing flowing words and rhyme and meter etc. Im sure you could write a poem and if you keep on at it....
@vincentanguoni8938
@vincentanguoni8938 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there are people here and everywhere that appreciate our thoughts!!!
@carolannemckenzie3849
@carolannemckenzie3849 2 жыл бұрын
Your prison is only a construct of your mind Andrew.
@joshhoodrat451
@joshhoodrat451 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought my prison to be my body and it’s limitations
@mondopinion3777
@mondopinion3777 2 жыл бұрын
These narrators are highly educated and cultured. But I was a Kansas farm girl in the1950s when i first read Prufrock and The Wasteland, and they spoke directly to me. This, I think, is the measure of Eliot's genius. What the thunder said -- words beyond this finite world..
@jbOneEarth
@jbOneEarth 2 жыл бұрын
And that's the good and bad of The Wasteland. Great lines to not a great poem make.
@oldjack-mi8gk
@oldjack-mi8gk 5 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest thing on KZfaq.
@stellaboulton9531
@stellaboulton9531 4 жыл бұрын
By some margin.
@btang1908
@btang1908 2 жыл бұрын
Such fond memories. Our teacher made us watch this when we were 17 and studying Eliot for our A levels. Now with hindsight, nearly 30 years later, I can't help but marvel at the trust our teacher had in our capabilities and the quality of education we were fortunate enough to receive.
@acockworkorange4301
@acockworkorange4301 2 жыл бұрын
in the whole wasteland.
@shanthisachi
@shanthisachi 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Wonderful
@sagat666
@sagat666 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm* I think the Jacob Bronowski interview on Parkinson, matches this admirably
@SheylayamGullath
@SheylayamGullath 3 жыл бұрын
I felt so moved watching this again after 30 years. Eliot's voice will be present there in the mountains whenever I go visit a cousin.
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 4 жыл бұрын
_"I will show you fear in a handful of dust..."_ One of the most muscular lines of poetry I've ever read...
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 жыл бұрын
what does this line mean?
@debbielt514
@debbielt514 3 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 Strength of your Mind..
@zharapatterson
@zharapatterson 3 жыл бұрын
Evelyn Waugh's book a Handful of Dust.
@doellt4753
@doellt4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 Death without meaning.
@jonathanwalkerpiano
@jonathanwalkerpiano 3 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 The "handful of dust" is an obvious reference to the soil thrown by mourners on a coffin once it has been lowered into the grave. But there is another reference that gives the passage a much richer meaning. If you look back to the Latin/Greek epigraph at the beginning of The Waste Land. The Sybill of Cumae was once a beautiful prophetess in the service of Apollo. Desiring her, Apollo asked her to name her wish, and she told him that she wanted to live as many years as there were particles in a handful of dust. She rejected his advances, but he granted her wish. She forgot, however, to say that she wanted perpetual youth, and over the years, she grew ever more decrepit. The lines Eliot chose are from a Latin comic novel; at an extravagant dinner party, the Sybil is referred to, now a tiny wizened creature. Some boys ask her (in Greek) what she wants now, and she replies that she wants death - further life in this state of debilitation is meaningless for her, and only a burden. Eliot may be saying, through this reference, that a life lived out in futility is a more fearful thing than death itself.
@triconcert
@triconcert 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic experience! So many years later and still so relevant. Edward Fox is really superb and embodies the poem. HIs is a musical and rhythmic rendition which makes the lines luminously intelligible.
@matthewmeselson1562
@matthewmeselson1562 Жыл бұрын
I’m in
@danielclemence3689
@danielclemence3689 Ай бұрын
Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins were absolute treasures. Listening to them is a magnificent experience.
@jonisaacson9253
@jonisaacson9253 2 жыл бұрын
As a Minnesotan, I'm pleased to see that Eliot could attract 13,700 fans to Williams Arena at the U of MN, almost as many as show up there for a basketball game.
@kevinlawrence2229
@kevinlawrence2229 3 жыл бұрын
"I had not thought death had undone so many." Just an amazing line. I think of this line everyday when I watch crowds I belong to (very Whitmanesque) joining me on the subway.
@manuelroco8510
@manuelroco8510 2 жыл бұрын
Sí de verdad es un verso impresionante! Pero hay que recordar que Eliot "roba" de otros poetas, en este caso menciona uno de sus poetas favoritos, o sea Dante. Inferno III, 55-57: “si lunga tratta di gente, ch'io non avrei mai creduto che morte tanta n'avesse disfatta.”
@weemalky
@weemalky 2 жыл бұрын
An allusion to Dantes inferno. So clever.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
I think of that line every time I walk across London Bridge
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@weemalky The whole poem is replete with references to other work. What an astonishing mind he must have had.
@electraruby4078
@electraruby4078 2 жыл бұрын
@@timwatts9371 Such as" Goodnight sweet ladies" in the pub scene. Ophelia's lines of course!
@michaellangsdorf1683
@michaellangsdorf1683 2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel and I’m grateful that the first video I’ve watched was about T.S. Eliot, one of my favorite poets. The view of humanity of “The Wasteland” seems particularly resonant during these times.
@ashthebash66
@ashthebash66 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear Stephen Spender. One of his poems opening lines has become a constant mantra for me since I first read it in my early twenties - 'we must live through the time when everything hurts'
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
@mickzammit6794
@mickzammit6794 Жыл бұрын
I am 71 years old and I've loved Eliot since I was a small boy. The dry Sauvages,little Gidding and others were what I loved to read in silence and at night. I always have had a deep feeling that there was prophesy among his words. There are wordlers of which I'm one and then there's Eliot
@dennisroyhall121
@dennisroyhall121 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, but what an immensely beautiful and most welcome surprise to greet one’s day! Thank you a million times over!
@trcochran5947
@trcochran5947 Жыл бұрын
I could read this poem every day for a year and still not come to its end.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I spent a summer reading and re-reading it - looking up the allusions, the snippets in other languages, the critical commentary, the context. It really does pay off with repeated reading and study. I teach it to my seniors now.
@Lyndanet
@Lyndanet 7 ай бұрын
Try reading it for 30 years and never tiring of it
@trcochran5947
@trcochran5947 6 ай бұрын
@@Lyndanet I will! :)
@anonymouslakernerd7214
@anonymouslakernerd7214 6 ай бұрын
You can't get through it either, huh?
@Roshandoug
@Roshandoug 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely programme! Thoroughly enjoyed it... Some excellent personalities here whilst Eliot is just so utterly brilliant. Full stop.... Thank you to whoever posted this gem.
@nehavashishtha1072
@nehavashishtha1072 2 жыл бұрын
I’m beginning to love Mr. T.S. Eliot more and more as I am ageing. It is astonishing to see the amount of rationality and thoughts Mr. Eliot was loaded with from such an early age.
@InsideTheGlobe
@InsideTheGlobe Жыл бұрын
Our professor of Modern English literature at the University often used to say, if you wanna know the spirit of modern English poetry, there's only one option for you, that's TS Eliot. Really, this person has combined all the knowledge he got from his studies of around the world and poured that into his poetries, especially in The Hollow Men and The Wasteland, to make these "unreal".
@sr-gc6vh
@sr-gc6vh Жыл бұрын
He was an anti semite and a religious conservative.
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Gough's reading is simply sublime
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard that reading. Have you hear Alec Guiness’ reading?
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation. I read T.S.Eliot in college, 40 years ago, together with other stuffs and the only poet from the 20th century that I still read time and again, is T.S.Eliot. The rest is gone.
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Wilde As bigmouthed of you
@SuperGuanine
@SuperGuanine 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjoe6908 ??? what does that mean?
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperGuanine That was a reply to a reply now deleted by somebody I was replying to.
@saimariaz5299
@saimariaz5299 3 жыл бұрын
Eliot is one of the most wonderful poet in the history of English Literature.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
He's v great, but I'd say Shakespeare.
@TedPope
@TedPope 2 жыл бұрын
Eliot needed an editor to tell him The Waste Land contained at least twice as many words as it should and to verbally if not physically slap the anti-Semite out of him.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
@@TedPope Interesting info. Thank you. Q. The him at the end means himself, no?
@jamesdolan4042
@jamesdolan4042 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of range, topics, relevance, and invention WB Yeats far exceeds TS Elliot as the greatest English language poet of the the 20th century.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdolan4042 Yes!!
@kathymyron1658
@kathymyron1658 4 жыл бұрын
I barely breathed while listening to this. Wonderful!
@amssaid9583
@amssaid9583 3 жыл бұрын
Y breath at all
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. I loved hearing Thomas Stearn Eliot’s voice. What a true treasure. Thank you
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 2 жыл бұрын
Stearns
@tmac8892
@tmac8892 4 жыл бұрын
I should have been a pair of ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
@lyndapierson6338
@lyndapierson6338 3 жыл бұрын
my mother in a nut shell
@TheHorse_yes
@TheHorse_yes 3 жыл бұрын
"Mutt! You mutt!" *throws food*
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorse_yes “and with a whimper I’m f****g splitting jack”
@youtubesucks2821
@youtubesucks2821 2 жыл бұрын
"And he meant it"
@curtrice6060
@curtrice6060 Жыл бұрын
How do I thank, youtube, for such wonderful variety! ❤
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 Жыл бұрын
I've met fully qualified college professors who say The Wasteland is NOT about the world after WW1. They have the stones to suggest it is more than that. Of course there are layers, it has depth, but it is a vision of life after the first, most devastating event in human history.
@poemsandliterature3011
@poemsandliterature3011 4 жыл бұрын
16:10 Vorticism 21:00 best explanation - underneath the surface exist murmerings of past poets 22:57-26:26 Game of Chess narration 27:25 Range of characters 27:31 Conversation in pub discussed 29:42 River Tent is broken 30:58 Personal life of Eliot - Marriage Unreal city 35:06 Key figure - Tiresias
@poemsandliterature3011
@poemsandliterature3011 2 жыл бұрын
watched this again. Can watch it again and again. Timeless poem, and a wonderful documentary ..
@genabla
@genabla 2 жыл бұрын
Thak You🙏
@eoharafisher
@eoharafisher 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of reading Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock. Also amazing poem.
@dion1949
@dion1949 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful in every way. I especially appreciated Peter Ackroyd, as I have read some of his novels.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 3 жыл бұрын
His book (biography) on Eliot is very good.
@zamiadams4343
@zamiadams4343 7 ай бұрын
Such an amazing poem, Burroughs mentioned it as an example of the cut-up technique.
@writeract2
@writeract2 2 жыл бұрын
I so love the plummy RP tones of the readings.
@winniewang3846
@winniewang3846 3 жыл бұрын
I love this so much and couldn't thank you more for this while living in the wasteland!
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
Eileen Atkins is so young! A great reader & lovely looking. 😍
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 ай бұрын
"Fear, in a handful of dust." A perfect line.
@iansmith511
@iansmith511 11 ай бұрын
What a wonderful film, Eileen Atkins is superb too. Yes,I am very impressed with this measured piece of work.
@thomaskirkpatrick1134
@thomaskirkpatrick1134 5 жыл бұрын
Another Fantastic Melvyn Bragg Production!
@electraruby4078
@electraruby4078 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this is so powerful! To describe bleakness of spirit so well. What a genius.
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Ай бұрын
I read a story once - maybe reported by Princess Margaret - that T S Elliot once gave a private reading of ' The Wasteland ' to the Windsors at Buckingham Palace . Now we may have cause to thank the late Queen , and her parents , for contributions to Britain , but we could never accuse them of being overly intellectual. Apparently they thought the reading hilarious and had a barely restrained fit of the giggles . I say this to point out that appreciation of poetry is a matter of sensitivity rather than ' breeding ' .
@Mahlerweber
@Mahlerweber Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, especially the actors. Thank you for posting.
@poetryjones7946
@poetryjones7946 2 жыл бұрын
TS Eliot is one of my very favorite poets, but I just can’t listen to him perform 😸😹❤️ Wonderful documentary, I didn’t know this existed! Thank you so much for sharing it!
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
He was not a good reader of his own work. Nor were Yeats or Pound. Eliot sounds like he's impersonating Churchill, while Yeats and Pound both sound insane.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Horse for courses. I think TSEliot himself and perhaps Alec Guinness are the only ones who know how to read Eliot's work properly. Same for EPound (after many years still remember listening to a bad recording of his reading: 'Pull down thy vanity. I say pull down.') Tom Hiddleston's rendition of Pound's 'And the days are not full enough', for example, is sincere but to my ear not good at all. Poetry is best read without adding any sense of profundity -- let the poetry speak for itself.
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 A problem I have with Elliot's readings is that, being a poet myself and a pedant with metre, Elliot's notion of metre was democratic, in the sense he believed the reader was right when reading a poem to either pick up on it or ignore it. So when he read his work aloud he ignored his own metre. He knew what he'd intended acoustically with his lines, but didn't read them that way. To my ear, it makes for a flat reading. When I write my own poetry, I'm so fastidious that I place accents over stressed syllables, a la GM Hopkins, that I don't think some readers will pick up on, so as to avoid any confusion.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
@@iainrobb2076 Believe Yeats too insisted on 'metrical reading'. Believe both types of reading can be overdone and be well done. The most disagreeable is, to me, when someone 'enacts' the poem. Actors are worst of all.
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 Oh, I totally agree with that. It's why I can't bear most modern adaptations of Shakespeare. The actors just have to read the lines, and read them well. Instead, they read enjambed lines directly into one another, ignore all accentuation, and gibber, shriek and yell at a breakneck speed and volume, and all that comes out is an incomprehensible din. They feel they need to overact to get the point across instead of paying deference to the intentions of the poet.
@Idmoment
@Idmoment Жыл бұрын
Can never get enough of Eliot’s beautiful mind
@lindsaytulloch8316
@lindsaytulloch8316 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating documentary about a poem that I have loved since I first read it at the age of 20. And the actors reading the excerpts are absolutely marvellous - especially Eileen Atkins, in my opinion, but the two men too. With one bizarre exception, in the scene on the Thames, where the Rhinemaidens are quoted: Weialala leia, Wallala leialala. Never heard anything so bizarre in my life. Could he not have listened to a recording of Rheingold, to find out how it's supposed to be pronounced?
@pchabanowich
@pchabanowich 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Gough is sublime, his subtlety spellbinding...👍
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Ай бұрын
Yes wonderful. So many good English actors other than Johnny and Larry .
@victoriazinovieff308
@victoriazinovieff308 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary, so glad I found it..
@musicloverkathy
@musicloverkathy 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and prophetic. These fragments I have shored against my ruin. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. Lips that would kiss form prayers to broken stone.
@ManInTheBigHat
@ManInTheBigHat 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this poem from 10th grade English class. So glad my school covered this work. I can't imagine that happening now.
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, far too white.
@barrypenobscott9882
@barrypenobscott9882 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're more interested in promoting the likes of Maya Angelou, or Eminem.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I'm teaching it to my seniors at this very moment.
@scantii2117
@scantii2117 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see these documentaries on youtube I've had them on my old video cassettes for decades and would watch them from time to time but I see you haven't got the Proust documentary which to my mind is the best one and I still have it but it's getting grainy and unclear love to see the Proust documentary on your channel.
@Cromwelldunbar
@Cromwelldunbar 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful document…Cannot thank you enough for making it available for our viewing….
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Ай бұрын
In the mid 1970's i ended up as a student at the Royal Sea Bathing Hospital Margate . It was a difficult time for me and i recall sitting in a shelter on Margate seafront ,on many occasions, contemplating life and my place in it . This was most often in winter when english coastal towns can be particularly bleak . As part of my contemplations i had started reading about Eastern Philosophy. Later on i cane to know if T S Elliott and The Wastekand and noticed the vedantic references therein . A couple of years ago i had a rae visit to Margate and discovered a Blue Plaque on that seafront shelter informing that Elliot had written some if ' The Wasteland ' there !
@CippiCippiCippi
@CippiCippiCippi 3 жыл бұрын
According to poet Craig Raine 46:04, there are three main strands in the poem: fertility myths, Christ & the resurrection, and buddhist reincarnation.
@gregbee8791
@gregbee8791 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Not seen this for over 30 years.
@poetryjones7946
@poetryjones7946 2 ай бұрын
Prufrock still blows this away.
@nathanbranson9149
@nathanbranson9149 4 ай бұрын
My Gen Z student deeply connect with "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock." They connect with this overthinking and his self-loathing.
@manuelroco8510
@manuelroco8510 2 жыл бұрын
Intento comprender algo, lástima que mi inglés sea tan pobre pero la fascinación que ejerce la poesía de T S Eliot es inmensa y me "obliga" escuchar todo lo escuchable (aunque poco o nada entienda) para conocerle lo más posible!
@SheylayamGullath
@SheylayamGullath 2 жыл бұрын
Escuchar poesía en su lengua original es como un mantra; aunque no entendamos sus palabras ésta obra prodigios en uno y nos da gozo inefable.
@emilio5737
@emilio5737 2 жыл бұрын
@@SheylayamGullath Te llevará tiempo entenderlo en inglés, pero la recompensa será sublime. A no desistir.
@deborahrobertson8606
@deborahrobertson8606 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you,
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Atkins is truly great ❤
@sibengerard1856
@sibengerard1856 4 жыл бұрын
When you read Eliot's Criticism of Shakespeare, you get the feeling he secretly felt not thought, that he could do better than the latter,at certain intervals. But of course he wasn't going to mention it.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 2 жыл бұрын
many times he is shakespearian esp in 4 quartets.
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it
@vijayadas3317
@vijayadas3317 2 жыл бұрын
The only one single poem which has the status of a classic; a classic of epic proportions, I remember how e I electrified we were when this poem was taught to us by our English professor way back in the early 70s,
@RwakaendanaMambo
@RwakaendanaMambo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. It explains a lot about Eliot's insights to life during his time and his predictions for the future to come based on his experiences at the time.
@lexistenceestailleurs
@lexistenceestailleurs 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel
@Healthymuscles_gr
@Healthymuscles_gr Жыл бұрын
Eileen Atkins reading T.S is the best thing I have heard in my life. 🔥💪 And also La Muerta from Juliet Stevenson.
@Vic-on5ic
@Vic-on5ic 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation!
@spellboundtarot1264
@spellboundtarot1264 3 жыл бұрын
What a masterpiece!
@brouettesylvie8077
@brouettesylvie8077 3 жыл бұрын
bits of Dante , bits of Baudelaire, bits of Villon, bits of Laforgue...
@1968KWT
@1968KWT Жыл бұрын
The poem was published exactly 100 years ago in the October issue of _The Criterion_ #TheWasteLand100
@marilyngreen6872
@marilyngreen6872 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. Thank you.
@c.s.hayden3022
@c.s.hayden3022 2 жыл бұрын
I’m reading “From Ritual To Romance” now and this compliments.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
'this complEments'?
@1061andy
@1061andy 2 жыл бұрын
We did this for A level, hadnt got a clue what it was all about !
@Euracaille
@Euracaille 5 жыл бұрын
*Thank you* for sharing this with us all! Great contributions from all involved made it a delight indeed to help further explore and celebrate that work of art.
@srothbardt
@srothbardt 2 жыл бұрын
Look for "He do the police in different voices," a line from "Our Mutual Friend" by Dickens. This is apparently where Eliot got the idea and title for the original version of "The Waste Land."
@ArthurLWood
@ArthurLWood 2 жыл бұрын
“Much much better than Yeats”… not sure I would go that far!
@joekl7556
@joekl7556 2 жыл бұрын
well, Modernity- wise it is hugely invigorating in form, and in a way looking at the "simple, modern man" as Yeats was maybe reluctant to do. but it may be on account of being an American... the Technique of Collage is contemporaneously VITAL! can you imagine the 21st centaury apart it?
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Ай бұрын
Let's not forget the narrator Melvyn Bragg . He has contributed much himself to English cultural life .
@robertmuncaster3510
@robertmuncaster3510 5 ай бұрын
A hard read but he brings out the meaning through the sprung rhythm. Well done.
@stjohnperse17
@stjohnperse17 4 жыл бұрын
21:35 "...echoes of Villon, " For Francois Villon, XV C. french poet.
@cyclopslester10
@cyclopslester10 4 жыл бұрын
Speak again, to us, Villon.
@markwestphal4437
@markwestphal4437 Жыл бұрын
Poor Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead...they just panned right over the part that was immediately accessible, recognizable, and touchingly simple. I love the polyglot international references and character shifts in the poem's entirety, but that lovely short section is so universal, it seems a shame to not at least tip at hat towards it.
@anuradhainamdar8967
@anuradhainamdar8967 Жыл бұрын
What splendid explanation though I had this poem in my M.A couse.I found " the waste land " very difficult to understand. It is now that I have understood it a bit. Now also I find the poem abstruse. Thanks for uploading this video.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
Calculus, physics, trig, etc., can also be abstruse. They take effort to learn, and reward that effort.
@robkidd5214
@robkidd5214 2 жыл бұрын
April is the cruelest month. Indeed..
@nickandmikec
@nickandmikec Жыл бұрын
Eliot was a fine poet and an important one, but there were others who didn't wear their learning on their sleeve as Eliot and Pound did. Robert Frost once said "Eliot and Pound were into bric-a-brac. They studied that." He was alluding to their allusions to works of literature that few had read, certainly not the common reader. Other poets such as Walt Whitman, Emily Dickinson, Wallace Stevens, William Carlos Williams, E.E. Cummings, Elizabeth Bishop, Marianne Moore, and many other poets. Some poets are not well-known, but their works are considered important by some who are aware of their work. Poets such as Josephine Miles, Louise Bogan, Edna St. Vincent Millay; but there are others who go unrecognized whose poetry is remarkable. Bert Meyers comes to mind as do poems by Benjamin Saltman, Ann Stanford, and a plethora of others whose poems few have read. There is much to like beyond Eliot and Pound. Is Eliot's contribution to poetry really more important than Robert Frost's poetry, or sundry others whose is far less known? A professor of mine once asked me who I thought was a fine poet. I mentioned Carl Sandburg. He replied, "Don't be so typically bucolic, Mr. Campbell." I thanked him and he said, "It was not intended as a compliment." I said, "I receive it as one, Dr. Williams, I am a bucolic." Eliot's "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" is one of my favorite poems, It is a strikingly beautiful original work. Personally, I prefer the poetry of William Stafford to Eliot. There are books of poems such as James Wright's "The Branch will not Break" that are lyrically stunning; Robert Francis' "The Orb Weaver" also published by Wesleyan University Press, is another collection of poems that is quite memorable. Recently, I have come to appreciate the poetry of Dana Gioia. His collected poems in his book, "99 Poems" is excellent. A poet can write great poetry and not be known. How many readers, college students among them, know Eugenio Montale's poems. How many discuss the poems of French poets Jacques Prevert or Francois Dodat; Was not Charles Baudelaire as original a poet as Eliot or Pound? One of the annoying things about such documentaries is there is so much more to appreciate than is represented here. One should also include the lyrics of songwriters such as Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen, Cat Stevens, and countless others. If one is honest, much of Eliot's work is enigmatic. That said, we are better having gone there.
@ericchristen2623
@ericchristen2623 Жыл бұрын
A Dash Of Hope Sometimes I wake up Listen to the birds And my heart is glad My spirit elevated 'Oh' says a part of me An impulse crying out 'I've got to share this With my mom!' Deep down A younger me imagines He will make a call And mother will be there To answer And enjoy my good news To share our love For nature But soon A bitter scythe Cuts shorr My hope My naive daydream And I fall A thousand miles Im a split second To a place Where my mother is not To the everpresent now Where my lovely old mom No longer exists Eric Christen 2020 (Nobody Famous - a book of 150 poems dedicated to a mother)
@iansmith511
@iansmith511 11 ай бұрын
Fair play to you mate,I was impressed with your words, thanks for sharing them. Keep writing and try to enjoy it too.
@richardmcneil6538
@richardmcneil6538 Жыл бұрын
So fantastic! Brilliant!,,
@lesleymcshanemitchell9651
@lesleymcshanemitchell9651 Жыл бұрын
How I loved this Thank you
@mikeletaurus4728
@mikeletaurus4728 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant.
@dion1949
@dion1949 3 жыл бұрын
Ackroyd speaks of Eliot's "music," which recalls Ackroyd's novel "English Music".
@susanvictoriamorley6705
@susanvictoriamorley6705 Жыл бұрын
Superb
@elliegasser1575
@elliegasser1575 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tomripsin730
@tomripsin730 2 жыл бұрын
16:57 Every time they show this guy I picture Alex and his droogs rushing in, toppling his bookshelves and having at him and his wife.
@rerite2
@rerite2 2 жыл бұрын
== "Singing in the rain..."
@CarefulObserver1
@CarefulObserver1 3 күн бұрын
Ha ha, yep! Substitute Patrick Magee for that guy...
@HowTheyWeep
@HowTheyWeep Жыл бұрын
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock was written after he'd left America, Eliot had began the work whilst in Paris on his foreign scholarship.
@ruivog
@ruivog 3 жыл бұрын
Most excellent doc.
@jimtruscott5670
@jimtruscott5670 2 жыл бұрын
The comments by Mr.Raine that Eliot is “ greater than Yeats”and that “ every thing in twentieth century poetry is founded “ on him are laughable on their face to anyone who has read and understood early twentieth century poetry in English and the modernist movement, about which Mr. Raine should educate himself. Pound( who isn’t even mentioned,a sure sign that Mr. Raine doesn’t know what he’s talking about),Yeats and Eliot …all three… are the triumvirate of poets upon whom twentieth century poetry in English is founded. There is a substantial body of scholarship and criticism which attests to this , which Mr. Raine might profit from reading, beginning with Hugh Kenner’s The Pound Era . He might take a look at Pound’s revisions of the Waste Land in manuscript at Yale’s Beinecke Library; I, for one, have read them.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 2 жыл бұрын
pound was "il melior fabbro" eliot was the true artist. yeats was ust average.
@jimtruscott5670
@jimtruscott5670 2 жыл бұрын
@@siamcharm7904 First of all, it’s” il miglior fabbro”, “the better maker”(craftsman).Eliot recognized Pound for his superiority at prosody,ie he was for Eliot the greater artist, but of course your opinion is more valid than Eliot’s 😁😁😁. Yeats was certainly one of the five greatest poets in English of the 20th century,as many poets, critics, scholars and others have attested, but of course your opinion is more valid 😁😁😁 You have made some of the most ignorant and stupid comments on poetry ever, EVER.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think he doesn't know what he's talking about, merely that he's a young academic with predictably strong views. He also doesn't mention the oft-unmentioned but highly accomplished (and by some called an) early modernist Thomas Hardy's later poetry, admired by both Eliot and Pound.
@jimtruscott5670
@jimtruscott5670 2 жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 He doesn’t know what he’s talking about,” a young academic with predictably strong views “( apparently he’s a poet).
@clive7092
@clive7092 Жыл бұрын
Great readers. Fox is utterly magnetic. Gough too. Not forgetting Eileen Atkins.
@sargondp69
@sargondp69 4 жыл бұрын
A banker, a burglar: I sat by the waters of Meribah and wept. Ex 17; Nu 20.
@dmswanson5694
@dmswanson5694 2 жыл бұрын
Superb.
@mns8732
@mns8732 2 жыл бұрын
The poem with notes and editing by pound was available at one time.
@asamhas2012
@asamhas2012 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest thing I've ever heard.
@krishnantampi5665
@krishnantampi5665 Жыл бұрын
No comments because it's great poetry with fantastic metaphor allegory and beyond laymans fancy. Sky
@deeplearningpartnership
@deeplearningpartnership 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. He was, of course an American and I would assume that his English accent is an affectation given that he didn't move here until he was 27. It is so far back (although presumably of its time) that he's hard to follow at times. Fortunately, we've got Jeremy Iron's masterful interpretation.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 3 жыл бұрын
He's of Anglo American heritage. Eliot spent summers in Cape Ann which has the English named Gloucester, Essex and Manchester-by-the-sea. He went to Harvard at the turn of the century. Listen to the accent of Eleanor Roosevelt, wife of President F. D. Roosevelt. The poem is a modern masterpiece. Still relevant.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 3 жыл бұрын
@@hazelwray4184 Thanks for those points of detail Hazel - it helps explain his accent more fully. I do love the poem too, especially Jeremy Iron's reading of it.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds very affected. Rather like Harry Enfield’s character, Mr Cholmondley-Warner
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 2 жыл бұрын
@@timwatts9371 sounds like a boston brahmin which he very much was.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@siamcharm7904 They sound like that? Thanks for that piece of information. I’ve heard a few different readings and I thibk Alec Guiness is the best.
@jbOneEarth
@jbOneEarth 2 жыл бұрын
I think Elliot was right in his ambivalence about his evolving work for both the confidence, command, and wallop of its powerhouse lines and its clang of hodgepodge associations and singsong. English is not a rhyme rich language. Repeat. Giving Elliot the benefit of his own doubts, I wish he'd had the confidence to resist Pound's meddling. If a work in progress, it had been best left at that hopefully to mature over time. The distillation encouraged by Pound devolves into both nursery rhyme and obsession bordering on the trite. The exploration of Elliot as a man savaged by inequities yields insight and compassion more valuable than the evaluation of his poetry. Art after all is at best an offering of human size. A life bears divine imprint and inspiration. For that I thank this effort most.
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