True, but a Sisyphean task is literally the process of failing to get a rock where you want it to go, so in that regard it's even worse...

Maybe they just really wanted to capitalize on the "Never give up" mentality. :D

@@ManyATrueNerd I heard once, though I dont remember where, that we can imagine Sisyphus is fullfilled moving bolders uphill more than he wanted to get the boulder on top of the hill. Once his task is completed and his purpose evaporates, the boulder rolls back down and he has purpose again. We can imagine Sisyphus is completely fullfilled, then strive to become Sisyphus.

@@ManyATrueNerd Yes, but I can't think a good company would require pressure plates to open doors or cloning to go up and down levels. I'd think it would be more cost effective to install stairs and doorknobs. So, really, the name is far from the worst part of the company's business plan.

​@@YHLGguitargeek "The struggle itself ... is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy". It's from Camus'... His thing. With the name. The Hades team also came to that interpretation completely oblivious of the quote and Camus.

Ahh, but the trick is right now it's going for like $2

@@ManyATrueNerd Big Brain move right there!

@@ManyATrueNerd Ah, I was content enough, since I got it as one of the games on PlayStation Plus at the time. I have a feeling you still got better value overall though! $2 is an absolute steal. It's a great little puzzler. 💪💪

I only played it 3 years ago, when it was on Game Pass (which at the time I did the upgrade for $1 thing so played it for $1). And yeah, was an enjoyable game.

I guess that explains the greek mythological connection.

Something I loved about Soma is that it didn't leave the typical questions open-ended. The game started with questions about "who's the real one" and was very clear there was a simple answer to that: "The idea of originality is a pointless distinction when it comes to the idea of cloned consciousness. A cloned consciousness is simultaneously both the original and not the original." Instead it moved on to THE CONSEQUENCES of that conclusion. Soma doesn't explore the philosophical implications of cloning too much, instead it explores the ethical and moral consequences of the philosophical position it *does* take.

@@kabobawsome Wrong. The answer is that the original is the original, and the cloned consciousness is a new entity, separate entity that branched off from the original. SPOILER . . . . In the case of SOMA, however, it's even simpler: it's a robot running human.exe, simulating a personality. There are no ethical or moral concerns, as it's literally walking NPCs; simulations of people doing what the programming said the actual person would do. Claiming that there are ethical or moral concerns there is akin to wondering if it's ok to kill giant rats in video games.

@@SomeUnsoberIdiot no, you're totally wrong. the robots are running simulations of functioning human brains, there is no difference between a simulated brain and a real one

Except that, as I said, one is real and the other a fiction. One is an actual human, the other is a simulator. One is human, the other is a program emulating a human. "there is no difference between a simulated brain and a real one" is simply false. And even if it were as you think, the human consciousness is more than the brain; practically everything, down to the bacteria in your guts, influences your thoughts and behaviour. I mean, really. You're saying that a robot is the same as a human if the floppy disk your insert into it is good enough. Maybe you'd also argue that the code that makes up human.exe should have rights, and that not running it would be unethical or some nonsense like that. And where would you draw the line? How accurate would the program need to be? 100%? 99.999%? 90%? And what if it's not a copy of an actual person, but an original or mismash program that created a "new person"? Would you consider that human? What if it did not claim to be a human? What if it behaved in a weird way? You just claim that it's a person because it looks and sounds like it. In other words, because the NPC is well-written and has good graphics, it's a real boy. My point stands.

@@SomeUnsoberIdiot My friend, either you did not play Soma or you did not understand it lmao

I just started that game today! I'm loving it so far!

Yeah. right before A Good Man Goes To War.

He actually played The Turing Test. I think he finished it, but I stopped watching since I wanted to play it myself. I thought he did a one off play of The Talos Principle but I didn't see it when I searched.

I think it's very creepy

Nah, the ending is more interesting than that

Do you mean Prometheus? Sisyphus had the boulder.

@@mandymaclean1055 I somewhat think I do. Bugger!

Isn't that basically the same thing?

@@trogdor8764 A portal? If it's just a literal hole in space you can walk through then it should be totally safe, assuming the technology that made it is stable. It would be like walking through a regular door.

I'd say Sisyphus is better. It implies the mission will never be completed while Icarus implies it'll just fail because you're overreaching.

Happy New Year!!

and escaping death

Well that wall isn't going to build itself.

'This new ship I've just bought is honestly titanic in scale.'

@@ManyATrueNerd Have you enjoyed Starship Titanic yet?

Yeah, that's nearly 80 years late on the song, and several more well known films, a TV series and a play - and of course an expression before those.

Wow you really thought G-Eazy coined that phrase?

By that logic, the title would imply Jon or Claire are into Metallica But that would be stupid