If you are in the area come and try the Time ADHX. If not try out a Cervelo Caledonia,

Second the Caledonia

Umm. I would say come and try the ADHX, but the Bb386 EVO and internal routing might not rock your easy to maintain box

That would be the dream but a bit on the pricey side. I can’t say internal cables bother me a great deal and your BB video has converted me to the BB365evo

I think it's probably best to understand geometry and not be concerned with the labels.

The Domane has so many flexy bits and bobs they creak from everywhere! They also sit you really upright with the weight bias on the saddle. makes the front wheel light and give you a sore butt.

​@@MapdecFunny. I have been considering getting a custom frame based on Domane geometry 🤷‍♂️

​@Mapdec Have you ridden the SL6 Gen4 for a period of time? It has a fixed, non-adjustable rear ISO speed and that is it (not so many flexi bits you mention). Granted its not racebike, but I wouldn't say I'm sat so sat upright when I want to make progress (I'm more legs than torso). Paired with some Carbon 40's and 30C Pirelli P-Zero's, I can't fault it as an all-rounder.

The new propel feels very nippy these days.

I’m going to commit to yoga and stretching to make sure that day never comes. We have a 75 year old member of our gym that rides slammed stems and TT bikes. Inspiration.

​@@Mapdec Impressive stuff! I hope I can still ride regularly when I'm 75. At 39, I currently feel fitter than I have been since I was a kid. Some of that may be due to my Alpe d'Huez though. 😂 Especially now it has Roval Alpinist CLX wheels on it... Interested to know why you have the Venon in the workshop? Guessing something to do with Wiggle laying off all their staff before having sold all their bikes...

@@SichardRamuels a venon? Where did you spot that?

@@Mapdec It was late last night that I watched the video, but I'm sure you or Jake mentioned having a Vitus Venon in at the moment.

we will try, quite a lot going on right now. thanks so much for watching.

For sure. I mean they just raced Paris Roubaix on stiff aero bikes. Experience, fitness and conditioning has the biggest role to play.

Yes, I think the answer is less marketing BS and some info on geo choice.

@@Mapdec ………exactly 👍

haha, it depends on the size, That frame is a mess. In my size, which would have to be an XL (lol) it would be a crit racing bike. Short, steep, low trail, low stack. In the small sizes its more like a TT bike. in the middle sizes its more like an endurance bike. They haven't done a good job of sizing. I suspect they have tried to reduce the amount of moulds required and tried to squeeze it all together.

I’m not stepping into that cat fight

@@Mapdec 🤣🤣🤣 do a Kickstarter campaign

What have you tried to push your weight further forward instead and have some control of your front wheel? 0 layback post, steeper seat angles, etc

Other than a shorter stem, not much. I do have a zero set back post for a different bike build but I'm hesitant to put my weight too far forward because my hands are already going numb. Although I have wondered of that's bike fit or lack of core conditioning. I am planning on using a narrower and shorter reach drop bar for my old steel Trek 400 series from the early 80s.

@@jrother moving your saddle further forward will open hip angle. But then do something with it. Sadly numb hands is nearly always a core issue. You can solve by making bars higher and higher, but then you get a sore butt and zero glute activity.

Mine is steel: Ritchey

@daniels.2720 I haven't rode a steel bike since my last BMX in 1996; it's been two 6061 aluminum mountain bikes. If I had 💰💰12,000🍁 I'd be ordering a MOOTS Titanium "wishbone" frame 😁🤘🤘. I also really like the looks of the MOOTS YBB frames too👍👍

There are some excellent titanium custom builder s

@Mapdec Good to hear🤘🤘. I know carbon has a better strength to weight ratio than Titanium, and that's ok. I'd rather have the material that will last much longer Ti🤘🤘 "YEAH❗️"

Carbon fiber bikes last a long time unless you are regularly crashing them and even then a damaged CF frame is much easier and less costly to repair than a damaged ti, aluminum or steel frame. Not sure where the urban legend comes from that CF frames are not durable because they are. I have a 2014 Cervelo R3 that has several tens of thousands of miles on it. Has been up and back down pretty much every major known climb in France, Switzerland and Northern Italy, some multiple times. Rides exactly the same today as it did in 2014 new. Bought a used early generation Trek OCLV 2300 CF frame with downtube shifters off EBAY about a decade ago for $200. Bike rides perfectly fine and that frameset is now 30 years old.

Yes. Fundamentally whatever the cost, a bike should be safe and functional.

it depends on the tier, both are very stiff frames. I have always felt the TCR flex a bit at the front, felt mostly when out of the saddle or low on the drops. Millions would disagree with me though and claim the TCR is the stiffest thing ever.

Yeah. You could well be right.

Why is it ill advised? If the cash price is not really material to them it’s not like a higher end bike is going to fall apart on the way to the cafe for a latte. 😀

They ride the S5 in flat and low roller stages, but you are correct, none of them are riding that bike with low profile wheels. Vingo and others also ride the Caledonia 5 in various TDF prep races.

Correct. He uses the R5 on mountainous stages and the S5 on flat and low rolling hills stages. On occasion he has also broken out a Caledonia 5 on various stage races in TDF prep races.

​@@ivanboesky1520they've used the soloist

Has yours started creaking and turning your frame oval yet?

No. I have a carbon rim brake domane 2019. Hopefully it won’t happen lol

Yeah. True. I ran my SuperX as an all road bike for years before I got the 765

@@Mapdec Giant had the Anyroad as well years back.

No. Dura Ace is a racing spec groupset. It’s been designed for racing on roads. It was never designed for endurance or all road and all weathers like 105 is. It’s about fit for purpose. It’s why 105, Rival etc have different gear ratio options and made of materials less prone to corrosion. No one had really made a really top tier gravel / all road groupset yet. I am sure it will come.

@@Mapdec Totally wrong. People race on Ultegra and 105. People also do epic endurance rides on Dura Ace. How is titanium, carbon and alloy more prone to corrosion than just alloy and steel? If anything those 105 parts are more prone. Painted vs anodized. Dura Ace parts in general lasts longer too. People buy what they want. There is no hard rule that top tier groupset must go on top tier frames. That's just snoody bike shop talk.

@@openwheelracing88 yes. They do. And they can. But come on. Why fit a dura ace groupset on a 2kg trek Domane frame that’s only a couple of hundred grams lighter than an Ultegra groupset. That is mad waste of £1000. It won’t make the bike any faster, better handling or more comfortable. You may as well invest in a personalised 3D printed saddle instead. Problem is that folk rate ‘nice bike’ by the groupset. Hang a Dura Ace off a Dolan and you will get cycle club kudos.

People can do epic rides on DA, but that does not mean it is better suited to such rides or is more durable than Ultegra or 105. By far the 3 biggest points of wear on a bike grouppo are the cassette cogs, the chain and the chainrings. And in none of those cases will DA last as long as Ultegra or 105 because its’ chains and chainrings are more delicate for weight savings and in the case of DA cassettes a number of the cogs are titanium and they absolutely always wear faster than a comparable beefier Ultegra or 105 steel cogged cassette. I think the main point Mapdec is trying to get at is the main advantage of DA over Ultegra or 105 is some minor weight savings that an all out racer would be concerned about. Why spend that extra cash for some minor component weight savings on a relatively heavy endurance or touring bike packing type frame? You have already sacrificed at least if not more weight on the frameset versus a high end race frame with that endurance/touring type frame and now you are going to spend an arm and a leg trying to bring its relative bike weight back down just a bit. It would almost be like putting a super high end performance set of Pirelli tires designed for a Porsche 911 Turbo on a Honda Accord commuter sedan. Why do it?

@@ivanboesky1520 features like gear ratio choice, derailleur capacity, and chain line options. For instance. XPLR and Dub wide is not on Red. DA has no 11-36 option. Durability is also featured. Solid cranks instead of bonded alu or carbon suit bad weather riding. 105 di2 has 2 batteries in levers etc.