Marantz MODEL M1 review (vs. WiiM, Bluesound, Lyngdorf & Audiolab)

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0:40 Made in Japan, streaming and connectivity
4:01 HEOS, playlist and DSP
8:29 vs. Bluesound Powernode
10:39 vs. WiiM AMP & Lyngdorf TDAI-1120
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17:49 Outtakes
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@bencausey 18 күн бұрын

Thank you for including the outtakes at the end. Made my day.

@adsph 18 күн бұрын

Always appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

@mrfaversham5345 17 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side by side comparisons, which makes it extremely useful. Thank you for going to all the effort.

@jacquesvilleneuve754 16 күн бұрын

Very simple and clear review. Your comparison units are right in the range. Good job John.

@LenLynch 16 күн бұрын

This video includes 4 side by side comparisons... Much success John! Love your work

@socksforllamas 17 күн бұрын

This video contains four side-by-side comparisons. Really love the “peek behind the curtain” that the outtakes provide. Excellent video!

@sergioamezcua2873 17 күн бұрын

Love your 4 side-by-side comparisons, but also love your bloopers for whom may think what you do its easy.

@nzl244 18 күн бұрын

Was für eine tolle bewertung. Vielen Dank!

@edmundgil6008 18 күн бұрын

This excellent review contains four, side-by-side comparisons!

@jonass.4449 18 күн бұрын

Beautiful stuff man!!! Thanks!

@sasagpopovic 17 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by side comparisons. Great review. Thanks!

@danielabada2868 17 күн бұрын

Beautifully subtle teaser of the Monitor Audio Studio 89. Looking forward to the review.

@pgreaves8176 13 күн бұрын

This video includes four side by side comparisons. Thanks John!

@YuriBrus 17 күн бұрын

Awesome review! I loved your detailed breakdown of the Marantz MODEL M1 streaming amplifier. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how well the Marantz MODEL M1 stands its ground against the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120, super helpful for anyone considering these options. Thanks, and have a great day! Best regards, Yuri 🙂

@ChrisRobinsonutah 18 күн бұрын

Wiim brains matched with the M1 amplifier would be the perfect product for me.

@jimfarrell4635 17 күн бұрын

HEOS is meh. I bought a Wiim Pro to use with my Denon AV amp and, even using the same DAC and amplification, the sound and user experience improved. Adding a Topping E50 DAC improved things further. HEOS just seems half baked. As for comprehensive streaming solutions, Auralic and Hifi Rose come close, but still don't beat Wiim despite much higher price points. Hifi Rose, in particular, lacks Amazon music which is a shame, as so does Roon.

@theoriginalcraig 18 күн бұрын

I absolutely LOVE the outtakes. John is not only the best at what he does, but he also doesn't take himself too seriously. Excellence and humility combined are just part of what makes John the best. Well done!

@paulm944 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. And a great review as well!

@rippedtopshelf6806 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. I'm setting up a 2.1 audio-only system for my home gym - B&W CDM-1s and SVS sub. The M1 seems like a good solution - Marantz quality, compact, streams, beefy amp, SW support, not outrageously priced. The value of the Sonos is hard to ignore though.

@stevendoesburg6555 17 күн бұрын

I know it’s probably an old complaint, but i do wonder about the longevity of all-in-one app controlled amplifiers. I’ve just gotten burned by Sonos dropping support for local streaming through Navidrome just because they no longer feel like doing it. Now I can no longer listen to my own music with a solution that used to work great, and that I spent good money on. What happens in 5 years or 10 years when Marantz decides they no longer want to support this product?

@cristyang 18 күн бұрын

been waiting for this one!

@unomilan 18 күн бұрын

4 side by sides is just awesome! cheers

@Corwin74 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. Great review, trying to decide between this unit and the Bluesound Powernode to power some outdoor speakers on my back patio. Already have the Powernode in my bedroom and it's great, also have a Node/Peachtree GAN-1 combo in the living room so staying within the BluOS platform is very appealing.

@larrystoogel2371 18 күн бұрын

"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons" And all were comparisons of interest.

@slyd8r 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side by side comparison's I am so happy that Marantz jumped in the modern era, although I think missing out on Google cast is a big mistake, having tens of millions of devices with android. I still enjoy your work and I consider it to be the mostl professional one on KZfaq!

@MukMaestro 12 күн бұрын

4 side by side comparisons is great!

@EliseF802 17 күн бұрын

Love your new white slat background. Looks smart!!

@uwebecker8880 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the great post.

@SudoDama 18 күн бұрын

Why are we not using usbc already?

@noosamike 16 күн бұрын

Perhaps a WiiM Ultra and Rega io amp might be a better solution plus the combined price is about the same. I hate being totally reliant on an app based device which will have a life span dependent on the ongoing support for the app.

@IAmThankfulToday 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4.1 side-by-side product comparisons. Thank you John.

@atsund 13 күн бұрын

“More musically alive” = musicality 😉😊

@MichaelLopresto 18 күн бұрын

This video contains four side-by-side comparisons. Thank you, John, for another well-crafted, informative, and entertaining video.

@donalddietz4755 18 күн бұрын

Nice outtakes!

@muzammelhaquemukul7089 16 күн бұрын

Would have been great if you compared it with Marantz stereo 70

@shuraragi 18 күн бұрын

Great video! Why wasn’t the Stereo 70s mentioned tho?

@B1bthinkin 3 күн бұрын

This video contains four side-by-side comparisons, and as always, was well worth the watching.

@jiggahits 4 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video. This video contains four side by side comparisons. It would be great to know how the M1 compares to the Stereo 70 and the Model 40N. :)

@brandtblues 17 күн бұрын

4x4 comparisons - wowzers!

@peterwalkerden6778 18 күн бұрын

Meanwhile Wiim is taking notes: "note to self, must make fully digital version with descrete class d or class a amp". Give them a year and I wouldn't be surprised.

@Lou-f 18 күн бұрын

Tvc4x4sbsc👍

@bluelithium9808 10 күн бұрын

No such thing as a digital amp. Twenty years of marketing hype. But it's your money.

@evanodder6948 17 күн бұрын

I'm certainly no expert but I've been distantly attached to stereos all my life. I think the marantz outshining the Lygdorf in the flat performance points directly at the continuing evolution of class d hifi.

@michaelglebbeek7087 15 күн бұрын

"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons" Thanks for the video!

@Russellsouthey 17 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side by side comparisons - and excellent comparisons they are too! Well done John. Can you possible add details of the speakers you've used. Have you thought of doing a video on whether "power conditioner/strips/etc" actually make a difference. One of your most most useful video series has been your videos on room acoustics and the benefits of room treatments. Power treatment equipment could be another interesting series. I know you are flat-out busy so maybe this is something for the distant future. Thank you for superbly produced informative videos.

@_fakeklg 17 күн бұрын

Woa...those graphics. Kind of blew my mind. Stepping up your game Mr. Darko. Nice job (on the graphics and the review)!

@_fakeklg 17 күн бұрын

Also, this video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons.

@mcmolony 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the review, Darko. I’m considering this Marantz for my desktop system consisting of JBL L52 Classics and an L10 Classic sub. Seems like a lovely product and I have always enjoyed Marantz and JBL together. The bass management and Airplay are probably the only two “features” I would use. I could accomplish this for less money, as your side-by-side comparisons demonstrate, yet I’m drawn to the Marantz most of all. The Sonos Amp is a close contender as I already have Sonos throughout the home, but my desktop doesn’t need to act as an extension of that system. Cheers, sir. Thanks again.

@fairmania 17 күн бұрын

The blooper reel hit the button as usual, well done John! A worthy inclusion every time.

@rljmofokeng 18 күн бұрын

Been wating for this review. Seems like a solid product, but I guess the wait is still on for a product that has a top notch amplifier and the streaming chops of the Wiim AMP. This video contains 4 side by side comparison's

@papermate8773 18 күн бұрын

This video contained 4 side by side comps. Which we appreciated.

@mrmessyjesse 18 күн бұрын

Nice review, for the record I’m still waiting for the 40n to be ROON ready a few years later

@dgtheone 18 күн бұрын

Darko is back!

@chcorreia17 7 күн бұрын

4 side by side. Thank you, Darko.

@MikkoHiiri 18 күн бұрын

Interesting device, I'm planning a low maintenance low visibility system for a friend, I will take the M1 in to consideration. Thank you for the review.

@n8wrl 18 күн бұрын

I love your reviews. I've been waiting for this, and I couldn't wait for this befroe I got one! I am not a fan of HEOS, but AirPlay2 gets me to Roon so I am also not bothered by the streaming options. I actually wasn't aware that Roon-Ready-Ness was in the cards - that would be icing on an already wonderful cake. I put this in my bedroom driving a pair of KEF R3-Meta's and the M1 disappears with the other clutter on my dresser. Now we can queue up our favorites with Roon. I am actually considering a 2nd unit for my wife's office!

@FlyOnAlbatross 18 күн бұрын

Hmmm, I wouldn’t mind getting a whole Marantz set up but at this point I have everything I need with WiiM and all without breaking the bank. Best of all I’m happy with what I have.

@alexcampbell8600 17 күн бұрын

"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons", Thank you John for another thorough video.:)

@PRO9TL 17 күн бұрын

Comparison with Stereo 70s? Thought that was now your reference in this price range.

@timomy8 18 күн бұрын

Thanks john appreciate the time taken and put into the review, wondering if you’ve experienced the technics range which is also direct digital no dac? Yes watched to the end ;)

@michaelrossmaessler200 16 күн бұрын

This video contains four side-by-side comparisons and a whole bunch of bloopers at the end. Thanks for the review John and going into a product that will be controversial.

@Rudi-Mhz 18 күн бұрын

I have the DRA900h from Denon. after some Month it play's quite good. This Thing manages everything, TV, DVD, the Thorens Player, the CD with it's own DAC. And it manages two Rooms with different Speakers. But for an stand alone System i would prefer an Streamer like the M1

@m4nc1n1 12 күн бұрын

Your b-roll music sounds fantastic on the Nothing Ear 2s!

@leegodwin2071 18 күн бұрын

My glass was definitely more full than empty, with the four side by side comparisons. Interesting video even for the likes of myself a millennial, A/B, vinyl purist, music first audiofan. Thanks John 🙌

@murraycampbell1548 15 күн бұрын

John, you and I have a sort of spooky action from a distance when it comes to music affinity… it’s really kind of strange. But I like it. Cheers mate!

@DarkoAudio 15 күн бұрын

👻

@thedarkknight1971 17 күн бұрын

'Loaded' - Primal Scream shown twice? Nice! It's a great track, and yeah, it's one of my 'Testable go-to's' too (when trying headphones/stereos etc)... 😏👌 😎🇬🇧

@Linux_Lucy 13 күн бұрын

John, U need to make a dedicated Video about the new WiiM Firmware Update allowing FREE Room Correction ! .... But NOT on the Wiim Mini .....

@RossAndr3w 18 күн бұрын

Great comparisons. As someone who recently purchased a Powernode I watched this with interest, however the lack of headphone amplifier is a dealbreaker for me... Thankfully! The M1 looks lovely though.

@user-mz6lt2pr9s 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video. Add Qobuz and you have competition for the Wiim ultra amp etc.

@gelderlandproduction 15 күн бұрын

"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons" Keep it going!!!!!!

@bangsw1190 13 күн бұрын

end of video

@TyFeague 17 күн бұрын

Four side by side comparisons requires a lot of time in the listening seat. Thank you for the dedication! It seems like Marantz has done their homework and brought forth a real nice piece of kit. As far as the lack of streaming services, we're in the day and age of delivering the minimum and adding services as time progresses. I suspect the same could be true here. I so appreciate that they included eARC. These days our living room is used for 80% TV/Movie viewing and 20% music which means eARC is a must have. I'm really curious to try out a direct digital amp compared to my old class A/B with an integrated DAC, especially for Movie watching where soundtracks tend to be livelier than my usual music listening. I really like the mesh top design. I'm curious, is the cooling completely passive? No fans inside? I've noticed over the past week, as we've been experiencing a heatwave, that my amp is overheating and causing quite a bit of distortion in the mids. The ambient temp in our apartment is around 78-80ºF compared to the normal 74º in the summer, and I guess that's enough of a difference to cause very noticeable distortion.

@JoeGsPizza 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. I feel like you answered your own question about “musicality” when you said that music felt “more alive” through the Marantz than the Lyngdorf. That’s what it’s always meant to me, anyway. Not necessarily perfect linear accuracy, but the feeling that the music has life.

@hansrasmussen5239 17 күн бұрын

I am pleased to comment that this video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons.

@anotherfatbeardedmantalkin5893 18 күн бұрын

Hi, thanks for the info. My first venture into streaming was with a Yamaha WXAD-10, long since discontinued. While the Musicast system was far from perfect, it could handle FLAC files at 44.1 kHz. The device sold bugger all, but it seems like it was a design trailblazer. Both the Wiim Pro and this Marantz M1 look like they've taken design notes from the Yamaha. Funny. Thanks for continuing to champion a diversity of music. Cheers - Hedley

@TimvanderLeeuw 16 күн бұрын

I think that for now my audio system is quite complete enough. Nothing you said about the M1 makes me feel any buyers remorse for the things I did buy already. And sometimes, that’s all one needs from a review. 😅 I think that what really is missing from my audio setup right now, though, is user friendliness for the less technical people in the household. For that I’d need a bigger rethink of the components.

@Sethy22 18 күн бұрын

Bought a pair of LS60 wireless and never looked back.

@gunarstreikals2099 15 күн бұрын

As someone interested in buying Lyngdorf this seems interesting alternative. I guess if only it would have a volume knob ) thank you for review

@BadVoodoo11 18 күн бұрын

Thanks John. I was considering this as part of my desk setup with a pair of Elac Solano bs283s. The wiim amp I auditioned with the similarly priced NAD and Marantz pm6007. I deliberately auditioned them near field only as this setup will only be used that way. I found in this arrangement the wiim amps flaws are completely mitigated against the competition above but I was still curious about the marantz m1. A suggestion for these compact options would be to give a near field opinion on them. I think many are buying these kinds of amps for that purpose.

@dtape 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons I'm glad that there's more competition against the WiiM Amp product type. Competition means more choices and improved products so consumers win.

@llchristubell 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. and yes that glass is well full!!! Question - could I feed HDMI direct from an iPad with an apple adaptor? I'm old skool and like having a music source sat on the amp... and it has a screen. Would power-on, volume and input switch work? And talking about input-switch, how do i switch to RCA in?? do I need the app?

@reneeversen 16 күн бұрын

A Perfect side by side would be NAD c700.. Got mine for 1000€ in Nederlands in June 2024.. Same size, Almost same spec.. Love your Videos ..

@richardslater4819 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. Great infotainment as ever. What were the stand mounters shown in the video?

@m4nc1n1 12 күн бұрын

I see you FT3! lol. I bought the FT5s and love them. Oh, and I just ordered the M1 :) When I stream it is from my phone, so all I need from Heos or any other streamer is bass management and quality sound (looking at you, Marantz.) Airplay works just fine on a modern iPhone

@MrSwiss90 17 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons 👍 Thanks

@vikrambhaskar7976 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for explaining everything so coherently and meticulously like you would for a novice. I always consider your reviews to be the gold standard. By the way when you said the marantz has better bass control, did you mean the low and high pass filter?

@factoryguy8 16 күн бұрын

If you are using Roon, I'd recommend just using the RHEOS plug in until full roon support is added by marantz. This adds high res audio for all devices with heos.

@kiangdv 17 күн бұрын

I'm wondering how it compares to the Nad M32 :) - thank you for those comparisons in the vid!

@MikeGorman-nb4hm 11 күн бұрын

Love the USM tv unit👍

@jp93309 16 күн бұрын

I saw 7 side by side comparisons. I was exhausted.

@LencoTB 18 күн бұрын

John you are a godsend for men. I’ve been waiting for this review ever since the M1 was announced. I have been saving money for Lyngdorf because I live in Copenhagen and I’ve spoken to Peter Lyngdorf himself at events so I was determined to get the Lyngdorf but now I am not so sure. If only one could try RoomPerfect at home before buying. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰 and lots of love to Berlin 🇩🇪 where I found the love of my life.

@kubjohal 13 күн бұрын

Hi John - curious about the new wall slats on the front wall - acoustic panels? Can you share details? Apologies if already covered in previous posts .

@lxduc 18 күн бұрын

What kind of speakers would this amp be comfortable with, do you think it would pair nicely with the likes of a LS3 5a kind of bookshelf Thanks for the good work you do on this channel

@MichealC 5 күн бұрын

Thank you

@TheTomt50 18 күн бұрын

This video contains 4 side by side comparisons... crazy outtakes!

@mjejce 18 күн бұрын

No Tidal Connect?! Deal breaker. (Waiting to see what John thinks of WiiM Ultra.) Anyway, "This video contains four side by side comparisons."

@AlexandruCapsa 17 күн бұрын

Hi John, regarding the Lyngdorf, input setup->sensitivity, you can boost it to say 6 (out of 24). I find this greatly adds to the dynamic punch of the amp. Would be curious how it compares now to the Marantz.

@mrpositronia 15 күн бұрын

Yes, in order to get the best sound from my Lyngdorf, I bought a Cambridge Edge W. I found one for less than half the RRP, but I know people will still question my choices. I don't care though. I love what I have. 🙂

@DarkoAudio 15 күн бұрын

Only when someone else is *paying* for your gear do they get to question your choices. 😉

@leafyleafyleaf 17 күн бұрын

Ok, so I watched until the end, but by encouraging everyone to post this fact using the catchphrase du jour, it is gaming the almighty KZfaq algorithm (very clever) at the expense of diluting the comments section. Grumping over, point made.

@klauskaan6320 17 күн бұрын

Schnitzel! Also im pretty sure that you also rank the Brooklyn amp int this review. So 5 it is.

@psykoguy21 15 күн бұрын

I'm really curious to hear how you think the comparison with the Wiim Amp holds up now that room correction is included!

@henryhollis4287 17 күн бұрын

Thanks. This video contains four side by side comparisons. M1 was good but the Wiim is closer to my budget.

@user-ud9rn7dw6q 16 күн бұрын

Agreed

17 күн бұрын

I wonder no one mentions the equalizer and room correction feature of the wiim devices. It's a K. O. for most of the competitors.

@RacingAnt 17 күн бұрын

It's been mentioned in lots of reviews...

@anthonystephenson7659 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the review... been eagerly awaiting this one! Do you think this will perform well enough with a speaker that has a 6ohm nominal impedance and dips to 3.5ohm (like the Lintons)? Would be interested to hear your suggested optimal speaker pairings 👍

@1vlb 17 күн бұрын

It drives the snot out of 4 ohm Magnepan .7's. It should pair well with the Linton's.

@anthonystephenson7659 17 күн бұрын

@@1vlb Cheers, good to know 👍