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Marathon Man (1976): Unpacking the Scene in the French Restaurant

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Since childhood, John Schlesinger's 1976 film, Marathon Man has intrigued me. I found one scene particularly curious. The French restaurant section of Marathon Man remains as memorable and entertaining and fun today as it was in 1976. In a film overflowing with unusual and indelible scenes, the conversation in the French restaurant is sometimes overlooked, though it is indispensable to revealing the closeness of the relationship between Doc and Babe and thus understanding the significance of what happens next. Doc, Babe's older brother, is a kind of wish fulfillment, a brother who truly wants to look out for his younger sibling. When Doc, a covert operative for the government, learns that his brother Babe has become involved with a mysterious European beauty, he suspects that something is amiss. Doc invites Babe and Elsa out for lunch at a three star Manhattan restaurant and utilizing his tradecraft, he begins unravelling Elsa' story. At a minimum, Doc reveals that Elsa has an agenda of her own. Doc is truly concerned for his younger brother and needs him to grasp that Elsa is trouble. I have reflected back on this scene--which is only three minutes and 24 seconds in duration--many, many times throughout my life. I decided to make this video as a love letter to the French restaurant scene, the place where Babe's real education about life begins. I wanted to post this video many months before it was actually posted, but I was prevented from doing so by unfair and downright plodding and idiotic copyright claims by the studio. It was frustrating and especially ironic, since I hoped that this video (which deals with only one scene after all) might prompt people to watch or rewatch this timeless film. I hope that people find my take on the French restaurant to be instructive or at least entertaining. Please consider subscribing to this channel, so that I can continue to make videos like this one, whether the studio approves or not. Also, I welcome any comments you might have.
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@zigzogoid4591
@zigzogoid4591 Ай бұрын
When America made GREAT films with nuance and subtlety. Please come back.
@shudtt09
@shudtt09 Ай бұрын
'Wild" with Reese Witherspoon. Great. 'The Frozen Ground' with Nick Cage. Great as well. Both newer Hollywood films. No CGI. Just great stories.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Ай бұрын
Actually there's plenty of fantastic films like this that come out of America all the time but unlike in the 70's they're not from the major studios, they're independent films or low budget studio films that don't get promoted like the one's they hope will be blockbusters. In the early 70's studio executives came to the realization that they were out of touch with modern audiences and turned control of making the films over to the people actually making them, directors like George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola, then in 1980 Micheal Cimino who was another talented young movie maker who'd been propelled to stardom in 1978 with The Deer Hunter almost put United Artists, a studio founded in 1919, out of business in 1980 with his flop Heavens Gate (in all fairness UA was already teetering on bankruptcy and was hoping Heavens Gate would turn their fortunes around, also modern reassessment of Heavens Gate no longer has it considered to be a bad movie, it was basically just a victim of a couple big name critics not liking it so every critic across the country jumped on the bandwagon and all tried out bashing each other with their reviews, in Europe it's always been considered a masterpiece and is considered one of the greatest westerns ever made with it being ranked right up there with The Searchers), that scared the studios so bad they steered control of movie making back out of the hands of the directors and back into the hands of studio executives, so no longer do you have movies like Marathon Man getting the major backing and promotion of the studios, they spend their millions budgeted for promotion and advertising on their blockbuster films like the Marvel Comics and Star Wars franchises, but they still make lower budget indy style films along with the independent film companies that are true gems but you have to look around for them because you won't see their names up in neon lights because there's no promotion money for them, but they are out there and Netflix is one of the places that's good to find them at, so is Tubi which is free but you have to sit through commercials on it but so what, that's a good time to go to the kitchen and get something to drink, also Tubi has many of the great classics like a lot of the 70's films.
@shudtt09
@shudtt09 Ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 Yes. You're so correct. I check KZfaq every now and then with the search 'Indie films'. I hate superhero movies. lol
@PoliteTia
@PoliteTia Ай бұрын
The list of films nominated for Academy Awards, for that year, is outstanding.
@STELLASCUTENESS
@STELLASCUTENESS Ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 First…… paragraphs exist. Second……Netflix is propaganda at best.
@Skoora
@Skoora Ай бұрын
Marathon Man, Three Days of the Condor…just great 70’s thriller/noir cinema. Can watch them again and again.
@mphrdldn
@mphrdldn Ай бұрын
I was fortunate to have seen both in the theater.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Ай бұрын
_Winter K|lls, All the President's Men, Klute_
@litedawg
@litedawg Ай бұрын
I just watched both of these 2 movies in the past 2 months. Kinda crazy how 3 Days of the Condor could be made today and fit perfectly with the times.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Ай бұрын
_Winter K|lls, All the President's Men, Klute_
@Skoora
@Skoora Ай бұрын
@@litedawg Cliff Robertson’s short monologue at the end about what the American would expect of them is still very prescient. We are, in general, a fearful, lazy people and would easily start forgoing morals and honor to avoid losing any level of comfort. Hell, we’re doing that right now just to get clicks and likes, let alone because we need base resources.
@jameshw9751
@jameshw9751 Ай бұрын
The scene wherein the Holocaust survivors recognize Szell in the Diamond District has always stuck with me. I grew up in the 70's, when meeting a holocaust survivor or knowing of one was not all that rare.
@philiphibberd9490
@philiphibberd9490 25 күн бұрын
It was imagining the scene that made him write the whole book
@jonnytheboy7338
@jonnytheboy7338 4 ай бұрын
The death of doc was seriously one of the saddest movie moments for me. I was enthralled with the character. Impressionable teenager when I first saw it
@paulgough48
@paulgough48 Ай бұрын
He doesn't die!
@Vejur9000
@Vejur9000 Ай бұрын
Stunning moment in movie history.
@mphrdldn
@mphrdldn Ай бұрын
I was enthralled with the character as a 23 year old fan of Roy Scheider. A spark left the film with him.
@naryaquid
@naryaquid Ай бұрын
Great film..Roy Scheider was terrific...I've seen it several times.
@stepanbandera5206
@stepanbandera5206 27 күн бұрын
Doc had to get to Amity, he had a shark problem!🦈
@badinfluence3814
@badinfluence3814 Ай бұрын
Marathon Man is a great film with so much in the text and images to unpack. I've always assumed that Doc only visits Babe when he does as he learns from Babes letters that he has a new girlfriend who is Swiss and that they were mugged by two men in suits. The purpose of his visit is to assess 'Elsa'. Great breakdown of this scene.
@edmundcowan9131
@edmundcowan9131 Ай бұрын
This was one of the best movies of the 1970s and a top to rerun.
@mediterraneandiet2483
@mediterraneandiet2483 Ай бұрын
Is it safe?
@tracywilliams7929
@tracywilliams7929 Ай бұрын
7 Ups, Marathon Man, All that Jazz, Sorcerer and of course Jaws. The 70s were a peak decade for Scheider.
@kensellers4082
@kensellers4082 Ай бұрын
@@tracywilliams7929 The late New Jersey resident was also superb in “The French Connection” with Gene Hackman in 1971.
@davemoss9505
@davemoss9505 Ай бұрын
No one who sees the torture scene will ever forget it. The movie has several scenes which hold the viewers attention and ingrain themselves indelibly in thier memory.
@gerrydooley951
@gerrydooley951 Ай бұрын
it set dentistry back about a 100 years
@mumblesbadly7708
@mumblesbadly7708 Ай бұрын
Whenever I go to my dentist, I ask him if he is going to ask me “Is it safe?” 😉
@AlejandroRenato
@AlejandroRenato 21 күн бұрын
Recently i could watch The deer Hunter" with de Niro again, a glorious film also
@tonylani2015
@tonylani2015 Жыл бұрын
You have done such a thorough and complete job unpacking this scene! As a 15 year old, I was obsessed when this movie came out in 1976! I found out William Goldman's phone# was in the NY phone directory, so I called him. He couldn't have been nicer and we had a conversation for 15 minutes about Marathon Man and All The President's Men. I wanted to work for either Robert Evans, John Frankenheimer, or Sydney Pollack since I was a big Al Pacino fan. A year and 10 months later, Sydney Pollack's office finally called and hired me as an Errand Boy. I worked for him from Electric Horseman to Out of Africa (1979-1985) I was 18 years old. He finally hired me after I bugged him for almost 2 years after I would show up to his parking space when he would drive up to work. But that's a story for another time...
@jimsannerud6254
@jimsannerud6254 Жыл бұрын
Cool story. If you like Frankenheimer, have you seen Seconds? I saw it as a kid and it has traumatized me to this day, but still one of my favorite movies.
@auldreekie7768
@auldreekie7768 Жыл бұрын
What a cool story. I love hearing about behind the scenes in Hollywood.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 ай бұрын
@@jimsannerud6254: Also "52 Pick-Up" also starring Scheider.
@littlejimmy7402
@littlejimmy7402 Ай бұрын
@@KutWrite I bought that on DVD years ago, it's a shame that so many Roy Scheider films haven't been all that easy to see in the past.
@waukivorycopse2402
@waukivorycopse2402 Ай бұрын
​@@littlejimmy7402 I agree, hard to find his films. He's a bit of a forgotten man, strangely, as he didn't put in a bad performance in the whole of the 1970s, a talented dude.
@movid
@movid 23 күн бұрын
There are many commentaries about films on the Tube. But frankly, yours is the most clairvoyant and genuinely brilliant 👍. Marathon man is such a powerful movie, driven by a great story and characters beyond standard expectations. It's not a film that you easily forget...❤ from Montreal
@gallery7596
@gallery7596 Ай бұрын
Such a superb cast assembled for this film, and I think the finest performance comes from Roy Scheider (who should've been nominated as best supporting actor).
@taoalexis
@taoalexis 4 ай бұрын
The "Praise from Caesar" line is excellently placed as the speaker's name is "Janeway," which is an obvious call out to the Roman two-faced god Janus, who looks both ways from a door way, in and out. Being "in" in the spy game is everything, compared to being "out." So here is Janeway telling Zell that he's out, while Janeway himself is two-faced.
@billwhelpley6825
@billwhelpley6825 Ай бұрын
Wow good stuff!
@orangewarm1
@orangewarm1 Жыл бұрын
this is when films were films.
@BrooklynBear63
@BrooklynBear63 Ай бұрын
The combination of brains and talent; both of which are a scarcity these days.
@garymazeffa1442
@garymazeffa1442 Ай бұрын
God! How I miss the old movies of old. Thanks, great insights.
@traderduke2
@traderduke2 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I'll just toss out 3 older movies for you to see, in the off chance you haven't. "The Boys from Brazil" (1978), "The Gambler" (1974) (NOT the remake version), and "Notorious" (1946).
@a_bode1
@a_bode1 26 күн бұрын
I love Marathon Man! John Schlesinger should have gotten Oscar for it. Then again, I looked up all the movies from 1976 and I wouldn't be able to pick the best one. What a year! The amount of talent of that era makes me wonder what happened and what we lost. It simply can't be compared with today's productions. Thank you for your post.
@user-yt6le1hx1e
@user-yt6le1hx1e 23 күн бұрын
Your analysis and synthesis appear flawless. Topic, scenes and factors, creators and participants. All balanced. Anthony Lane in the New Yorker level. Thank you.
@davidc6032
@davidc6032 5 күн бұрын
Man, Roy Scheider always delivered the goods.
@Dilberto88
@Dilberto88 Ай бұрын
This movie rocked my core, as a 12-year old. I saw it again at 26 and it made a bigger impact on me. Great performances!
@grahamarnhem8659
@grahamarnhem8659 Жыл бұрын
Roy scheider exudes fitness and sophistication in the film.the fight scene is as realistic as the connery and shaw one in from Russia with love.
@tracywilliams7929
@tracywilliams7929 Ай бұрын
Roy Scheider was an amateur boxer before going pro as an actor. That's why he was so athletic.
@tonykramer949
@tonykramer949 23 күн бұрын
He is also a highly intelligent person with a bunch of college degrees.
@ytrbro1041
@ytrbro1041 23 күн бұрын
this movie is a classic! the famous line "is it safe" by "Dr. Szel" played by Laurence Olivier, Olivier also played Ezra Lieberman in "The Boys from Brazil" also another classic!
@-Gramps
@-Gramps 4 күн бұрын
I had just started a neurobiology course in medical school when I saw this movie. The dental torture scene still sends shivers up my spine! Great movie that would have won numerous Oscar’s if released a year earlier or later!
@renedew7596
@renedew7596 14 күн бұрын
What an amazing year for movies. Today we are lucky if there’s even one movie of this caliber in a year. And what a great lineup of actors!
@stevecowder4774
@stevecowder4774 18 күн бұрын
This movie gets better with every watch. It’s a timeless classic and one of the creepiest movies ever made. An excellent cast with Laurence Olivier playing an unforgettable, ice cold villain. That heartless look in his eyes was like death frozen over.
@1ouncebird
@1ouncebird 17 күн бұрын
Olivier is magnificent in Marathon Man. What a great film.
@squatch545
@squatch545 Ай бұрын
Wow.....the 1977 Academy Awards were incredibly stacked. All those best movie nominations were classic giant towering films. Any one could have won it.
@gabrielleangelica1977
@gabrielleangelica1977 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies of all time! Must see.
@williamweb9782
@williamweb9782 22 күн бұрын
Great to see a homage towards the importance of the restaurant scene. I have often thought about the scene but have never seen anyone give it the importance it deserves. I read Goldman's book about 40 years ago and will need to pick it up again. Great podcast.
@davidsnow2420
@davidsnow2420 Ай бұрын
Saw this in the theater. I'd go once week and saw all the films you mentioned. Back then, Marathon Man was just another popcorn movie. What an embarassment of riches. Every week in the 70s, a movie masterpiece would debut.
@jackbedient
@jackbedient 28 күн бұрын
Did you see Network and Taxi Driver in the theaters as well? Im 53, born in 71, and became a film fanatic early, since I was raised by HBO and VHS, and envy your 70s moviegoing experiences… Great way of putting it: An embarrassment of riches.
@davidsnow2420
@davidsnow2420 14 күн бұрын
@@jackbedient Oh yes--- saw Taxi Driver and Network in the theater. The Bronson and Eastwood movies. Rocky. All of the Woody Allen flicks. Blazing Saddles. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Jaws, Star Wars, Close Encounters, Alien. I don't believe we'll ever see another cinematic decade like the 70s. I had a few favorite single screen theaters in town and would usually attend a movie on a Friday matinee after classes. This was in Little Rock, just as four screen (!) multiplexes began to appear. Probably the best theater was the UA 150--- a huge immersive single screen dome. Off hours meant I'd usually have the theater to myself. It was incredible. I think a ticket was two dollars.
@paulaiello2071
@paulaiello2071 18 күн бұрын
The movie was very good. The book was excellent! One of my all-time favorites. Goldman was a terrific writer.
@baymaxc1647
@baymaxc1647 5 күн бұрын
GREAT MOVIE!! Seen it many times! Never gets old.
@petermcgill1315
@petermcgill1315 10 күн бұрын
Like 3 days of the condor, this movie has lived with me. My dentist never fails to smile when from the chair I ask “is it safe?” Oh, and this was when I learned those garrottes slice not choke.
@rerite2
@rerite2 14 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis. For those interested in movie trivia: a sidebar: the scene where Szell kills doc: the location is in downtown Los Angeles, at West Fifth Street and Flower Street. Same red "eternal staircase" sculpture still stands in the office building plaza, formerly known as "Arco Plaza." For a second, when Szell and Doc are face to face, in the background to the left, there's a tall building with vertical black and white lines to its facade. This building was once upon a time the Occidental Oil company building, now a hotel. The exterior was used in the old Perry Mason TV show with Raymond Burr as Perry's office location.
@sjd5750
@sjd5750 3 күн бұрын
I absolutely love "Marathon Man"..I'm always shocked (as I am with another Hoffman film, "Little Big Man") in how they are so overlooked! Both on my list in top 20 movies, for me.
@cnyphotovideo
@cnyphotovideo Ай бұрын
I’m 62 and also saw this film in the local theater. It’s still holds up to this day. Of course the dentist scene still gives me the shivers. it must’ve been quite interesting to see this at 10 years old. I actually saw The Exorcist in theaters when I was about 10. I couldn’t sleep in my basement room for three nights.
@jamesbronson8713
@jamesbronson8713 Ай бұрын
My buddy across the street, had nightmares 😂
@_pawter
@_pawter Ай бұрын
That's sad but so funny. My poor old manual labourer Dad couldn't stay awake of an evening all through a movie so my mum with 'aspirations' would lug me and my kid sister to the local drive-in. When I was 10 I got to see Deer Hunter and Grease. Not sure which one puzzled and scared me more.
@larskazan9035
@larskazan9035 21 күн бұрын
I saw this movie in the late '70s shortly after it was released. I thought it was outstanding. Thank you for your review. This is a film I'd like to have as a DVD.
@mjt5576
@mjt5576 Ай бұрын
I saw this in a theater when it was first released, and immediately fell in love with Marthe Keller. Great movie all the way around.
@roquefortfiles
@roquefortfiles Ай бұрын
If you needed a beautiful psycho double agent in the 70's you called Marthe Keller
@patrickburch3723
@patrickburch3723 8 ай бұрын
This scene is appealing to me for the protective honesty the older brother had...the world could use more of that, for sure.
@SirSmoldham
@SirSmoldham 23 күн бұрын
Thank you. I love this movie... even being privileged to witness a certain re-shoot of a pivotal killing at a downtown LA plaza near the library because the original version was too gory. Best reunion of city (N.Y.), actor and director since "Midnight Cowboy".
@meisterlymanu5214
@meisterlymanu5214 10 күн бұрын
Schieders best role, not his most famous, his professionalism and confidence is awesome.
@tracywilliams7929
@tracywilliams7929 Ай бұрын
Lutece is a white linen restaurant here in New York, USA. Its famous for once having had not just one ex-US President but three dine there in the space of one afternoon! According to a close family friend who dines at places like it the correct pronunciation is "Lou - Tess".
@jamesdrynan
@jamesdrynan Жыл бұрын
A forgotten classic. Great cast. Olivier was a fantastic villain. " Is it safe? " Delicious tension. I remember Hoffman in the bath. Chilling.
@orangewarm1
@orangewarm1 Жыл бұрын
who forgot it?
@georgekovacs3664
@georgekovacs3664 5 ай бұрын
Forgotten by whom? You, maybe.
@Brian_Boru
@Brian_Boru Ай бұрын
It's still remembered fondly, goofball.
@richardichard4237
@richardichard4237 Ай бұрын
The other replies to your rather arrogant and deeply ignorant comment save you from my deeper analysis of your type. Suffice to say you know nothing.
@jacksonj3082
@jacksonj3082 Ай бұрын
This movie was GREAT, and so intense, I had to walk out during the Nazi torture scene, and fainted near the popcorn stand! Excellent review SIR.
@petergibson1083
@petergibson1083 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Your videos should be "viral". So well done and so brilliantly insightful. Next level.
@throckmorton3705
@throckmorton3705 10 ай бұрын
0:53 it has a “confused and confusing and complex opening fifteen minutes … probably needlessly so …?” those are some of the best shots in the film.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon Ай бұрын
forget it, film review vloggers are some of the most clueless people in the world.
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Ай бұрын
@@plasticweapon I doubt that, but certainly because somebody makes a video doesn't make them an expert, and if something SEEMS confusing, then its more likely that YOU don't understand it, rather than it being 'a mistake'. When you SAY that about a scene, then you should be gracious enough to pen what you think would have been superior. Thats a generic 'you'' by the way.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon Ай бұрын
@@mikearchibald744 well, you may doubt it, but they are.
@gilbertgiles
@gilbertgiles Ай бұрын
Yeah, that's pretty idiotic a remark.
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Ай бұрын
@@plasticweapon Dude, five minutes reading COMMENTS tells you thats not the case. Take a look at all these comments, most of them praising the video. IF what you said were true then certainly the COMMENTERS and watchers of vloggers are more 'clueless'. Thats fine to criticize individual remarks and arguments, but thats really unhelpful all around.
@georgemeyer8352
@georgemeyer8352 5 күн бұрын
Nice breakdown of a classic movie.
@timdunn1572
@timdunn1572 29 күн бұрын
Incredible movie, superb acting, directing and photography
@williamblakehall5566
@williamblakehall5566 Ай бұрын
A great screenplay isn't simply a story. It's a window on a world.
@DJ-bj8ku
@DJ-bj8ku Ай бұрын
It was a lousy screenplay. Do you know what the movie was ultimately about? I’ve watched it several times and I still don’t.
@williamblakehall5566
@williamblakehall5566 Ай бұрын
@@DJ-bj8ku Fear. Fear of mortal enemies (like Nazi war criminals still being around circa 1976 who refuse to give up), fear of betrayal by one's own nation (McCarthyism driving Babe's father to suicide, the Division abusing Babe as a pawn rather than protecting him as a citizen), fear of betrayal by one's own beloved (Marthe Keller as Ilse Opel), fear of losing the protection of your own family (Doc is an excellent secret agent and a kind of guardian angel to Babe, yet still manages to get slaughtered by Szell), fear of madness (Szell refusing to specify "is it safe?"), fear of being hunted down like an animal and tortured -- the entire movie is a study in fear., as well as the power to finally confront that and overcome it. I submit to you that if you watched this movie with a "lousy screenplay" "several times," you may not have found it rationally persuasive -- and I can see that -- but you still saw it "several times" because you FELT something, because it was crafted to evoke that special eerie spooky thrill of fear.
@pawelpap9
@pawelpap9 Ай бұрын
The opening of the movie is not too long. It masterly pools the viewer scene after scene into the world the story will take place in. The road rage scene sets the stage for the major conflict all characters participate in. It is done without unnecessary drama and big words, a truly great story telling.
@davidk2594
@davidk2594 15 күн бұрын
Outstanding. You make me want to see this movie again and show it to others.
@lisamoag6548
@lisamoag6548 5 күн бұрын
Written by Goldman , excellent book. William Goldman was an excellent writer. He also wrote “ The Princess Bride”
@markbajek2541
@markbajek2541 11 күн бұрын
I once had a root canal where they couldn't deaden the nerve, this movie instantly popped in my head. Boy do you sweat buckets when that happens.
@darbyheavey406
@darbyheavey406 12 күн бұрын
This scene is true to the novel…Doc is Babes alter ego…intelligence like strength is often inherited….
@jerseyforhawks
@jerseyforhawks Ай бұрын
Roy Scheider, just magnificent.
@traderduke2
@traderduke2 Ай бұрын
Definitely. If you cast Roy in a great movie like "Jaws" or "Marathon Man" he brought true star power to the film. Amazing, intriguing actor.
@martincornish3179
@martincornish3179 7 күн бұрын
One of the best films ever in my opinion
@richardbarrow4620
@richardbarrow4620 Жыл бұрын
Saw this when I was younger. A movie with several scenes that stayed in my mind.
@wwbuirkle
@wwbuirkle 3 күн бұрын
The golden era of film making
@user-oe6yn7vi3k
@user-oe6yn7vi3k 20 күн бұрын
A great mid-70s movie among many other great movies.
@1accon
@1accon Ай бұрын
Maybe someone else mentioned it here - but fans of this movie might enjoy reading up about how this project didn't play so well after editing and Bob Evans and the team had to invest a lot of extra editing time and I think some reshoots in order to make it as satisfying as it is today. Fascinating story. If you watch carefully you may detect which scenes were likely the reshoots/additional scenes. In any case - Goldman was an ACE. Thanks for the video.
@JT-ol6ji
@JT-ol6ji Ай бұрын
Schlesinger has gone on record saying how impressed he was with Evans' postproduction involvement.
@kenjohnson6326
@kenjohnson6326 24 күн бұрын
Marathon Man had a great opening.
@EMEL-hr4ut
@EMEL-hr4ut 5 күн бұрын
Brilliant analysis of the film parts and restaurant scene. Schneider shone above some stiff competition from Larry and devane
@lyonellaverde3135
@lyonellaverde3135 14 күн бұрын
This was a very good take on an underrated thriller. Still amazed how Doc could get stabbed in LA, and walk all the way to Babe's apartment in New York. :D
@derekdbyrne7487
@derekdbyrne7487 7 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis. 👍🏽
@planesteve
@planesteve Жыл бұрын
The lunch scene is brilliant and how you did it with the stills of each actor, sad Doc was killed and Babe had to defend himself against all the odds.
@obsessedwithcinema
@obsessedwithcinema Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind note. I'm glad that you found this video enlightening.
@rangertommy
@rangertommy 15 күн бұрын
Great commentary on a memorable movie! Thanks!
@logicalthought
@logicalthought Жыл бұрын
I've probably seen this movie (the best thriller ever made!) 20x since I was a 15 year-old in the theater when it opened, and I've always loved this scene (along with the Diamond District one you analyze elsewhere). Maybe next you could do 15 minutes on "the soccer ball," lol.
@tombruns5233
@tombruns5233 Ай бұрын
I've loved this movie since I first saw it. Excellent cast, gripping direction, intelligent writing. Your analysis is spot on. Thanks for doing this, I'll subscribe for more excellence.
@nightmaster5593
@nightmaster5593 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video, and awesome movie!
@TWW-zk9gw
@TWW-zk9gw 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the fascinating analysis I haven't thought about this film in ages. I wouldn't call Babe the opposite of Doc. He's more like a larval form of his brother. They're both in great physical shape and Babe has that ability to push himself beyond normal limits, physically and intellectually. But he's a dreamer and idealist whereas Doc has spent so long as an agent and assassin he's become cynical and even to an extent jaded. He is nearly killed in the opening scene, a shocking lapse for Scylla and his reckless overconfidence around Szell is almost akin to a death wish. Despite Babe's naivety he will be the true star performer, when he finally becomes fully aware. This is foreshadowed in this scene with him holding the restaurant menu engraved with the name "L'etoille". After Doc's shocking death, Babe develops painfully into a worthy heir to the legend of Scylla. But with an important difference. He retains a sense of moral idealism and this finally enables him to succeed where Doc failed. I've often imagined how a sequel might play out with Babe being recruited fully into the secret world and picking up where Doc left off.
@Howler
@Howler 7 күн бұрын
" He's more like a larval form of his brother." Well stated--I agree.
@philgray7320
@philgray7320 Ай бұрын
Literally my favourite film of all time, i find it unbelievable that Dustin Hoffman did not win an oscar for that performance, even though there was some stiff competition that year, to me that was an oscar performance
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 22 күн бұрын
Good Video. It was strange to me, too, that Roy Scheider was not playing The Lead in this movie, especially since he was on the heals of his Iconic Role as Chief Martin Brody, in the movie JAWS.
@DansVintageBaseballPC
@DansVintageBaseballPC 4 күн бұрын
Fantastic breakdown. Truly a remarkable and disturbing film, and your deep dive is incredibly helpful for my next viewing.
@frankd.4528
@frankd.4528 29 күн бұрын
Wow what a year for movies.
@LewyLewy2008
@LewyLewy2008 Ай бұрын
I enjoyed your critique, this has always been one of my favorite films and now I appreciate it even more.
@speeta
@speeta Жыл бұрын
The "code phrase" is the mention of diamonds, to gauge her reaction. Does her presence have something to do with Szell's diamonds?
@davido1953
@davido1953 13 күн бұрын
My favorite thriller of all time.
@realhousewivesteaandshade9223
@realhousewivesteaandshade9223 8 күн бұрын
Fabulous analysis.
@GregoryWhite-dc1tw
@GregoryWhite-dc1tw 20 күн бұрын
Interesting that Hoffman also plays a naïve man protected by a more worldly brother in Rainman....
@mynameisjefferson3771
@mynameisjefferson3771 Ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown! I love this movie and that scene is one of my favs in it, for sure.
@2010njdevil
@2010njdevil Жыл бұрын
I love filming locations in NYC but sadly most places I knew are gone.....Especially Carmine's on Beekman St. in the Seaport when I worked downtown. The French Restaurant though is not Lutece but L'Etoile on E. 56th St. at 3rd Ave. It closed and was replaced by a more casual Table XII that also closed. We even got a brief glimpse of Diamond District favorite Berger's Kosher Deli on the south side of 47th St. That closed down also around 2010 or before when the old building was torn down and replaced with more modern.....NYC has been losing its character for 30+ years.
@obsessedwithcinema
@obsessedwithcinema Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this valuable information. I have made the appropriate change to the thumbnail, so that others won’t mistakenly believe that this scene was filmed in Lutèce. Getting eyewitness information from someone who knew these restaurants at the time is an astonishing gift. Thanks for taking the time to correct this point. Fortunately, I hedged my bets in the original video, saying only, "...in the novel, it is Lutèce." Actually, the 1974 Goldman book uses the restaurant's name no fewer than six times.
@richardichard4237
@richardichard4237 Ай бұрын
It's not difficult for anyone making a video about a film scene to read the name of the restaurant on the front of the menu that Hoffman is holding....For fuk sake....!?
@mybingobrain
@mybingobrain 5 күн бұрын
What a great insight!
@MrMichaellee5353
@MrMichaellee5353 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see the deleted where Doc early on in the film kills an assassin who murdered his colleague. Apparently, this was filmed, but deleted as it was deemed to violent
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Ай бұрын
Wasnt this based on a book?
@steboTCB
@steboTCB Ай бұрын
​@@mikearchibald744 it was and he did a sequel to it that was good.
@timisaac8121
@timisaac8121 Ай бұрын
Very insightful and enjoyable presentation. Thanks!
@mrv6968
@mrv6968 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I was sitting here on a Friday night wondering what to watch and your video magically was recommended by KZfaq's algorithm. It's as if the AI is reading my mind. 😃
@obsessedwithcinema
@obsessedwithcinema Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service.
@StevenLolli
@StevenLolli Ай бұрын
Man this was a really great analysis. Even though scene is somewhat obvious, you masterfully articulated it's meaning. And agreed that I always felt it's my favorite scene in the film.
@anotherjoshua
@anotherjoshua 18 күн бұрын
great analysis
@mooville32
@mooville32 9 ай бұрын
Like so many others I wish the footage that was cut of Doc killing the two assassins in the airport in the beginning was out there somewhere/anywhere. Thank you so much for this!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I could never get enough of Doc. Luckily, there are Scheider's roles in "Klute" and "52 Pick-Up."
@mooville32
@mooville32 6 ай бұрын
@@KutWrite I watched a Klute featurette many years ago and I remember a quick clip where Pakula's on the set yelling, "Roy Scheider? Where is Roy Scheider?"
@StopDropNDoIt
@StopDropNDoIt Ай бұрын
I’m blown away by your insight to this movie, which I also watched at a very young age and recently had my 4 teenage daughters watch it with me. Can’t wait to watch another one of your reviews, I hope they are as good as this one.
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 Ай бұрын
@StopDropNDolt what's the best scene in the movie?
@timtonner946
@timtonner946 Ай бұрын
Great analysis. I was 16 when this terrific film came out, and was blown away by it. What suspense! Had to read the book shortly thereafter...
@perrymalcolm3802
@perrymalcolm3802 Ай бұрын
I love your take and how it reminds me of a movie that influenced me very much in high school. So much so, in composing our Senior play, I put in the dentist scene from MM. 😊
@andrewsawicki6586
@andrewsawicki6586 25 күн бұрын
Thank you. I e seen that movie 1/2 way. So many times I never really got it nor Roy Schneider role was so complex. Def going to watch again
@skyler951
@skyler951 Жыл бұрын
70,s movies are the best
@forcedtohaveahandle
@forcedtohaveahandle 7 ай бұрын
There was something special about them, which will likely not be repeated again…
@skyler951
@skyler951 7 ай бұрын
Amen.@@forcedtohaveahandle
@samszulman7851
@samszulman7851 Жыл бұрын
Great work... such an underrated fim
@obsessedwithcinema
@obsessedwithcinema Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@petenrita
@petenrita Ай бұрын
Great analysis
@gregperez919
@gregperez919 Ай бұрын
I remember when this movie came out. But with so many other great movies I never saw this one. But I will remedy that soon. Thanks so much. Great explanation.
@davidmacnab5213
@davidmacnab5213 Ай бұрын
Great analysis. I need to watch this movie again. Have been haunted by it for almost 50 years!
@NoMoreAsterisks
@NoMoreAsterisks Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@izregistered
@izregistered 7 күн бұрын
New sub here! Great analysis and commentary 🎉
@SailorGerry
@SailorGerry 19 күн бұрын
Every dentist should watch this movie...
@carlhunton9516
@carlhunton9516 6 күн бұрын
Brilliant job
@deannoble673
@deannoble673 8 күн бұрын
Superb script by the great William Goldman. His book Adventures in the Screen Trade is an excellent read.
@fromtherubble6890
@fromtherubble6890 22 күн бұрын
Brilliant book/brilliant movie...Best action-book I've read
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