How fast can you pay back the loan in Alton Towers?

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Alton Towers has a massive €4,770,000 loan, and I want to pay it back as quickly as possible.
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@TheCatthedragon 8 ай бұрын

"The guests went to the bathroom approximately 1.3 times per burger." Thank you for translating into American units. This really helps things make sense for your overseas audience.

@weetniksjimmy 8 ай бұрын

@xExekut3x 8 ай бұрын

something wrong with those burgers if guests are crapping that much because of them

@melvinjansen2338 7 ай бұрын

Savage

@pikachuchujelly7628 5 ай бұрын

lmao 🤣

@doomsdayrabbit4398 Ай бұрын

@@xExekut3xSounds like what theme park food does to me.

@PicnicAtTheTesco 8 ай бұрын

A map, an umbrella and 13 burgers - my usual trip to Alton Towers.

@cattrucker8257 8 ай бұрын

The map shows you how to fit 13 burgers in.

@Croz89 8 ай бұрын

Sadly the only decent burgers are at the rollercoaster restaurant, the burger kitchen ones are worse than McDonald's.

@SemiHypercube 8 ай бұрын

I like how this run ends up being just tricking thousands of guests into paying 70 for a burger shop, umbrella, and toilets

@nthgth 8 ай бұрын

In my headcanon they're government employees and they're using our money so they're glad to do it

@HarrisonRocks 8 ай бұрын

Just like the real Alton Towers!

@rulerofmonkeys1547 8 ай бұрын

Its their fault for walking that far into a forest for no reason

@heyjakeay 8 ай бұрын

So just like in real life 😂

@snowflakepillow8697 8 ай бұрын

In before it’d be a good deal IRL

@TotoDG 8 ай бұрын

The Tom Scott cameo at 1:16 is already pretty amusing on its own, but it's made magnitudes better by the fact that he actually made a video at the *real* Alton Towers.

@mkaali 8 ай бұрын

And red shirt

@edopronk1303 8 ай бұрын

I hadn't noticed. Great observation!

@fl0dego511 8 ай бұрын

Did you see Aang, Katara, Sokka and Zuko some seconds later? ;)

@beanoptodon 8 ай бұрын

He's been doing that in a ton of his videos for some time now.

@ianmoore5502 8 ай бұрын

@@beanoptodonit's the little things

@nathangamble125 8 ай бұрын

1:16 Tom Scott: I'm here at Alton Towers, and the owners are currently starting a massive renovation project...

@mylittleparody2277 8 күн бұрын

Why did I read it in his voices? XD

@StefanVeenstra 8 ай бұрын

Marcel: “Want to keep my sanity, thank you very much” Also Marcel: “Here's a calculator made from rollercoasters”

@pialamode 8 ай бұрын

This is one of the cases where exploiting RCT game mechanics looks very similar to when a slimy corporation buys up a theme park IRL, scraps everything, then turns it into a way to wring money out of people. They usually at least let people ride the rides though.

@nthgth 8 ай бұрын

Compared to some other stuff we've seen him do, Marcel was relatively kind to the guests in this one lol

@HECKproductions 8 ай бұрын

1:20 "tom scott" in a bright red shirt... now THAT is a good easter egg

@Wh173c0c0 8 ай бұрын

Charging guests 70 Euros for the privilege of buying 20 Euro umbrellas never fails to be funny. Well done, Marcel.

@Rock1290T 8 ай бұрын

The amount of effort you put into your videos is incredible. Marcel, you are one of the few creators where I legitimately smile when you upload! Love your videos man

@ryanpenrod1859 8 ай бұрын

I never thought I'd see a frame-perfect input in RCT

@newcastlegeorge 8 ай бұрын

1:18 "I'm walking into Alton Towers"

@decalcomanie123 8 ай бұрын

Yes I hate it when I travel to England and visit the widely advertised Alton Towers, only to discover that all of the identical rides are inaccessible, leaving only a shop that staight-up just sells hamburgers and umbrellas, and a toilet available.

@jesseleeward2359 4 ай бұрын

Well now you know who to blame. They should never have released Alton Towers to general public.

@toainsully 4 ай бұрын

Not to mention a lot has changed at Alton Towers 1. Nemesis is now "Nemesis Reborn" 2. Black Hole has been replaced with the Smiler 3. Log Flume has become the site of the Wicker Man 4. Corkscrew's iconic inversion still stands as a memorial outside the park entrance 5. Many new lands have taken over the old ones, e.g. Cbeebies Land

@5MadMovieMakers 8 ай бұрын

Super Mario speedrunner: I fear no man, but RCT, that thing scares me

@lagg1e 8 ай бұрын

This really stood out to me. We are GAMING in here!

@DUKEHadToDoItToEm 8 ай бұрын

I wish they would fix and put actual updates into the game you're referencing ):

@weedwums 8 ай бұрын

@@DUKEHadToDoItToEmcheck out tf2classic

@familybroakajonny 8 ай бұрын

BLJ: “I’m I a joke to you?”

@sessaine 8 ай бұрын

Marcel's runs always feel like some sort of weird capitalism endgame and i'm here for when his prophecies inevitably come true

@choronos 8 ай бұрын

I'm happy there's still an audience for this game. I grew up playing Roller Coaster Tycoon games in the early 2000s. The intro to the original game is burned into my memory, with the iconic chain lift sound and the screaming passengers. Sometimes I would just watch the demo clips go by and listen to the theme music for a while. My happy place inside my brain is the sound the guests make in a crowded park. I've always thought that it sounds like there's a kid shouting "Lickitung!" (Pokemon) in the mix.

@ATBatmanMALS31 8 ай бұрын

I haven't thought about it in years... probably going to go buy it right now lol. It's a great game, and the open version seems pretty sweet.

@mcohen8025 8 ай бұрын

Sometimes when I’m at work, I’ll just get this random little tune in my head and be like “what is that…” it’s the RTC theme.

@TrustyGun2 8 ай бұрын

I'm curious, did you manage to accomplish the objective in the second run?

@MarcelVos 8 ай бұрын

I did! I had about 2800 guests at the end of year 3, and the next month it rained which got me down to 2100.

@mandowarrior123 8 ай бұрын

This is what I wanted to know.

@philipmurphy2 8 ай бұрын

A fun thing to maybe try and do also with the Alton Towers RCT park is to remove rides and try and make a more up to date version of Alton Towers. Because we all know the actual park of Alton Towers has changed quite a bit since RCT come out over time.

@toainsully 8 ай бұрын

I tried doing that as well. E.g. Replacing "Black Hole" with the Smiler

@Timmzy27 8 ай бұрын

1 “challenge” I’d like to see is, can you make the “real park” maps up to date to current 2023 counterparts? How accurate can you make them to what exists today as I know Alton Towers has changed a fair bit

@JayROwen 8 ай бұрын

I never understood why the real parks had massive loans. It made the scenario virtually unplayable in "normal" circumstances because you'd run out of cash after such a short time.

@jimmypatton4982 8 ай бұрын

Real amusement parks actually had those high loans. Definitely undercharged as a kid, build rides big and complex and charged 2 to 4 dollars, cause that was a lot instead of the 14 to 20 dollars allowed.

@pikachuchujelly7628 5 ай бұрын

Real theme parks cost anywhere from $500 million to $4 billion to build, so that requires a massive loan unlike anything you see in RCT.

@louisathellama 8 ай бұрын

The little Easter eggs like renaming guests to avatar characters or Tom Scott always make these videos a joy to watch

@kylepollicove3564 8 ай бұрын

Imagine showing someone from 2003 the park that repays debt the fastest. Like showing Plato a computer.

@antarean 8 ай бұрын

I was *hoping* you'd do a video answering that exact question, how quickly you can pay off those massive loans. Those scenarios feel like you won them in a poker game from the previous park owner who was trying to escape all their debt.

@TheBalthassar 8 ай бұрын

So unrealistic that it rains so infrequently in a UK park.

@keNNed1987 8 ай бұрын

This has got to be the most mindblowing RCT video I've seen of yours yet :p Simply amazing!

@Hinjima92 8 ай бұрын

I always get very happy whenever you upload Marcel, its a joy to watch! Great quality with fantastic humor :) Keep up the good work, love and support from Norway.

@bobbythefish4836 8 ай бұрын

The financial situation of this scenario is depressingly true to life. The loan principle is inexplicably high, with interest payments almost half the value of the total assets, and even an aggressively exploitative payback scheme still takes 16+ years to pay back the loan in entirety...

@1WolfFan 8 ай бұрын

"I'd like to keep my sanity, thank you very much." - Oh that ship has sailed my friend. ;) And I'm not even talking about the (somewhat recent) scenarios you make where it'll take literal millions of IRL years to beat them. It started WAY before that. ;) But that's why I love your videos. You do the insane research the rest of us are afraid to even start. And it's super helpful, because buried in most of the videos is actual helpful advice for us casual players to adapt into our games and improve our regular games. :) One case in point, thanks to your recent "mythbusting the manual" video, I'm already saving up to half an hour per scenario, NOT worrying about some of the dynamics I thought have been there since the beginning. So thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos, and keep them coming.

@Keyshooter 8 ай бұрын

game: "you failed the scenerio! better luck next time! ..... why are you still here, you fail!" marcel: "my goals are beyond your understanding"

@Mamamarcel 8 ай бұрын

Legend says if you can find a drink stall in Alton Towers you can meet a Super Mario speedrunner!

@shockwavedan 8 ай бұрын

I love it when you play "real" park scenarios, it's always a fun time!

@PhoenixRoseYT 8 ай бұрын

Have been watching your streams while sick from food poisoning cuz I needed some calm videos to watch. Was looking forward to this vid 😊

@bagotky 8 ай бұрын

As soon as i saw you increasing price for umbrelas to maximum i knew this video is authentic RCT experience :D

@DoubleSpoiler 7 ай бұрын

i suppose you could technically sell all of the paths to get a bit more money, though it certainly wouldn't be enough to make a dent in the loan repayments. good job on this one!

@DEF4L7 Ай бұрын

14:29 😂"the game goes : ladiedadieda" i haven't laughed this hard in a while

@kylegarms4571 8 ай бұрын

Possible idea: Forcing all guests to leave every few years. Rain forces it. Might be able to force rain with save loading until it does, but that is boring Not sure if deleting the one tile would make them leave or free them to the park, their are buildings there, not sure if guests will walk through the building. Win with Murder?: You might be able to use guests deleted into the area under the ground to have guests always coming into the park. Those are just my first thoughts.

@nthgth 8 ай бұрын

Yes, to eliminate the concern of the soft guest cap and all the associated overhead and trouble. Maybe Marcel thought that would be too "cheap" 🤷🏻‍♂️ I admit I don't think that video would be as enjoyable as this one.

@MarcelVos 8 ай бұрын

The soft guest cap itself it not a problem as those boat hires cost 42 a piece and have no running costs. I'm even getting back 70% of that when I delete them at the end. It would save a little bit for the best food and toilets awards, as you need to have a certain amount of toilets and food stalls in your park per guest, and they do have running costs. However, by forcing the guests out for any reason other than the fact that they're broke you lose out on money they'd otherwise spend, so it's probably a bad idea to do that.

@kylegarms4571 8 ай бұрын

@@MarcelVos Thanks for pointing that out. I thought it was getting passed the guest cap. Because a new guest is worth more than the leftover money in the older guest. The Entry price is more than the remaining max 30 in the pockets. (max 100 spawn - 70 entry fee) So it must have been the rain umbrella purchases doing the max income when it was raining. But the umbrellas were at 20, so only 50% of guests can purchase one, less than that if the ones with 20 bought food. My ideas all fail if the park is not at the soft guest cap. Thanks for letting me know that my idea depended on that, and that it was not being reached.

@PicnicAtTheTesco 8 ай бұрын

Name your guest Tom Scott and he will have a red shirt!

@CTGrell 8 ай бұрын

I literally was just thinking about this the other day as I was playing that scenario. thanks for answering so quick even tho I didn't even ask you yet XD

@moviestove2099 8 ай бұрын

I love these RCT scenario challenge vids, please keep making them.

@RainingMetal 8 ай бұрын

In RCT1 the ability to charge for both rides and the park should not be slept on. This way, you can get a profit for each guest yet you won't run into the trap of having guests who won't leave and deny you more income because they'll run out of cash to spend on rides. Also, never go for the free entrance marketing campaign when you can do the same with half price entrance vouchers instead.

@lexingtonbrython1897 8 ай бұрын

Can you not do both free entry and half-price entry?

@RainingMetal 8 ай бұрын

@@lexingtonbrython1897 I don't think so in the original RCT1; picking one of them disables the other during activation. This video shows it's possible in OpenRCT2.

@dylweezy117 8 ай бұрын

Clicked in as soon as I could. Another masterclass is RCT manipulation, well done.

@Rubbly 8 ай бұрын

I liked the frame-perfect input breakdown 😂😂

@johnkimble3413 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if the execs at alton towers are looking at this video and are considering this as their next stratagy? anyway I love these videos

@NathanMandjes 8 ай бұрын

Glad you are still sane by not escorting every guest to the exit by hand. Hilarious. So we can still enjoy your videos!

@thomaskidd8027 8 ай бұрын

POV: Dave Ramsey plays Roller Coaster Tycoon

@Nordryd 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for reigniting my interest in this childhood favorite. I downloaded OpenRCT2 and have never had more fun with the game in my life.

@space_pirate_calamity 5 ай бұрын

An interesting fact about the Boat Hire: in RCT1, a Boat Hire CAN break down, but only if you are using the bumper boats. Such a great small detail that the guest-powered ones like the rowboats and canoes don't break down, but the machine-powered ones like the bumper boats do.

@tree453 8 ай бұрын

not gonna lie, the pausing in a single frame thing was cool as hell man

@carlstenger5893 8 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks!

@planescaped 8 ай бұрын

I associate these uploads with my lunchbreak at work, because you upload them so consistently during it, lol.

@RooMan93 8 ай бұрын

So glad my last visit to Alton Towers was last summer, before Marcel could exploit my mechanics.

@Davtwan 8 ай бұрын

Thankfully you weren’t doing this run while my UK friend was having a vacation in Atlon Towers lol.

@CameraTim 8 ай бұрын

14:45 is probably the most relatable moment I've ever seen.

@weltenbummler2535 8 ай бұрын

I know it was played as a joke, but I am honestly impressed by your frame perfect click 😁 goed gedaan!

@Teddy0567 8 ай бұрын

a map, an umbrella and 12 burgers. such an great line

@bdown08 8 ай бұрын

I beat all of the scenarios in the original RCT1 game, and not having the cash machine made things so much harder. I ended up consistently charging $5 for almost every coaster since it was a nice balance that would still make plenty of money without draining guests wallets.

@Essman614 8 ай бұрын

Just goes to show you can do anything when you disregard decency and human suffering

@zaxtonhong3958 8 ай бұрын

As far as human suffering goes, this is somewhat tame. The people can leave whenever they want. None of the guests died (besides whoever might’ve been on the receiving end of Marcel’s insatiable urge to pick up and drown guests)

@ericfuchs123 8 ай бұрын

As we know, it almost never rains in England, so this video is accurate.

@CaloCreek 8 ай бұрын

I'm just obsessed with how you play the game haha!

@HamsterWheelGaming 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys I'm Marcel here at SGDQ, and this is my any% Alton Towers 0 dept speedrun. 3..2..1..go!

@jediclank134 8 ай бұрын

i love the videos keep them up

@RampantLeaf 8 ай бұрын

The park is basically a North American highway rest stop: a burger place, an information kiosk, and a toilet.

@Comp1337Loser 3 ай бұрын

14:35 "IT STILL FELT GREAT, GOD DAMMIT!" 😆

@DPush420 8 ай бұрын

Congrats on your first FPI. You earned it.

@Superhorst100 8 ай бұрын

I feel like you didn’t have to do the second attempt to go through it all again just to prove your point but I love you for it haha

@garnaudiz 8 ай бұрын

I don't know why, but it's so relaxing to listen to him haha

@MrJonnyharry 8 ай бұрын

I love that Tom Scott visited your park.

@Tichooon 8 ай бұрын

That frame perfect pause was just *chefs kiss*

@argentpuck 8 ай бұрын

The odds of going a year without an award in your scenario may be around 1 in 4000, but that's also the odds of finding a shiny Pokemon. It's wild how long but still achievable odds can crop up.

@SlingshotFooty 3 ай бұрын

RCT Speedrunner extraordinaire!

@Miles_3298 8 ай бұрын

I'm appreciating the set of names at 1:33; I freakin' love that show. I really enjoy touches like this in these videos.

@johnbrady645 2 ай бұрын

I love the frame perfect ad campaign pause in Year 12

@IambiguousSegment 7 ай бұрын

I feel bad for the poor guests having to endure this mad dutchman.

@DerGetrollte 8 ай бұрын

The fact that the Heide Park is a scenario in RCT is mind blowing to me. It's my most visited theme park.

@bitbah9240 8 ай бұрын

thank you marcel for the new video!!

@ChamblesRNG 3 ай бұрын

Wow... Played this game a lot but never realised its so broken.. Thank you sir

@ZetaHeart12 8 ай бұрын

Every day I watch a new Marcel Vos video is a good day

@RubUOutC 8 ай бұрын

Definitely recommend a visit to Blackpool Pleasure Beach IRL even over Alton Towers.

@mkaali 7 ай бұрын

It would be interesting see, how much different this would be with access to the ATM. Hope you'll make a similar "make money the fastest" challenge with pay-per-ride park!

@portalmasterjake5267 8 ай бұрын

mad respect for that frame perfect pause

@sirloinestakegames7866 8 ай бұрын

I dreamed this for years. You have fulfilled a childhood dream. I love you.

@StriKe_jk 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a new speedrun has been born.

@carltonleboss 8 ай бұрын

Marcel truly is the best park operator

@robbieandrew4075 7 ай бұрын

There is actually one more "Real" park in RCT1 (although they don't tell you that) - Katie's Dreamland is based on Lightwater Valley in northern England. I worked there for one summer as a teenager, and believe me it is almost an exact replica, just with different ride names (apart from Batflyer, that coaster was real and was called Batflyer lol). Even the underground coaster is real!

@animestein 8 ай бұрын

Wow I remember spending hours trying to pay back that loan. Over the span of several months without success. But I now know why I failed, Silly little me tried to build a theme park with rides and stalls etc. I was not yet a fully grown capitalist with an appreciation for dystopian investment portfolios. Ah nostalgia, well thank you for the excellent video, and for going that extra mile by doing it at least twice! Next up lets see what Marcel can do with America's debt!...or lets not.

@digitaldeathsquid3448 8 ай бұрын

1:40 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, YOU MONSTER?!

@CarnageCrab 8 ай бұрын

Marcel using the Eric Cartman tactic. I'VE GOT MY OWN THEME PARK, AND YOU CAN'T COME!

@kiko_meeko 8 ай бұрын

Wow, I've never accidentally been so early to a video lol Edit: Nice video as always. Poor Toph didnt get any representation though 😔 I'm sure she wouldn't have seen that coming.

@mart555rct 8 ай бұрын

Nice Tom Scott cameo!

@BrendaDelam 8 ай бұрын

11:03 Just a theory, but is it possible that rides cannot break down when the park is closed, or that it may be in some way tied to having guests in your park?

@DAAC86 8 ай бұрын

oh holy jesus I can see my relaxing play of this game and to this day is one of my favorit games but I have been doing it wrong all this time

@b438 8 ай бұрын

I saw Tom Scott at 1:19 😂

@DaanVsp 8 ай бұрын

i love your videos

@MickanMansRCTStation 8 ай бұрын

Hahahah I absolutely loved this

@CptManboobs 8 ай бұрын

There is something incredibly dystopian about how this all works.

@erika_fuzzbottom 8 ай бұрын

Have you tried completing a scenario by buiding a park _outside_ the park's boundaries, using sandbox mode? As long as the park's entrance is blocked off, guests will ride rides and shop at stalls outside the park. A challenge like this provides some unique obstacles. For example, you cannot place mechanics on land you don't have build permission on, nor will mechanics wander any paths built outside the park boundaries. So purchasing land rights is necessary for ride exits, assuming you're willing to place a mechanic at the exit of every ride. Guests outside the park boundaries do not count towards your guest total, so scenarios with a guest goal are impossible to do with this challenge. Most interestingly, guests become incapable of leaving the map once they have either purchased something or rode a ride.

@toainsully 8 ай бұрын

It's amazing to compare RCT1 Alton Towers to present-day Alton Towers and see what's changed / what was left in

@DT-hg7te 4 ай бұрын

I considered opening the game up (the android version) in the queue for The Smiler on Monday, but I thought better of it when I remembered doing it in Walibi annoyed everyone I was with.