Marie Louise Von Franz - Women Who Play Up The Anima

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3 жыл бұрын

In this clip, ML von Franz talks about "anima women" - women we all know in real life who are full of feminine energy in a way that appeals to men's anima projection. She talks about the case of Marylin Monroe and how it ultimately led to her death.
This clip from a documentary called The Way of the Dream. Full video here: • Video

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@ronaldoferreira594
@ronaldoferreira594 2 жыл бұрын
"Destructive to us and to men: when women play too much the anima." This woman has a lot to offer to young women. (Rosa)
@bamboor
@bamboor 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I call a 40 minute video in 3 minutes... So much knowledge.
@evakrider
@evakrider 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excerpt from the 16 part series with Fraser Boa interviews with Marie Louise Von Franz called "The Way of the Dream".
@vincentiustheconquerer1349
@vincentiustheconquerer1349 2 жыл бұрын
But then there comes along a man who has been capable of living with his Anima in where he sees how one is missing that which he has embraced and uses it for genuine compassion, care,and love he once forgotten. He now can begin to bring that to the world that has slowly drifted away from it. Unconditional ❤
@bloocifer
@bloocifer 3 жыл бұрын
this lady is so goddamn bloody intelligent. its insane. ive never seen such a well-spoken woman. she's truly amazing
@Unconditional---love
@Unconditional---love Жыл бұрын
This is because she's worked on herself and became a whole individual, that's called individuation. 99% of people just remain ignorant playing characters that are desired by society. Most ppl prefer to wear a social mask and violate their true nature and potentialities. It's catastrophic. We don't receive education, we receive conditioning instead. Those in control of society don't want trully educated people because these individuals are free, they're unique, they won't follow the herd so they can't be controlled.
@michaelhussey440
@michaelhussey440 2 жыл бұрын
This is frequently true with attractive women and begins in their teens and she is quite right to label it as power. This element of power is rarely acknowledged by feminists who prefer to speak of women being objectified, as if their own behaviours have no part in the process and as if they are powerLESS in the dynamic.
@arttrixmix7178
@arttrixmix7178 2 жыл бұрын
it's sorta both things at the same time. the situation isn't exclusively 'women getting objectified with no upsides whatsoever' or anything like that, but there's a sort-of benchmark of expectation (i.e. what men might find appealing) that women get a number of benefits from if they play into it. it's pretty effective if they do/are able to do that. the other dimension to this though is that plenty women get interpreted in reference to the 'benchmark' even if they're more interested in doing something completely different, and even though their budding efforts might be good at first, there's still an effect of being demeaned/not listened to about it, since it's not fitting the narrow role so, really in this situation there's 2 options, 1. have an intense preoccupation with playing into other people's wants/needs that way, or 2. develop things and understandings yourself while coming off to other people as little more than a painting with 'imperfect' superficial detail. losing yourself vs losing understanding from other people. it is actually possible to break free from it eventually and get taken seriously on your own terms, but it's not automatically easy, and people in general (not just women, but in this situation it's women) aren't huge fans of hard work without the most immediate gratification/payoff, so you (unfortunately) won't see it often. it does happen every now and again though. that's my interpretation anyway
@MJ_X2
@MJ_X2 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's really not true power. What good did it do Marilyn Monroe in the end? It didn't get her what she truly wanted and she ended up killing herself. Either way, men have their own responsibility for this situation. Young women would not play into this if they didn't observe how effective it is. If men rejected this, if they didn't objectify women in this way, and worked collectively to integrate the anima then poof - no more so called power. I also think you're incorrect that it's not acknowledged, it's a huge open motivation for third wave liberal feminists push to legitimize sex work.
@michaelhussey440
@michaelhussey440 2 жыл бұрын
@@MJ_X2 Being attractive gives power, regardless of your gender, but I agree its not such an asset if its not matched with personal development , personal empowerment. I think it is too simplistic to say that men can just dispel the power of women by integrating their anima, which is a complex and deep psychosexual force which the vast majority of men are unaware of. Dont forget that for several millennia men were required by society to alienate the feminine in their personality and to disdain it, in order to satisfy a society which demanded they step up and defend everyone from any form of physical threat from another tribe or a wild animal or from the physical environment , and to demonstrate emotional strength and resilience to stress too. Women cemented this demand on men by choosing those males who conformed to this role and ridiculing those who did not. At this point in history women are making faster progress than men in their task of integrating the animus because it is easier for an individual to see such things as becoming more assertive, developing a strong body or being ambitious at work as empowering , whereas men's task in developing their nurturing and empathetic potential and embracing vulnerability is less obviously recognised as a form of empowerment.
@theravenmagick
@theravenmagick 3 ай бұрын
Embodying a man’s Anima is a FALSE power. For she is a puppet to her Animus and a Mask to herself
@Banebelladonna
@Banebelladonna Ай бұрын
I like this because it's true women should be able to do what makes her feel right whether it be cover herself up or liberate herself through showing off her body etc
@w0rloko
@w0rloko 3 жыл бұрын
that's an interview I would like to listen to
@akh5131
@akh5131 3 жыл бұрын
The ending got me
@capitalistocrat
@capitalistocrat 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htN4l5l30sC6pH0.html it continues here
@chrisgould101
@chrisgould101 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like a reverse engineering of modem feminism.
@obliooberon3679
@obliooberon3679 5 ай бұрын
No feminism is engineered by the females ANIMUS! Duality of an extreme.
@nclayton877
@nclayton877 3 жыл бұрын
Keep going with the content!
@Puuws
@Puuws 7 ай бұрын
it doenst have to be hunger for power but can also wanting to have attention, approval as a subsittute for love. If a woman wants power, its often coppled with a more sexual expression, while marilyn was more sensual and innocent/ditzy. Still the lack of authenticity will make you very sad but the motivation isnt as selfish and destructive of others, its more innocent. She was a star as well, idk if she roleplayed all the time
@mdriesel6259
@mdriesel6259 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload! Has she also ever discussed men who play the Anima?
@individuationportal
@individuationportal 3 жыл бұрын
men would play to a woman's animus (the man inside the woman). interesting, i will see if i can find something on this. but of course we all know these types of men who are able to attract a lot of women by being mysterious, bad boy, etc
@Keagan_Being
@Keagan_Being 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve witnessed gay men doing exactly as you mentioned, really interesting to dive into
@nite1414
@nite1414 2 жыл бұрын
Men playing the part of Anima 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nite1414
@nite1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@Keagan_Being 😂😂😂
@theravenmagick
@theravenmagick 10 ай бұрын
I’m feeling this
@DivoGo
@DivoGo 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the complete interview?? This is awesome!👍🏾
@individuationportal
@individuationportal 3 жыл бұрын
This clip from a documentary called The Way of the Dream. Full video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLB5ddV70ryro4k.html
@deborahferguson1163
@deborahferguson1163 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s no longer available on u-tube.
@Banebelladonna
@Banebelladonna Ай бұрын
I love hearing various perspectives and this is amazing. I have always studied and venerated a lot of dark goddesses and I really think that we are getting so far away from the dark feminine archtype. I have been trying to deconstruct what I'm seeing play out in 2024. For instance no one is talking about other aspects of the dark feminine is just seduction etc.
@stefal22
@stefal22 Ай бұрын
You have to live it to understand it
@Mattthemerciful
@Mattthemerciful 3 жыл бұрын
Anima projection is a mother complex?
@coolcolt2611
@coolcolt2611 3 жыл бұрын
the anima is an archetype and the mother is a complex, they can relate but i dont believe they directly interact in that way
@annZ2636
@annZ2636 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Mother is the root of first the Mother complex and then developing to anima projection. This is how it develops in human psyce.
@umerwani1178
@umerwani1178 Ай бұрын
So does it mean healing mother complex will eventually transform the black anima projection.
@mrrjh5609
@mrrjh5609 2 ай бұрын
OMG
@jelmet
@jelmet 2 ай бұрын
¿Cuando un hombre ama realmente a la mujer? más allá de la imagen la proyección de su anima, en la fase de adaptación igualmente puede quedar siempre algo por descubrir y valorar en la mujer, a no ser que sea seducido por otra mujer que lo complazca más en la cama
@obliooberon3679
@obliooberon3679 5 ай бұрын
Left out is the other side of the same coin , the ANIMUS is acting out the Animus opinions! Whoever she is ,as she puts her makeup on and dresses herself , it is for "him" , the Animus opinions of what looks good to him ! For sure !
@Alazsel
@Alazsel Жыл бұрын
Femme fatale
@paulmessis1094
@paulmessis1094 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you start to dislike the anima projection, is that a shadow thing?
@obliooberon3679
@obliooberon3679 5 ай бұрын
Totally different thing, playing or pretending vs wearing it or getting dressed up!
@Crookqt
@Crookqt 6 ай бұрын
1:25 Ni ledena ni dosadna ti neces biti 🤣🤣🤣🤣Deification...He doesnt see me as a human being he sees only my image.
@juanita_piju
@juanita_piju Жыл бұрын
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