I am so happy to see this comment because this is exactly what the ballet was supposed to evoke in 1913. The people had such closed minds they rioted and the thing only performed nine times before being buried. This is a very raw story of a tribe appeasing a sun god so that he will keep the Earth fertile and they'll survive another year but they have to give him a virgin in exchange. But this sun god is a sick bastard and he wants the girl to kill herself. And the final solo is her dancing herself to death! You got this exactly right

And wanted you to know that I made two videos talking about the ballet and if you have any suggestions take a look at them and feel free to make them in the comments. I think they are on the front page of my channel but they're called " let's talk about La sacre". You have a lot of passion about the ballet and I'm interested to hear your opinions!

I didn’t like the music until I saw the ballet. Then it made perfect sense, and I love the music without the ballet. Truly brilliant.

@@rupertpollard24 I just did a little video of talking about just that it's in my playlist.. so I absolutely understand that and I'm really happy.

I thought that I had replied to you but it looks like I may not have. Simply put this comment is brilliant

When you think of how Robert Joffrey's wish was to find and stage that lost Nijinsky choreography which would really honor and set Nijinsky free... and that he did it with end-stage cancer and was able to see it realized you have to connect the two men eternally.

I'm so glad you got that feeling - the connection of the music to the ballet is amazing. Want to hear what it is about while I am drinking vodka?? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqbpZWAsZ22mYU.htmlsi=t01MC7yTJyyzg_fB

I'm glad you like the performance but I completely disagree with you on the merits of the companies

It remains fascinating and contemporary, both ballet and music, which is really over the top sometimes (the introduction of the elder is really like bringing in King Kong, so ominous 😊). Thank you for sharing.

@@christophedevos3760 Max Steiner absolutely took pieces of this for King Kong but akira Ifukube literally became a composer after hearing the Rite of Spring and he took a piece from the "sacrificial dance" for the theme as homage to Stravinsky.

@@fatovamingus yes, it has been so influential that many aspects are recycled over and over again in other pieces by other composers, it's 'une oeuvre phare' to put it in French.

Indeed. And Pina Bausch did a modern dance version that is stunning.

I had the original Marinsky from 2008 but Bel-Air classics took it down and pretty much threw all of the music theory students around the country over a cliff because they no longer had no longer had something to watch that engaged

@@fatovamingus So sad... I have collected a few versions from that time period over the years from youtube.

I’d love to see this done by marionettes. You’re quite right.

A ballet dancer (ballerino) in the masculine and (ballerina) in the feminine is a person who practices the art of classical ballet. Both men and women can practice it, however, the hierarchy and gender roles are strict. Belonging to a professional company requires years of extensive training and proper technique. The dancers are not marionettes as you indicate: this is improper! As for the ballet originally choreographed by Vaslav Nijinsky, there are actually two arrangements, that of 1913 and 1947. A choreography is quite simply a codified language which dancers are required to respect. Le Sacre du Printemps (The Rite of Spring) is in itself a major work of the 20th century. Le Sacre (The Rite) is received neither scandalously nor gloriously at London. Ballet makes a strong impression and beautiful feeling in the Parisian capital. There is something to add !?! *Lucien*

Oh I think Daria Pavlenko is "Chosen One Royalty". She adds the coolest little nuances to the "death rattle"

I guess to elaborate: these dancers look like they're kind of having fun, whereas the Joffrey dancers seemed to become those creepy pagans and had this "we're gonna getcha" vibe (to my 10 year old interpretation)

​@lilliedoubleyou3865 I get what you mean and I completely agree. The Joffrey one used to be my favourite interpretation until I saw this just now. Not just the better quality but I love how you can actually see more emotion in the characters

Crazy rebel. Who Frank Zappa would go on to idolize so there you go

I do not know if I replied to this but YOU ARE SPOT ON. The Joffrey had the benefit of never seeing the ballet and had to draw from within and it is a marvel.

Agree. I have DVD of this one but prefer Joffrey. Wish that one was available on DVD.

I really wanted to like the Joffrey production, but found the dancing oafish and poorly timed from beginning to end. Nothing about its clumsy execution could explain why anyone would have been excited about Nijjinsky's choreography. Then I saw this, the same choreography, but executed with the precision and high skills that the Mariinsky ballet brings to its work. Don't forget Nijinsky trained at the Mariiinsky when it was the Imperial Russian Ballet.

​@@MisterJeffyI danced for Oakland Ballet and Leonide Massine and Madame Nijinska's choreography model and coach. They were ancient at that time. 1977. This is Ballet Russe and the very air in the theater is alive with history. Joffrey is one of four American ballet companies. The youngest. ABT was Balanchine who replaced Nijinsky. Joffrey is a good company but being a ballet dancer allows you to see....

I only have one question to you: are you a dancer? This is not an argument, I'm just politely curious

My only bone of contention with the Maestro was that he associated himself briefly with an anti-semite like Walt Disney.

@@fatovamingus Disney was not anti-semitic. Was he not the one posting the Donald Duck anti-Nazi war machine satire? Does not sound as if he would have agreed to the barbarisms going on.

Doesn't matter how you get there as long as you get there

​@@elisaausberlin4838you know I had to take a deeper dive on that and it is accepted now that he was not an anti-semite but was a very serious racist and his family documented that. The racist thing sort of bears out in some of those cartoons don't you think?

I see what you did there.

@@mateovillacorta2279 I was concerned no one would ever catch that joke

Also very much based on the original, Nijinski and Roerich.

@@Gelon01 you know I wrote a great response to you and deleted. This is Nijinsky's choreography at least it's the best we're going to ever get. When Joffrey Ballet performed it -televised- in 1989 there was a lot of emotion involved and not just because the dancers had to dig from within themselves to make the choreography meet the scenario Nicholas Roerich wrote (there was no video to watch there were no pictures-they were pioneering this ballet). But not only did it require that type of emotion which was captured on film but Robert Joffrey was dying of cancer and he wanted to validate and resurrect Nikinsky before he died. Hodson and Archer managed to do it. I feel like Robert Joffrey sort of set digitski free because this man's choreography was buried after nine performances. And he never received the accolades he deserved. Robert Jeffrey delivered that to all of us really. He died shortly after the performance. If you want to read anything about that I wrote a very emotional piece about it: thisisnotswanlake.com/2024/03/20/the-nijinsky-inheritance-3/

Yeah, just watched a video essay linking that one, only for the vid to be privated

@@KawaiiStars twoset one?

@@searchmeinyoutube no, Jules dapper But I love twoset, will check their vid on this

I got a serious copyright violation by Bel Air Classiques nearly lost my channel and they killed that link. Marie Stravinsky had to reach out and now the ballet is OK to post on KZfaq. I am still pissed. Interested in hearing me talk about the ballet? I was accused of not existing! HA. kzfaq.info/sun/PLiLVo7MRLxI6A4aOOkAhM7ydDEqdft2MG&si=-9BKaoW6VPzE-xcx

@@KawaiiStars I was pissed. That was my upload and I almost lost my channel.

I finally made videos talking about this ballet (drinking vodka) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqbpZWAsZ22mYU.htmlsi=t01MC7yTJyyzg_fB

Agreed

Well...kit is the best QUALITY. But the best is the Joffrey from 1987: first to perform a ballet lost for 70 years and played only 9 times. They had no photos or videoto by and had to draw from their understanding of the pagan ritual concept and their own anger and pain. Would you watch it and get back at me with your opinion? thisisfatova at gmail

@@fatovamingus but Joffrey's version is on study. In this one the ballet is very good and to that we must add the excellent performance of the orchestra and the masterful direction of Gergiev that brings out all the sonorities of the work. Therefore the combination of Ballet + live orchestra is what enhances it.

I disagree on the point of ballet but man - Gergiev (despite his bs politics) is nothing short of other-worldy in Salzburg 2000 on the Firebird. You have to at least watch the last 7 minutes. A ballet performed without the benefit of having seen it, going by scraps written in the Maestro's margins and the long lost choreography notes from Marie Rambert who was Nijinsky's assistant is going to be organic and authentic. There are only 2 companies to have that distinction: 1913 Ballet Russes and 1987 Joffrey. All who followed did not have to rely on the story/scenario. The Mariinsky did not stage this until 2008 and aside from the footage both Rome and Portugal had visited. And then they got Millicent and Kenneth for 5 months. To say that the Joffrey is lesser because it was on study is upside down. If you didn't know the story and you watched both videos (shitty quality aside) - you would understand it with the Joffrey but not the Mariinsky.

Yes the composition it's called the right of spring but at the time that it was composed and debuted it was in France everything was in Paris doncha know. So it became known as Le Sacre du Printemps (voice texted in a car so there were a lot of mistakes here)

You know when I saw her I felt she was great compared to other Russians but then I saw some others in small clips (check out the channel for a Rio dancer) and I really think the Russian dancers just can't connect emotionally to something so purely Russian. Odd.

She has some nuances and I have seen the interview where she talks about this role and I dn't think she liked it

It's something else when that happens. Want to hear what the story behind this is while I am drinking vodka? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqbpZWAsZ22mYU.htmlsi=t01MC7yTJyyzg_fB

There is audio and its great. The HD is HD. The performance is not as good as the Joffrey who were first. And yeah. Stage is too dark

Ok that was.. I think it was the first ha!!!

Not this particular one but you can figure it out.

@@fatovamingus Thanks

Heyyyyy

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqbpZWAsZ22mYU.htmlsi=t01MC7yTJyyzg_fB This is me finally on video telling the tale and what this ballet really means: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqbpZWAsZ22mYU.htmlsi=t01MC7yTJyyzg_fB

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtl1nrOVsJ6qhqs.htmlsi=6GqBZKFHjxUp9WUs I insist that you watch the same spot with the Joffrey Ballet in 1989 because they had to perform this with no video nothing to go on but their guts and these chicks nailed it

(I just hope someday you get to see the ballet I really do!)

I've spoken to a lot of them and there is actually a part in the archive where you can read what each dance or thought Let me give you the link thisisnotswanlake.com/voices/

Someone just asked the same thing on the Joffrey video!

Yes? Tell me what you think about my new video kzfaq.info/sun/PLiLVo7MRLxI6A4aOOkAhM7ydDEqdft2MG&si=7FMDFehqJ5OC8qpa

I saw they on Tilton's special. Check out the video I made it's probably on the cover of my page and if there's anything I left out that you think should be in let me know

I love that music and I love what's happening on the stage you kind of have to see it live to get it: this five different groups on that stage and each one is doing something different so it's like five soloists as Millicent Hodson would call it. Spring Rounds though has a wonderful end to it ! 11:10 and the piece right before it has a lot of energy 6:40. It's perfect Stravinsky and Nijinsky's choreography was reflecting it. But the Marinsky fails to rise to the occasion. That's kind of why I think it falls apart here but you really should just watch the joffrey or I have a version of Rio de Janeiro from a balcony I'll give you the link.

I completely agree

Dancing on this piece is extremely difficult. The tempo is constantly switching between signatures, accents are all over the place. If they were dancing in perfect coordination I think it would feel less authentic. This is a depicture of an ancestral pagan rite, imperfections make it more real in my eyes.

You're making a joke about the saxophone thing right?

What do you mean like at what part? Very interesting but I don't picture what you're saying

@@fatovamingusprobably a jab at Gergiev and his conducting Let’s see them conduct The Rite of Spring in all its mixed meter glory

@@robertperez2262 I think there's 400 time signatures in the Rite! As to the saxophone I mentioned it because in 1913 people were perplexed that he was using an oboe. They quickly forgot about it once they saw Nijinsky's choreography... narrow-minded French bastards. I can't stand complimenting Gergiev anymore because of how far up Putin's ass he lives... but he conducts Stravinsky beautifully the Firebird more than this though. I still don't get the wiggly hands thing though- do you? I've asked a couple of people! If you come up with anything good let me know