MARIKO NO! =( *Shogun* Episode 9 Reaction

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2 ай бұрын

Mariko arrives in Osaka for the fight of her life as the invading army quickly approaches; Blackthorne and Yabushige scramble to save their ownheads as their options dwindle.
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@gonaye1
@gonaye1 2 ай бұрын
So glad you were able to salvage the recording. Great, GREAT reaction! 🔥💪🏽🔥 46:02 “The drip in this episode…” Also, if you noticed Mariko’s outfit during the “I am not some peasant” scene of this episode 👀 RED ROSES = BLOOD CRIMSON WHITE GARMENT = A BRIGHT SKY Everything that Mariko accomplished in Episode 9 is exactly what “Crimson Sky” was meant to accomplish when it was initially described in Episode 6: “A single, violent rush on Osaka castle that eliminates the council and forms a new government.” I think that Mariko-sama is that “single, violent rush on Osaka castle,” indicating that SHE is the true initiation of “Crimson Sky”… and has been all along. Toranaga’s plan to put “Crimson Sky” into effect depended on Mariko unleashing a quick and lethal attack on Ishido’s authority right in the heart of his stronghold, but to get her (his most powerful Chess piece) into position, he needed Ishido to feel safe (to feel like he had won), and the only way to do that was for Toranaga to completely convince everyone that he had given up fighting (which the death of his son and his closest friend allowed him to do very successfully). This also explains why Toranaga seemed to always keep Mariko-sama by his side, serving a dual purpose (as both a translator and his deadliest weapon hidden in plain sight), why he was upset that Buntaro hit her, why he wanted her to make a final decision about her intentions with Blackthorne, and why he refused to let her end her life too soon (until his plan was ready to be unleashed). “Crimson Sky” is almost like a Shogun version of “R+L=J,” or like Dumbledore hiding Voldemort’s final horcrux in plain sight… carefully preparing it to be sacrificed.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
First off, most thoughtful comment ever, I live for this! Thank you for your kind words and watching! We started this channel to connect with people like us, like you!!! And yeah I was really worried for a while but a really helpful KZfaqr walked me through it! And yes! Her outfit in that scene, honestly every scene in this whole episode. The intentionality of each one for every moment of what would be her Crimson Sky is so incredible, really shows how much they put into this show. And you’re so right she was the true single rush at Osaka especially in her initial speech at the council, and she commanded that room and her actions following it up truly show how powerful and important of a piece of the puzzle she is. Emily yoshida in the podcast talks about toranagas use of manipulation over her but positions it as he is protecting her and it showed in this episode exactly what he had been protecting her for. And I don’t see it as manipulation necessarily because this was her guiding light being able to be a catalyst for the cause her father initiated. Those two references are perfectly made, it really does feel like that, and the way it was so thoughtfully crafted over time to be revealed is so incredible. Really gave me chills reading this and thinking about that. Great commentary, you are obviously very thoughtful when it comes to storytelling! Appreciate you stopping by the channel, see you in the finale!!
@gonaye1
@gonaye1 2 ай бұрын
@@brosnshows thanks for the great discussion, and yes, so excited and looking forward to your reaction to the finale as well!
@seetengtan6746
@seetengtan6746 2 ай бұрын
The Shinobi was sent to kidnap Mariko and hold her unharmed until Toranaga arrives in Osaka to surrender. This was Ishido's way to get out of the unwinnable situation Mariko had put him in. Allow her to walk out, the other hostages will demand to leave with her. Officially detaining her is not an option, nor is killing her openly. Now that Mariko has ensured that the Shinobi kidnap attempt has been foiled (and worst still for Ishido - killing her), her last words condemning and blaming Ishido for her own death will start the coming revolt in Osaka.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn’t immediately assume he was going to kidnap her based on the bloodshed in the castle invasion, ishido is so fucked from this, and I guess Mariko got what she wanted in the end but this certainly is going to cause chaos. I’ve never read the book or know the story at all so I’m very interested in what happens next
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
And then also interested what happens to John after this
@aruse_gff
@aruse_gff 2 ай бұрын
"Gracia Hosokawa," the model for "Mariko." A phrase of resignation 「Flowers are beautiful because they know when to fall. We humans must do the same. Now is the time to fall.」
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@makelvin
@makelvin 2 ай бұрын
Anjin does not mean barbarian; it means Pilot.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I realized that after muffed that one
@overthewebb
@overthewebb 2 ай бұрын
This is all based on true people and true history even if they changed a bit. Episode 10 is gonna see Toraanaga win
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the podcast has done a great job connecting the historical events for me
@shopahauliquewithjacquelin7025
@shopahauliquewithjacquelin7025 2 ай бұрын
Portuguese began trade with Japan in 1543. They were the first Europeans to reach Japan. So they had 57 years in.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense considering how much has been mentioned that they were involved in so far in the show and how rooted Christianity is at the time. Thank you!!
@overthewebb
@overthewebb 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but the Dutch turned up and John aka William Adams as a British person also turned up
@yoshikoasami4039
@yoshikoasami4039 2 ай бұрын
I can’t wait next last story and so as your reaction!!
@timmyinthewell1
@timmyinthewell1 2 ай бұрын
I thought the line in the sand symbolized either Mariko going against the grain ( and maybe he wanting to go against the grain) or he made a crucifix of sorts ..and that she was a Christ like figure. Much like the position of Mariko's body right before the blast, in the crucifix position.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking crucifix but also could be like him sailing across the waves to survive, which is kinda seen in the intro with the sand. Wild concept regardless, going to be a long road for John from here on out
@Diego-is9do
@Diego-is9do 2 ай бұрын
Love shogun
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Such an incredible show
@ranjitbahadur0
@ranjitbahadur0 2 ай бұрын
Mariko isnt dead she hid under the dumpster.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
☠️
@aloneahamo
@aloneahamo 2 ай бұрын
I will send you a Japanese proverb. "Idiots can't be cured unless they die."
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
hahahaha
@khaii13
@khaii13 2 ай бұрын
Each and every reactor had apparently been chasing after that Crimson Herring and end up Crimson Crying when they realize, too late the truth behind the Crimson Lie: Mariko-sama is the true Crimson Sky.
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Bars crimson crazy. Mariko is crimson sky. It was all a lie.
@khaii13
@khaii13 2 ай бұрын
@@brosnshows everything has been setup for this too. Sugiyama is dead; all his retainers would have held a grudge of resentment about that, but can’t do anything because of the hostage situation. Even though publicly, Aketchi Jinsai has a bad reputation, most noble families lowkey revered him (just as Toranaga did) because Kuroda is seen as ruthless and bloodthirsty; therefore Mariko is well known and well respected. Ishido, on the other hand, comes from a peasant line; can’t even recognize a bad poem being recited. And every noble house also wants to move freely (it is an unwritten agreement to exchange hostages, even in medieval Europe, in order to ensure no hostilities would happen), but nobody was willing to call Ishido out, until Mariko-sama. To put it in a modern sense: if Hiromatsu-dono’s death was to sell to Osaka that Toranaga was defeated and safely get Yabushige and Mariko an Audience in Osaka, Mariko-sama’s death was to send Ishido’s approval rating plummeting to the mud.
@overthewebb
@overthewebb 2 ай бұрын
The writing is great as it's not modern shite. If it was modern writing Mariko would have fought her way out of the Castle as a boss girl, laughable. I know it and you know it. Lame shite
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
It is truly incredible writing, glad they took the time to make the effort
@kimmarievan-ever6599
@kimmarievan-ever6599 2 ай бұрын
You will never beat the original one with Richard Chamberlain
@brosnshows
@brosnshows 2 ай бұрын
Whattttt I had no idea that existed lol
@fjtdsk930
@fjtdsk930 2 ай бұрын
猫に癒される男。同胞の本能の様にやって来た。
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