Tier2 to be exact

Yeah, they're humans, everyone makes mistakes.

That's why it's Called Training

@@victortorres1585 SF is tier 2. Recon isn’t any tier level since Recon/ Force Recon isn’t apart of SOCOM, they are a USMC asset even though they are a special operations capable unit. MARSOC Raiders though are tier 2 since they are the Marine Corps SOCOM unit. It all really comes down to mission sets and funding from whatever organization the unit belongs to

@@zander7283 that’s my understanding as well

I saw that too. I’m surprised but not at the same time

@@camsnyder2636 gotta have that 2 foot height over bore🤙

In that case the flag has the Special Forces CRF insignia, which consists in a skull with cross arrows on it

In the middle it has unit patches they can’t show

Its a ridiculous size patch. Also could it not be subdued to suit the uniform. 🙈🙈

@@Bryan_tm_88 ahaha tell that to all the CAG dudes who wore big American flags in combat since Grenada

@@ChangedMountain1 I definitely would tell them. We all use subdued flags when in the Middme East or Africa. Also our SF use the IR flags as well.

How hard was selection for you

@@sigspearthumb8856 - Didn't go to selection. I served in the unit while in a support MOS at the time. We did those drills and more while I was in a SF battalion.

I was about to ask about SFAS then I saw you were support. Still neat tho brotha 💪🏻

@@ChiefMason - The recruiters will give you what you need to prepare for SFAS (I trained up for it early in my career before I got injured prior to attending selection). After the initial briefing, we were given a guide to follow that had laid out the proper workout routine to follow prior to attending. It was very successful with prepping guys for SFAS and it was gospel. Pretty sure that still exists and is given to those that volunteer. You only need a supportive chain of command that will allow you to train up for it.

I’ve always wondered why they don’t use Army infantry more 🤔 I was an 11B, worked with SF a couple of times .. but seemed they preferred to work with Marines more. I think Army and Marine infantry are about the same, grunt.

@@wesleydaniels40 I think a part of it has to do with a good handful of Army SF are prior service with the Marines. Some are grunts, some are from Recon and some had non-combat MOS’s.

@@wesleydaniels40 it's because Marine Recon are Special Operations‐Capable, and are much more well trained than your typical infantry units. Easier and more effective to work with a unit who's got similar training to SF (CQB, MFF, Advanced marksmanship, ISR, combat diving, etc) than a unit who has maybe a quarter of the training which is 99% of infantry units.

@@wesleydaniels40 depends on AO

@@deejay1534 Ricky ticky diva battalions sure love like to act like they are SOF capable. When I a 0311, we had more proven combat experience then recon Marines. As a matter of fact half of their E-5s were boots, the other half of E-5 actually had any combat experience. E-6 in recon were all combat vets, but E-4 and down were booters with shiny jump wings. Only E-5 and higher had dive bubbles. On average you all have more slots open for schools. I'll give you that much. Since you mentioned that 99% of infantry units don't have a quarter of your training, I'll go over what line companies actually have. CQB, we have plenty of guys that were part of Marine Corps Security Force Regiment (FAST companies) that get plenty of CQB, schools like MOUT, CQB and urban assault climbers, even Live Tissue (LTT). FAST guys bring that knowledge to the fleet once they are done. Line companies and guys that come form FAST get sent to infantry specific schools and courses, like assaults climbers, team leader's course, infantry squad leader's course, scout swimmers, coxswain, Marine Corps water survival school, Humvee driver's course, line companies also get slots for LTT like FAST companies, maritime navigator, CRRC mechanic, MCMAP instructor, you can try out for snipers, along with the usual TCCC, CLS work up stuff we need to do. Guys E-5 and lower can do any of this, as long as they aren't turds of course. For E-6 and higher infantrymen, you can get jump school, dive school, you can go to ranger school, you could try out for BUDS, but usually guys that are this far in their career never leave the USMC, in Coronado an instructor there told me that it has only happen once where the infantrymen actually passed BUDS and transferred to the SEALs, but it's kind of dumb since the navy let's anyone try out for BUDS, as per your reenlistment bonus. Recon, you guys do get a lot of training shooting beyond 550m which is is the limit of where infantrymen get a chance to shoot but unless you're a recon sniper, y'all aren't going passed 850m/900yards with a rifle. You get JTAC more often, but in country we had guys got JTAC qualified too. We had guys go to language school too to learn Pashto, as do recon. Infantrymen go on MEUs with recon elements, and if you look up the info on MEUs you would know that MEUs are considered to also be Special Operations‐Capable, since we have a boat company, a trac company and helo company. The difference between Infantrymen and recon is recon get a few more toys, a few more school per Marine on average, and have access to recon snipers, jump and dive school is open to you a lot earlier, especially jump school. But by no fucken means do recon has 99% better training then infantry units. This is the Marine Corps not the army. We get rid of everyone that doesn't deserve to be in the infantry. We're fine just being called grunts and infantry. Unlike recon that likes to think themselves among each other that they are some quasi SOF element. I'll repeat again infantry on MEUs or (FAST)security forces are considered to be Special Operations‐Capable, per Marine Corps doctrine, not my opinion. Just facts. In country we assisted SEALs, PJs, and other SO, SF units, even CIA as they need us. They also kept us safe thanks to there snipers and FOs. Recon also did there part, and got in where we needed eyes and encirclement of the enemy, but you sir are laying it a little thick.

The army should say Hoorah instead of Hooah. It just sounds better as a battle cry

Since the SF guys seem to be CIF, it would make more sense to use the other Green Beret motto - "Nous Defions".

@@Despondent- Nahhhh

Believe the CIF companies were taken down, at least “officially.”

@@Despondent- hooah is used more of a sarcastic response to BS than an actual motivational tool or "battle cry"

Are you talking from experience racing them, or based on footage?

@@TheMendo123 Both

@@johnmitchell8487 You shouldn't have even bothered replying, my guy.

allhm

@@TheMendo123 1

Homie is getting after it

@@cameronstruckmeier3432 Homie needs to watch out with those knees man

Its really not that hard at all

shouldnt be hard for a dude in SF to draw his secondary. its literally their job to know how to work their gear.

@@calebjohn1015 I agree, I didnt want to be too critical, but if they are going to carry the weapon they should be able to draw it better like their life depends on it. Which I am pretty sure if you are going for the pistol, your life depends on it.

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Army always teaching De Oppesse Liber. Ps. I like the hustle of that Latina marine, doing it. Army Infantryman out.

I mean marines... navy..... same thing

@@wade6523 I’m pretty sure your the only one who thinks that way.

Hahahahahahaha you have no idea. Marines teach Navy

Lmao these “kids” would outperform and outgun any spetznas unit. Spetznas are struggling against Ukranian special forces that were trained by men in videos like these right now 🤷🏽‍♂️

They looked more like regular marines shooting as in they were sloppy.

That’s what the training was for…

I feel like that would be hard to do considering there is the 75th RRC (Regimental Reconnaissance Company), Airforce Special Reconnaissance, and Tier 1 units like Delta or Devgru probably have a whole separate squadron for dedicated to Reconnaissance and Intelligence. All already apart of USSOCOM.

@@TheGeminiSwag RRC is apart of tier 1

That would defeat the purpose of the current arrangement. The initial resistance to the Marines joining SOCOM back in the 1980s was the (justified) idea that they would effectively "lose" their sole deep reconnaissance asset to another command entity. History has vindicated them in that regard IMO. Force and Divisional Recon assets are similar, but in theory carry out different mission sets. Force Recon has a wider mission profile (GOPLAT, amphibious raids, VBSS, plus general direct action stuff) and in the traditional sense is often seen as better prepared to carry out deep reconnaissance than Divisional Recon personnel. The idea is that Force Recon carries out all of these tasks and is answerable only to the MEF and the Commandant. And, with all due respect, Force Recon would not bring much to SOCOM or JSOC which already has no shortage of units that are well-equipped to conduct special/deep reconnaissance and are subject matter experts in the field. As previously mentioned, the Regimental Reconnaissance Company excels in this role. ACE (aka CAG/Delta Force) has its own Recce/Sniper while DEVGRU (aka SEAL Team Six) likewise has recce/sniper elements who are often conglomerated into a separate entity known as "Black Squadron" tasked with intelligence-gathering ahead of operations by the rest of the unit. More recently, the Air Force has restructured its Special Operations Weather Teams into the "Special Reconnaissance" career field which will be fully integrated amongst existing AFSOC/Special Tactics Battlefield Airmen personnel and all initial reports about it are incredibly promising.

@@shammy3135 Are they? And do they qualify as an SMU? I've heard conflicting reports about this, just as with the Activity. I know that post-2007 transformation from RRD to RRC they became a de facto JSOC asset. I just don't know where the delineating line is between a unit is that is often tasked to JSOC to support the operations of Tier One SMUs... and a unit that is a Tier One SMU unto itself.

@@SaftonYT I believe they’re considered tier 1 due to 75RR commonly supporting tier 1 elements. I’m not a member of any SOFs so don’t quote me on that though.

They’ll kill it…

A large majority of Green Berets are prior infantry and/or rangers (rangers to us are like your Paratroopers) They can shoot exceptionally well, in adverse conditions, and with a lot of different weapon platforms (especially the Weapons Sergeants) Can’t speak from experience with marine recon, but I worked Group Support and can speak from experience that some of them are fucking excellent shooters. But it’s all case by case basis. End of the day, a green beret would smoke any infantry man any day of the week.

100% mate hahaha

They would clearly crush it

I mean this is just a small shooting range in Okinawa. There are huge places like ft Polk, irwin, 29 palms, ft benning and Bragg that are most like the ones you’re talking about

Other units do

It's because nowadays, operators and soldiers prefer to use the C-clamp grip which makes foregrips redundant.

Force Recon and MARSOC are two different entities…

Wrong. Try again.

That shit happens to the best of us, normally for me it’s forgetting to take my weapon off safe 😂

Right before I got out of the Marines in 2018 they started to do more barricade shoots even for normal 0311's in Line companies

@Freddy Ruger yeh I made the comment before watching. I think these are the recon reservist Marines. I’m hoping so anyway.

@Freddy Ruger eesh. Well hey teaching what not to do is important, sometimes. Like tying your shoes…yeh this is no good.

Uhhh we are free 🙂

@@tateblalock7908 yeah ok. Whatever you say must be the truth.

Force Recon - M4s SF - M4 URGI / "SOPMOD 3"

The Green Berets were mostly in the beginning. Anyone not wearing MARPAT here is a Green Beret.

You can! join the Army, 18X contract.

@@Ace2021 hahaha. i'm afraid i'm too old for even the Army to take me at this point brother.

Run that one back chief

It doesn’t matter, it’s not free floated so it’s the same pressure on the barrel. Doesn’t matter if you use the rail or barrel on the barricade. Old wive’s tale

@@Loper77 yeah, the targets arent that far. They're not throwing all of their weight on the rifle

yeah m9 has been gone for a while

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it has writing or some sort of logo on it, that doesn't need to be identified.

Another commenter said it has their unit number on it.

What does this have anything to do with the failed russian invasion of Ukraine

This stuff is done by civilians everywhere, this is no secret lol.

yeah this isn't 04 anymore. This is better

I’m sure it’s a safety issue, particularly on the range where the only place you want an accidental discharge to go is into the ground.

Shooting is not what sets these guys apart.

@@fatdan172501 I hope so.

@@sakajungle with that said, I’d bet you couldn’t produce anything better lol.

If you pay attention to the uniform patterns you’ll notice that the SF dudes are running the range/instructing and not doing the shooting lol

Either way it’s a little concerning