Mark E Smith on music, politics and refugees

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8 жыл бұрын

They were the godfather of indie music John Peel's favourite band. "The Fall." he said, "Always different, Always the same." The 59-year-old front man Mark E Smith still crafts the group around his poetry.

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@getheroutofthetruck 6 жыл бұрын

RIP Mark. Never sold out. Stayed true till the end SMILE!

@bluebellbeatnik4945 Жыл бұрын

yeh but he was an alcoholic who destroyed all of his relationships. Staying true isn't good for everyone around you nor yourself sometimes.

@PreservationEnthusiast Жыл бұрын

Rubbish music, rubbish lyrics. Totally pissed up idiot bloke, not worthy of anyone's attention.

@AndrewAHayes Ай бұрын

Only because no one was interested in buying it!

@corduroykumquat 6 жыл бұрын

"Why did you want to be in a group?" "I didnt" *picks nose*

@styxcreek 6 жыл бұрын

40 years as frontman of the best group ever and he still seems proudest of being a shipping clerk in his youth

@Faithnomore227 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Two feet firmly on the ground. I imagine he learnt a lot at that time, and iit served him well for the rest of his days. He knew he wanted more. He got it. He would have gone back to "proper" work, if he'd decided to. He gave no fucks in all the right ways. Still think we'd have clashed. Good job I'm a no talent. Our paths never crossed. Incredible artist. Difficult Sod. x

@bluebellbeatnik4945 Жыл бұрын

Steady job.

@nez9751 10 ай бұрын

That’s why he was one of the greats ❤

@skollybob 2 ай бұрын

Best group ever??? He was utterly talentless

@styxcreek 2 ай бұрын

@@skollybob stick to Coldplay then

@mralt604 6 жыл бұрын

A far more complex individual than the comments before tend to show. Mark E. Smith was not a nice man, this much is true. However, he was honest - brutally, so. His lyrical content was profound on many, perhaps most, occasions and he was, for better and worse, a true rebel - a true punk. He was a man addled by alcohol and 'demons' yet still managed to spew out more intriguing prose at his worst than most do at their best. You could call the man a national treasure and I'm sure he would agree, through a warped smile and sense of hilarity; subversion and a messy kinship to the past. A man of his time(s) that met his end on his own terms. Take that as you will. Personally, selfishly, I'll take some inspiration.

@dami5663 Ай бұрын

My favourite comment on the whole KZfaq

@tomwilko7841 8 жыл бұрын

Ah, sad to see what decades of drink and drugs and women and rock and roll can do to a once bright and intuitive mind, Krishnan has lost it big time, Mark's still killing it though

@garyedgar9778 8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Wilko - 10/10 mate :)

@Musicsification 8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Wilko Beautiful!

@rexmundi2237 8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Wilko drink, drugs, women and rock'n'roll sad? you must be kidding. Reaching 100 with unfulfilled dreams after a life of complete tedium and mediocrity is SAD. Dying in your twenties is SAD, not surviving decades of excess well into middle-age and beyond.

@tomwilko7841 8 жыл бұрын

Rex Mundi you're preaching to the converted rex, not sure you fully got my comment. it was a silly joke taking the mick out of the interviewer. I truly believe the 'road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom' always have, one of the reasons i'm interested in Mark E Smith, though not the main reason

@insideahorse 8 жыл бұрын

+Rex Mundi there's a point been missed dear lad, stop, back up...

@georgistarkov717 4 жыл бұрын

May God bless this man for all eternity.

@Musicsification 8 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how he says "...in my lunchtime-ah" like he's singing it!

@dreamangus1505 6 жыл бұрын

We lost an original and unique talent today - thank you Mark for all the quirky songs

@dj-um7el Жыл бұрын

I've been into The Fall recently and they've been great! Rest in peace genius!

@kingshearer2 8 жыл бұрын

Contrary to alot of comments on here I understood everything he said.

@turloyd 6 жыл бұрын

So did i.....The 10 bottles of Peroni Helped!

@theaylesburycyclist8756 3 жыл бұрын

Because you're English? By the way it's 'a lot' not 'alot'. You're welcome 😉

@highcompressionhead7940 10 ай бұрын

I bet he didn't expect that honest answer about refugees! Mark E Smith THE greatest musician ever.

@revol148 8 жыл бұрын

"There are two sorts of people - those who have met Mark E Smith and those who like Mark E Smith" - Billy Bragg

@pinkcampion 8 жыл бұрын

+revol148 Billy Bragg is a liberal leftie who only believes in one thing: political correctness (moral cowardice and a tool of neo-fascism). Who wants to listen to Bragg caterwailing the labour party manifesto?

@strumbolli 8 жыл бұрын

+pinkcampion Eat shite

@revol148 8 жыл бұрын

+pinkcampion I agree with the first part of your comment although Bragg wrote some great songs in the mid 1980's if that is much of a defence for the fact that for the past 2 decades he's turned into a national treasure / Jeremy Corbyn supporting bore.I like the quote as I reckon it's kind of what I believe Mark E Smith is like in the flesh.

@cherichub 8 жыл бұрын

+revol148 I am the first type.

@TheGodParticle 8 жыл бұрын

+Survive the Jive i never got the billy brag quest, he was always singing about northerners having a hard time, and then he got fat, too many Mars bars coated in batter. A Northern delicacy I've heard.

@theknowerandtheknown 3 жыл бұрын

He's spot on about the refugees

@kr3w4life45 2 жыл бұрын

No he is not :D

@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 2 жыл бұрын

@@kr3w4life45 he is

@speedking7224 Жыл бұрын

Don't meddle in their affairs, they won't come to you

@lucaseck958 2 ай бұрын

The fact that u use the term refugee answers the question of why they don’t stay with their families like mark ponders lad

@user-kl4bh4lq6r 2 ай бұрын

He was right about immigration👍 A Great song writer was Mark E Smith RIP🇬🇧✊🥃

@beamzappa6266 7 жыл бұрын

"Two Million man can beat any army" Mark E Smith knows the score.

@StratsRUs 2 жыл бұрын

He'd smell your Nazi-ness from a mile off.

@gromitpesley 2 жыл бұрын

@@StratsRUs Excuse me ? He just quoted Mark ..

@sjewitt22 2 жыл бұрын

It was a stupid comment, you need to arm and army etc.

@raycroal Жыл бұрын

he said 2 million fellas could be any effin army,, as in he thinks they could be getting ready to attack

@T800System 8 жыл бұрын

You will never pin down Mark E Smith on his politics. My theory is he just enjoys pissing off anyone with an opinion.

@stagelarissa 7 жыл бұрын

otherwise i'd just call him an old fart who once sung '' who makes the nazis''' ...

@slowandcrystal 7 жыл бұрын

He did.. never forget that.

@daviedovey 6 жыл бұрын

I think he's old fashioned right wing Labour

@8bitDude0 5 жыл бұрын

Wasn't he in the Socialist Party?

@jesseemullen 3 жыл бұрын

I try to do the same.

@guydwelly 4 жыл бұрын

God how we miss him. Such talent for a humble shipping clerk. His music and lyrics will live on forever

@dermotkelly456 6 жыл бұрын

Farewell Mark E Smith. Thanks for your music 🙏

@grayso65 6 жыл бұрын

RIP my friend... Music will never be the same.

@billymcmonagle949 5 жыл бұрын

Loved the man, always did it his way, uncompromising and truthful, a solid citizen of art. should have been a mega star , miss his edge.

@ThePunter29 4 жыл бұрын

I like the Fall and Mark E Smith but I cannot imagine how in any way possible it that he could be a mega star.

@jayrox40 6 жыл бұрын

Mark E Smith spot on.

@brianlarkin5246 3 жыл бұрын

Big respect from the Republic of Ireland thank you Mark 🇮🇪

@johnmorrison2604 23 күн бұрын

Ireland . ..all 32 county's...🇨🇮4 .celtic gaelic provinces.....☘️ munster leinster ulster connaught and the 7. 2 million on the island ...of Ireland.......love mark

@johnmorrison2604 23 күн бұрын

Scotland the only colony that voted to stay one

@cherichub 8 жыл бұрын

Genius, I wish we had more artists like him today. It's all the wrong way around.

@PK-re3lu 3 жыл бұрын

The money men are destroying EVERYTHING.

@contradictator7482 2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of artists but without a lable and without social media they'll never reach the masses

@christianeroubert5454 Жыл бұрын

le rock et bon, le punk, aussi, le blues, idem, le bissness rock NoN.! 🧐l'argent est bon, l'amour de l'argent,lui ! :pourri tout.

@gailal 8 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Mark smiling.

@pardeepparkash398 6 жыл бұрын

RIP Mark E Smith , great music great poet ,farewell.....

@petre.w.487 8 жыл бұрын

Good to see Mark can still be a contrary git !.....we need more like him !!...

@nigelwatson2750 6 ай бұрын

I would have loved to hear Mark E smith's take on conjob-19 🤣

@JohnDoe-jn9ze 8 жыл бұрын

I can't understand the concern about if a musician lines up with your worldview, lifestyle or political opinion.... Then again I'm American and we have a major 'news' network and political party 10x more inflammatory than anything said here. This man has been better than Santa Claus at delivering every year for four decades, that's what matters to me.

@richardmurray2068 3 жыл бұрын

We live in a social media world where people just create echo chambers and never hear anything other than their own narrow perspectives of the world, even sadder when so many of those perspectives are no more than force fed beliefs from the left/right paradigm. If you sit back long enough these people always make hypocrites of themselves somewhere down the line

@IndependentGeorge76 8 жыл бұрын

Stephen Hawking's let himself go...

@revol148 8 жыл бұрын

+IndependentGeorge76 Uncanny - give it a few more years and he will be a dead ringer for him!

@robbieh2159 8 жыл бұрын

+james atkinson hawking

@ClueSign 8 жыл бұрын

+IndependentGeorge76 Brilliant, love it.

@weavehole 8 жыл бұрын

Damn you for beating me to this joke this way!

@gordie225 8 жыл бұрын

+IndependentGeorge76 That's the first thing I thought, too... an ugly Stephen Hawking!

@mikeplow1961 8 жыл бұрын

46 seconds before he mentioned working on the docks. Never fails.

@TrapperMilan 8 жыл бұрын

Hmm, might be due to the fact that journalists ask famous people about their lives, and the docks were part of his life.

@noeljohnson868 6 жыл бұрын

Yep, gotta get those credentials established, early on in case people think you're just another untouchable caricature media celebrity with your cogent thoughts dulled by years of abuse...

@sonanderson6351 3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, perfect. I’ve been watching Mark E clips all day, and yep, every time

@wattage2007 8 жыл бұрын

That's some refreshing perspectives from Mr Smith. I wasn't expecting that.

@morganrieder6281 8 жыл бұрын

He's a brilliant fuck-up, and at the same time a very 'wise old man.' I'll always love him.

@davout71 3 жыл бұрын

Wow I love his answer on the so called refugees. Amazed the media left the comment in.

@hairyski 6 жыл бұрын

such an enigmatic legend. He will be missed. RIP

@therealrodhull1 2 жыл бұрын

I met him in a pub in Devon one afternoon. He was due to play a gig nearby, and he was drinking a pint at the bar - I recognised him, and when I went to the bar to buy a drink, I said hello and I mentioned he was in the fall and playing nearby - but he just grunted something and seemingly didnt want to speak, so I said nothing more and waited in silence for my drink to be served and left the bar to sit down... I then realised all the stories were true of him being a bit grumpy! ;)

@chelseapoet3664 Жыл бұрын

So you told Mark E Smith he was in The Fall and expected a positive response. Mmmm hmmnm

@therealrodhull1 Жыл бұрын

@@chelseapoet3664 No 😆I asked him if he was going to be playing at a certain nearby venue, given that he was near it having a drink.

@seldomseenkidjonathandoher7361 Жыл бұрын

Haha I've heard this is standard

@paulsimpson8791 Жыл бұрын

I think he knew which band he was in pal

@mysecretworld6603 Жыл бұрын

@@therealrodhull1 i think not buying him a drink before you started to chat was where you lost him, it could have all been so different

@uploaderofmonkeybath.mp4761 Жыл бұрын

im so glad they did this interview. its so brilliant

@mylesgeronimo4976 8 жыл бұрын

These guys were amongst the loudest guys i've ever seen. They had two bassists, too, as i recall. Good to see he's still putting it out there.

@GuillermoAlonsoSotoGomez 4 жыл бұрын

Tremenda banda. Siempre me ha gustado la singular manera de cantar de Mark, entre elegante y ordinario

@andrewkilbride971 Жыл бұрын

I'll come back later and watch it again when I've had 10 pints, it'll feel like a more level playing field

@northernsoul3485 2 жыл бұрын

Mark E Smith, they don’t make em like that any more. Legend.

@1jckinnick 8 жыл бұрын

I thought Mark E Smith was supposed to be a difficult and cranky old guy, he seems pretty pleasant.

@NigelCharlesworth 5 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that there's more bottles of drink and a whiskey on the table between edits.

@PaulSmith-pn8hi Жыл бұрын

Mark E Smith , a total legend.

@gdessario5014 Жыл бұрын

Heard him and The Fall on university radio here in Windsor, Ontario Canada in the late 80's. Loved it... Glad I found out about them😮

@GNeuman 3 ай бұрын

Never, ever boring. RIP, Mark. ❤

@nicolaskottis5245 6 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. Mark E Smith. Great Musician !

@davis7099 7 жыл бұрын

Many comments on this thread misunderstand him. He was a miserabalist, anti fashion, anti sheep mentality, working class git always and he always said, whether it pleased left wing cowards or right wing bigots what he thought. There is no left and right in honest social commentary or great art. We are all guilty of inconsistent bollocks. He was brought up working class. Pen and paper. Smith's off kelter remark about refugees was spot on. Feeling uncomfortable? Brilliant.

@sarahl3721 6 жыл бұрын

It's not like there are two sides in the Syrian war though, is it? You cannot compare that situation to the British army fighting Nazism...can you? Thank god we've never had to rely on Mark E Smith to fight any wars for us if he's going to get all righteous on us. If you're going to make great swooping generalizations about war, maybe he should have fought in Falklands!

@davis7099 6 жыл бұрын

I really wish I had the faintest idea what you are talking about. Mark E Smith is a kitchen sink school commentator/poet, someone who has sharp insights into the human condition. His comments on politics and society are his alone.Take it or leave it.

@slimedog 6 жыл бұрын

David B. is spot on about Mark E. Smith- Mark, was obviously a drunk poet, a true artist and maybe not a politically correct fellow- but his art was great, pay attention to that not the man.

@rickbacklane2982 6 жыл бұрын

His wife/widow is an immigrant!

@Hallkardia 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 'economic migrants', trying to escape from war to get something for their families. Why are there many men? Well, do you know what can happen to a woman on such a dangerous route? I wouldn't send my daughter nor would you.

@davidrobinson2776 3 жыл бұрын

Talk about thinking outside the box. Mark’s words will ring in our ears as we stand clapping like fools on our doorsteps for people and causes that have been discussed ti abstraction by politicians and Instagram influencers.

@sentinela8775 4 жыл бұрын

Part of my adolescence was spent listening to The Fall.

@globalparadise6979 6 жыл бұрын

The futures always uncertain and the end always near...RIP M.E.S

@mrichards2788 5 жыл бұрын

Mark talks lots of sense. RIP.

@matthieufernandez6871 8 жыл бұрын

This is the most lucid I've ever seen him... and I still can't fucking understand a word he says.

@meerkattas 7 жыл бұрын

2:48 is so perfect.

@Spectrescup 3 жыл бұрын

So you've never seen him interviewed in the 20thC?

@mikeoleary1723 Ай бұрын

Watch June 1996 interview. It followed this one.

@MartsTravel 8 ай бұрын

He is spot on about refugees, channel 4 are blind to it, one day they will wake up.

@laszlozoltan5021 8 жыл бұрын

the more interesting and insidious thing about The Fall, is an idle moment can cause a lyric or refrain to catch on the brain- and will stay for any number of days.

@Sveinbeard 8 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Mark is doing an impression of Frank Sidebottom

@Dekompozycja 5 жыл бұрын

Kochałem cię i nie wierzyłem, że odejdziesz tak szybko. Ogromna strata naszego idola. Jedyny nie skurwiony anarchista. Nie skurwimy The Fall!

@nelsonmanson7633 2 жыл бұрын

Mark E Smith, su legado es enorme

@dj-um7el Жыл бұрын

Facts

@robalston590 8 жыл бұрын

A frigging legend.. an artist and national treasure..

@michael.miller7011 5 жыл бұрын

In loving memory of mark e Smith aged 60 years old the man who said swear words

@beefheart1410 6 жыл бұрын

R.I.P Mark. E. Smith. The Bingo Master breaks out!

@mickmouse3513 5 жыл бұрын

A true Brit, RIP Mark E Smith.

@Neil-dl3ke Жыл бұрын

Great interview. One of the best channel 4 have ever done Mark E. Was spot on about immigration. Its not immigration its a cultural invasion

@tonitonimartino1118 8 жыл бұрын

I/We love this man !

@avenidadeloscorrales Ай бұрын

Me interesa este Artista y lo que significa en la cultura Britanica, me encanta la música de The Fall un estilo único y diferente el sonido de Manchester de los 70s 80s , Cantantes posteriores se inspiraron en el estilo de Mark E Smith. , saludos desde Argentina

@DondeArandas 6 жыл бұрын

RIP MARK!A TRUE ORIGINALWILL BE MISSED

@averilleX 8 жыл бұрын

He's right about big numbers of young Syrian men coming here but expecting us to fight their battles back home - Syrian women in camps over there been complaining same here on KZfaq for a year or more.

@sarahl3721 6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure complaining on youtube is of high priority in a refugee camp

@daviedovey 5 жыл бұрын

yeah, and all that nice old President Assad wants is to gather his strayed lambs to his bosom with loving arms

@argh2945 4 жыл бұрын

Charles Lee Ray Yep, not our civil war to fight. Those young men fleeing need to go back and fight for the existence and future of their own country.

@ericjensen9091 4 жыл бұрын

@@argh2945 Israel's got their hands in it, And Britain helped create that monster(Israel).

@argh2945 4 жыл бұрын

@@ericjensen9091 Britian's relationship to Israel is fairly complicated tbf. Initially the British government was very much against the creation of the state of Israel going as far as to fund the Arabs, but later on they changed tack. In any case those aren't our wars to fight anymore. And by importing millions of people here who have a personal stake in the fight all we've done is imported the conflicts here.

@halcyondays1andy 6 жыл бұрын

Big loss. Rest in peace Mark

@written12 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Reimer Bard. There was no way the word 'Argentina' was going to make it from Mark's mouth to my ear.

@Hastur876 7 жыл бұрын

He has a point. 2 million young men from Syria - where's the women and children? Did they leave them there?

@strifeknot 7 жыл бұрын

He's wrong. Footage of refugee camps shows plenty of women and children suffering alongside the men.

@strifeknot 7 жыл бұрын

Then you should hide under your bed until it's safe to come out. I'll let you know when all the scary men are gone.

@nellsun2521 6 жыл бұрын

Most of the migrants are actually being brought over from North Africa and the middle east - only a very small percentage are actually from Syria.

@blackguardian76th 5 жыл бұрын

Like most old people, he ended up believing what he read in the papers. He was a pretty vacuous guy, I don't think he had a strong belief in anything other than who was buying the next drink as long as it wasn't him.

@niitsukid 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@everlast2658 8 жыл бұрын

NOTHING LIKE TRUTH IN A CLIMATE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

@suilvenmountain2395 8 жыл бұрын

Hear him about Syrians. A new meaning to 'In vino veritas'

@philbutcher6959 Жыл бұрын

Based Mark E Smith. The only way a remark like that on refugees gets through.

@seancrapola 7 ай бұрын

A lot of people ask that question, Mark. They're just never allowed on TV in Europe or the US.

@laszlozoltan5021 8 жыл бұрын

I'm not entirely sure what he said

@jon62punk 8 жыл бұрын

+Laszlo Zoltan Something like "shhhhhh errrrrrr mmmddd fuck mmmmmmkk llllllshhhhhhtick "

@WDH59510 8 жыл бұрын

+Jon Bolton You mean "shhhhhh errrrrrr mmmddd fuck mmmmmmkk llllllshhhhhhtick-ah". :-)

@laszlozoltan5021 8 жыл бұрын

too bad- anyone got an extra grandma willing to join his band and play the bongos ?

@zetetick395 8 жыл бұрын

+Laszlo Zoltan I'd dress up *as* my Grandma to have a chance of bein' in The Fall!

@laszlozoltan5021 8 жыл бұрын

+Zetetik - me too, but I can't play the bongos- maybe a colander, but bongos, sadly, no.

@nuttah21 8 жыл бұрын

haha Mark, Legend. True to himself to the end

@user-yk8ro9rf4r 3 жыл бұрын

I love Mark EDWARD Smith's Songs.R eal R.I.P from TueM..

@rangers7259 8 жыл бұрын

The Man is a fucking legend and songwriting genius......

@denisduff4194 6 жыл бұрын

Manchester will always be true it's icons

@jatkinson3938 8 жыл бұрын

wise words, from a wise man

@periurban 8 жыл бұрын

A salutary warning for us all.

@fraudulenthippo113 6 жыл бұрын

RIP Marke Smith luv you

@paradigmatican1981 6 жыл бұрын

Rest in peace Mark E.

@mattmacneil3424 7 жыл бұрын

hey he's actually going along with the interview

@zetetick395 8 жыл бұрын

So good to see Mark in fine spirits (pun as intended as you want it to be) in recent interviews........His new missus must be doing him some good!

@MoizAudio 6 жыл бұрын

what a remarkable man...RIP

@RTR1879 6 жыл бұрын

Rest in peace, Mark

@davidstefanovic8610 7 жыл бұрын

I love him

@latitudepost Жыл бұрын

I can't believe the interviewer did not once ask him about A Brief History Of Time.

@charlietwotimes 11 ай бұрын

Been in love with the Fall since Putta Block, Grotesque (After the Gramme) & Leave the Capitol. The NWRA was a tour de force of Fall intensity.

@TheOrganist007 8 жыл бұрын

He is unique

@rufuspage6210 6 жыл бұрын

RIP. I'm gutted! :(

@Schizopantheist 2 жыл бұрын

I never thought M.E. Smith would start to remind me of my dad, but in this interview he slightly does

@paulfox3514 6 жыл бұрын

RESPECT!!! What a dude.

@zigzagwandra 6 жыл бұрын

RIP Wise Ol' Man

@aaronfreeman6352 8 жыл бұрын

this shit is hilarious. love you mark.

@gx2music 4 жыл бұрын

An absolute legend.

@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 4 жыл бұрын

I never got to see The Fall live and would’ve loved to have seen them, but the clips of MES fronting a band of youngsters kinda reminds me of Eric Burdon fronting the “New Animals”, which amounted to EB plus 3 way-younger guys with mullets playing the hits lol