Marked for Death is insane! NOTE: I changed the tier 1 mod for the shotgun after the first clip for better results.
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@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
Hoo boy. It is a bit hard to keep up with your guy's comments. A lot of your arguments are pretty good. Two complaints seem to be arising here. 1#: People are saying that solo scaling is cheap and makes the enemy health way lower. I don't know about you guys, but half of all my games are solo. To me solo is the default and multiplayer is the exception. It feels wrong to do my test on 4 player scaling only to do a solo mission and the results be way different. Scaling to 4 players also affects different groups of enemies differently, so for things like praetorians and bulks it is x1.25 health, but for bosses like dreadnoughts and bet-c it is x2.267 health. With a build like this that is heavily breakpoint focused that can sometimes make it so that you need to shoot it a bit more to finish it off. That leads me into point. #2: People are saying that cryo is (again) making it stupidly easy to kill the enemies. My knee jerk response is to say that it is the point of cryo, but I think you guys are more pointing out that cryo isn't always ideal for every enemy or situation, as that would make it harder to kill other enemies. I built this build to show off what crazy damage marked for death can do, I know it isn't viable, but I thought it would be fun to post. I use a slightly different build that uses ifgs and shaped shells with phosphorus shells that is a lot more versatile. I made a video showing it off here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9FjZdOetdKviqs.htmlsi=PK9ozEx1Zic-3LZI
@beaniegaming6924 күн бұрын
most people seem to do multiplayer
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@beaniegaming69 It seems so. I'm a bit of an outlier I guess.
@rudrod95_4123 күн бұрын
People when you show how much damage a damage build can do for funsies: 😡 I at least liked the build and understood the point! Ty
@zaglezigawa8415Күн бұрын
Have you tried this with embedded detonators? id argue shits even more op than jumbo shells. also regarding multiplayer, the mark for death effects ALL damage received so its invaluable in elimination, it is crazy how well this works with a gunner or a full team focusing on one boss
@tysoncook5152Күн бұрын
@@zaglezigawa8415 I have. The results weren't as good as I hoped. It definitely does really good damage, but doesn't really meet any good breakpoints. Plus if you take this you are significantly gimping your ability to deal with swarmers.
@BluClair26 күн бұрын
I was half expecting you to actually kill the ebonite with the shotgun
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
@@BluClair lol
@carljohan926522 күн бұрын
Ebonites are coded to completely ignore any damage that isn't melee. zero multiplied by a thousand is still zero.
@Am_Cookie243611 күн бұрын
@@carljohan9265itsa' joke
@BlackoutBlakeOfficialYT28 күн бұрын
Not even the ebonite glyphids are safe from this overclock lol
@spiderpig420Ай бұрын
Ok maybe I gotta give marked for death a try lol
@KatozukiАй бұрын
I thought this overclock only worked for your teammates, which made me think it was useless for solo, but this is insane.
@user-xt4pt2vd2e28 күн бұрын
But this work ON your teammates too)
@bigbird_354327 күн бұрын
Finally a defense against driller c4?
@michaelkolano868626 күн бұрын
a very important thing to know about this in solo, is that it also *marks* the enemy too, so bosco will target it
@dorianrobinette971226 күн бұрын
Honestly quite like this overclock. Even for general use. Like yeah maybe its not the best outside of dreadnough missions, but its really fun to mark any big threat thats unexpected and just deleting it.
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
It can be pretty good for general missions as well, you just have to tailor it for them. If you take ifgs with 11313 shaped shells boomstick it covers all your bases. You can use chokepoints with ifgs and m1k blowthrough rounds for crowd clearing, and shaped shells boomstick with phosphorus shells is great for getting rid of quite a few things, or at least dealing massive damage to them. Shaped shells itself is really good for taking care of mactera too, which is extra useful given you lose out on charge shot damage.
@dorianrobinette971226 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 interesting stuff. I'll have to reference this next time I look through my builds. I like using the double barrel overclock on my boomstick for an "Oh shit" hoard clear with marked for death m1k, but I also don't have to worry too much since I usually play with my bud who's a driller man. He usually has the hoard clear handled while he can melt down big targets. It's a lot of fun.
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
@@dorianrobinette9712 Yeah I love double barrel and I use it in my builds. It is AMAZING for crowd clearing, I just have jumbo shells on here to max out on damage.
@dorianrobinette971226 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 I really need to get more overclocks for my scout so I can try out more builds and what not. I tried going for so many engie oc's because I want fat boy, my scout barely has any. But at least I got a really good one with double barrel. So much damn fun.
@pablotf290126 күн бұрын
Now this is something I must try
@user-ug3df8bb6c25 күн бұрын
Hazard 5, BUT for one player. It's not as amazing in numbers, as it looks
@tysoncook515225 күн бұрын
@@user-ug3df8bb6c The health is still pretty high, and a lot of people play solo. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftiSfLmL0s6tYmg.htmlsi=w-M7B39kKcNLxAA5 here is a video where I’m working on testing on higher difficulties. More videos will be out soon.
@bigpapapurple24 күн бұрын
Also freezing it skewed the results.
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@bigpapapurple How did freezing skew the results? Freezing was the whole point of this test. I don't run this myself because there is better options out there, but I just did this too show what was possible.
@bigpapapurple24 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 came here interested to see the damage alone on marked for death as it’s good information to know but then saw you froze it. making you do more damage then the already marked for death damage increase. That’s like freezing a enemy then hitting it with super cooling chamber and saying. “Guys super cooling did most of the work.” anything will do insane damage when frozen. A better title would be marked for death with frozen effect is insane. Which I’m not doubting it isn’t as your applying 2 damage increase effect. Which will delete anything. And yes I know I copied this but you replied twice so I didn’t feel like changing it up. Not here to argue but was genuine as I was interested to see the marked for death damage increase alone being tested. That’s why I said now test it without freezing the enemy. Or don’t I can’t tell you what to do.
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@bigpapapurple I think I will do a follow up video just for you then, because I understand where you are coming from. I have an slightly different build that shows can get pretty good marked for death damage without cryo.
@ChickenShred11 күн бұрын
That is a railcoin-level combo lol
@krypt1ccc73925 күн бұрын
What do you think is better: Trifork volley or jumbo shells for this combo? Jumbo shells is more versitile and useful on not just elimination missions but trifork volley can take taser bolts for eliminations, which are quite useful.
@tysoncook515225 күн бұрын
Jumbo shells for sure. You can get a bit more damage out of trifork volley with taser bolts, but you lose out on a LOT of versatility.
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbSUgdSVzuDMhac.html Here is a video where I show that I test on haz 5
@jpzarde873425 күн бұрын
…shit I gotta try this now
@solaireofastora617325 күн бұрын
Any other secondary worth using with this OC?
@tysoncook515225 күн бұрын
Yes, gas recycling and trifork volley. Gas recycing can reach some insane dps, but the mag size is comparable to jumbo shells. Trifork volley combined with taser bolts for extra damage can have better burst damage, but you are sacrificing a lot of flexibility by taking it.
@helohel591525 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 what about explosive reload zhukovs? Pump charges in, mark for death and then detonate?
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@helohel5915 Yeah! It buffs the embedded detonators too! I don’t typically bring embedded detonators with the m1k because it makes it harder to fight off small enemies though. If you are going to take embedded detonators I don’t recommend taking cryo, as embedded detonators don’t get much out of frozen enemies because of the low direct damage. Ifgs might be a good choice if you want to crank up the damage further, but it might not be the best for covering you butt.
@Ivaylodr524 күн бұрын
Oh, wow, good to know. I thought it worked only for the teammates! Also, the defaut for the game is multiplayer, thats the whole point, to chill with other people.
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
I find it interesting how people just assume that only other people can get the bonus. Also I know that people tend to play multiplayer more often then me. I do feel like an outlier in a way.
@Ivaylodr523 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 While the game is designed to be a multiplayer, you're definitely NOT an outlier. Most of the people i know (who play DRG) do it solo, unless we're all free so we can party together. And that's understandable considering that nowadays most public room are either salty russians or people who don't give a shit about their teammates (even tho they made their run public) Also, most people assume the effect is only for teammates because the description is poorly written
@tysoncook515223 күн бұрын
@@Ivaylodr5 Interesting. Going to have to read the description. I didn’t think it was poorly written.
@Gundolf30018 күн бұрын
What mod do you use for the test range?
@tysoncook515218 күн бұрын
Sandbox Utilities
@MINICUBANT17 күн бұрын
The cryo on Bet-C is a mistake or am i missing something ?
@tysoncook515216 күн бұрын
@@MINICUBANT Why would it be a mistake? I froze it to get the 3x bonus. For some reason the frozen icon doesn’t show up on the health bars.
@MINICUBANT16 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 I though Bet-C was immun to freeze , but thanks to you (and the wiki) i now know that it just works like Q'ronar , but doesn't show the icon unlike Q'ronar. And it's easier to freeze than a grunt guard , so 1 cryo grenade is enough. I learnt a very useful tip , thanks , and ROCK AND STONE!
@tysoncook515216 күн бұрын
@@MINICUBANT no prob!
@watson_dabox285424 күн бұрын
What is the mod for this training room? I’ve been trying to find it but don’t know where.
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
Sandbox utilities :)
@watson_dabox285424 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 thanks man
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@watson_dabox2854 👍
@jackalsniper89217 күн бұрын
Does this apply to other dwarves damage? If so can you somehow try it with engi’s overdrive booster laser?
@tysoncook515217 күн бұрын
@@jackalsniper892 Yes it works with every type of damage from any source. I will try out the laser soon.
@tysoncook515217 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaiGmsiCxrmsYnk.html here is the test
@jackalsniper89217 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152 Cheers man, didn't expect to actually get the link, legend
@tysoncook515217 күн бұрын
@@jackalsniper892 I got time on my hands. If people want to see a test I might as well test it.
@YT_K_A21 күн бұрын
May I ask you a question? As a scout, I don’t understand… how?
@tysoncook515221 күн бұрын
@@YT_K_A Marked for death multiplies damage by 1.55. Cryo multiplies damage by 3. The shotgun does 23x11 or 253 damage per shot. 253x1.55x3=1176 damage. Double fire that and you get 2352 damage.
@gmsp12323 күн бұрын
Now I must ask: Does this overclock mark your teammates for death too? 😂
@tysoncook515223 күн бұрын
@@gmsp123 No. Would be funny if it could though.
@ocelot922824 күн бұрын
What loadout are you using?
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
It is shown in the video.
@cyber_cat.22 күн бұрын
Cheese ?
@tysoncook515222 күн бұрын
I like colby jack
@Max4453024 күн бұрын
how do you acces this testing area
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
You need a mod called sandbox utilities.
@miguelangelperez770526 күн бұрын
💀💀💀💀
@bigpapapurple24 күн бұрын
Now do it without freezing the enemy. A lot of that damage is coming from the frozen effect
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
I use a tweaked version of marked for death that uses ifgs and shaped shells with the phosphorus shells upgrade. If you want want a build that does more damage WITHOUT the cryo, here you go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eq-jnLBqlbCYm3k.htmlsi=L-ZfKm9dNPaHzauI
@bigpapapurple24 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152not here to take a builds but was interested to see the damage alone as it’s good information to know but then saw you froze it. making you do more damage then the already marked for death damage increase. That’s like freezing a enemy then hitting it with super cooling chamber and saying. “Guys super cooling did most of the work.” anything will do insane damage when frozen. A better title would be marked for death with frozen effect is insane. Which I’m not doubting it isn’t as your applying 2 damage increase effect. Which will delete anything. Also your in solo scaling.
@tysoncook515224 күн бұрын
@@bigpapapurple I don't think solo scaling is a problem. I would consider solo play to be the default. A lot of people play solo and if someone were to take my build and use it on a solo haz 5 mission they would get what they see here. If you do use this on a 4 player scaled mission the hazard scaling can make a difference, but sometimes you just need to shoot a little bit to finish it off. I think there is justification to the 4 player scaled argument, which is why I'm doing more testing with 4 player scaling, but I don't like to have 4 player scaling be the default when I play solo half the time and it doesn't reflect what I see in my testing.
@gambitsheild981426 күн бұрын
Is this haz 5 4 players though?
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
@@gambitsheild9814 No I haven’t figured out how to test that yet, plus I figured that has 5 singleplayer good enough to show off the damage.
@gambitsheild981426 күн бұрын
@tysoncook5152 5 single is pretty close. Good to know rather than it being haz 1.
@tysoncook515225 күн бұрын
@@gambitsheild9814 Yeah, I think I might do a follow up video. I think I know how to simulate haz 5 4 player scaling. I recently tried out the swarm control mod and you can adjust the health of enemies. I already used it once to test the limits of conductive thermals. All i have to do is look up how much more I need to scale it by.
@flapjackgd93725 күн бұрын
@@tysoncook5152you can use Custom Difficulty to replace the solo enemydamageresistance values with their 4p counterparts. For example, to change a praetorian to 4p scaling: “EnemyDamageResistance”: [ 1.2, 1.2, 1.4, 1.5, ], The 1.2 corresponds to 1 player scaling, so changing it to 1.5 would make it exactly the same as 4 player scaling.
@synka592225 күн бұрын
cool and all until you realize that its just absolutely not ammo efficient for anything but half a dozen big bursts per mission. just entirely unviable on haz6+ (or 5a for that matter)
@tysoncook515225 күн бұрын
@@synka5922 This particular build maybe. I run a bit of a variation that is more viable, but does less damage. The reason I showed off this combo here is because some people don’t care about ammo efficiency and might want to take this.
@rinsernik26 күн бұрын
1haz player
@TanJiaMing26 күн бұрын
i hate to say this but this is hazard 5 and clearly you havent test it on sandbox
@rinsernik26 күн бұрын
@@TanJiaMing kekw
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
yeah, haz 5. does kinda feel like haz one with how much damage you do lol!
@tysoncook515226 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbSUgdSVzuDMhac.html Here is a video where I show that I test on haz 5