Marlin 39a Old vs New Review and Range Time

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Tex Mex

Tex Mex

Күн бұрын

In this video we take a look at two different Marlin Model 39a rifles. One dating back to the early 1960’s and the other from the early 2000’s. After a brief look at the history and overview of the rifles, we test them against each other for function and accuracy plus comparing the trigger weights. Shooting out at just over 50 yards with CCI Mini-Mags and Standard Velocity 22 long rifle ammunition.

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@frankhinkle5772
@frankhinkle5772 8 ай бұрын
Nice comparison between the two. Your FIN's gun is an old sweetheart! Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Frank! I hope you and your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
@commandZee
@commandZee 8 ай бұрын
I'm chomping at the bit for Ruger/Marlin to announce a new 39a. They finally announced the .357 1894 so... 🤞
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Keeping my fingers crossed as well. I'm also hoping for a carbine version of the 1894.
@tedpfenninger4972
@tedpfenninger4972 7 ай бұрын
I got to believe Bill Ruger would completely approve of his company producing all the classic Marlin levers! ❤
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
@@tedpfenninger4972 I agree Ted! Lets hope it starts to happen. Would be nice to see some of these models back on the market.
@cervus-venator
@cervus-venator 8 ай бұрын
So cool Tex Mex. I'd love to get me a 39a. I've been looking but they are hard to come by. I loved seeing the groupings and man your father-in-law's old rifle is nice even with the character it has been given over the years.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Cervus! It is a great old rifle with lots of personality and wear to show its age. F.I.L. told me it was the first rifle he bought. Has been shooting critters with it for close to 60 years.
@cervus-venator
@cervus-venator 7 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots that's awesome!
@MrHelidave1
@MrHelidave1 Ай бұрын
I'm from the UK and I bought a 1956 (I think) 39a about 12 years ago and just love it - It's the same as the one your father in-law has but I have to say mines in better condition, although not perfect as I shoot it rather than look at it! It has a slightly heavier trigger that yours but shoots fantastically well - very accurate. I change the sights every now and again, alternating between a small scope and skinner peep sight - at 64 it would make more sense to leave the scope on but I'm hitting the gongs at 50M without issue with the skinner and I just love the simplicity of the rifle with this setup. If I could I would keep this rifle forever but unfortunately the UK gun laws make a license and member of a club obligatory and as I get older, something will have to give I guess. Still...enjoying it whilst I can.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots Ай бұрын
Howdy Mr. Helidave! Greetings from across the pond. The skinner peep sights are a great way to improve the 39a. They are a great addition especially if you put it on the receiver which will increase the sight radius by quite a bit. However, putting a scope on it really helps show the intrinsic accuracy of these fine rifles. I'm sorry to hear about the restrictions you have to deal with. That Marlin should be an heirloom to pass down. Especially considering they haven't been made in about a decade. Take care and stay safe!
@daletustison8550
@daletustison8550 3 ай бұрын
Nothing ever broke in either of my 39 As. My original and favorite, the firing pin simply wore down. I have fired more rounds than anyone but a factory test team. It is not a flaw. Even I am about worn out.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Dale! I have heard about the firing pins wearing down. Of course that is after thousands and thousands of rounds. Maybe I need to look for a spare just in case.
@daletustison8550
@daletustison8550 3 ай бұрын
Open sights. You did great. I bought my 1st one in 1957
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Dale! I appreciate it. They really are great rifles. I'm putting a peep sight on mine to see if I can get the groups a little tighter.
@L.V-Rider
@L.V-Rider 7 ай бұрын
Wow, that trigger is good. I never shot with a 39A but it seems everybody that have them love them. I have a Winchester 9422 and don't know wat the original trigger pull is, but it is not to heavy, around two pounds. I replaced and shortened the hammer spring and the trigger pull is a bit softer but one must be careful not to lighten it to much else you will get light strikes and the round will not go off. I put the original spring back as I use the rifle for small game hunting and a to light trigger in the field is also not good and I prefer reliable strikes rather than a little bit lighter trigger. Good video. And I like that old scope, it has character.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
The 9422 is something special. I had one and regrettable sold it off years ago to fund another project. Really wish they were back in production.
@James-fl9bv
@James-fl9bv 26 күн бұрын
I picked up a Marlin Golden 39 A take down model a couple of years ago. It's an early model, best I can tell it was made in 1976. I have several Marlins from a .22 caliber to the Marlin 444
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 26 күн бұрын
Sounds like you got a real gem there. The early models are the best. I'm not a fan of the rebounding hammer.
@James-fl9bv
@James-fl9bv 26 күн бұрын
@texmexshoots I think I do too. I really like it. It has some sign of use but not abused.
@ronkay1573
@ronkay1573 6 ай бұрын
My 39A was made in 1960 and is smooth with a nice trigger. It likes CCI stingers and wears an old weaver made in El Paso Texas fixed 4x. Quality made.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
Good Ol' El Paso! Had a buddy that lived there for a long time, so I got to do some great dove and duck hunting on the river and lots of great exploring on BLM land. I didn't know the old weavers were made there!
@ronkay1573
@ronkay1573 6 ай бұрын
I’d love to see another video comparing the two again after you scope the newer 39A. Also try different ammo. How about subsonic HP’s?
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Ron! I put on skinner sight on the newer 39a and I'm going to see if that helps much at 50 yards. If not I may end up scoping it.
@Flyrod10
@Flyrod10 7 ай бұрын
I have a 1897 cowboy with the rebounding hammer and I got about 2-3 misfires a box and bad trigger pull, I replaced all of the trigger parts and hammer with non rebounding parts. The trigger improved greatly and no longer have misfires.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I just replaced the hammer spring and it improved the trigger by about one pound. Feels a little better too. But I'm afraid it may be too light and may cause misfires. Plan to do another test with it here soon.
@drummer0864
@drummer0864 5 ай бұрын
Put that scope on and take it out again. I'd love to see what that rifle has in it. I haven't had a chance to get mine out for some long range shooting, but at an indoor range at 25 yrds., there was a steel match and I felt like I was cheating. 40 out of 40.@@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 4 ай бұрын
@@drummer0864 I ended up putting a skinner peep on it and will be doing a video soon. At 25 yards the 39a is a laser! Take care and happy shooting.
@geordiegeorge9041
@geordiegeorge9041 7 ай бұрын
My 39A is a Golden it was manufactured in 1967. I bought it for approx $320 back in 2004, it had sat in a gun safe since 1970.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got a great deal! Finding an older 39A in good condition is getting harder and harder.
@simonh5110
@simonh5110 7 ай бұрын
I was gifted a 67 golden 39a and it is my favorite gun in the safe! A true friend gave it to me.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
@@simonh5110 A true friend indeed! Thanks for watching.
@jimdebarr5616
@jimdebarr5616 2 ай бұрын
I got my Golden 39A made in the 66, at. A yard sale in 1980 for $75. Best rifle I ever bought.
@daletustison8550
@daletustison8550 3 ай бұрын
I had my firing pin rebuilt 3 times. Still shoots as ever. 1st scope was an old 3/4 inch Redfield 2 3/4 power
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
I've heard that the firing pin is a part that occasionally breaks on the 39a. I hope Ruger starts producing them again so I can get a spare pin just in case.
@Valorius
@Valorius 8 ай бұрын
I do love a lever gun. They scream "America."
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Yes they do. Although, due to the spaghetti westerns the Italians sure seem to love them as much as we do. Hope the 39a's come back in production here in the U.S. at some point.
@ronkay1573
@ronkay1573 6 ай бұрын
Good shooting and good comparison. Get a trigger job on that newer 39A.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
I just switched out the hammer spring, which lowered the trigger weight to about 3lbs. Going to see if that helps. Heading back out to the country in a few weeks. Work and Kids Volleyball tournaments have me busy!
@thomasholohan4090
@thomasholohan4090 Күн бұрын
Open sights can be a challenge for those who are bit older. I believe your groups were not that bad for a buckhorn arrangement, as those sights were not designed for precise target shooting. A receiver sight may preserve the "traditional" appearance and still provide tighter grouping and easier zeroing adjustment. I understand enthusiasm for a light trigger, but 1 lb or less would not appeal to me for field use for safety reasons.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks Thomas for your well thought out and wise words. The trigger on my FIL's 39a is too light for field use. But he won't allow me to mess with it. As for the groups, you are likely correct as well. I can only expect so much from open sights. I put a Skinner peep sight on it which has helped a bit.
@Valorius
@Valorius 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if you've ever tried, but .22 short CCI "CB's" are utterly quiet from a lever gun, and the gun will probably hold about 20 of them. Just a friendly tip for a fellow guntuber. ;)
@johndilday1846
@johndilday1846 8 ай бұрын
I used to shoot the CB caps in my older 39AS, and it was tv silencer quiet. And it held an amazing amount of cartridges.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for he tip! Might be able to get some critters without bothering the neighbors.😁
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Looks like I will need to give them a try. I think I saw some at the store the other day. Need to go get my hands on some.
@Valorius
@Valorius 7 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots Make sure you get the shorts, they are much quieter than the long rifle version.
@danielnichols9049
@danielnichols9049 2 ай бұрын
You can buy the CB’s directly from CCI if you can’t find them at your local supplier.
@EdAb
@EdAb 3 ай бұрын
I have a 1968 39a in gorgeous condition. Interestingly, the trigger is extremely crisp and feels like a true glass rod, but it has a comparatively heavy pull. I don't have a gauge, but it's probably 5lbs. I wonder if there is a way to lighten the pull without ruining its perfect break? Cheers
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Ed! Yes indeed, there is a way to lighten the trigger. Since yours is an older model without the cross-bolt safety or rebounding hammer, you can install a lighter hammer spring. There are a few companies that make them, including Wolf. On newer models, lighter springs can cause misfires by not striking the rim of the cartridge hard enough. I've had that problem and will be posting a video soon about it. But on the older models are much more forgiving and a reduced power spring might get you to a trigger between 3-4 lbs.
@EdAb
@EdAb 3 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots Awesome, I'll check Wolf for that spring! Thanks!
@steveyaworsky6170
@steveyaworsky6170 5 ай бұрын
Good video, although I must make one correction. Marlin added the awful cross-bolt safety back in '83, and mot '73 as stated. The smoother/lighter trigger in the older one is likely just from use. They tend to work themselves in with repeated use. Unlike the trigger mechanism of the center fire models where you can add reduced power hammer springs, I don't think there's much you can do other than through use on the rimfire models. I own 5 Marlin lever guns, in .22, .357 mag, .44 mag, .30-30, and .45-70. All are from what I consider their finest era from '72 through '82. They added the fold down )and what I consider preferable) rear sight in '72, and added what I consider to be the undesirable cross-bolt safety in '83. I don't know one person has gone to shoot one with the cross-bolt safety that hasn't forgotten to release it, and it went "click" instead of "bang" as expected. Other than those made by Remington between 2008 and 2019, these are wonderful guns. I much prefer them to anything Winchester has produced, but Henry does give them a run for the money. But that's just my opinion.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 5 ай бұрын
Oops, my bad. Must have written it down wrong in my notes. Thanks for the correction!
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 7 ай бұрын
lol, I just did a video on my early 50's Peanut model.... It doesn't have a 3/8" rail for a scope from back then though.... Likes CCI 40 grain lead standard velocity the best.... be well.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks MegaBait! Just subscribed to your channel. I'll go check it out your video. The model I have is tapped with two tiny screws for a mount. However I ended up putting a skinner peep on it. Planning to head out of the city this weekend to try it out. Hope the weather stays good.
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 7 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots , I put on Williams dovetail Firesights on my 39a which helped A Lot... Also has Ballard Rifling thus the lead round nose CCI Standard velocity.... Subbed ya too.. be well.... MB.
@lens7859
@lens7859 8 ай бұрын
Love lever guns
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Len! Lever guns are the best. They are like rifles with personality.
@alexugorcak6159
@alexugorcak6159 5 ай бұрын
I just found a model 39 Century 1894
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Alex. You are a lucky man for finding such a Gem. I bet she will be fun to shoot!
@mic982
@mic982 3 ай бұрын
So, on the trigger pulls, if one is shooting the newer rifle exclusively (and a lot) 3.75 - 4.25 lb pull isn't bad and once gotten used to can still shoot some good groups. If you had a scope on that rifle you clearly would have shot better groups. I'd guess the scope made more difference than the trigger.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I do agree that my Father in Law's trigger is too lite to be safe. I just would not chamber a live round until you are ready to shoot. Also, I've tried to lighten the trigger a bit on my Marlin, but it started giving me misfires. I'll be posting videos about that issue here soon.
@ronawood
@ronawood 5 ай бұрын
I don't think the new version is shooting that bad for open sights. You just need to sight it in. It is definitely shooting all ammo to the left. Just drift the front sight a tiny bit to the left and you'll be good.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ronawood! I ended up putting a skinner peep on it and I'm shooting it much better. The Skinner is easier to drift than the buckhorn and gives me a slightly longer sight radius. I will post a video about the skinner soon.
@Felix-fy7ki
@Felix-fy7ki 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't find a Marlin 39A some years ago and bought a Browning BL-22 instead because of it's positive critics. I'm totally disappointed by it's accuracy as well as the fact that it's only steel outside and all moving parts are inside an aluminium block and will wear out much quicker so.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Hopefully Ruger will start making more Marlins and will produce some new 39A's. Would be nice to see them on the market again and to have more spare parts.
@Felix-fy7ki
@Felix-fy7ki 3 ай бұрын
​@@texmexshootsI hope so. Unfortunately, here in Germany the number of long guns I'm allowed to own is restricted to ten and I can't buy another rifle. Very sad about that...
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 3 ай бұрын
@@Felix-fy7ki I could see how that would be sad. I inherited about 10 rifles from my father alone. Would be difficult to decide which to keep. Hoping to visit Germany over the next year to hit some Christmas markets. Was fortunate to visit in 96' and always wanted to return.
@user-rk2to5yg8r
@user-rk2to5yg8r 5 ай бұрын
Use a 6 o'clock hold with the iron sights so you don't cover up your target
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Dale! Usually that is what I do. In this case the distance to the target made them so small that I thought I would be hitting too low if I tried that method.
@TeamJesusOutdoors
@TeamJesusOutdoors 6 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of the factory sights on the 39. I have a pre-70s version, and I have switched to a Skinner sight.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Team Jesus! When my eyes were stronger, the sights worked fine for me. But now I'm not having much luck with the buckhorn. But good news! I just installed skinner sights on my Marlin 39a and took it out last weekend. I should get that video up sometime here soon. A couple of quick questions though. Did you install it on the receiver or replace the buckhorn? Plus, did you need to switch out your front sight to a taller blade?
@TeamJesusOutdoors
@TeamJesusOutdoors 6 ай бұрын
I have only had the sight for a few days, have installed it yet. I will be installing it on the receiver, which is already drilled and tapped. My eyes too, are not what they used to be. LOL
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
@@TeamJesusOutdoors I installed mine on the receiver as well. Had to drift the windage a little bit but that was all. Was hitting point of aim at 50 yards with the original front sight. But I still need to try it at some closer ranges to see if it is hitting too high/low
@TeamJesusOutdoors
@TeamJesusOutdoors 6 ай бұрын
I have been concerned about the front sight, because I have heard mixed reports on keeping the stock front sight. I will know soon.
@pnotuner1
@pnotuner1 6 ай бұрын
Your Pa in law has great taste in rifles. I like my trigger and don't like a hair trigger. But his looks like mine.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Pro! He later told me it was his first rifle. I just need to clean her up a bit.
@pnotuner1
@pnotuner1 6 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots I also got mine from my father in law
@jw-sigp2258
@jw-sigp2258 7 ай бұрын
I do a marlin 39 discussion video on my channel. Mines a 39 carbine. Nice video. Marlin 39 rifles are beautiful and make awesome squirrel rifles.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know! I'll go check it out and subscribe. I plan on doing another video soon since I've added a peep sight and changed the hammer spring on the rifle. With any luck it will tighten up my groups at 50 yards.
@jw-sigp2258
@jw-sigp2258 7 ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots I subscribed to your channel as well. Can’t wait to see how your rifle does with the peep sight on it.
@ronkay1573
@ronkay1573 6 ай бұрын
That old marlin is a shooter. Put a scope on that newer 39A.
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
That old marlin is a shooter. It was only 50 yards, but even so those were some great groups.
@ericvonp
@ericvonp Ай бұрын
About now you take out you AR w 30 rd mag and waste the targets….right?
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with some mag dumps! As long as you have plenty of ammo.
@juanziegler1471
@juanziegler1471 Ай бұрын
try comparing apples w apples ..scope vs sites mine is pre 50s and i dont blame the gun
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Juan. The pre 50's 30as are amazing rifles. Do you have a scope on yours?
@juanziegler1471
@juanziegler1471 Ай бұрын
@@texmexshoots took it off to clean it up was my great uncles my father remembers it when he was 10 .just working on the year but not going to sell it . any help is welcome . thank you
@BigRooster616
@BigRooster616 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sad condition for such a nice rifle . 😢
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's sadly typical for my Father in law's stuff. He treats all his tools roughly. I clean them up for him now and then but it's like fighting the power of entropy.
@kenpardue2594
@kenpardue2594 7 ай бұрын
My 39A will not chamber 22 long rifle
@texmexshoots
@texmexshoots 7 ай бұрын
Really? Does it jam when you try to cycle the action? Check the barrel and make sure it says it will take 22lr. If so, then it is possible someone fired so many 22 shorts out of it that a carbon ring has been left on the chamber making it difficult to put in the longer 22lr casing.
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