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Thanks! Oh cool! 🤘

Cool! Glad to hear! Thanks!

Thanks man!

Wow, thanks!

Thanks man! Glad to hear! Yeah it’d be cool to try that out. Hopefully some day 😎.

That’s great! 🤘

TSL lead channel is not really designed for chunk or rhythms. Its designed to be for solo's.

Same here, from the first chord I hit on my JVM410, I was smiling. It's an amazing amp.

@@Orange6921 Exactly! The key to using the TSL is use the crunch channel as your rhythm sound. Play it loud (past 4) and use the deep switch. You want more gain? Use a boost pedal (try one that adds a bit of high mids to the sound). Use the lead channel only for solo's (and use the deep switch to fatten it up). I was disappointed when I got my JVM, I hoped it would be a 4 channel TSL.

Agreed. The TSL Lead channel sounds great on solos but not so good on power chords. I could get great results even on milder solos like 'Who's Cryin' Now.' For me, the TSL Clean channel is passable but it's always way too ‘spanky,' like Marshall wants it to sound like a country Fender amp. Now the Crunch channel is just about perfect! It sounds just as good to me as the DSL or the Vintage Modern.

Cool! Indeed! 💪👌

Thanks! Indeed 😊🤘

@@EugeValovirta230V can you try the TSL at some point also with a guitar with passive humbuckers? Your EMGs kick ass...I am playing the TSL with JB4s on a Jackson KV1 and with Gibson 496R/500T pups on a Flying V but I seem to luck that "crispy" part of the tone with both, although I can get close enough with an overdrive or with an eq-pedal...just being curious...:)

Sure! Will add to my to do - list. Luckily I have one guitar with passive bridge humbucker (Tokai Strat).

Cheers man and thanks! TSL is a fantastic amp indeed 👌. Yeah that digital stuff is pretty damn good nowadays. I haven’t used a real amp live since 2017 and I’m very happy with my rig that basically fits into a backpack 😎. I did a video about it if your interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJZxadZqspPKgIU.html

Thanks! The original UK made JCM2000 DSL is really good. The new far east made DSLs are OK but...😎

I have a UK made JCM 2000 Dsl used for $650. It's amazing but everyone agrees the Lead 2 channel is fizzy. if I could do it all over again, I'd just get the 50 watt JVM because my taste is super modern metal.

You’re welcome. Thanks!

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Cool! Indeed 🤘

That has always been my description for the TSL, it just cuts and slices through the mix like few amps I've ever played. So many good amps seem to be a little buried in the mix and things just get muddy if I try to crank it more, that is NEVER the case with my TSL. It just slices through the base and drums with such clarity. I'm not saying the JVM does not (I don't even have one yet). I'm just saying that is the biggest characteristic of a TSL compared to other Marshalls. When I play a DSL and TSL without the band they sound practically the same. When the bass and drums are going I can tell the TSL cuts through way better.

@@Orange6921 most definitely the TSL just pushes through everything with the volume on 3. The JVM doesn’t cut quite as strongly but it shakes the floor on those high gain settings. I love both equally

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Thanks! I use the amps I have 👍. All good thanks!

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Thanks! I have a TSL but I think you can get the same sounds from both 👌.

Cool riffin man.lol I love it.I’m hunting for a jvm 210 h.cannot afford the big one.can I get the good higain chugs from a jvm 210.? Thanks

I haven’t tried it but most likely yes.

Thanks! 😎

@@EugeValovirta230V watching a string of your videos today!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

Cool! 🤘🎼🎸🙏

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You got good ears. I had the same experience.

I did the same but after playing the jvm I realised it's many levels above my tsl as far as what it can do

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Indeed 🤘👍

Great amp and especially the clean channel is just 👌.

Thanks Eddy! Yeah I prefer the TSL too. I'm really happy with my non-modded ones but if I feel I need one I'll contact you ;-). Your Arcturus mod sounded pretty damn good \m/.

@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks, mate! Your 800s boosted sound killer! I prefer the feel of a modded one and the top end can be made a bit smoother...

Thanks! I just love the aggressive sound, and the top end of OG 800 👌👊.

I like then in power amp but for preamp they are a bit too bright for my taste. I prefer JJECC83S for preamp 👌. But in Mesa they could work better than in Marshalls.

All good thanks! Yeah I think they’re JJs 👌.

Both are great amps and the gain control on both is there for a reason 😊. Thanks!

It’s been quite a while since I shot this video so I don’t remember anymore. It isn’t ”viewable” on the video? That’s the way! 😎💪

@@EugeValovirta230V oh ok. Hard to see the color of the lights. But I'll check it out again... it is the way!😎🤘

If you could only have one based on tone alone, JVM then? I passed on the TSL and bought a JVM210H a decade ago and recently upgraded to the JVM410H.

@@davej8045 any update on your jvm410h? Things you like and do not?

@@tgchan There really isn’t anything that I dislike about the JVM410H, though at one point it seemed to be better with a noise gate because it can be such a gain monster, depending how it’s setup. I had a guitar that sounded abysmal through every amplifier at home and spent way too much time trying redial them all just to be remotely satisfied with that particular guitar. I sort of accidentally found my “Zen” after going back to basic settings with the JVM and the mated speaker cabinet. I was stoked that a couple of guitars that previously just sounded okay to me sound really good now. I was considering getting the new Bogner Uber Ultra but couldn’t decide if a different one should be re-homed to make room. I bought a KHE amp/cab switcher to run everything through the 2 favorite cabinets and was able to dial everything else in better on the other amplifiers. I also noticed that the JVM didn’t need a noise gate any more than the other amps. Perhaps my favorite thing about the JVM410H is the versatility that it has between the channels and modes. Just cycle through them all and it’s fairly apparent what tones you can get without overthinking it. I have a couple of amplifiers and it sometimes feels like a hearing test, tweaking stuff in and trying to pick up on differences that I can barely notice. Comparing and contrasting the JVM to the other amplifiers through the same cabinets made me like it even more.

@@davej8045 Thank you very much for sharing your experience with it. How is the master volume on that beast? Can you play in a middle of the night with it?

@@tgchan You are welcome...I can't say that I've tried the (410's) volume down quite that much since I bought it. Comparatively, I ran the JVM210H through an attenuator into a Marshall 1936 lead 2X12 cabinet to try to push it to give me the right feel and not go deaf. I did try the 410 with the same attenuator but couldn't notice much of a benefit, most likely because it felt a lot better to me already without pushing it. Also, my Mesa B. TC-100 has a built in attenuator and the system volume on my Friedman BE-100 D. does seem to be a little better than the rest. Now that I'm mostly running everything through a 4X12 or a deep vertical 2X12, I have the volumes at roughly the same perceived level. The Mezzabarba Trinity 100 master volumes are on the back along with some other knobs but I'm good with how everything is dialed. I brought up the volumes of the other amps to be relatively close to the Mezz. From the standpoint of being able to practice late, I have to have the volume louder than the resonation of my strings, which in my situation would most likely wake up the girlfriend upstairs.

You are welcome P 😎🙏

Yeah TSL is a fantastic amp and I have the deep switch always on on the od channels. More balls that way 😎. There’s a sweet spot with the master on most tube amps when they just starts to roar. That’s the case especially with older Marshalls. And when they roar oh boy it’s like 💪👊👌.

OK! Thanks for the info!

L O I was in the same boat! Had no idea about boost pedalling until about 3yrs ago. Sold my TSL and then begged the guy to sell it back me after buying the 410. Now I can’t dump the 410 but I do have two TSL100’s! Btw the tsl60 and tsl100 are two completely different sounding amps (sry if you knew that already)

thecase1975 which one do you prefer? JVM or TSL? Many say the JVM is better & that the DSL is the best modern Marshall.

L O between you and I the tsl100 is Marshall’s answer the the trip. rec. (Only my opinion, others may think differently) so it’s voiced lower and as Euge puts it “more angry sounding” and I think that turns a ton of ‘marshall’ people off. I personally love it. If you like Fear Factory, Lamb of God, Ministry type grind the TSL100 is your beast with a boost pedal (not the 60watt!!!! I had one of those also..sold it.)JVM is a Dad Marshall. Seems to be missing....balls or something. I can find very similar sounds out of different amps for not $1800 (used) in Canada. I just can’t put my finger on it yet. My Best analogy I can come up with is: jvm/jcm800 2205-2210. TSL100/jcm800 2203 (like Euge’s) the TSL is just plain ‘meaner’.

L O I’d say the JVM is based on the Mode Four using tubes instead of transistors

Absolutely 👌.

To me Boogies has always been the nice ”Santana” - style smooth sounding heads with scooped mids etc. and Marshall has always been the mean sounding tight rock & metal machines but that’s just me 😎.

For me growing up, most of my heroes played the Mark series and the dual and triple rectifiers. That massive wall of sound, but now I'm after that more mids based OD/ dist. I used to associate Marshall with the likes of GNR and AC/DC, more rock than metal & not that I didn't think they don't rock!(Didn't realise that Kerry King or Gary Holt played Marshall). It wasn't till recently that I knew Santana used the Tweed MESA'. I love santana's tone!.

Mine played Marshalls 😎: Eddie, Randy Rhoads, Gary Moore, Zakk Wylde, Hetfield (he used JCM800 on the earlier albums), Slash etc etc. . And of course Kerry & Hanneman; Reign In Blood, South Of Heaven & Seasons In The Abyss had a big impact on me when I was a kid.

@@EugeValovirta230V all the legends!. Gary Moore really changed the way I looked at the blues and the way he took it to a heavy rock area, but still kept it as the blues (Eddie took the basis of the blues and took it somewhere completely different). Hell, he almost ended up touring for Ozzy, but had a skate board accident. Those 3 Slayer albums are a metal staple, they were pretty much required listening when I started to metal in the mid 90's, along with Early Metallica. I'll have to revisit those marshall days for a lot of those artists. My big influences for MESA are Dream Theatre, Metallica (despite the muddy production, the proggy writing for Justice is phenomenal), Behemoth and one of my biggest heroes, Devin Townsend.

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Thanks! Yeah TSL is great! And JVM. And Marshall’s in general 💪👊😎.

The sound engineer my band mostly hires says that I got my best sound when I used the TSL 100. To name some of the amps I had : Marshalls 800 2203, 2204, Jubilee 2555, 800 KK, 900 SL-X, JVM 410 (he had one of these himself and was surprised I got a better sound with the TSL) . I also used a Fryette Sig X, Peavey 6505+, Engl Blackmore (he liked this one)... Never used my modded Marshall 1959 slp when he was behind the mixing console though.. The last time he worked with us I used my Friedman BE 100 Deluxe and he said he still preferred me using the Marshall TSL100...

Yes it is 💪. TSL is great also but there’s only one King 😎. All Marshalls (especially the older ones) sound different from each other which could be a blessing and a curse 😊. JMP 2203s are generally a bit smoother than the horizontal input 800 2203s.

100 watt tube is always a 100 watt tube amp. Hard to beat 😎💪.

Can’t remember but probably quite the same depending how bright one dials them 😎.

Both are great amps indeed 👌💪.

Yes, he knows a lot about guitar gear by now 👍😎

I have to ask if he’s willing to do so 😉

@@EugeValovirta230V It would be really cool \m/

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I haven’t played with a TSL60 so unfortunately can’t answer to that 🙏.

Can’t argue with personal opinions.

@@EugeValovirta230V Indeed, you have to test 🤗

I played with the newer 100w DSL a few times back in the day live with Shining. It’s good but not as good as the original JCM2000 DSL.

I traded a shitty DSL 40C vs DSL401 JCM 2000 😆😆👍👍 Man the Crunch Channel on this Combo is soo good. Also own DSL5O ans TSL100 plus a jcm900 MkIII. Love all of them! But the Dsl401 JCM 2000 with half Open Back and G12 H30 70th sounds phenomenal also on room volume Levels.

The DSL40C has such a shitty Overdrive..unbelieveable!!!! The DSl100 /DSL20 heads seem totally different.

Cool!

I had the 40 W combo I didn't like it but I do like my 100 DSL head alot.. Especially at higher volumes it sounds much better cranked a bit

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They are compressed too much. They can open up live but You need a long time with them. Once you mod them they will be the last amp you own

I borrowed the JVM from a friend to do a few videos about it so no 😎.

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They’re very similar indeed. Both gets the job done great 👌.

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The 60 Watt version sounds way different than the TSL 100.

@@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst wow. It was a fun amp.

Those probably can’t play that much. I think it’s a great amplifier.

Personal preferences and it’s in the hands of a player anyways 👌😎.

You should had (or if you already did) swap the power tubes on the TSL. My TSL sounded so so so good (during my "band" days). I loved it. A few years ago, I sold it (personal), but I wished I didn't.

Oh all tubes been changed so many times during the years. It sounds great so I’ll change again the next they blow up 😎.

Best marshall ever made in my book..

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Both are fantastic amps and it’s all about personal preferences 👌😎.

Does your name (Santiago) have something to do with it? 😉. Anyway, for me it's TSL 100 all the way.

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I agree 👍😎

@@EugeValovirta230V mine has Svetlana Power Amp and Ruby Tubes 12AX 7AC5 HG and in V1 Ruby HG+. Ruby tubes where the Tubes ,that where Standard with TSL . Before there where some Marshall 12AX7. Ruby Sound bit better ;)