Marshall JCM800 Studio vs 4 Tube Screamers! Modern Metal

Marshall JCM800 Studio vs 4 Tube Screamers! Modern Metal | Axe Palace

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4 жыл бұрын

Let's say your uncle gave you his old tube amp. It's your first one, it's old and doesn't sound like much, but you want to turn it into a modern metal machine - which of these pedals gets you the farthest? We had our friend Sam try to tackle that question in this video.
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MXR Custom Modified : axepalace.com/effects/mxr/mxr...
EarthQuaker Devices Palisades :
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Signal Chain (listed in sequence):
- Framus Devin Townsend Stormbender Prototype (Fishman Devin Townsend Signature Pickup set)
- Overdrive Pedal
- JCM800 Studio 20w Head (High Sensitivity Input, High Power mode)
- Two Notes Torpedo Studio (running 2 homemade Engl 212 IR's)
- UAD Apollo
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@kotymccallister5150 4 жыл бұрын

Ts808 for the win. Has a good bite without adding too much gain.

@drewclaxton9381 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I hope this channel grows along with everything else associated with it. Highly talented musicians, great info and products, super concise and fantastic post video editing. I never really comment on youtube videos but color me impressed! Look forward to more content.

@ThevonMusic 2 жыл бұрын

From one KZfaqr to another, you're doing a great job! Good riffs, good comparisons, good video footage. Keep it going!

@Squeeb24 4 жыл бұрын

For the price that MXR is pretty killer!

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

yeah man, it's a great little pedal! That 100hz knob can work wonders too - at noon, it's neutral, and then either boosts or cuts depending on where you turn the knob.. works just as well to bring some extra beef to a 1x12, as it does to tighten up a flubby 4x12, thing is amazing Thanks for watching! - Sam

@jgmopar 3 жыл бұрын

MXR Il Diavlo is an awesome pedal for Clean boost. I would say it will rival the green ones

@aragorn767 3 жыл бұрын

The JCM800 is my dream amp. Best amp for metal.

@disembodiedstudios 4 жыл бұрын

This is how ya do demo videos!! Great job! The m77 seems super cool.

@andyjm7122 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic vid, so useful to hear these compared through the jcm800

@blahboidblah 4 жыл бұрын

Nice shootin' Tex. Great review as well.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir!

@electropentatonic 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. I have a TS808 coming Saturday, never owned one before but I really liked the 40th anniversary model. Looking forward to exploring some new sounds.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

Cool, hope you dig it! In the future perhaps consider purchasing from us :D

@electropentatonic 4 жыл бұрын

@@AxePalace Lots of nice gear on your website. I definitely will

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

electropentatonic sweet, thanks :)

@Dennisbluschke 3 жыл бұрын

Love the Mesa Grid Slammer.

@christiancordaway2181 2 жыл бұрын

I like the mxr, it gives me a ground between an sd1 and ts9 when plugging onto my studio classic

@duck2587 4 жыл бұрын

They all sound great. In the mix, MXR sounds best. They all sound killer by themselves. I have the MXR and swear by it as well. Very underrated.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

dude that pedal is SUPER underrated! LOVE it! Maybe I'll make a video of that pedal alone just to isolate/highlight the Bump and 100hz knob and talk about how much I love them lol Thanks for watching and commenting!

@MatthewWebster2 4 жыл бұрын

Please do Sam, I'd love to learn more about the MXR. I've been searching and considering a mini TS9 or a Maxon OD, but this MXR has got my attention! Thanks for your great quality videos!

@howardswrx1883 3 жыл бұрын

@@AxePalace hi Sam could you please do that. I have had the mxr for almost 8 years now and still haven’t figured how to utilise this versatile OD pedal

@Spark-xu1mu 4 жыл бұрын

This Sounds like my Crunch Channel on the 6505 with the gain all the way down.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

LOL you ain't wrong

@jorgeguitar2540 3 жыл бұрын

I think it sounds heavy why more gain?

@Smittyschainsaws 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize you had a store until I saw it in the comments.

@N6J6R6 3 жыл бұрын

YO. What brand are the black patch cables you're using between the pedals??

@majinghost5809 2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to buy the jcm 800 studio combo version Does it make any big differences?

@V6u 3 жыл бұрын

Wheres boss sd and ts9? Would choose either of those for the modern sound

@dainhamilton4962 4 жыл бұрын

The earthquaker may tonally be my favorite, but definitely not my old wallets favorite

@underpressureman 4 жыл бұрын

How do you find the mini 800 compared to the 100w 800's??

@byronh77 4 жыл бұрын

What's the track playing in the background during the speaking?

@Rooster7six 4 жыл бұрын

Guitars only! 🤘🤘🤘

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

lol see, we listen! :D Thanks for watching, - Sam

@underpressureman 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Channel!!!

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

James Cassidy thank you, man!

@kopan14 2 жыл бұрын

how would this SC20H compared to the DSL20H w.r.t high gain/ metal tone ?

@special_circumstancs 4 жыл бұрын

They all sounded pretty similar to me. Nice demo.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

considering that they're all built with the intention of being a subtle variation on the same circuit, the biggest difference will probably be made by how you have the knobs turned, and what knobs the pedal offers you for turning. Ex: The MXR can get sounds that virtually none of the other pedals in the video can get, because that 100hz knob boosts everything above noon, and cuts everything under noon.. so if you crank it up, you can get the sound of a TubeScreamer with WAY too much low end, and everything gets kinda fuzzy and weird and 'almost broken' sounding.. The Palisades offers that Bandwidth knob which is a similar idea, but it doesn't offer any frequency-specific boost, and is restricted to predetermined voices, as opposed to a linear. The TS808 and Grid Slammer don't have this kind of thing at all, so the tonal difference is limited more to components used in the tone pot or whatever, and thus much more subtle. thanks for watching and commenting!

@eliaskapravelos7171 3 жыл бұрын

crank everything to 10, boost with a proco rat, hook up to a cab loaded with 75w celestions, add a USA B.C. Rich for extra metal points. Or just get a DSL, way more gain and modern.

@XChristianNoirX 4 жыл бұрын

TS808. The others sound good by themselves and all sound relatively similar. If these were the only options, I'd go TS808 and pick any of the other 3. Probably the MXR or the Grid Slammer, because the Palisades is just too expensive. I also didn't find it jaw dropping in a store, and much prefer od808, soulfood, and vop9.

@saintrhoads3375 4 жыл бұрын

I love the soul food, but I think it sounds way better when used with a Les Paul or something similar. Sounds thin with my strat. Then again, I'm probably very incompetent.

@saintrhoads3375 4 жыл бұрын

2:05 are those the settings you used!?

@Disabledguitarist1985 4 ай бұрын

Maybe do one with the pre amp maxed out ?

@rambobrown9661 3 жыл бұрын

Got the 2020 stealth model, i stupidly mistaken it for a high gain amp, or say a higher gain version of the SC20 but in turned out to be just a cosmetic. Man all i can say after so many years using 5150s and 6505s the SC20 feels like a clean amp, not even close to the crunch channel of the 5150s and tbh i'm struggling alot to find the right spot😑 even with boosts.

@tubeaddicted485 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I knew that the sc20.is not a highgain amp, but still I can't find the right boost pedal. Also, the 2x12 cabinet is not as I expected.

@omarheavy2009 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, the same here! I bought the stealth for its killer looks but yeah, not satisfied.. we are just used to high gain amps & this amp cleaner than our thoughts 😅 It's known the Boss sd1 works quite well with the Marshall's, I've tried it, tried many other ODS + eq10 in the loop & it was not enough... but among all, I prefer the revv g3, works better than the rest!

@clintn6677 4 жыл бұрын

I wish my uncle would give me a Marshall. Only thing he gave me was the Clap.. I'm kidding. I want one of these marshalls though

@The_Bass_Stunters 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Mesa Grid Slammer and it has a bit more cut than the reg 808. Got it for cheap though so hard to beat it for $60 on the used market.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

Stuntman D29 dude that’s a steal! :O

@ziggyz2958 3 жыл бұрын

I liked the TS808. It's also amazing in front of my Rectifier.

@memself4110 Жыл бұрын

Earthquaker then MXR the other two just didn't cut it.

@Smurfman256 4 жыл бұрын

Turn the gain and presence all the way up, then boost. Trust me.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

you got it, boss; duly noted for next time I have one here Thanks for watching and commenting! - Sam

@bskitchenriffs6522 4 жыл бұрын

The mesa gs sounds better with the gain 1/4 up. I own it. The mxr sounded great

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Cunningham I love the Gridslammer too. For many amps it's my favorite on the market. For amps that are seriously undergained like the Marshall however, the MXR hits a bit harder :)

@bskitchenriffs6522 4 жыл бұрын

@@AxePalace the Mesa doesn't over-color. So many of the jcm800 players in the late 80's/early 90's thrash had theirs modified. They are a great amp tone-wise. but do need that extra push.

@joszefrviz398 3 жыл бұрын

Fuck. I had a Marshall JCM 800 combo that sounded waaaay heavier and chunkier than the sound off this video....and that with an old DOD distortion! Something ain't right here.

@davidmg21 3 жыл бұрын

I would add a EQ in the loop to tweak it just a bit more

@michaelvasileiadis5064 4 жыл бұрын

The marshall sc20h or the marshall dsl???

@user-vm6nm3yx3k 3 жыл бұрын

Dsl=metal, sc20 =hard rock

@phantasmagora6542 4 жыл бұрын

Fuck, that Palisades is great.

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

yeah man, that thing sounds sick!

@frunosura 4 жыл бұрын

I think the JCM sounds best without pedals. Just crank that preamp section. I wouldn’t want to over-color it’s natural glory. If I want to boost solos or add a gain stage, I use something transparent, like a clean boost or a Timmy overdrive. However, I am quite intrigued by that Earthquaker. Nice vid.

@andyjm7122 Жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, may I ask how the Timmy fairs for tightening the bass on a jcm800 for metal tones similar to this video?

@harryanderson7282 4 жыл бұрын

Sort of a disingenuous shootout if you ask me. I'm running a Grind into the High input of my Marshall, and am getting heavier tones than that.

@teacher5376 2 жыл бұрын

All the best ?

@timbuk1126 2 жыл бұрын

Need a little more mids. 👍🏻

@thereverendmattyf 4 жыл бұрын

808

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

The Reverend Matty F 909 Kappa

@taroatom4731 2 жыл бұрын

MXR!!

@philarson297 4 жыл бұрын

The savage drive would have got the job done

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

yeah those are sick and I want one! ...but I don't have one and we're not a dealer for them, so I can't use it in videos :(

@aheadofmetal 4 жыл бұрын

For the amount of difference, i would go with whatever pedal is cheapest. Hah

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

NOX AETERNUM haha nothing wrong with that!

@teacher5376 2 жыл бұрын

Same sounds .

@MrGabexhun Жыл бұрын

All sound like an angry chainsaw to me :P

@turnthitchcock8432 6 ай бұрын

1:58 2:10 2:21 2:32

@Juicexlx 2 жыл бұрын

Not the amp for that type of Metal. Marshall are mid boosted. This sounds like an amp mismatched, because it is. You'd be better off with an ENGL (my no.1) or a MESA (other people's choice) for that type of grind Metal

@bexserver 3 жыл бұрын

Pitter patter

@wrcz 2 жыл бұрын

he looks like a slim Nikocado

@christiancordaway2181 3 жыл бұрын

Worst type of play for the 800.Sounds horrific. Where's the ts9 and sd1?

@lookingjust987654321 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry not the same as playing through

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

lookingjust987654321 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕

@amnesie6615 2 жыл бұрын

No difference at all! Do you post process so much that every pedal sounds the same?

@AxePalace 2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@Heka41 4 жыл бұрын

I dont like how you made any of this sound, just my 2 cents

@AxePalace 4 жыл бұрын

Heka41 cool.

@guitarexpert2245 4 жыл бұрын

That's not music your playing. Sounds like one note over and over.

@MrShitfire420 3 жыл бұрын

They all sound like mudd , horrible guitar tones.

@AxePalace 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet, thanks!

@coldbastard6859 2 ай бұрын

That amps eq is set up horribly, way too much presence for a such an already brittle sounding amp. And then to add insult to injury you maxed out tone on the all of the pedals making it even more brittle and ice-picky.