The argument JT is saying is you don’t work this hard to get the same rewards as youth players… youth players need to earn the first team treatment, not get treated it. JT wasn’t demanding he was reminding AVB to keep the youth hungry and earn the rewards

In his interview, Terry pointed out when they were youngsters they had to make coffees, run baths etc for the senior players. It’s about earning your stripes within a club. It’s something we are losing

Martins voice man he needs to bring out a book of bedtime stories its proper soothing 😂

You just don't put academy youngsters in first class while the experienced world class players are left to sit in economy, it's terrible management, fails to make any point. Where is AVB now if he was that good?

With the amount of SLAMMING they do on this show, I’m surprised that desk is still in one piece

AVB tried to be clever and looked stupid

AVB came in with arrogance, thinking he was the next Mourinho, and wanted to cast aside the experienced spine of the team. It was hard to find a player in that squad who was not serious captain material. I don't think there's ever been a squad with more captains in it. They did manage themselves a lot, and their attitude was justified when they went on to win the FA Cup and UCL two or three months after AVB was sacked, and replaced by a P.E. teacher (with all due love and respect to the legend Di Matteo). Big fan of Martin, but he's never had a dressing room as mentally strong as that in his career. He can't relate to the context of the situation.

Context is everything - what O'Neill says about authority and being led is what John Terry describes himself and the other players doing for Mourinho in that interview. Listen to the full conversation. This is about AVB making a mess of things and the players knowing their value and what needs to be worked for. Where did AVB go after this? Nowhere. They were right

Disagree...AVB came with the agenda to kick off the seniors rather than work with them..thr Airplane fiasco should never have happened had Avb reasoned and aligned the seniors before hand...

I remember the irish team going to world cup , flying to saipan and the FAI bigwigs flew buisness class and the players in economy, roy keane went nuts abt it, part of the big fall out

Still waiting for Simon to ask Terry about Wayne Bridge on that podcast

They should’ve asked Martin if he would have done what AVB did and put his senior players in economy with the young players in first class?

Villas Boas was a horrific manager and id argue Solari was better than him. Did just as bad at Spurs. Massive ego who thought he was Guardiola 2.0

If you’re AVB and you make that decision, you have to have the balls to stick to it. He didn’t, and it was just the first of many occasions he showed his poor man management.

John Terry, a real man of integrity 🤣🤣

I agree completely as Terry and Lampard were way above their station...they both thought that they were the club

That's a fight you would've lost. Roman Abramovich had some special relationship with those senior players. He'd choose them over any manager LOL

The players were only aloud to behave that way because Abramovitch allowed it. Terry was all about the team. Just ask Wayne Bridge?

The irony of John Terry suggesting that someone should own what they have said.

I agree with JT Imagine telling Roy Keane or Tony Adams the youth team are sitting in first class while they are in economy

Martin is right, he’s saying if Villas-Boas has made a decision, no matter if it’s not the right one he’s gotta stick with it and not let the players win

NOBODY WOULD DARE TO FIGHT WITH MOURINHO,MISTER O´NEILL

What a pairing Jordan and Terry both up their own asses

Why does every TalkSport title start with "someone SLAMS someone". Hire a adult to write the content titles, does not come across professional at all.

Good on O'Neil to call out Terry on that stupid airplane story. Sounded like the senior players were being belligerent

Simon is so modest he doesnt like to blow hes own trumpet. Especially wen jim white is there to blow him off😂😂

John Terry caused similar problems for England. Trying to get this friends selected and other players dropped.

John Terry calling out disrespect 😂😂🤣😅🤣🤣 you couldn't make it up! Priceless! 🤣🤣😅🤣🤣

AVB losing the dressing room = AVB gets sacked and Di Matteo takes over = Chelsea FC winning the UEFA Champions League in 2012 = JT is a genius

Leaving them at the airport would have made the players look like fools. Grab a seat and sit down or stay behind like spoilt brats, letting your club down. JT thinks hes bigger than the club.

Youth players need to earn the opportunity to sit in first class. That’s the problem with the current generation of young players. They swam around in sports cars and designer gear without having proved themselves on the pitch. JT is spot on here and AVB massively got it wrong! JT came through the ranks at Chelsea scrubbing first team player’s boots and making cups of tea for Vialli. That shows the difference 👌

If you are STILL wondering why Terry will NEVER become a manager, there’s an insight… from the man himself

Andre Villas Boas is the only reason Graham Potter isnt the worst Chelsea manager of all time. AVB came in with plans to be the next Mourinho, he ended up the most pituful thing instead; the only Andre Villas Boas.

AVB was like a primary school PE teacher managing Chelsea

Martin could be a comedian 🤣🤣 his delivery is on point

John Terry just showed why he will never be a manager. Club chairman will look at Terry said, will avoid him.

Well said O'Neil, Terry is clearly a poor human being and he consistently proves that with his actions

Great Leaders do not backstab their manager. No wonder he failed to win anything with england, was obviously too egoistic to actually pull in the same direction as everyone else.

This is why JT has turned into a top top manager 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Love Martin , what a guy , be great to have a couple of pints with him

Brian Clough would have walked off the plane, in handcuffs after attacking the players.

Oneill is a gem

Sounds like a major error by the manager, how do you not recognize that seating young players ahead of veterans is going to create issues. He picked the wrong situation to prove a point.

After listening to JT talk about his defiance of some coaches, I realised then that’s prob why he hasn’t had full team coach jobs. It portrays him as a risky character to coach. If he does get a big coaching job, karma will get him back and players will defy him eventually.

If Fergie was managing Terry...he'd have sat where he was told or he'd have been on Ryanair flight out of Manchester.....never to return

AVB made the mistake of not getting the captains or core of the team onside before even going to the squad day to day

Shows how good a manager Jose was in handling Terry and the dressing t

john terry... i don't like the man... but i totally agree with him on that one. if there's limited 1st class seats they should've gone to the older, established players and the kids and up & comers in economy. it's the kids who need to be managed in that situation not those who have already earned their stripes.

I just love MON... he gave my club some wonderful years (villa) will always have a soft spot for him... great speaker

AVB should have left them.

Jim absolutely loves Martin telling stories. Couple of top Celtic ment together!

10:07 That Robbie Keane transfer was ridiculous.. 20mil! Keane couldn't hit a moving ball. The first time I took notice of Levy and his business acumen. How Keane dares to turn up for Legend games is beyonder..

I actually think ive heard that gareth barry story atleast four times on this show now

any younger listeners who don't know what AVB is, that was a manager for Chelsea about a decade ago. His actual name was Alien Versus Breadeater

Martin Oneill is a legend from belfast. What a manager he was.

What seems to be overlooked is that Posta was appointed late in the pre-season and had only a short period to get a handle on his squad and develope the teams playing style, successfully promoting and developing a mostly young and inexperienced squad.

Jt was saying he could of gone to utd imagine jt telling fergie how its going to go 😂😂

He should've binned them all off. Lampard and Drogba were finished by this point and Terry was a parasite who would put himself before the team every day of the week

If he wanted to put everyone into their place, just put them all into economy.

Did simon ask him if he received illicit payments

Where’s AVB now? You shouldn’t undermine the manager but he was blatantly out of his depth.

I have to say, I don’t even know why AVB would do this? 🤔 no one mentions what his motivation would have been here?

I guess whatever ppls opinion of the situation it all kinda worked out pretty well in the end… we have a saying at Chelsea and it’s 'Villa Boas bad' because the last time we were that bad was during the days of Ian porterfield! Which was a completely different era.

Listen to all these wannabe football managers saying you shouldn't do this or that 🤣

JT was right. Manager is just is a title but respect is earned. These players deserved respect.

AVB WASN'T THE MANAGER WE NEEDED AT THE TIME HE CAME, HE OPTIONED TO SIDELINE ALL HIS EXPERIENCE PLAYERS AND HIS THE spine of that dressing room. THE CHARACTER OF THE MANAGER AND THE WAY THE MANAGER MANAGES THE DRESSINGS ROOM WAS IMPORTANT. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A TEAM OF STRONG LEADERS AND BRING A WEAK MANAGER. IT WILL NEVER WORK. so i agree with Oneil on one hand But on the pther hand he is Also proving Terry Right because He would have left Terry co at that airport, Which would have Stamped his Authority in a different way.. And that was what AVB didn’t have to Manage that dressing Room.. AVB IS A GREAT COACH HIS SUCCESS PROVES THAT HOWEVER HE'S NO JOSÉ OR PEPP.. He can Build a team and assemble a Proper team once he's given the tools(players)...

Id agree with JT over Martin on this matter 110% surprised Martin disagrees atall.

Jt is not the best example of intergrity and great leadership. Unfortunately🙄 listen to that inflated ego Wayne!

All players should've been in economy or the first. If they are in the first team squad. They should all sit together as opposed to apart irrespective of the the class of travel. To put the first team players in economy is ridiculous and unnecessary given some younger players were in first class.

Yes, SJ is right - no one came out of that situation with any dignity

Sorry Stylian you're on your own 😅

Is John Terry deflecting. The players at Chelsea were loyal to Jose and Jose had fallen out with Villas Boas over an acceptance speech that Villas Boas made at a UEFA award ceremony after he had won the treble which included the Europa League at Porto. Villas Boas thanked Guardiola despite working with Jose at Inter Milan and Jose rightly took offense.

Is like saying Gary neville coming into AC milan as manager and putting Maldini, Rui costa and Shevchenko in economy while putting youngsters in 1st class to assert dominance.

John Terry ego just got in the way because he didn’t want to sit in economy ridiculous guy I would have chucked Terry out of the plane

The thing is, JT and the rest of the big names go on to win the CL that season. But in the same breath, the owner paid around 15 million to get AVB out of Porto, and basically the club captain doesn’t give the guy a chance and the owners money was wasted over one plane trip .. if I was Roman and I heard that had happened I would be livid.. there’s a balance to strike between big players and the amount of influence they should have.

Ahhh back when Rafa wanted to to sign Gareth Barry and get rid of Xabi Alonso. Still up there with the absolute worst things I’ve ever heard and changed my view of him to this day 😂

Anyone who saying Terry isnt in the right has never been in football. There is way to make a statement. Try getting the senior pros onside and it will all fall into place.

Terry acting like hes in charge...

Leave John Terry alone!

Doesn’t matter whether AVB is right or wrong, Terry can’t rule the roost over the boss. You don’t take the boss on like that in front of everyone.

Terry was wrong but i don't fully blame him because any other captain who has given so much to the club just to be disrespected by a new manager would have done the same... Respect is reciprocal... AVB was Totally wrong

You learn to serve before you learn to lead

Wow..

I’m with JT on this, absolutely bang on what they did, stupid decision which sends the wrong message to the younger players

Am I the only one that thinks, 1) JT has thrown Frank and Diddier under the bus. 2) A true leader would say, we are a team so we travel together. No division at all. Huge mistake from AVB but this attitude where players override the manager is the reason Chelsea are where they find themselves today..

3:16 if AVB failed at Chelsea because of player power, why did he fail at Spurs?

Jose once said he had an easy job at Chelsea coz he didnt really have to manage the players coz Terry did that

Totally agree, he said that whole interview like he wasn’t an arrogant and wrong moron

Theres a big difference between managing players and trying to undermine players. You cant be a new manager and you want to go to battle with them on the first day. if boas went to man united a put Rooney in Economy and academy players in first class , he would have got the same reaction.

Don’t start a fight you have no chance winning

Agree with O neill

No way you can allow youngers in first class on 13 hour plane flight whilst the stars are in economy

Did Mr O'Neil ever win anything?

When it comes to spurs challenging villa for a top 4 finish and champions league qualification is out of the 2 clubs spurs haven't had the added pressure of playing in Europe all season like villa has!! By rights spurs should be miles ahead of villa due to them having a fresher squad and also having a longer rest period between their games!! When in reality it's looking like spurs will be finishing the season in 5th place unless they win all their remaining games?? With the next 1 against Manchester City who are now kicking into champions mode!!!

True get mourinho on!

I’m sorry but AVB was wrong on that one

martin absoloutely o'neil

Martin please if players need to be managed is that how you do it. Terry's generation were a different batch of players who were matured, disciplined, worked their socks off. You need to show them respect cos AVB couldn't have woked without them. He got it all wrong

Well, worked out in the end didn’t it. Ridiculous what AVB tried to do.

AVB should stick to rally driving