Martinez M1 vs stiletto ti-bone 15

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Callsign MOHAS

4 жыл бұрын

Comparing the worlds two most expensive framing hammers

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@DethPotatoSkinz Жыл бұрын

I had the Stiletto TB-II for about 5 years and I warranty replaced once. It got stolen a few weeks ago along with my daily car and I upgraded to an M-1. It's a beauty and I'm glad to hear you say it feels like the TB-II because I absolutely do not like the TB-III. Edit, outa work because of broken ribs

@chrisfyfe4047 4 жыл бұрын

The replacable heads are a game changer , ditto the dead blow head . The ability to change grips is also awsome !

@luperodriguez8287 4 жыл бұрын

That's dope bro. I just ordered an M4. I'll get it on Saturday. I had the Tibone as well. Handle was slipping off on mine.

@tylersineath 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid man I can't wait to get one. I was thinking about getting the m1 and two heads one smooth and one waffle.

@ibrazeau3044 4 жыл бұрын

I have the M1 and the M4 handles with the M1 waffle and smooth heads and the M4 dimple and Wide claw smooth heads. Obviously, I like this hammer and spent a few dollars to equip it properly. I normally use M1 handle with waffle and M4 with wide claw smooth. I prefer the Martinez over the Stiletto by a long shot but there are two things I loved on the Stiletto... the nail puller side slot metal thickness was thinner and pried nails a little better and, the large hole on the side of the head would let me insert the handle end of wall jacks when they got too high up. I could crank them on the hammer just high enough to not have to use a step ladder. Other then that, DITTO to your impressions. I say same but will add that the Martinez M1 handle grip is slimmer and handle length 2" shorter then the Stiletto and feels much better in my hand. The length difference is better for me anyways plus I can use the hammer to guesstimate 16" lengths easier as well. One caution, I am always careful with the claws of the head because I have seen some reviews of ppl complaining of them breaking. I also saw one review where the handle cracked at the bolt area and it wasn't covered by Martinez or they challenged it. Note that I have seen many many more ppl having TiBone claws break, handles come loose and faces in misalignment or coming loose so I guess there are slight problems with either brand. Stiletto is now owned by Milwaukee Tool, an influence I don't like much for hand tools such as these. One issue I have had is the bolt tends to rust at the threads. I use my hammers in rain and snow and the bolts surface rusted inside the heads. I pulled the bolts out and used a dab of silver grease to prevent more rust. Don't know if the silver grease may affect the titanium in the long-run but I have had them hammers for 2 or 3 years now and no more rust and no issues. Love my hammers and you will love yours I am sure. They fit great in my Occidentals too! Let us know your long-term impressions.

@Kk4lhoe Жыл бұрын

Replace it with a hex bolt boom

@lautenschlaegerlyrical1838 3 жыл бұрын

Is itbetter than the tb3?

@LabiaLicker Жыл бұрын

I wish every video on youtube could be like this

@81Dirtydawg 3 жыл бұрын

The M1 also can be used to tighten/loosen bolts, using the handle slot closest to the head.

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

And it tapers down so it works for a few dif sizes 🤘🏼

@PK-jv8ux 4 жыл бұрын

I thought them holes in the hammer were for tie bars

@peterstevens4223 4 жыл бұрын

Kia ora koutou, from Auckland, New Zealand …

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

I will post an update video on how I like the hammer. things I like and things that could be improved etc.

@woxiduswoxidus1167 4 жыл бұрын

yes, updates are very welcomed! especially comparison with your the first cheap hammer (im sure such was) Framing guru Larry Haun had used unbelievebally cheap dalluge 21oz18inch long 20 usd value.. hammering technique is the key...or tittanium is the only way to go?

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

Woxidus Woxidus i wish i still had my first hammer. It was old vaughn 23 cali framer. I then got a metal bosch anti vibe (worst mistake) witch i still have.

@leesmartin 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparo mate. I'm in Australia and wanting the M4 Martinez, but as far as I'm aware there is only one guy importing them here. I've left messages on their website etc, but still can't get hold of one, even though they're $489AUD

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

Porscheshed oh man!! Thats to much for a hammer. Its cool. But not 489$ cool.

@CaliVapor 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome hammers! I wonder how the Martinez brand hammer will compare to stilettos tb3 hammer? I like the Martinez cats paw design better than the stiletto, but is it worth $35 more?

@kickyourfaceandlaugh607 2 жыл бұрын

I have both the stiletto and Martinez cats paw. The stiletto is somewhat better because the teeth are close together. The Martinez teeth are more separated but it’s cooler because of the side bar puller and the other puller

@mattclarke7894 3 жыл бұрын

How do u compare a hammer you’ve been using for a few years to one that just came out of the box

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

By using it

@MsElijah16 4 жыл бұрын

Hi what is the actual total weight when u put the stilleto Tb 2 hammer on your electric kitchen scales ? My 20 oz goat claw estwing ( most common in nz ) weighs 803 grams ( 28.3 ounces )

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

Elijah not sure. I don’t know what the electric kitchen scale is, but let me grab my industrial size drug dealings scale, and I will have an answer for you momentarily

@MsElijah16 4 жыл бұрын

Callsign MOHAS cool thanks man

@futuretech6744 3 жыл бұрын

What is the function of the cats paw holes. I've never heard of that

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

When you’re using your cats paw to hammer in behind the head of a nail to pry it out some nails can be difficult to pull especially when they’re in laminated beams putting your cats part inside these holes allows you to use your hammer as extra leverage to pry It’s not something I use a lot but when I do need to use it I’m glad this Hammer has the features it does

@zekeisme1 4 жыл бұрын

what about overall weight. which one weighs more over all?

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

fritz inconclusive. The tibone bottom half of the grip was gone. The Martinez was half a oz heavier. I would have to look up the specs on the tibone from factory

@rennie684 2 жыл бұрын

I got TB hammer. but I wonder, is that possible I can put Martinez handle on my TBone as replace? thanks.

@chadwalls4165 2 жыл бұрын

No, handle construction is completely different. Only the face of the head is replaceable on the tb hammers and the whole head is replaceable on the Martinez hammer

@macp349 2 жыл бұрын

A guy I worked with before I heard of Martinez had a Stiletto, he said the handle came loose and he put a Martinez handle on it. Don't think it fit perfectly, but it definitely worked

@derekgailey4432 4 жыл бұрын

Better warranty also..

@jasonhagan1510 2 жыл бұрын

What about the new boss

@resdawgs 5 ай бұрын

But now stilleto has an upgrade.

@stevenfoust3782 3 жыл бұрын

Sure is purty, but my $35 unit does the same job equally well. Two people I work with have those big money hammers and they wear down quickly and the handles disintegrate in no time.

@charliechristian1097 3 жыл бұрын

For daily heavy use a titanium hammer is indispensable, I used one of them $35 jobs for a while but when I decided to get serious about my trade i upgraded and bought the nicest one money could buy, aka the martinez m1, sure saves the elbow during heavy swing, puts down massive power effortlessly, and is guaranteed by a lifetime warranty against any manufacturing defect. So a virtually unbreakable hammer, which can be modulated to accommodate both rough and finish applications, where the rubber handle wear out issue has been addressed perfectly by the updated replaceable grip and head... All in all, for a weekend warrior, $35 dewalt or Hart will get the job done, but for a professional, the martinez is the only hammer that can suffice.

@kickyourfaceandlaugh607 2 жыл бұрын

You’re lying. I have had my m1 Martinez for a year now, it’s been in and out my diamondback hammer sleeve, it’s still good. And that $35 hammer doesn’t drive nails as effortless as the Martinez or not as lightweight. Have fun carrying that heavy hammer with no punch.

@angigriffin3392 Жыл бұрын

I carry a $250 hammer and use a nail gun all fucking day lol

@KC-rk1hx 2 жыл бұрын

Been using a m1 in bridge construction and remodeling for 2 years. Setting panels for parapet I can go through a 50 pound box of 16p duplex in a day. Hammer is beastly to swing and easy on elbows hands and wrists. Just got another m1 handle with a 12 oz trim head on it also. Martinez tool logo earned a spot on my hardhat!

@claytonjohnson2431 Жыл бұрын

that's 4.44 nails per minute working an 8 hour shift assuming 50 lbs I'd 2133 nails.

@codymcgonagill5392 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude that one side of the claw is going to break it's a little thin.

@levro7367 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually designed for pulling finish nails and staples

@iamfoolio34 3 жыл бұрын

I want an update is it still good?obviously it will loose the color to the head but any loose parts did it break or no?

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely right I do I think that’s really change is a lot of wear and discoloration on the head due to the fact that I store my hammer head down in my tool bags instead of using the hook or loop. And obviously from smack and nails the face has shown a little bit of wear but none of the waffling is worn flat like you see with the stiletto.

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

I will make a new video about the hammer in December when I hit the two-year mark

@paulofernandes5328 3 жыл бұрын

Como conseguir um Marcelo desses?trabalhos de carpinteiro aqui em São Paulo (Brasil)comprei um da marca(ubermann) é ate bom de trabalhar mas eu acho ele pequeno

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

No habala spanish homie

@elcomandante9299 2 жыл бұрын

@@callsignmohas5190 it's not Spanish.

@derekgailey4432 4 жыл бұрын

I has ti bone 2 and now have the mtc m1 and m1 is way way way better

@matthewclark5495 3 жыл бұрын

An old coworker told me to never get one because he had to replace the head every 3 months and the price for a new head wasn’t worth it.. told me to get a stiletto to save on money. Bought one changed the Allen bolt to a 9/16s hex bolt grabbed a 9/16s wrench and I’ve never changed or tightened the head since and I’ve never used that thread glue.. had mine for two years and nothing wrong with it..

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

Oh they are solid. Iv had no issues with the head. Same guy designed both hammers. I’ve been using the hammer every day for the past year when i made this video and compared to the stiletto, it’s really a coin toss. The handle eventually came off the stiletto, but some tape used on a base ball bat fixed that 😂.

@ianmcintosh9634 Жыл бұрын

Estwing rules lol and at a fraction of the price had mine 20+ years. To be honest I don’t use a hammer much anymore (does anyone)it’s all nail guns for roughing and finishings.

@callsignmohas5190 Жыл бұрын

Sorry I had to put my hammer away and pull my phone out of my pocket to answer your question and the answer is yes people still use hammers

@morrow.m Жыл бұрын

🤣 of course people use hammers still. And estwing while tough are hard on the elbows and joints long term. The vibration is awful.

@jackfarrell4727 5 ай бұрын

I can spot a crappy hammer a mile away, and there it is.

@541beausham 3 жыл бұрын

I'm having a hard time with it!..I have the fucking OG one! I've never held/owed another that was the same! My old boss bought 5 of them my new boss bought 3 and I've owned 3 myself! All the ti bone 15 and none of them are the same as my og! But here's the problem! 6 years in and it almost doesn't have a claw anymore!

@541beausham 3 жыл бұрын

Ps handle has held up great FYI! Worn thin but still 100% intact

@donc7984 3 жыл бұрын

Your face on your stiletto hasn’t swivel at all ?

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

It did once I open the gap enough to put a very small dab of subfloor glue in between the face and the rest of the head then I used a very long Allen wrench to crank it down as tight as I could. Worked great

@josephlinares96 2 жыл бұрын

Holes for catspaw, never scene that feature

@willlink7820 3 жыл бұрын

Witch hammer is more lighter

@callsignmohas5190 3 жыл бұрын

Both are 15oz

@uhhTabby 2 жыл бұрын

Stiletto is way more balanced. Technically, yes they are both 15oz but the steel head makes the Martinez a lot more top heavy. Arm feels better hitting nails with stiletto versus Martinez which has more vibration (my opinion).

@fradd4045 2 жыл бұрын

Martinez invented nothing he simply made something

@user-us7bv5qx5h 2 жыл бұрын

이런망치는어디에세구입하는가요

@darrellharnack8315 Жыл бұрын

Dude you obviously haven’t used the Martinez yet before you made this. Not to mention it’s the same dude that made them!!!!!

@elcomandante9299 2 жыл бұрын

My six dollar harbor freight hammers bangs those nails in with ease. Does it tighten bolts or has a cat's paw? No!!! I've got separate tools for that task.

@sviolettejr2723 2 жыл бұрын

same guy design both hammers lol

@callsignmohas5190 2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@earlycuyler8719 4 жыл бұрын

So if you're using a steel head, why don't you pay $25 for a Vaughan 19oz California framer with a wood handle

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

Early Cuyler A lot of the times wood handles for break or the head becomes loose and you can only put so many wedges in the top of your hammer to prevent wiggle I guess it all boils down to how hard and how often you use this hammer which is a great determining factor for your purchase.

@mikyarista1161 2 жыл бұрын

Regalame . El martillo viejo ggg

@rogerhale6404 2 жыл бұрын

I can do the same thing with a $40 hammer

@callsignmohas5190 2 жыл бұрын

That is understandable but I can also cook food on a camp stove but if I do it for a living I would like to have a nice commercial kitchen

@TangoKilo-fp8uu 7 ай бұрын

@@callsignmohas5190The thing that’s important here is that in carpentry it is not the tool that makes your skill. I work with guys that will be working circles around you with their 30 dollar Vaughn. The skill makes the tool valuable. Not the other way around. A 40 dollar hammer can do everything that a 400 dollar Martinez can do except it won’t have a side puller. As cool as that is you will still get out worked by a guy with a 40 dollar hammer if you think that bells and whistles like that are necessary to do your job. A specialty hammer is a treat no doubt. But I’ll still take a 30 dollar Vaughn or Estwing over a 400 dollar 14 oz titanium POS.

@user-ew7eg4pv3v 3 жыл бұрын

Подарите мне этот старый молоток:)

@PaulyGuy1 3 жыл бұрын

Etot noviy molotok zdes v Amerike $259

@michaelmaas5544 3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s hilarious how much guys are paying for hammers and are using them less and less

@kevn22 3 жыл бұрын

Better on your joints and health in the long run worth every penny and less weight to lug around with good warrenty for a hammer that last a life time. Buy once cry once

@markcreamer4649 4 жыл бұрын

I've been framing for 42 years, The stilleto hammer is hands down the best I have 4 of them Martinez hammers are garbage pure n simple, it's like fraud copy of the original, He sold out, he's a has been Martinez hammers = garbage!!!!!

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

You do realize they are both the exact same thing designed by the same person? he just left stiletto and started his own thing. Sooooo your argument is invalid

@markcreamer4649 4 жыл бұрын

@@callsignmohas5190 I get that, but hiis new hammers are garbage, you cant beat the original with poor garbage re design

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Creamer using both i would highly disagree Neither are bad hammers.

@markcreamer4649 4 жыл бұрын

@@callsignmohas5190 You have a right to your own opinion , but I completely disagree

@callsignmohas5190 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Creamer You’re right.

@vindictives1 3 жыл бұрын

M1 is trash broke the head on mine 4 times now and 0 on 4yr stiletto the steal head was a mistake on this hammer needs to go back to the drawing board DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY yet anyway maybe when that head gets a new design

@everydaynormalguy9697 3 жыл бұрын

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