"I had high hopes for a no name writer because they did fine on another mediocre title". You can put this Wes comment on an infinite loop because it happens so often.

MJ: Its all your fault Peter for why im leaving you! Because of what Zeb Well wrote! Spider-Man: Wha?! What he wrote?! Zeb Wells: I dont even know anymore.

*I really want a Ben Riley and Kaine Parker Spider-Brothers Series* *It be cool, if Paul was really Mephisto in disguise, in attempts to keep MJ and Peter apart* *I’m from Japan 🇯🇵 and even I loathe this run*

Nick Spencer didn't fail to make a name for himself as Spider-Man writer. At least not due to his own faults. His run was well-written if somewhat overstretched. But in reality, his run was screwed by the higher-ups, because Spencer wanted to undo One more day and was right in the middle of it when Cebulski, Lowe and their ilk stepped in. Man had his own story ruined completely. No wonder he left Marvel for Substack.

if paul isn't dead by the end of the run then so help me

the Gang War in the '80's was so much better.

I'm still shocked that Marvel allowed Mary Jane to date a guy who committed planetary genocide and gave him the Nuremberg Defense to try to justifie his actions. This run has been absolutely dogshit and I'm still not even sure if that describes it perfectly. Glad this run is ending.

Spider-Man died in 2004 and has never recovered.

At this point, I believe that not only Spider-Man, but even most of his supporting cast have all become either bastardized or bland versions of themselves. Peter’s incompetence grows steadily more and more. Mary Jane is a THOT. May is irrelevant. Otto can’t decide whether he wants to be Doc Ock or Spider-Man. Ben Reilly has literally been fumbled harder than I thought feasibly possible. TWICE. Norman is extremely basic and predictable. With their recent fumbling of Hickman’s X-Men, I have lost all interest, and more importantly: faith, in Earth-616, as X-Men has proven to me that character progression is fleeting and illusionary in the main Marvel Universe.

I dropped Marvel a long time ago. This isn't good news. Their greatest character is already destroyed. And Marvel's incompetent writers refuse to fix him.

Spider-Man has been dead since 2007. One More Day/Brand New Day was an atrocity and we'll never see the character actually return until those responsible for his death in 2007 are fired and all those events are rejected from continuity entirely.

I will give zeb credit for one thing he did in his spider man run. He did create Probably the most evil villain marvel has ever created… Paul.

Zeb biggest mistake was trying to set-up a storyline with a weird flashback and then try to explain the events leading to present time. It never quite fell into place and seem very disjointed. I never felt Spider-Man didn’t do anything egregious. The plot simply fell apart. Zeb should have avoided the flashback step-up and trust in his writing skills to start a story from the beginning not in the midddle.

It's going to end with typical Zeb Wells: The Amazing TOMBSTONE will beat Spider-Man badly, then he'll feel bad take pity on him, will come out Triumphant, redeemed and become the Tony Soprano of Marvel. Peter will thank Lonnie for sparing him and admit he always thought of him as the brother he never had. Wouldn't be surprised if Wells pulls this shit, he absolutely LOVES Tombstone, he's like Robert Kirkman's continuing hard-on for Negan.

Does this mean yet another Amazing Spider-Man #1 with 156 variant covers, a New Direction to the Same Old Place and continuation of gutting Spider-Man of absolute everything that made him worth reading? I'd sure hate to think Marvel is going to try something different, like a compelling story with well-crafted art.

The whole "what did spiderman do ?" thing was dumb. He attacked his friends to get the things he needed to save MJ, when all he had to say was i need it for MJ and it would have been cool.

I just asked the guy at the comic book store if he noticed that, like ivy, Spider-Man had devolved into a non-stop slugfest with absolutly NO backstory. Gone: Mary Jane. Aunt May. The Daily Bugle. JJJ. Peter Parker. The book had devolved into a continuous body-blow fight that resulted in Spider-Man getting pummeled into oblivion with his costume being torn to pieces issue after issue with Peter never once sewing it back together but it being magically returned to its full statis with the turn of a page. Spider-Man sprayed thousands of gallons of web for hours on end without every changing a single web cartridge. He had no place to live and apparently no need to sleep. Just fight. And as you pointed out, he became a guest observer in his own book. What a crock! Oh yeah, I cannot even articulate what the hell happened since Zeb Wells first story (mostly because I didn't care and stopped reading the text a long time ago). Looking forward to a new team and hopefully a book worth collecting because of the story and not the pictures.

I am happy this terrible run is over and garbage but marvel editorial with Nick Lowe are still charge who ruined Everything with Spider-Man badly really badly.

This run was awful but it's hard to get excited as i can see them making it worse for the next run ! Don't trust marvel anymore

Too little too late. They should have ended this awful run a long time ago.

His claim to fame was being the least worst X-Men writer at the time. Thats a low bar. 😂

Ed Mcguinness was given kindergarten tales to illustrate, it was pure shit.

I think this run has been a complete disaster but it's not all Zeb's fault, the morons at Marvel refuse to let Spider-man ever marry MJ again and they needed this stupid storyline/ Paul to make sure it completely ruins their relationship after the last writer almost got away with retconning OMD. So pathetic

Congratulations to Zeb Wells for making me not Care even less about In Continuity Spider man than I did during Dan Slott's Run . Which is Not at all .

Omd/Bnd was like a mandate to make Peter Parker a worse character all around and he never quite recovered.

Finally...the nightmare is over.

There's something about the Spider-Man editorial that saps the talent from writers. Wells' New Mutants and Hellions are 2 of the best X-Men runs this century, and the latter was written under Jordan White. It was also in the Spider-Man books that Jed Mackay wrote his worst book, that terrible Mary Jane and Black Cat Dark Web tie-in.

The problem i have with Wells' Tombstone is the fact that it's so clear that Wells copied the characterization from the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon. The problem is that isn't Tombstone. In the series the team wanted to use Kingpin but they couldn't so they decided to use another gangster type of villain from Spider-man's rogue's gallery: Tombstone. Lonnie is supposed to be more of a street gangster, an unhinged maniacal bastard and not a cold and rational mob boss

15 min mark.... go against all of your instincts... had me rolling 😂😂😂

Well the story was terrible for no reason and Romita jr's art is usually a hit & miss. We're tired of these Miserable Spider-Man stories that leads to nowhere.😢

Probably one of the smartest decisions marvel has made in the past 10 years

So glad that garbage is ending. Tombstone was the only one good thing in this run. Everything else sucks in every sense. Ms. Marvel death,Chasm,MJ engaged with Paul,Dark Web,The Gang War and SpiderGoblin. So lame. But who can write a good Spider-man run in nowadays in Marvel?Hickman?Ryan North?Jed Mckay? I'm so afraid that the next writer can make erverything worse.

The worst run, no... but its bad

We're nearly there thankfully. Worst comic book run I've ever read.

While there's technically still time to undo it, if he doesn't his ruination of MJ will overshadow any dumb tombstone story he told. Robbing Peter of any chance of happiness by making his soulmate not actually love him, essentially have an affair, and leave him for another man damages her character to such an extent being ok with Tombstone isn't going to compare.

Let's be honest. We all know the self-insert known as Paul will still exist. I'm pretty sure someone had a screenshot of him in the last Spider-Man game (which sucked) and will most likely be prominent in the next one. Marvel hates their mascot character because they don't want him to be it anymore.

I'll say this about the Hickman run - the first three issues that focused on Peter and MJ and their family were quite good, imo. I didn't like 4 and 5 as much, but those three issues are what I want to read in a Spider-man book, more or less - Peter and MJ together, building a life together through all the bullcrap. They should be the Blonde and Dagwood of Marvel, so whenever I see MJ with another boyfriend (so stupid), it's like reading Blondie dating someone else. The Wells' run was not fun. I tried to read it, and it just wasn't very good. I agree that Romita was wasted - his art doesn't look that much worse than his JMS run, but it feels so much better in that run bc MOST of that was at least readable (not all, but most).

I can't beleive Marvel wouldn't invest money into it's Flagship comic to atrach top-teir writer like Nick Spencer, Jeph Loeb, David Michelinie, Ireally enjoyed his tenure in the 90's created Venom

Zeb Wells was great on Hellions what happen to him

I’m hopping that the next run they at least go back to the status quo on Peter and Mj’s relationship, since it’s Marvel maybe Peter shows some kindness to some reality manipulator and in return he changes reality to before they break up and he erases Paul and his bastard children out of existence as everyone forgets who he was

We can criticize the writers all we want, but until these companies start bringing in new blood that know the characters and actually like them, it’s gonna be more of the same. Same with the editors. Nobody knows the universes anymore.

Peter does not need to get back with mj or black cat put him with someone new Cindy or spidergwen but doesn't matter not coming back until someone new owns everything and reboot everything hard or they have to fix everything and give a bunch of good runs

Let’s just hope that this story arc ends with Spider-Man waking up in his apartment only to her MJ showering. He enters into the bathroom and told Mary Jane that what he just went through in that story, Mary Jane marrying Paul and having kids with him, the Fantastic Four and Wolverine turning against Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel dying in his arms and Spider-Man turning evil, as if it were some really bad nightmare. Mary Jane told Spider-Man that none of that is going to happen since she doesn’t know anything about some guy named Paul.

How I'd give the Z.Wells series "closure:" Who's Paul? Oh, he was a Skrull, and the kids were LMD robots. *"Oh no! Anyways..."*

I think we definitely need to blame JRJR for some of how bad this run is as well. He's an iconic artist, but at this point in his career he might be one of the 10 worst artists doing an ongoing book. If they had a competent artist you might have been able to distract people from how awful the story was, but with him drawing everything about the book sucked

Why dose Marvel keep insisting that people give a rats ass about Kamala Kaugh

The Hobgoblin and Vulture stories were kind of good and fun, too.

I can't read Zeb Wells on anything. His jokes aren't funny and the writing is childish.

It really has been a poor run. I jumped off about 15 issues back, I can't stand my favourite character stagnating and going nowhere with continual poor storylines. Oh for the good old days of the full Spidey supporting cast and all the drama (and growth even) that it gave you. Marvel editorials stance on the whole Peter/MJ thing truly is baffling, especially given DC moved on with Superman and Batman and allowed both to have kids. I do love Ultimate Spider-Man now, and for exactly the reason that it gives you what you want and feels like it has substance. Joshua Williamson I wonder on Spidey, given his DC announcement?

Jed Mackay. His Black Cat was cool, his spidey in the BC annual was good

jeez who can they even get, My dream writer would be greg weisman for obvios reasons, but I would accept saladin achmed if they take the ryan north apporach and just have him do a single story for a single issue.

are they just going back and doing all the worst ideas from marvels history?

The Amazing Spider-Man needs a new editor who will get Peter Parker and Mary Jane remarried. And have a daughter destined to be future Spider-Girl.

Whenever I look at JR Jr. art on Spider-Man, it reminds me how much I miss JR Sr’s art on Spider-Man.

I would put John Byrne's run as the worst Spiderman run

Nick Lowe is the problem. They will bring Dan Slott for the 1000 time or Tini Howard. 😂😂😂

And a collective sigh of relief was had by all!

David Michelinie, pleeeeeeeaaaaase....with JRJr as artist...At LEAST,he will be able to draw a more sensible story.

After listening to your monologue, I'm not hopefull. A broken clock is right twice a day. Marvel seems incapable of being competent once a year.

That you think Marvel will get a better writer or just better... The Eternal Optimist, Wes.

From the mischaracterization,Paul,breaking up mj and Peter,plots points either having disappointing endings or just being uninteresting, and especially the nerfing and making Peter a weak bitch losing to fucking vulture and almost every fight spidey has been in he is constantly almost dying to d-listers when he should be way way stronger he been able to beat a-listers with ease consistently through his history this run will forever be a stain on spider-man’s legacy and I can’t wait to see zeb not be able to get on book because of how dogshit his run on asm has been.

Good riddance! I hated his entire run, the only Spider line I’m buying is the Ultimate line. 😮

Having Tombstone as a main baddie.... dude move on. The spidey books got me back when they put Ben Reilly on the cover, then F'd him over.... just bad after bad.

This run is quite bad. Which is why more people should be aware of "Spider-Man: Shadow of the Green Goblin", one of the best Spider-Man stories in the past 2 decades!

Andrew Maguire. He came and went like a fart in the wind.

I’ve never heard anyone say anything good about this run, I just have no idea what the big 2 are going to do, they don’t seem to be able to get any good writers anymore.

Omg is he is finally leaving, for me it's the worst Spider-man run let's hope they undo all this horrible run

Calling it that the new writer will be Jackson Lanzig and Colin Kelly.

I can't even imagine what it must be like to have read every issue of this run. I'm so glad i hopped off after the 1st arc.

Finally. Some good news.

Awesome work mate

After 25 years of getting Spider-Man, this run made me stop getting my favorite Marvel character. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Sad thing is, I'm not sure i'll come back when the new writer comes on.

Just don't get our hopes up dat Peter and Maryjane will get back togheter.

Thank goodness for Ultimate Spider-Man.

I'm shocked Zeb was never attacked in broad daylight *"Zeb's dead, baby..."*

Im half expecting the final twist to be thst Paul was Mephisto in disguise the entire time....

One More Day ruined everything Spider-Man. Sure there maybe some good stories here and there but it really it gets shun by the bad ones. Marvel's insistence in making Peter single is really biting them in the ass as the character is not allowed to develop. God I hope Marvel realize this and get better crratives and editorial as well.

What the fans aren't expecting is for Paul to get erased by the Ultimate Nullifier, but it is what we're hoping for.

Good job Wes. Reports of your mellowing are greatly exaggerated. Marvel should change its name to Chasm.

Wells was too busy trying to make his version of Batman street level comic stories with gang wars, tombstone… and it failed.

Whooo, bring out the party poppers.

Another fight with Tombstone? Not interested. I hope it’s not someone like Ram V or Jed McKay that picks up for Wells.

Marvel editorial looked at 'BIG TIME' and thought, "how can we go 'bum time'?"

I stopped reading Spider-man after they did Ben Reilly such an injustice. I won’t read any more until his character is permanently redeemed and properly utilised as the hero he is.

What really sucks for me is how perfect hellions by Zeb Wells was. Like people are just going to think he's a bad writer but he made one of the best X-Men books in the last decade

Two and a half years, WASTED ... nuff said.

I might be a fool to hope for the next writer to do better, but I do think the best way to end this run of SM comics would be to reveal that Wells' MJ was never the real one. Either have her killed and revealed to be a demonic shapshifter sent by Mephisto to replace her and make sure MJ and Peter can't have Mayday. In which case Peter has to get Strange's help to go to Hell and save the real Mary Jane. Or could have it be a clone Paul made after the real MJ died in his world amd he originally intended to male a clone to give to Peter as a way to make up for not protecting the real one, only for things to turn out as they did. In which case we could have Peter finally snap on Paul and call him out for everytjing he put Peter through before walking away. Cut to a few weeks later and Peter is visited by Dr. Strange who reveals to Spidey theyight be able to undo everything thats happened recently by going to Hell and finding the contract Peter made with Mephisto and destroy it. Thus undoing One More Day and giving Spider-Man a chance to have his wife back. Maybe give Paul get a redemption arv where he tries helping Peter as a way to atone for his mistakes

Zebs first 20 or so issues should’ve been the leading up to Peter and Mjs marriage and then from there his run should’ve dealt with Peter and MJ starting their new lives together and cool crime fighting stuff.

My Peter Parker is in the backup story of The Amazing Spider Man # 248 from 1983.

I doubt it will end in January It's been mentioned many times that Wells's run could be ending with issue #60, meaning, if true, October will be the final month of Zeb Wells. and the arc will really be issues #56-60, making it 5 issues. and while synical, I REALLY hope this final arc does away with "paul" and bring Peter and Mary Jane together, but I'm really having trouble seeing how it can be done, unless it has something to do with the three skull which we haven't seen yet. and I do have this theory that "paul", to fund Mary Jane being Jackpot, is selling his symboligy tech to criminals, because of what we saw in Gang War, and it will be bought to light during the final arc.

I have another Paul-like figure to remind of: I call him Mary Sue Thug - he had a name, but basically, originally, he was a minor nothing Peter nabbed on his way to marry MJ. Then came OMD and its even more infuriating extension, One Moment In Time (OMIT). No joke - Mephisto as a red pigeon releases Thug and in pursuit, he falls on top of Peter and causes him to miss the wedding. Later on, during the retell of Civil War, he is hired by the battered Kingpin to again try and have Peter shot, only he nearly shoots Aunt Anna, Peter pursues him, the fat dude gets away while taunting, thus driving Peter to do the new history memory wipe. Ugh. I swear, if he hadn't taken over Marvel media for the 2010's and been cashiered out, Quesada would have given this guy powers and made him a regular 'breakout' villian. Like Paul, he was just kind of there at writer's insistence.

Thank god this nightmare is over. Now if Marvel really wants to bring back readers for a new run on Spider-man they need to hire someone like Peter J. Tomasi , Joshua Williamson , Ryan Parrott, Kyle Higgins or Dan Jurgens who can make this recent run non-canon and start from clean slate. But will that happen ? Who knows. Other than that Wes , I don't know if you're a gamer but Capcom just announced Marvel vs Capcom fighting collection which includes all the beat em ups that crossed both companies from X-men Children of the Atom to Marvel vs Capcom 2 New age of Heroes. And what could be better than this ? Oh how about a sweet blood drenched cherry on top of delicious cake. And BTW that particular cherry just so happens to be THE Punisher. Yes , The Punisher is also included in that collection and I can hear millions of Punisher fans screeming with joy and excitement that they can finally play the cult classic beat em up as either the Punisher of the OG Nick Fury.

Hellions was a generally fun book but red flags in Well's writing were present in the way he wrote certain characters even back then.

Everyone hates Paul, but if he was in the Spider-Man 2 video game everyone would love him because we wouldn't have to deal with that version of Mary Jane anymore

You know, if Marvel editorial is going to all of these comically ridiculous lengths to basically make Peter Parker constantly miserable, weak, and alone, then honestly, they might as well just kill him off and make that Paul dude the new Spider-Man or something.

My biggest fear is Peter will be so beat up at the end that paul will take over as spider man

I look forward to every good writer ignoring this run as much as humanly possible moving forward. I didn't think it was possible to be wirse than the post Superior Spider-Man Dan Slott run, but here we are. At this point, I have to give editorial at least as much responsibility as the writer. No matter how good or bad an ASM run might be, it seems that editorial has been at the root of all of the worst things to happen to him since One More Day (arguably since the Clone Saga, but at least they tried to fix things before Quesada had to take his midlife crisis out on the flagship character). Hopefully the new creative team is good, but I'm not holding my breath.

For me it's insane to think that his Hellions run was amazing probably the best book in the Krakoa era period and he's fumbled the ball with the main Marvel Flagship book & I'm more excited for Kaare Andrews Spider-man book who is easily one of the best artists working at the moment

What about Jeremy Adams or Robert Venditti on ASM? I don't understand why those guys don't get high profile books at the big 2. From what I've read by them, they deserve a chance.

Im glad its coming to a close. Id say maybe really think who should take over the book and maybe give 3-6 months for the relaunch.