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You know I just realized something. In the trailers it was implied that Scott would be convinced to work for Kang after he offers him the the opportunity to make up for lost time with his daughter, basically he'd be given the same deal Kang offered Janet. Having been incarcerated and then trapped in the Quantum Realm for 5 years he effectively missed her entire childhood and now he's watching her follow in his footsteps, making the same mistakes he did when he was younger. It would be a much better conflict if Scott had to come to terms with the fact that he missed out on her growing up and that he had to accept things as they were despite their relationship not being ideal. Too bad that isn't the movie we got. What a missed opportunity...

I personally thought the girl who played Cassie in Endgame displayed more emotion, range, and acting potential for the one minute of screen time she has in that compared to Kathryn Newton throughout this entire two-hour movie.

I got so excited when I saw him messed up, arm locked against Kang and saying “we just both have to lose” That was SUCH a great set up for his sacrifice right next. And if he sacrificed himself while Kang survived but injured, that would’ve been a phenomenal ending that woulda almost saved the movie. Then the wasp showed up and they “killed” him. Lame. “But hey, holy sht. They are making both of them stuck in the quantum real as a couple. I’m sure it will lead to a hype comeback with an army -endgame type of stuff “ But then it’s followed by Cassie opening a door super easily. That was, by far, one of the lamest endings I’ve seen on an MCU movie ever

Every time I think to do better, I imagine Sam Wilson's Captain America flying down and shouting " You need to do better" and flies off immediately.

Luis not being in the Quantum Realm is a severely missed opportunity.

Modok was a good chance at a reoccurring antagonist that assists the other antagonists in the future of Marvel but of course they killed him.

I find it odd they had enough time to show Jimmy Woo, Baskin Robbins, and an Old Dude calling Scott "Spider-Man" in the opening montage but just straight up refused to show us Luis (+ friends) and Cassie's Family. Looking ahead in the MCU timeline, I don't see any place where these characters could show up so I guess we'll never know what happened to them during the Snap.

I just want to be excited again for this. I remember when almost every mcu movie felt like an event leading to something bigger, and you couldn’t wait to see the next chapter. I never thought that I’d just not care much anymore due to the writing becoming poor, CGI being bad, weird/bad decisions and terrible characters. To Disney, Marvel is like Star Wars now since Endgame was so huge. Just a name that can make them money, so they make whatever. No need to use big characters to sell movies, That marvel studios logo is the character lol. At one point I thought I was losing interest in cbm’s in general. But really, it’s just the mcu. I’m looking forward to so many more comic book adaptations that aren’t marvel now, and hoping the ones that deserve it get them.

I’m still waiting for Luis to recap the whole Thanos situation. I want so badly for his voice and paraphrasing to come out of Thanos and Tony and Thor and everyone, and I’m still so disappointed that he hasn’t been around in so long :/

I thought it was really fun and epic how Hank has always had this fascination with Ants since the first movie and in this one he had the opportunity to lead an army of giant super tech Ants that saved the day.

I kind of thought in this film either Antman was going to die fighting Kang or he was going to end up trapping himself and Kang in the Quantum Realm to prevent him escaping. And I figured Cassie and the rest of the crew would pick up the slack for him while he was stuck in the Quantum Realm doing exploration stuff. And maybe every couple of months Luis would get on one of the communication devices and give Antman one of his trademark summing things up recaps of what's going on in MCU or the Antman crew outside. I think the marketing for 2 of the trailers made Kang seem like a way more lethal character that was going to be a menacing threat to not be messed with. But no, unfortunately. Majors was still good as Kang like you said, would've just liked for him to do more and leave more of an impact. I was hoping Antman would've faced some kind of lasting consequences due to fighting Kang to just show he's a different kind of threat than the past bosses he's faced. (one of the example ideas of consequences I had was either getting killed or really damaged as a result or getting stuck in the Quantum Realm which would keep him more isolated from his kid that he's been trying to connect with.) I thought it was way too easy for Antman and the Wasp to get out of the Quantum Realm at the end. Better than Thor Love and Thunder definitely, but definitely not what you would've wanted to start off the next big phase of the MCU. But hopefully Loki season 2 is good.

Kang should’ve had his own movie. I know he’s getting Dynasty but a villain story would be so dope

When Kang had his speech on Scott’s inability to beat him and said “You talk to ants” I was waiting for Douglas to come over the radio and say “No that’s my thing.” And unleash is antmada but it was just a cut to him on the other side of the battlefield.

These films might have been called the Ant and the Wasp, but they have always been the Luis films. Without him, there was nothing left worth of watching.

1 thing I was hoping they would explain that never came up was did Thanos' snap cause half of all life in the Quantum Realm to disappear for 5 years or were they somehow immune from this since they are outside of the rest of the Universe?

This movie is like expecting steak and getting a bag of stale candy

I honestly think one of the biggest issues is that James Gunn got fired at the exact wrong time. He was gonna lead all of the cosmic stuff, and now after the last two Guardians projects he’s officially out. It feels like Reed, Waititi, and Zhao were given direction from people who just weren’t Gunn-level focused on what the cosmic end of this universe looked like. Waldron got it but ultimately his choice to make Wanda the villain immediately and do fan service hurt MoM, though Loki was completely marvelous. I think what needs to happen is a distinct shift from trying to replicate James Gunn’s style and more towards what Rick and Morty S2-4 did so well. Get that heavy sci-fi in there but never lose sight of ground-level comedy. James Gunn did that very naturally but when you try to replicate it, it becomes Phases 4-5.

This is why they need to hire better writers and take more risks what they did with moon knight and werewolf by night need to be replicated.

Now that I saw the Council of Kangs, it makes more sense. It's still wonky, but everybody was complaining why are all the Kangs freaking out? I took it as they were all excited to be there, seemingly the first time they had all been assembled together for one mission. At least, that's how I took it. As I said, I can see why people thought the scene was wonky.

Honestly when they announced Peyton Reed who didn’t see this coming? I was hoping he’d turn a Watts and make an impactful and dramatic wrap up to the franchise, but….

I really liked the first 2 Ant-Man movies, so I was pretty excited to see this (it's actually the first MCU movie I've seen since No Way Home lol), to say I was dissapointed is an understatement

Good or bad films to follow, Majors is gonna be very interesting to watch. He's gonna be Atlas holding the world up if this continues to meander

Just got out of the theater from seeing it and was so hyped to see a capt midnight video waiting for me, thanks cap

Honestly, after GOTG Vol 3, I may be checking out of the MCU altogether. They’re just not as good or fun as they used to be. And it just doesn’t feel encouraging to me to go when the only laughs I’m getting are unintentional.

I feel like they could have A)Have Scott stay behind close the portal and die. At least to show that KANG won’t lose to a single avenger after killing countless of them apparently. B) Had hank stay behind and suit up one last time and sacrifice himself. You get to see the original ant-man in action and it provides at least a major character death to fluff up KANG THE CONQUEROR. C)When Janet says “it’s over” Kang just looks at her and says “Does it matter? I just wanted to see how hard he’d try. Then simply bring Scott back to when he was in prison using his machine that Scott so graciously fixed. And proceed to give Scott exactly what he wants leaving both him and Cassie in those cells ending the movie. They don’t die and they can have a good part in dynasty. I don’t know anything other than Derek and seven ants bullying the destroyer of universes.

No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness were the only things in phase 4 I was interested in. I just don’t care for the MCU anymore and it seems more people are starting to wake up to the mediocrity.

The plot armor is what did it for me, literally the entire main cast were never in danger and were in fact invincible to any of the weapons used on them

MODOK is now officially the most wasted MCU character of all time and you can't change my mind.

The best part of Kathryn Newton's casting is that the MCU now has multiple actors who've played Amy in Little Women

The first Iron Man and Phases 1-3 of the MCU CANNOT BE TOPPED!

Imagine if the entire MCU was as good as Iron Man 1. 🤯

Everything was heading towards INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME Now the MCU became one big bubble, ready to burst

Luis going in and being the everyman in the QR sounds amazing dude, just for the recap at the end.

I don't think Evangeline was miscast. She bounced off Rudd well enough in past films. She just doesn't ever get enough to do.

Johnathan Majors acting is phenomenal.

Would have been a fun arc for kang to basically force scott into fighting wasp, hank and the others to spice up the story.

Thank you for being honest! It's such a breath of fresh air from all the other channels who are die-hard Marvel apologists. The MCU's luster has faded fast and Disney Marvel needs to do a major overhaul ASAP.

Cassie in this movie is a little bit of a Mary Sue character. She managed to rally the entire Quantum Realm into fighting against Kang, convinced a villain to turn into a good guy, and learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds to open the portal back to Scott and hope. Not once did I think there was a sense of danger when everything was going well for the good guys.

I actually loved it, but I do also think you brought up some good points here, especially on Luis. Really hope he shows up again soon enough. On the other hand, the mid-credits scene with all the Kangs, I thought that was soooo cool!

I understand every point you made here but personally I really enjoyed the film. It wasn't amazing, and in a lot of ways disappointing, but I left the theater feeling good about it. While I love Pena's performances in the previous films, I didn't miss him in this one (that said, an after credits scene with him would've been way better than the gathering of the Kangs one we got). I felt that just having the ant-man family for this adventure was perfect but not quite executed as well as it should've. There was a lot of room for them to explore the relationships between Hank and Janet, Hope and Janet, Scott and Cassie, etc. which never happened. I dunno, I can see why people don't like it but I still feel like it was a fun film despite it's flaws. Maybe my opinion will change on a second viewing.

I really loved the 1st Ant Man, it's my favorite movie of Phase 2. That being said, I kind of wish it had just been a single movie

Wasp did almost nothing The 3 wombats cut from the film MODOK getting the Taskmaster treatment Bill Murray was just there Kang defeated instead of winning Not a great start to phase 5

I’m probably the only person not impressed with Kang. How can you build up a villain if he’s different with each appearance. That was the worst part of Thanos in Endgame, as he wasn’t the “real” Thanos who won in IW. Wasp was completely wasted. Hopefully she gets Disney+ love.

Just saw the movie last weekend, my thoughts are: - Why is MODOK the only character to get an arc? - I literally at the end said "Oh right they're a couple?" when Ant-Man and the Wasp kissed. - I feel like the movie moved at such a breakneck pace that you barely had time to have any character moments or learn anything about the world. Like they heard the criticism that these movies are more like theme park rides than cinema and just decided to run with it. - Who approved the MODOK design? - Why would they set up a perfectly fine character arc with Cassie telling Scott he needs to get involved in conflicts because they're the right thing to do, not just because he has a personal stake in them, and then abandon that by having her get captured so that the only reason Scott gets involved is because the stakes got personal? - Isn't the way Scott escapes from the quantum realm in the first Ant-Man by equipping one of the 'Enlarge' discs to make himself larger again? Implying that you can just escape the quantum realm by getting bigger? But then that never seems to come up as an option here, even when we see that Janet had some of the enlarging discs in the quantum realm while she was trapped there. - Why does Cassie still get sleepy from growing big during the ending fight scene? Aren't they still subatomic? Or at the very least in a place where normal physics/spacetime doesn't apply? - Man, given recent events they might be regretting leaning so heavily on Jonathan Majors now (depending on what evidence comes out) - Seriously, who approved that MODOK design?

Why did they cut Louis out. He was so fun in antman 1 and 2.

It's kind of an interesting comparison to think that this movie is starting off the 2nd major arc in the MCU films while we got Captain America for the first one. What is a little bothersome for me is how low the bar has been set by the media to enable them to declare the movie is a success and box office winner. It took a long weekend for it to make about the same as a few of the previous films did in a regular weekend, and now it's projected to drop 65% percent week 2. I think the fatigue is real.

Well thanks for your point of view. I really want to thank you, for putting your sponsor at the end of the footage! Thank you so much.

You think this is bad? Wait till you found out that Marvel has assigned the writer of Quantimania to write The Kang Dynasty and the writer of Multiverse of Madness to write Secret Wars. Oh dear, massive red flag 💀

Not even joking, if Louis isn’t there, I’m not watching. His recaps are essential to the Ant Man films.

Just watched it today and I loved it, had a lot of fun. Excited to see more Kang in the future

I'm not gonna lie, I actually quite enjoyed this movie

I totally missed that phase four was a phase on its own.

no one really celebrates the first brick to be laid in a building, but they marvel (no pun intended) at the building as a whole... Im hoping thats the case here. I would like for the story of the incursions to be done well. I guess we will have to wait and see.

This was supposed to be Kang's "Guardians of the Galaxy." The movie that turned him from a cameo in a TV show/end credits scene into a looming, oncoming and terrible threat to everything, and made us excited for what was to come when he finally got up off his chair in the cosmos. In that regards, it failed for me completely. Thanos' presence and more-so his sheer will for conquest throughout guardians of the galaxy, while mostly off-screen, was CONSTANTLY felt. Kang? He had a few good scenes, but when he wasn't on-screen, he might as well have not existed. Hell they barely even said his name for the first half of the movie...

What MCU need right now is to backup the proverbial truck into the Daniels drive way. They know how to do multiverse stuff.

I wonder if Pfeiffer plays finding out about Kang like her finding out about her husband in What Lies Beneath.

I was glad they cleaned out the dead wood characters. The mom and her new husband, the comedy sidekick gang. I never liked any of them or understood why people loved the comedy sidekick characters so much.

I was surprised by the ending, in Loki Jonathan Major's fear and insanity compells you that he is a danger and Janet's scenes with him are of the same element (Michelle Pfeiffer deserves an Oscar for breathing) I honestly thought that we would see Kang escape and in the mid credit the Council of Kangs being slaughtered bare handed I was surprised how comedic Kang turnt, his portrayal was so serious and life threatening I don't speak about Scott's story arc but I would have loved wipe the smile off Ant-Man (not talking about killing him) The whole movie is Kang being serious and Scott making jokes, fire and ice, opposites

I've never been a fan of the Ant-Man movies, glad you're gave an honest review!

Seeing what MCU has become, man I feel so desperate in seeing Edgar Wright's original take for Ant Man. I guarantee it would've been a far better movie than what we got (eventhough I do like the first Ant Man movie)

I hated that Cassie had to be yet another casual genius in the MCU, creating "a hubble telescope in the basement" when you had an established genius and expert in the field standing RIGHT THERE! (Oh, but he 'helped' lol) Seemed like the story should have focused on Janet but they didn't want the movie led by someone over 60.

As somebody who usually tries to give the MCU more slack than the rest of the internet, I have to say that I'm genuinely afraid that Disney is going to run this franchise into the ground. They're too damn greedy for their own good. All the problems of the MCU can be traced back to the studio executives rushing things out the door and hammering their CGI workers for the sake of appeasing their do-nothing corporate shareholders. This is what people mean when they say that capitalism is the enemy of art. Anything profitable will inevitable be squeezed dry by craven callous money-grubbing people who never think about the long-term consequences of their demands.

i liked the film overall but you definitely make some good points about its shortcomings. 👌

1. Why would a time traveler bother using lasers to kill someone he could just erase? 2. I wish the missing/recast characters had an in universe explanation related to what it would really be like to fight a time traveler. 3. Kang never demonstrates any real time travel. He’s essentially an easy to beat stock villain.

I thought antman three was pretty good and my second favorite of the Ant-Man films. I'm out looking for every MCU movie to be an all-time classic. I came I saw I had a really good time and I will watch it again when it releases streaming

i feel like this entire movie set up for scott to die, or at least (apparently the original ending), would be MIA from the MCU for an indefinite amount of time. like, come on. Fits thematically, Cap's line "We don't trade lives" was pretty iconic, so right out of the gate needing to trade lives to defeat 1 of many Kangs would've been nice. And for Cassie, the entire movie was her getting a crash course on becoming Ant-Man, I thought her being the one to thematically bring Darren back from the dead, and convince him to help defeat Kang was a nice touch, but none of that got expanded on in a meaningful way.

When I heard you mention halt and catch fire I freaked out😩 man that show is so underrated

About the 'volume' - or Virtual Production is what it's called, I recently went on a short course and a few of the guys and gals worked on this film. If you want future movies ruined, do not continue reading... Basically, it's impossible to recreate the sun in a VP, so you'll notice that every VP scene or setting HAS to be in overcast lighting - or early morning or dusk (like the skyscraper The Batman scenes) House of the Dragon bridge scenes are also a good example of this - for better or worse. All of the tattooine mando scenes were filmed outside (where possible)

So one of the most capable villans that marvel has goes up against the mighty ant man and wasp, yep think I'll give this one a miss as well

As a marvel junkie, this Movie had me falling asleep.

Are you going to make an episode about the future of Rick and Morty now that roiland mucked up?

I think the one thing this movie finally confirms for me it’s that while Marvel may have a plan, it’s not as fleshed out as they’d like us to believe. This is especially apparent by the always changing cgi, it’s clear that things are changed and swapped around like it’s nothing and that’s something that really bugs me when it comes to filmmaking. When I saw Bill Pope’s name came up in the credits and I was surprised because this did not feel anything close to a veteran who’s shot some of the most amazing films.

I didn't even realize this was the start of phase 5...

I hate how there's a scene when he's trying to talk to his daughter after she'd been arrested an he just gets bullied for it and told he's wrong

I enjoyed this movie. I think Paul Rudd is funny. I enjoyed the interaction between the main cast. The action was fun and visually interesting to watch. Majors gave a great performance and I’m honestly more excited for up coming MCU movies then before I watch Ant Man.

I think this film could have done with a rewrite to involve the side characters (scenes showing them missing Scott and Cassie, trying to get them back would have done it) and set some higher stakes (again more scenes on the surface might have helped us fear Kang getting out) and especially the heist aspect. It could have actually worked if Hank and Janet were left behind as she has all the knowledge of Kang so when Scott and Hope (much earlier in the film than we actually saw) agree to help him steal the thing Janet had hidden away there’s more drama. Similarly we can see the characters left on the surface start to fall out and argue amongst themselves for more drama. Hope could feel more involved especially as she can solve clues Janet may have left behind that Scott alone could not because he doesn’t have that relationship with Janet. Also not sure how I feel about Scott only helping Kang because he was blackmailed, I think I would have preferred it if he made a genuinely selfish decision (as the trailers gave the impression, that can’t have just been me?) because Kang offered him time with his daughter. While Cassie is helping the rebels he is working to release Kang until he realises his mistake and joins the fight against Kang giving up his selfish desire and just deciding to help these people and accept that he needs to make the most of the time he does have with Cassie and the rest of his family But what we got was fine too I suppose

You know, this entire saga could be fixed if in Kang Dynasty there's a plot twist that Love and Thunder, She-hulk, and some other MCU movies from this saga turned out to take place in other universes other than the main universe. It would make those films better and more accessible.

I thought parts of the movie had potential, like the initial visuals in the quantum realm were gorgeous. Scott getting stuck in a giant pile of Scotts was something I had hoped they’d do, cuz in real quantum physics you have superposition of states. But when they defeated KANG with a big grey space battle? I was so disappointed. And I even turned to my boyfriend and said “well now they can just use Kang as the villain in every movie and just say it’s a different Kang.” And sure enough, that’s what the end credit scene was.

I've been arguing with many online because they don't understand. I came up with a simple thought experiment to explain our frustration. Imagine if, instead of Kang, it was Tony Stark... given the time and resources, would Tony have lost to Antman, Wasp, and smart ants. Obviously not... so why have us believe Kang would.

I loved the movie! The only problem I found was that Kang lost at the end. I feel like he should have at least killed a few side characters to show his ruthlessness. It would have been great for him to have killed Angeline Lily

Kang. RULES. Whatever good this movie has, is entirely to his credit.

I had low expectations and I came out enjoying it.

Ant Man 3 is the sequel to Loki, a show most people didn't watch, and it is also the prequel to Loki season 2, a show most people are not going to watch.

I really enjoyed the first two Ant-Man films and thought that they were all very solid. However, this was the first time I knew going in that there was going to be a HUGE shift in tone that was completely different from the first two films, and it showed, especially with Michael Peña and Scott's other friends being completely absent. It really sucks since they were some of the things that I enjoyed so much about them. I still had a decent time with this one but I really hope that Guardians Vol. 3 will make up for a weak start to Phase 5 since this just didn't do much for me, other than Jonathan Majors as Kang

I don’t know what everyone was watching but I thought this was a great start to Phase 5. Kang’s storyline was great and potential impacts on the whole world seem unlimited. I really think they are taking the time to show where everything is going and I think it will be way crazier than Infinity War and Endgame were when every movie comes together. I guess if you really wanted a solid Ant Man centric story I could see the disappointment, but as an MCU movie I thought this was insane. I also thought the CGI was really good, not sure why there was so much hate.

I just watched it and I gotta say it was pretty decent. Maybe my expectations were just low because of all the reviews but I enjoyed it.

Whilst I still had fun with the film and thought it wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be, I still think it could have been a lot better. Kang losing at the end and the happy ending with Scott hanging out with his family just felt off and unrewarding. Yeah you could have had Kang “lose” but he takes out a main character to set him up as a threat.

Marvel should have had Phase 4 build up to a smaller Avengers movie that could have been used as a starting point for the buildup to Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. I feel the Multiverse Saga so far is suffering from having its only proper interconnected crossover movie be the next Endgame-type event at the very end by having to hijack regular releases like Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness to give exposition to the wider story instead of focusing on the next step in their characters’ self-contained arcs.

Fans enabled a lot of the phase 4 meandering in the face of criticism and this is what they’ve reaped

This movie really ruined kang for me. He way more intimidating in loki. Here bro was getting smacked around by ants. Is really the big bad of this new saga? And wasn’t this kang also supposed to be the strongest variant? but now he’s dead

I’ve walked out of theaters disappointed, upset, sad, but I have never watched a movie that filled me with such a sense of rage. The only time I wasn’t actively considering walking out of the theater was when Jonathan Majors was on screen

Volumetric stages require immense prep work if you want a good result. Cameras, lenses, and backgrounds must be carefully synced if you want to achieve a result comparable at all to a physical set. Not a great fit for a movie with so many reshoots and rewrites

I liked the first movie but the second one was incredibly forgettable to me. I couldn't for the life of me remember any plot points of the second movie.

Kevin Feige needs to pass on the reigns to someone else. the Feige era is over, it time for a new approach

U summed up my thoughts exactly

As far as tone goes, I would honestly say this movie’s done it better than most as far as balancing comedy and drama.

It’s like they set out to make Cassie as unlikeable as possible

I’m tapping out of the MCU after GOTG 3, I might watch Deadpool 3 though.

The problem with this slate of MCU movies is simply they don't feel like they are building up to much. Kang is a decent choice I suppose in terms of a followup to Thanos. But the problem is... that first couple phases of the MCU were building up to the infinity gauntlet story. It was punctuated with Avengers movies which, at the time, was really surprising seeing loads of heroes onscreen at the same time. This set of movies doesn't have the Avengers... and if it did it wouldn't have the version people were excited about. It just feels like one of those periods in comics when not much is going on and there are lots of individual comics telling fun stories but it's not one of those periods where much coherence was found in them. There's nothing "Wrong" with the MCU. It's a series of movies based on comics. But sometimes, in comics, there isn't much going on and they just don't need to be tied together.