Marvel Super-Heroes #12 (Captain Marvel)

Marvel Super-Heroes #12 (Captain Marvel) - Atop the Fourth Wall

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Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara begins Secret Origins Month with Marvel's ORIGINAL Captain Marvel!
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Originally released November 10th, 2020.
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: The first appearance of Captain Saturn!
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@benreilly9513 3 жыл бұрын

"Activate the Aura of Negativism!" "Yes sir! Initiating playback of Cinema Sins!"

@venicethehedgehog4122 3 жыл бұрын

ahh fuck cinema sins

@katecastreviews4639 3 жыл бұрын

@AT Productions "Activate the Aura of Negativism!" "Yes Sir! Commencing 'Captain Marvel is Garbage and Here's Why'! Will be sustained for 2 hours."

@alexandersturnn4530 3 жыл бұрын

@@katecastreviews4639 Only 2 Hours? I guess that Reviewer didn't hate the Movie all that much then...

@BlackGoldSaya 3 жыл бұрын

Cinema Sins is not real. They play it for the views. Same as Nostalgia Critic, AVGN etc etc. Even Linkara mugs it up. Its a show, not a real critical review.

@PrincessAshley972 3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackGoldSaya wow, thanks captain obvious!

@thomaspalazzolo5902 3 жыл бұрын

"I shall Americanize my name! I shall henceforth be called... Marleen Quinvel!"

@carlrood4457 3 жыл бұрын

Marvel alone has had SEVEN Captains Marvel (not counting alternate universes): Mar Vel Monica Rambeau Genus Vel Phyla Vel Noh Varr Skrull who believed he was a time travelling Mar Vel Carol Danvers

@andrewgwilliam4831 3 жыл бұрын

The ringed planet logo on his chest presumably means he's a Lego Space minifig.

@stevekoller3314 3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, I always thought about that, too 😂

@wcapewell3089 3 жыл бұрын

Hows benny doing? Helmet still cracked i presume.

@FillmGeekOfDoom 3 жыл бұрын

SPACESHIP!

@larrylaffer3246 3 жыл бұрын

@@FillmGeekOfDoom SPACESHIP 🚀 SPACESHIP!

@lastlife0726 3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Gwilliam or Clan Fett. Or both!

@Caernath 3 жыл бұрын

Linkara: "I guess I owe Greg Land an apology -" Me: "No, nobody owes Greg Land an apology."

@andrewgwilliam4831 3 жыл бұрын

If he wants an apology, he can always copy one from somewhere. 😉

@FCHenchy 3 жыл бұрын

Don't be like Captain Marvel. Wear a mask in this strange Earth atmosphere.

@sinvector8020 3 жыл бұрын

Silver Age Comics: I must narrate everything I do!

@colonelmustang854 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much.

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

Aka: The Space Ghost School of Exposition.

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

@@DefinitelynotBatman I tried reading issue 2 of the original X-Men series. That example was strong enough to put me off completely.

@qwellen7521 3 жыл бұрын

The sad truth is that Mar-vell’s most enduring story beat is him dying of cancer and not coming back.

@pious83 3 жыл бұрын

His son Genis didn't fare much better. Going crazy, dying and not coming back.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

@@BigK13372 Yeah, that's what pissed me off so much about the MCU take on Mar-Vell: all the crazy adventures and battles he had were swept away, and instead we had a (former) soldier who's casually gunned down by the antagonist so Carol can get her oh-so-great powers. I mean, darn it, we aren't talking about The Ancient One in Doctor Strange, who basically _was_ a living macguffin, Mar-Vell was his own character with his own history! It'd be like if DC decided to make a Flash tv show, but used the Wally West Flash and Barry Allen is just some random police scientist who accidentally helped Wally get his powers before being killed off. No long history between the Flash and the Rogues, no final heroic run to save the universe, just casually shot and killed. I remember that one comic where Thanos used the Reality Infinity Gem to bring Mar-Vell back to life as a test of its powers (he thought about using it to simply _force_ Death to love him), and Mar-Vell convinced him that even if the Gem did let him do that, would he really be satisfied with basically the love of a puppet? To be honest, that's really what killed the MCU for me. The Captain Marvel film's take on Mar-Vell felt so clumsy, (spiteful, almost), especially when compared to how the MCU refined the origin stories of most of the other heroes.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@muhaoai4693 The 90s Flash show sort of did that. They made Jay Garrick into Barry's older brother who was there to get killed and inspire Barry to become a Superhero. As for Carol and Mar-Vell, they didn't want Carol to start off as someone else's sidekick/love interest and only after become a Superhero in her own right. They wanted her to be her own person from the start. The problem is that in the comics she WAS a love-interest sidekick who eventually became a superhero. So when it came to making a movie about her, that was always going to be a problem.

@pious83 3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 Yeah but there were other ways to do it. Not throwing Mar-Vell's legacy under the bus just to push Carol.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@pious83 Not really. Carol's gaining her powers is tied to Mar-Vell and Yon-Rogg.

@fluffywolfo3663 3 жыл бұрын

"There've been, like... _eight_ Captain Marvels." --The Captain, Nextwave

@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын

I keep forgetting about the Skrull and Marvel Boy

@darkhelmet87 3 жыл бұрын

Linkara: the billy batson captain marvel, screw calling him shazam I like to compromise by mentally calling him captain thunder myself

@johnnygyro2295 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Especially since saying "shazam" both triggers and reverse the transformation. That's how Back Adam was defeated when he first showed up.

@ToHoldNothing 3 жыл бұрын

I swear I heard Captain Thunder somewhere, not sure if it was the DCAMU debut of Shazam where he was thinking of a name or maybe the DCEU where they had some silly names We could call him Captain Shazam, no copyright infringement there, right?

@katsand92 3 жыл бұрын

My compromise is referring to Billy as "The Big Red Cheese"

@mitchfletcher2386 3 жыл бұрын

Same! Captain Thunder is an epic name!

@DarkfireTaimatsu 3 жыл бұрын

Some might say 2020 has an Aura of Negativism about it entirely...

@JRedNose 3 жыл бұрын

Must be malfunctioning then; I can still feel it :/

@meganmartin3373 3 жыл бұрын

I imagine an "aura of negativism" is a kind of energy field that makes people think "aw, geez, I really don't feel up to looking over there right now..."

@ajclements4627 3 жыл бұрын

A perception filter like in DW and Torchwood maybe?

@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын

You think "Mar-Vell" lacks subtlety? Carol's Kree half-sister is genuinely named "Lauri-ell". Apparently, she was worth retconning Carol's heritage.

@thetruewisegamer 2 жыл бұрын

Lauri-ell cause she worth the retcons

@SegaNintendoGuy64 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome everyone to the 10th anniversary of Secret Origins Month.

@Davethe3rd 3 жыл бұрын

Wait... Really?

@customercareskeleton 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I hated it (it being the reminder of my mortality implied in the ceaseless grinding of the wheels of time, as my bones become dust)

@SegaNintendoGuy64 3 жыл бұрын

@@Davethe3rd Yep.

@SegaNintendoGuy64 3 жыл бұрын

@Darth_ Madara Well he had started Secret Origins Month since 2010.

@Moonbeam143 3 жыл бұрын

Now I feel old.

@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын

It’s ironic that half the cosmic characters and objects that sprung from Mar-Vel’s creation ended up being more popular than him. Even Ms. Marvel.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

If I remember right, it's also Mar-Vell's battles with Thanos that elevated him from 'just another villain' to "we need multiple movies to build him up, just so people are appropriately impressed when he finally shows up in person". This is also part of the reason I hate the MCU take on Mar-Vell, so, so much. I despise when characters get gender or race-bent, especially when, as in Mar-Vell's case, it was apparently done really, really late in the filming and supposedly simply so that MCU Carol wouldn't have a male mentor. It just felt like the writers couldn't be bothered to find a way to at least _hint_ at Mar-Vell's comic history. I'd have been fine if instead of Mar-Vell, Carol's mentor had been Phylla-Vell, using the name Captain Marvel to honour her long-dead father or something.

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

I recently read Ms. Marvel #1 with Carol Danvers and has more connections to Spider-Man than Mar-Vell. The villain is Scorpion, she has to rescue J.J.J., Mary Jane Watson and her photographer boyfriend make a short appearance, and Carol even says the same thing Spidey did when he settled on his name: “It’s as good as any”.

@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын

@@JaelinBezel Well Carol's post-Air Force job was running the Daily Bugle's version of Ms. Magazine. It was the 70's...

@johnnygyro2295 3 жыл бұрын

@@muhaoai4693 I could see Phyla-Vell being the Captain Marvel of an alternate MCU. She takes up the mantle to honor her father, who may or may not be dead by that point, and take on Thanos, the one foe said father couldn't defeat. At least not permanently.

@powerist209 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnygyro2295 Well, we see Mar-Vell but she's a woman in MCU (granted you say alternate MCU). Though consider that Skrulls can technically change gender, and Tigra's child is considered Antman's kid due to Skrull who impregnated her having the same DNA as him. I mean Metabaron did it.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if Linkara reads comments these days (I honestly wouldn't blame him if he didn't), but RE: the Kree Sentry, it was some ancient but extremely powerful guardian robot the Kree left behind on an old outpost (since they'd previously visited Earth but left after concluding it wasn't worth the hassle of conquering). The Fantastic Four accidentally ran into the Sentry and managed to defeat it, but it managed to send out a warning to the Kree homeword. Because the Sentry robots are supposed to be almost unstoppable, that got the Kree's attention and they sent Ronan to punish the ones who dared destroy Kree property... and once Ronan got his ass kicked that's when they decided to send another team (the one that included Mar-Vell) for a more subtle, careful approach. You know what the best part is? The Skrulls initially gave up on invading Earth after their initial attempt was foiled by the Fantastic Four (dismissing it as a backward, unimportant mudball), but when they got word that Captain Mar-Vell, a big time war hero, was being sent to Earth they figured Earth _had_ to be important if the Kree were *that* invested. So the Fantastic Four repelled the Skrulls, pissed off the Kree, defeated the Kree representative, the Kree sent Mar-Vell to investigate Earth, and the Skrulls decided their old enemies the Kree had to be on to something if they sent someone as decorated as Mar-Vell there. I also remember this because the bit with the Kree Sentry was adapted in the 90s Fantastic Four cartoon, and specifically I remember the Kree Sentry sinking into the lava as the FF left. It was sending the warning to the Kree, before giving its designation number as it died (or at least went off-line). It was a very striking image.

@Snake4985 3 жыл бұрын

They also kind of adapted it for the cartoon 'The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes'

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

@@jlev1028 Well, to be fair if I'm not mistaken this was back in the "Jack Kirby draws _everything_" days, so you can't fault him for using similar designs for what was probably thought to be a one off "giant robot". Plus, while the Sentinels are most famously at least two storeys tall, the Sentry robots are usually 'just' maybe about 10 feet. Though I have to admit when I saw pics of that giant robot in the Avengers game, I actually _did_ think it was a Sentinel. It's...er... actually one of the things that turned me off that game, since I figured "oh, they're using Inhumans as a substitute for Mutants, and they've got a Sentinel analogue. Guess there's no X-Men in this universe, just Avengers-related characters. And of course it's based on the MCU. Hard pass."

@cameronedwards4893 3 жыл бұрын

The FF piss off two alien empires got one to give up the other to punish for property damage and got the earth a alien war hero for their troubles. While repissing off the first alien empire. Comic books are too well connected for their own good.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronedwards4893 Hahah. This was in the old days as the Marvel universe was still in its infancy. Plus, to be honest since what the FF did were such big deals to the alien empires in question (uncovering and defeating the Skrull infiltration, defeating not just a mighty Kree Senty _and_ Ronan The Accuser), of course they'd sit up and take notice. Plus, the Skrulls and Kree were at war, so naturally when one side shows interest in an apparent unimportant mudball, of course the other side starts thinking, "What's there? What're they up to? Whatever it is, we need to find out/take it for ourselves."

@foreverred97 3 жыл бұрын

@@painvillegaming4119 I think it's a different kind of Sentry.

@bowenorcutt78 3 жыл бұрын

I could see "Doctor Comcast" being the name of a Venture Brothers villain.

@nonspiderweb 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like we need to start making a list The COSMIC CUBE can do: Anything The Beam Blaster can do: Almost Anything The Infinity Gauntlet can do: ????

@jesusmora9379 3 жыл бұрын

the ultimate nullifier can kill anything

@jonathaneilbeck2263 3 жыл бұрын

The Hotel: Trivago

@twilightman2816 3 жыл бұрын

Rob Liefeld can draw: practically nothing.

@jesusmora9379 3 жыл бұрын

Batman can beat: anyone with prep

@skyslasher2297 2 ай бұрын

Everythingb

@LunarSpiral1127 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Mar-Vell deserved better in terms of popularity, cause of how underrated he is. He has stories that are pretty good, but his best one was apparently him dying of cancer.

@skyslasher2297 Жыл бұрын

I accidentally red that as Marville that serious has caused too much irreparable damage.

@diegocamacho6477 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the idea of a double agent as a superhero is a pretty cool premise.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

@@jlev1028 And he wasn't even _planning_ on posing as a superhero. He was doing actual infiltration work in his guise as Walter Lawton. It's by sheer chance that he was forced to reveal himself in his Kree battle uniform and the humans accidentally overheard him being identified as "Captain Mar-Vell", leading them to think he was a superhero ala Captain America.

@1monki 3 жыл бұрын

It was a neat idea, but they didn't really explore it. He would try to help the humans without giving Yon-Rogg evidence that he was helping them. But mostly, his stories were repetitive and often involved fighting robots.

@9Maciej 3 жыл бұрын

8:00 .... is ... Captain Mar-Vell flying by using his own farts?

@qwellen7521 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. You’d think the writer/editors would’ve noticed it.

@Spiderkeyblader 3 жыл бұрын

That's a strange super power

@rna151 3 жыл бұрын

Humans have made remarkable strides in their study of the atom but their woeful lack knowledge of fart-propulsion makes them the laughing stock of the cosmos.

@1monki 3 жыл бұрын

The art in this book was a little off in places

@Tbm998 3 жыл бұрын

“I pledge to be faithful to you Una”... Hulkling would like a word about that...

@ArticWS 3 жыл бұрын

Una was looooooong dead by then, to be fair.

@jrcarter9175 3 жыл бұрын

@@ArticWS Besides, it was Princess Anelle.

@Dalenthas 3 жыл бұрын

Mar's got 3 kids counting Teddy, none of them with Una. Though to be fair Phyla was created by reality warping powers not the usual method....

@allanolley4874 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dalenthas Note Genis and Phyla were conceived after the Death of Captain Marvel using Titan science and Mar-Vel's "DNA" and borne by Elysius of Titan Mar's wife at the the time he died. Phyla did not exist in the original timeline but due to shenanigans in which Genis-Vel rebooted the entire universe a new timeline was created where Phyla existed, but in that timeline she was created by the same process as Genis. On the question of Mar's faithfulness to Una. While Una still lived there was a little bit of a love triangle between Mar, Una and Carol Danvers and so yeah I think Mar fails to be completely unwavering in his commitment to Una.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

@@allanolley4874 Heh. Mar-Vell would claim that his apparent reciprocation of Carol's advances was just him playing along (since at that point he was kinda sorta accepted as a superhero), but still. And to be fair, Mar-Vell would carry that guilt for a long, looooooong time. Off the top of my head, it's at least part of the reason why he and Carol never went anywhere (not to mention him spending more and more time battling the likes of Thanos in space, plus him inadvertently ruining Carol's career), and partially why it took him so long to admit to his feelings for Elysius since he still felt guilt over Una.

@eman2863 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty accurate first appearance with Mar-Vell, showing that he was a real hound dog. Seriously, dude has a handful of kids, each of them from different mothers.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair some of those kids were posthumously 'born' without any of his... shall we say, input? And he never even knew Princess Anelle of the Skrulls was pregnant from their one-night-stand (while she was helping him escape the Skrull homeworld, no less).

@DarsiPadilla 2 жыл бұрын

@@muhaoai4693 That was just lazy writing.

@kramermariav 3 жыл бұрын

I have my own "Aura of Negativism"

@thatonea-hole 3 жыл бұрын

I think everyone has an "Aura of Negativism", depending what kind of person that they are!

@kingofthegundam7974 3 жыл бұрын

The dialogue reminds me of an episode of Hercules The Animated Series where Thesseus, who was a Batman parody called "The Grim Avenger", was monologuing out loud and seemed utterly surprised when Hercules called him out on it.

@adrianlangen6700 3 жыл бұрын

Still not tired of the cosmic cube joke? Me neither.

@Ice-Climber 3 жыл бұрын

It's weird not seeing the Kree with blue skin.

@Mask0fFate 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently there are a small number of Kree whose skin is pink. Although if you knew that already, then in the words of Marik Ishtar, IGNORE ME!

@dvader518 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mask0fFate Some even have brown skin (such as movie Korath).

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

The Kree have a variety of different skin tones. ....You know, like humans do?

@ShadowKnux372 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that Linkara sees fit to make sure that a classic character gets their time to be seen and looked at for Secret Origins rather than skipping them over if their successors ended up being more popular (or infamous depending on who you ask) like Captain Marvel here. It's a good testament to making sure history gets shown, since it's likely the heroes that carry the title now wouldn't exist, at least not in their current form, without this guy, even if he wasn't all that popular over all. Plus, I just dig looking over the more obscure and older stuff in comics. The Golden and Silver Ages have such a charm to them.

@jamesadamsfl 2 жыл бұрын

He did skip over the Golden Age Black Widow, but then that character has literally nothing in common with Natasha Romanov except a codename. Even Mar-Vell serves as the reason Carol Danvers was invented.

@justanotheranimeprofilepic Жыл бұрын

Dito on the gold and silver age of comics having a certain charm. Despite being born around the end of the dark age of comics I didn't really enjoy comic books until I read silver and golden age stories

@lightyearpig12 3 жыл бұрын

The Captain Marvel name has got to be cursed somehow. First Fawcett got into all that legal nonsense, then Mar-Vell died from cancer and now we have all the controversies Carol is the center of.

@EmeraldBlack-up6xi 3 жыл бұрын

Just now noticed Jude Law's character from the movie is in this (he's the guy in the blue).

@atlanime 3 жыл бұрын

Carol Danvers is the SIXTH Marvel character to use that name, and the THIRD female one!

@polartechie 3 жыл бұрын

"Mar-velle" oh God Mar-ville flashbacks. I mean not God, anything but, Satan help

@linbatspiderprime6202 3 жыл бұрын

"A gigantic robot or something?" yes a very big one which took one hell of a beating.

@Azmodeus87 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was almost on the level of Galactus mini-bot (can't remember the name). It took all of FF an entire story to put it down.

@Azmodeus87 3 жыл бұрын

@@SodaPopBarbecue Wiki tells me the Ultimate uses Punishers. 616 Galy only use the one Punisher, it seems. So.... Yes but yes?

@metropod 3 жыл бұрын

Fourth or fifth? Carol is actually the seventh. Mar-Vell, Monica Rambeau, Genis-Vell, Phyla-Vell, Khn'nr and Noh-Varr all came before her.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

Sort of. Carol was around almost as long as Mar-Vell but she just didn't take the name until 10 years ago.

@metropod 3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 I mean, unless Lewis would like to correct me, the interpretation of that sentence I’m working with is “she is the fifth or fifth person to take the ‘Captain Marvel’ monicker.” Which, again, isn’t completely accurate.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@metropod Yes, you're right about that.

@1monki 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on who you want to count, but yeah I count seven--including the Scrull. He was pretty cool

@ajclements4627 3 жыл бұрын

Danvers is the seventh CM. In July 2012, she assumed the mantle of Captain Marvel in her first ongoing series, one of *many* she’s had since then, including two limited ones.

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet! Secret Oranges Month!

@bendewalt5560 3 жыл бұрын

Considering linkara once reviewed the "captain citrus" origin once uopn a time...this comment is doubly funny

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem 3 жыл бұрын

@@bendewalt5560 I remember. That comic was actually better than it had any right to be!

@Targisvear 3 жыл бұрын

We need all the vitamin C we can get this year, dude.

@Rixec2 3 жыл бұрын

Man, amazing to think back on this issue and where it would all ultimately lead for those related to the Marvel name, like Carol and Kamala. Looking forward to what I presume is the Wally West origin next week!

@gagecrawley6223 3 жыл бұрын

I’m actually really glad you covered the original Marvel’s Captain Marvel, Linkara. And I do agree. This story isn’t as impressive, but I still appreciate that you covered it. Because I do believe that talking about the Mar-Vell Captain Marvel is important. Thank you. 🙂

@aaronbourque5494 3 жыл бұрын

Besides, the first appearance of Carol Danvers would be the next issue of Marvel Super-Heroes (and this story and the next was originally MEANT to be a single issue, but got split up because of behind-the-scenes shenanigans).

@sammcguire3798 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I was almost expecting you to wait to cover these in a retrospective just because all the Marvel Captains have such a large history. Even if you were just covering Mar-vell, Monica, Genis-vell, and of course Carol it'd be great.

@johnnygyro2295 3 жыл бұрын

A Captain Marvel retrospective would be cool. Maybe with the title Captains' Chronicles?

@darylchurch2115 3 жыл бұрын

Oh! That'd be great!

@Anthintendo 3 жыл бұрын

MF Enterprise’s Captain Marvel: The final evolution of DC’s Arms-Fall-Off Boy!

@richiem5112 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see videos about short lived characters like him, Matter Eater Lad, Splat. Some of them are so odd or random their very concept alone is worth talking about. If he starts working on it now he should something by 2023.

@Anthintendo 3 жыл бұрын

@@richiem5112, well AFB is going to be in The Suicide Squad (SS2), so maybe he’ll be more relevant then.

@kaicreech7336 3 жыл бұрын

Kree Sentry 459 was a robot armed with a bomb that could destroy the planet. It was in A:EMH

@Pinkanator 3 жыл бұрын

You know, usually I consider myself pretty knowledgable about these first appearances, but damn have I *never* seen this outfit before. Always thought Ultimate Captain Marvel looked kooky, but it's kind of a nice update in hindsight.

@brianskelly4979 3 жыл бұрын

I always found it weird how long it took them to give the Mantle to Carol... especially when they kept giving it to people with no relation to Mar... or people whose powers are not even similar to his...

@rodimusrider8798 3 жыл бұрын

the two before Carol were Mar-Vell's son and daughter

@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын

Well her Ms. Marvel tenure was pretty popular so they just kept the name and lighting bolt one-piece.

@Pineappolis 3 жыл бұрын

@@MysteriousTomJenkins Was Noh-Varr ever Captain Marvel? I feel like he was but it's possible that I'm being Kreecist and getting him mixed up with Genis.

@Dalenthas 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pineappolis Noh Varr was Captain Marvel in Dark Avengers, where despite his extreme douchiness he was still one of the least evil people on the team.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was part of the reason I was initially so, so excited that Carol Danvers took up the Captain Marvel name, since she _knew_ the original and all. ... Then I found out about how Carol has been written _since_ becoming Captain Marvel, and now all is ashes in my mouth.

@BartmanBegins 3 жыл бұрын

5:05 Or maybe he was supposed to be the mascot for the Sega Saturn before being replaced by Segata Sanshiro.

@lonewolf6884 3 жыл бұрын

Without this comic, Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel) probably wouldn't exist; so I'm very thankful for this comic

@myriadmediamusings 3 жыл бұрын

As a fellow Kamala fan, yeah I suppose in a weird roundabout way this comic can be one of the reasons to thank for her eventual existence.

@ianr.navahuber2195 3 жыл бұрын

@@myriadmediamusings has Kamala Met Mar-Vell? I heard she did but it wasn't a flattering first meeting

@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын

@@ianr.navahuber2195 I mean it was in a sexist fan-fiction storyline, so that's non-canonical in-universe.

@ianr.navahuber2195 3 жыл бұрын

@@benwasserman8223 what do You mean?

@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын

@@ianr.navahuber2195 Oh there was this issue dedicated to Kamala reading fanfiction and one storyline had her take up Carol’s mantle only for Mar-Vel to return and encourage her to pursue more feminine duties. It was.... weird. The ending of the article was hilarious

@GuessWho7197 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this origin story for Mar-Vell is pretty slow and boring, though I still think Mar-Vell is a really underrated character. Jim Starlin's run on the series was awesome and I find it so irritating how people dismiss the character as the worst character to hold the mantle of Captain Marvel.

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

I know, right? I mean, in-universe he's still remembered as a great hero, and unlike the modern version of Carol Danvers (especially in storylines like Civil War II) he actually worked really well with people, he made mistakes (and could admit them), he was an actual character.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@muhaoai4693 Why do people keep going after Carol for Civil War 2 but everyone forgave Tony for Civil War 1?

@harlannguyen4048 3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 That's because Tony was dealt with a lot of crap following Civil War 1. Hell, after Cap's death, he went to his grave and said that if he could take it all back (siding with the Pro Registration team), he would it it meant stopping his death. Carol though? She never felt any real remorse or consequences for her actions. At the end of Iron Man 2020, she casually apologizes to Tony for basically killing him and he accepts it.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@harlannguyen4048 She apologized though. And it was hardly the first time Tony died and came back. Plus her actions in CW2 weren't really as damaging as Tony's nor did it result in villains temporarily taking over the US.

@harlannguyen4048 3 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 That last statement was sarcasm, right? 'Cause Hydra took over the US following Civil War 2.

@BartmanBegins 3 жыл бұрын

16:31 So... first appearance of Wally West? Also, concidentally, I've read the first appearance of Captain Mar-Vell about a month ago, without even knowing you were going to cover said first appearance this year.

@legoking6165 3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for a look at the first appearance of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

@layton1362 3 жыл бұрын

8:10 No, it doesn't. Earth has a weaker gravitational pull. You switched this one up.

@leemcdonald1342 3 жыл бұрын

Shazam!

@kingsadvisor18 3 жыл бұрын

Uploading at 3:30am Central US time? Linkara knows how to cater to his audience of depressed, sleep deprived college students

@myriadmediamusings 3 жыл бұрын

Am pretty amused at this long, varied and needlessly convoluted history of the name “Captain Marvel”. I recall back in Justice League Unlimited and the Billy Batson Captain Marvel. Naturally as a kid I had no idea what the deal was with the name. Nowadays I am pretty happy that the name has stuck and been given to a character Marvel can do lots with, even if some people go overboard on the utter slamming of Carol Danvers.

@ianr.navahuber2195 3 жыл бұрын

i think is only Carol Danvers MCU self who receive slam this days. her earth's mightiest heroes serl was cool. her super hero squad self was fine. the avengers assemble cartoon carol was.... forgettable, then again almost everything in that cartoon was to a degree. and her Marvel anime self was unambiguously declared as "top tier waifu". and her comic book self is currently fine, no longer hated (only her jason aaron self, whic is like aaron rights his own self-contained marvel universe in the avengers book), as her solo book so far is doing mostly well. nothing massively remarkeable, but not screwing up either

@mightyfilm 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what the deal was with the copyright, if there was some loophole that they could keep calling the character Captain Marvel, as long as none of his comics or media ventures would have that title. He had 2 shows in the 70's (one animated, one live action), both called "Shazam," yet was still called Captain Marvel. Freddy Freemont was still called Captain Marvel Jr. But they've used that name until very recently. Batman: The Brave and the Bold still used the Marvel name, as did Young Justice. Every appearance around the time of the movie, his appearances in Teen Titans Go and Lego DTV projects calls him Shazam. Actually, I find it funny the movie danced around this, but at least in the Lego Shazam DTV movie they make an "it's already taken" joke.

@brandonlyon730 3 жыл бұрын

@@ianr.navahuber2195I remember her getting a lot of slam during the second civil war comic event. Then again Civil war 2 was never much loved to begin with.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonlyon730 Funny how no one stayed mad at Tony for Civil War 1...

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

@@SodaPopBarbecue Monica is going to either be Photon or Spectrum, not Captain Marvel.

@OnDavidsBrain 3 жыл бұрын

Marvel's Space Suit and Space Weapons are brought to you by the fine folks at Spacer's Choice. "You've tried the best, now try the rest, Spacer's Choice."

@widdershins3785 3 жыл бұрын

"Hear this, Space Warrior! Space-succeed or Spacedie!" "Oh no! My spacehour is up! I must put on my space helmet or I'll REALLY space out!" *Cut to 90s Kid* "Spaaace!" /quietly but epically air guitars Linkara: "Do you even know what space IS?" 90s: "No. Do I need to?"

@KonElKent 3 жыл бұрын

I'll be cold in grave before I call him "Shazam"!!

@DawnOfTheOzz 3 жыл бұрын

Next week is Wally West, The Flash? Hells yeyeah!

@Valdagast 3 жыл бұрын

11:50 I think he's inflating his chest as a mating gesture.

@johnoneil9188 3 жыл бұрын

Alrigt, time to head out. Let me put on my space pants and get into my space car so I can drive to the space supermarket and buy some space pizzas for dinner.

@CharginChuck 3 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean space dinner?

@HORRIOR1 3 жыл бұрын

IN SPAAAAACE!

@TheSkully343 3 жыл бұрын

Why stop there? Lets go out and fix your computer's spacebar while going to a Space Bar to drink Space Beer and eat some Space Nachos.

@koyinproductions9053 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to get some Spaceys.

@realrealwarpet 3 жыл бұрын

awww, linkara got me a gift for my birthday. and its a secret origin of my favorite character....admittedly, its not the version of the character that is my favorite, but Mar-Vell is a cool character. I wonder if he's back from the dead yet. probably not, Carol is still captain marvel, last I checked.

@D.G.M. 3 жыл бұрын

2:13 "...to insure that DC, and no one else, would be able to use that title for a book." You mean Marvel, I guess?

@Joseph_Drew_III 3 жыл бұрын

There will only ever be two real Captain Marvel’s: Mar-Vell and the Amalgam Comics one

@eamonndeane587 3 жыл бұрын

As Iconic as The Red and Indigo suit for Mar-Vell is, I actually prefer his Ultimate Marvel costume (the One that was used for Avengers: EMH).

@mightyfilm 3 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one thinking Captain Marvel is essentially who Buzz Lightyear thought he was before he found out he was a toy? Like, only played incredibly straight?

@GoneFishingAmalgam 3 жыл бұрын

10:22 Yes, like the man said, reconnoitering. How else would you do it? XD

@BS-nw1qr 3 жыл бұрын

Been looking forward to it this time of the year.

@cyechan50 3 жыл бұрын

I hope Someday you cover the The Death of Captain Marvel.

@trowa9960 3 жыл бұрын

The original captain marvel is one of my favourite characters. I became interested in him mid 2000s when I was first really getting to comics and often heard references to captain marvel as this great hero within Marvel continuity. As much as I enjoy the character, he is better off a dead character who lives on in legacy. Genis-vel on the other hand, Marvel needs to bring that guy back! Dead for over 15 years which is forever in comics.

@L1701 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t mind seeing Genis meet Carol. I don’t think they ever really interacted in the comics, and I can imagine at the least he’d want her to tell him about his dad.

@RintyRine 3 жыл бұрын

Took a long hiatus from your channel and I was so pleased to see you are still producing such quality content. I started watching AFW when Iwas 13 and you really helped me get into comics (though I mostly collect golden age DC and graphic novels) Thanks for everything you rock!

@Roserae16 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone else find it crazy that Marvel Comics, when scripting their Captain Marvel movie, actually used an adaption of the first appearance of the character? It's just, I don't know, I would have expected then to start from scratch or use a newer storyline? DC comics, imo, seems to always be trying to forget or recon their past, but it feels like Marvel embraces their roots more - and while nostalgia can be a double edge sword, it's just refreshing to see a comic company not shy away from their origins, even if they were goofy.

@cameronlapage7386 3 жыл бұрын

Let's see... Billy Batson got his company sued. Mar-Vell died of Cancer. Monica Rambeau was a major Avenger before changing her name and fading into obscurity. Genis-Vell died a horrible death (and gave us Marville). Phyla-Vell briefly held the role but eventually turned evil and died. Noh-Var didn't realize most of his teammates were supervillains. Carol Danvers was successful until Bendis turned her into a violator of civil rights and ruined the character's reputation. Maybe it's time to stop naming characters "Captain Marvel."

@user-mj4rp9gg3i 3 жыл бұрын

"Carol Danvers, the more popular Captain Marvel" Wow, I'm so angry already.

@AT4W 3 жыл бұрын

What? She IS more popular than Mar-Vell. Possibly more than Billy, honestly, because she actually HAS the name and it's used for her in the movie. Name recognition counts in pop culture.

@bluespaceman7937 3 жыл бұрын

Today? I'd say so. Historically, the DC-owned character was obviously ahead but he hasn't been big in decades.

@user-mj4rp9gg3i 3 жыл бұрын

@@AT4W well, it's a question of what one means by "popular" probably. Thanks to the movies Carol i certainly more recognizable, especially among the non-comcs audience. But I've personally never seen anyone call her their favorite Captain Marvel or favorite character, it seems like no one cares much for her (and her personal sseries not stucking seem to support that assumption). So I don't feel like she's popular in terms of, well, being liked.

@SHINOBI-03 3 жыл бұрын

Lewis refusing to call Captain Marvel "Shazam" is just like how I refuse to call the baby green alien "Baby Yoda".

@Krendall2 2 жыл бұрын

8:11 You got it backwards. The Kree planet has stronger gravity than Earth. If Earth had stronger gravity, it would have made Mar-Vell weaker. 8:33 Actually, what he's saying is accurate. However, it would take at least weeks, if not months, of being in Earth gravity for his body to adjust to it like that. 11:45 Somewhere, a young Rob Liefeld takes notes.

@mattwo7 3 жыл бұрын

1:15 Advice Norton did not recieve when creating Norton Fighter, local toku hero of Akihabara _well_ before the Akibarangers showed up (I am not making this up)

@Agamemnon2 3 жыл бұрын

Activate the aura of negativism! Is a fantastic phrase.

@Azmodeus87 3 жыл бұрын

Go go, Gadget twitter toxicity!

@FixTheWi-Fi 3 жыл бұрын

Luigi in Brawl.

@Darkgreenfangirl 3 жыл бұрын

I never has much interaction with this version of Cap Marvel, aside from his death. A little lack luster of a opening for a character, but at least in it's shortness it gives you something quick to do. You deserve to take it easy sometimes. Great episode as always

@japanrocksgousa 3 жыл бұрын

Just love your content, gotten me through more than you could imagine this past decade, and I'm just glad it still gets views and stuff. Keep going. And have lani on more he needs more practice with his acting

@1monki 3 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of Sci-fi Captain Marvel. The suit is interesting as is using alien tech to create his super abilities. Both working for and against the Kree could've made for some interesting stories. But Marvel didn't really explore that. Mostly this era of Captain Marvel was marked by repeated fights with robots. And for a technologiclly backward civilization, 60s earth sure could make advanced robots for Mar-Vell to fight.

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

1:21 Is it sad I loved hearing Lewis say that?

@Alucard-A-La-Carte 3 жыл бұрын

A ship that's really pessimistic about its chances of landing sounds like a creation from Warren Ellis or Grant Morrison. And I'd probably read the entire run in one sitting...

@kylepeters8690 3 жыл бұрын

Old sci-fi like this is always kind of funny to me. The aliens almost always look like humans but maybe with different color skin or random stuff glued to their heads, all the laser guns look exactly the same, everything needs to have space, galactic or laser in it's name lest we forget the aliens are from space (then again when they look like that we might) I just find them funny.

@Nekokittybird 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if it's just me, but I now have a habit of looking for El Corona hat which brings doom to all in the patrons section like a 'Where's Waldo?' dealio.

@TimothoNuva 3 жыл бұрын

There are too many "Captains" among superheroes. Unless they are the captain of a ship, or held the rank of captain in the military (like Captain Atom), they're not a captain!

@funkyweapon1981 3 жыл бұрын

What about Captain Crunch?

@muhaoai4693 3 жыл бұрын

In this case, Mar-Vell actually _is_ a captain in the Kree battle fleet.

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

Does Billy Batson count?

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

@@SodaPopBarbecue I thought the name Captain Marvel Junior was dumb. Why not Lieutenant Marvel??

@JaelinBezel 3 жыл бұрын

@@SodaPopBarbecue But in The Power of SHAZAM! Freddie was the second of Billy's siblings to get the power after Mary and she wasn't using Lieutenant in her name. It makes extra sense for Freddie since he calls his power by shouting CAPTAIN MARVEL and so can't say his own name when he's powered up.

@DavidJoh 3 жыл бұрын

He was that radioactive? Geez, he could get cancer you know.

@ianr.navahuber2195 3 жыл бұрын

YES! ON SCHEDULE THIS TIME (If it is uploaded in Tuesday, it counts) 0:50 who is that guy Clive?! 1:19 Funny enough I am among the last people who met Billy Batson as Captain Marvel, thanks to the Young Justice Cartoon. during the time Carol was still Ms. Marvel. 2:57 thank you. especially because Carol has both as "secret origins" her first appearance as Ms. Marvel AND THEN as Captain Marvel

@Djinsin 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Captain Marvel! The guy who would eventually indirectly lead to the creation of Marville

@Djinsin 3 жыл бұрын

@@jlev1028 during Peter David’s run on the series, Bill Jemas made a bet with him about why the series wasn’t doing so well and that bet became a thing where they released new series. David relaunched Captain Marvel (and won the bet), and Jemas created Marville. No matter how you look at it, Mar-Vel is why we have Marville

@deltaprime3509 3 жыл бұрын

Great video dude looking forward to the next one with Wally west.

@MichaelSmith-fq6hz 3 жыл бұрын

Captain Comcast can't be worse than Captain U-verse: AKA history's greatest monster.

@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS 3 жыл бұрын

what?

@MichaelSmith-fq6hz 3 жыл бұрын

In the intro he jokingly referred to a Captain Comcast, saying such a character was a villain. I joked that Captain Comcast couldn't be worse than Captain U-verse because U-verse, in my opinion, is the worst internet company I have dealt with.

@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS 3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz ho thank you now i understand

@johnnygyro2295 3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz For a second, I thought you were talking about Captain Universe.

@CrazyBuffyFan1 3 жыл бұрын

Yaayyy, my next favorite month after October! Although, really, the last 3 months of AT4W every year are my favorites. :D

@jeremyusreevu237 3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Secret Origins Month is back!!!

@twilightman2816 3 жыл бұрын

2:38 That's Monica --- the little black girl in the "Captain Marvel" film (who is also the not-so-little young black woman that you may have noticed in the preview for "Wandvision" ----- remember, the "Captain Marvel" film took place a few decades ago) 10:28 It's some sort of -- Wait!! It's not a bird! It's not a plane!!! It's ---- Hey!!! SHUT UP!!!! Ya wanna get sued????? (How ironic--- seeing as though they wrote a comic about a hero called "Captain Marvel")

@lazyuniverse4932 3 жыл бұрын

*FOR THE COSMIC CUBE CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!* Just don't ask it to divide by zero

@RobertKeilOK 3 жыл бұрын

But it is saved by zero, though 😁

@lazyuniverse4932 3 жыл бұрын

@@RobertKeilOK I tried to think up something funny since he mentioned the mighty *COSMIC CUBE!*

@bigjake360t 3 жыл бұрын

Fans: Do the next one. Linkara: I don't wanna.

@brendakrieger7000 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing the cats in the background

@koneheadcokehead4981 3 жыл бұрын

YAY IT'S SECRET ORIGINS MONTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@XX-sp3tt 3 жыл бұрын

1:24 Come Hell or high water, that is one thing on which we shall always be kin.

@taintedscholar5044 3 жыл бұрын

Captain Saturn is also a pretty good hero name.

@JenMistress 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, last week was kinda crazy for everyone I guess, in their own ways, so doing a short one like this is totally understandable. Also, guess Marvel got so excited about getting the name Captain Marvel, they even decided to copy Superman's It's a bird, it's a plane. 😉😂 But seriously, I did enjoy this. Thank you.

@the4thwallkid132 3 жыл бұрын

Overall there are over 9. Captain Marvel's in existence: 1. Billy Batson (now called Shazam) 2. Freddy Freeman (Who took on the title after infinite crisis) 3. Roger Winkle (From a knockoff superman story from the 40's) 4. Mar-vell (The first Marvel version of Captain Marvel) 5. Monica Rambeau (otherwise known as Spectrum) 6. Genis-vell (Mar-vell's son) 7. Phyla-Vell (Genis-vell's sister) 8. Noh-Var (From the Dark Avengers series) 9. And finally Carol Danvers (Ms. Marvel) Edit: Did not know about Phyla-Vell, and forgot about Noh-Var and Freddie

@ianr.navahuber2195 3 жыл бұрын

who is roger winkle? is the captain marvel with deattacheable limbs?

@the4thwallkid132 3 жыл бұрын

@@ianr.navahuber2195 Surprisingly yes