The real buff here is that small trees will no longer disable itself whenever an update happens.

Virgin common civ: pay gold for most blacksmith upgrades Chad Spanish civ: gets PAID gold to research blacksmith upgrades.

The best thing about this patch imo is that KotD5 now will get 10 times more interesting with all the changes, really looking forward to it.

Your responses to the major changes compared to Hera is amusing. So much more mellow

Correction: The Shrivamsha reload is the attack speed and not the dodge mechanic

Ethiopian is also a winner in this patch because shotel suddenly not easily meltdown by cavalry and cav archer anymore. Also they get 4 second creation time for free.

Incas are now arguably the best xolotl warrior civ with their reduced food cost.

I love how Viper is just pure excited about all the changes, while Hera was like "Noooo, I hate this!" to like half of them 😭🤣

I think the Malians "+15% instant gold drop off" is an insane buff.. you still generate 15% more gold "out of nowhere", but you get it right now (unless I'm missunderstanding the description)

This is basically the amount of changes we missed last year, but rolled into one patch. I'd normally prefer more frequent and smaller updates, but as it sends the message of "hey, we're back", I won't complain. I don't think any civ really got pushed in the wrong direction overall. I'm a little concerned Vikings might have gotten too much, but it's mostly for their infantry. Burmese, Teutons and Franks actually got something out of it after all. The Chinese change seems like an improvement to me after watching SotL's video dedicated to it. The buttons will have a lesser impact than before, even if it would be better if they didn't exist. Hauberk remaining unchanged seems like the biggest thing wrong with the patch. However, I'm still happy about the Donjon and Serjeant buffs. Goths and Spanish got almost exactly the changes I wanted. Malay also look more exciting. Small trees as a setting will be a nice addition. I also loved seeing that sneaky little grin on Viper's face when talking about "his people" getting an on-brand plundering bonus.

The food cost of Incan eagles in castle age is 25 food x 0.75 = 18.75 food

Easy way to remember: Indian civs (Gurjara, Hindu, Bengali and Dravidian) and meso civs don't get knights, everyone else does.

I for one am very excited for the Inca changes. They always felt kinda awkward before. I just kinda wish Koreans got a little more love too cause they also feel kinda awkward and weak. I'd also like to see some stuff for Persians cause they feel a bit directionless but maybe I'm just a scrub

The best is your smile when you realize that a new master piece is on the horizon

Awesome walk-through of the changes, appreciate that you took the time to explain things. Looking forward to the patch!

The infantry upgrade timing is supposed to be taken into account as a whole. No one really ever plays long swordsman to two handed - it's champion or nothing, and it's usually late game when you're like, "oh fuck, I could do with some champions!". So it's 35 seconds less to get to that point, which is nice, along with all the other buffs for the infantry line. I like it.

Spanish and persians no longer being instant win on nomad vs any other civs is such a nice change ! At long last we can have some variety and fun on that map.

Celts tech also helps their late game viability in treb wars, makes diving their trebs harder, castle firing faster + pikes that defend the trebs are healing its a good change, usually they struggle late game in the current meta

As a person who enjoys playing infantry even if I know it sucks, this patch gives me joy

The Malians gold bonus is a buff id say cause u get 15% faster and 15% more at the same time

These changes make the upcoming tournaments even more interesting to watch. Excited to see some new strategies!

Tusen takk, Viper! I've heard many pro players being elitist about this patch and not liking the change to Chinese. You keep your head cool and don't overreact and see the good side of every changes

This is the patch note review I was waiting for. :D

I pick one civ from each architecture style to be my favourite. My top ones are Italians, Inca, Malay, Dravidians, and tatar. Other than Italians I'm very very happy with this patch. Might try out Slavs too.

Next video: Canon galeons target fire a random tile *Twelve hours later* A king walks by and gets hit by the canon ball

Very much enjoy your patch reviews, Mr. Snake

I always thought the buff that the swordman lines needs is something like defend mode that footman had in Warcraft 3; trade movement speed for pierce armor.

No, but seriously, infantry will definitely be viable this time!!! (i actually think this)

I was waiting for this video, they were beautiful the few times where Viper decided to use swordsmen and even the rival too, nothing that micro Or escaping from pikemans or the Town Center paralyzed you, only 2 armies fighting

Organ guns are super nerfed once you account for the piercing armor of the enemy.

Tatars get steppes with paladins pierce armor after full upgrade while Shotels now don't die to hussars and heavy camels (plus heavy cav archer is much worse against them now). Organ gun is now dying to paladins and mangonels/onagers.

Thank you!!!! perfect length video.

Super nice bonuses coming to the game and nice video Viper!

I saw some tests from Ornlu and the changes for the Shotel Warriors are huge. They are much tankier vs. Cav now which makes their raids even more difficult to stop (bye bye TCs..)

Spanish cannon galleons are gonna be soooooooo much fun to play with now

So with the Chinese changes, it doesn't really change much on maps like Arabia - you just have to wait 25s for your 6th vill, and then you're basically in the same position as before Where it does change things, and what I think the Devs were going for was on instant food maps like Frigid Lake, it caps the villager advantage you're able to get a little lower than before. I think it's a good change, and fits with their pattern of reducing oppressive civs on certain maps (poles villager healing in dark age for BF, Spanish first TC on nomad etc)

Kamyuks are going to be really good value now in Imp at 45 food 30 gold for a tanky answer to cavalry. Organs however seem a bit dead and will need a light damage increase I think, their shots now do the same damage as Xbow/Arbs, except that they won't be able to focus fire effectively which is what the XBow line relies on.

Dravidians getting gambesons on FU infantry tree including their UT which is insane. Then the new siege bonus along with the big elephant archer upgrades. Dravidians are going to be insane and especially in post imp

1:23 wtf

I hoped that they might change flemish to men that after you push the button you can no longer create vills.

25:00 The reload time is the delay between attacks, not the shield regeneration They currently have a ROF of 1.75, which is second only to the Elite Cataphract, and is very high. They are basically being set back to average. The Organ gun got a lot worse at dealing with Cavalry for sure, but the main thing that died in this patch with the organ gun change is Portuguese Castle drops. It is not even remotely useful as a Janissary replacement anymore.

45:20 I think that actually buffs fast-castle conq play

i Think is actually amazing if you think. the all village go for the revolution and try to push the opponent out. its so cool

do you think stronger vils could also be an indirect buff to the militia line to encourage garrisoned rams?

I was waiting for you to say "Bogsveigar"

Kamayuk is the biggest buff on incan food discount! from 60F in imp to 45.5F, slingers from 30F to 28F in IMP, Eagles from 20F (25F for other Meso civs now I guess) to 17.5F now. 15 Food off kamayuk is a much bigger deal. 30% off food of skirms and spears is maybe the biggest deal of all for them. probably too many buffs for Inca at once.

Been waiting for this!

petition to make "Gambesons" with a french accent at 4:18 a sub sound alert

''..affect Inca Xolotl warriors.. OOHHHH'' hahaha Love this mans personality.

Viper has a very soothing voice. It helps me cope with my night terrors

they 'drop off' more not 'gather' more, so they will still get 115 gold from 100 gold and carry more, thats what i understood

Bipa I want to see more high level battles with high skilled player. Thanks for all the videos, masterpieces.

Hyped to see Incas and Portuguese changes

nice video on your point of view from the new patch update going through what you think, dont see much of this, only something spiirit of the law does that. it refreshing to see a playeres of the game,like viper makeing a youtube video going through new updates, instead of on streams, which people can miss.

Could it be viable to go double siege workshop with Dravidians considering you get +200 wood from advancing to the next age? Mangonels will only cost around 106 wood… with barracks technologies being cheaper and a discount on pikemen you can probably sell stone and go double siege workshop double barracks pikemen for a crazy all in in castle age (just don’t tell Hoang)

The organ gun change makes me think that archer line will counter it but they will just shred cavalry. So you won't be able to charge them down so easily. Running left and right to make the projectiles miss will also not do anything at all.

Wow Tiramis is pretty fast.

you pronounced Gambesons right the first time, at least I've always heard it said that way

Teuton champion about to become insane af

My favourite part was TheViper nerding about his next masterpiece lmao

Listening to Viper talk about Aoe2 patch notes is my version of asmr

GigaChads Incas villagers with infantry upgrades + new sappers vs rams

I once got crucified on reddit for suggesting eagles needed a 5/10 food increase

Great vid, I try to rewind. But it takes me to the beginning or last chapter. 🤨

Shotels are now insane against cav.

God I hadn't seen that many ads on a single video

How will huskarl do against organ guns? Will they now take very little damage cos the pierce armour?

Why can you read 4 Aug, 2022 in the header on the beginning of the video? Is the update preview that old?

37:40 Also it will destroy low PArmor units and do nothing to high PArmor units anymore.

Damn organ guns got shafted

It is 20/18.75/17.5 for eagle line. Should round to 20/19/18, so it's a strict buff for their eagles.

I think bogsvieger just means archer/archery. Literally a bog is a bow. Vieger looks a lot like the dutch word vleiger. Which means something that flies.

When does this patch comes live?

Actually really happy with the goth hunt bonus. It's deer and boars, right? I mean, they're no mongols now, but it makes deer heaps better esp to mill, it's almost like having a 5 deer herd now. And boars is pretty much free food, maybe not much, but it might mean +50 food or something right? From faster gathering. And then saved wood from later farms.

Its high time the Throwing Axemen gets some changes, its one ignored unit.

Sappers should be upgraded in the TC, it's a villager upgrade. Besides, if you have to kill rams with vills in Castle or Imp it means you're probably dead already.

The Incas gods/Brad are happy with the New bonuses and changes , the Slavs are gonna Fight against Sicilian is about Boyar(more cheaper) vs Cavalier (Sicilian Armor), the infamous player of Celts gonna be More Deadly ,Malay Karambit raids are gonna be more frecuent.

The only thing i hate to play against is the spanish cannon galleon as there is no counter to it.

Finallllyyyyyyyyyy! Thanks for uploading

I think Organ Gun accuracy being 0% means that they will always hit the nearest unit just like fast fire ships. This should also give them zero range as long as they have a distant enough target to shoot at. because the shots should always hit the nearest units regardless of distance. I think this might be a low key buff to them. When a unit misses in AoE the missed shot can still hit but does reduced damage. IIRC arrows will do 1 damage still and with organ guns they had the missed shots still doing half. So with 5 shots we could see it has 2 hits and 3 misses for 20+20+10+10+10 or 70 damage in total. Now it will be 7x9 or 63 damage against a grouping of enemies. on average this is less damage. However on any potential volley the organ guns of the past could do all hits or misses so could be from 50 to 100 damage. This adds a degree of consistency. Also one has to remember the accuracy mechanics. When a unit misses it misses by hitting the nearest target. An example of this is fast fires. They have zero accuracy. So when a unit gets between them and their target they hit the nearest enemy. So as there are more targets to block their target they will have a 100 percent hit chance and always against the closest threats. In the past organ guns would struggle when units started to get ontop of them because they would struggle to deal with them. Now as long as they can fire at something they will hit the units that most immediately threaten them first. They will take 63 damage. And so I think this should make them amazing vs melee units and so will need to be countered with ranged units and siege.

VIPER WE LOVE U

in my opinion more than pierce armor it will be better if the militia line will be a little more faster to reach archer better

Here for watching vipers patch opinions, without playing aoe for like 10 years😅

When this patch will be out?

1:23

Loved it

dravidians are going to have 25% faster ele archers, which are now cheaper to upgrade and faster to produce. They will have Gambesons to add to probably already the strongest infantry in the game, and will get 33% discount to trebuchets and siege onagers wood cost. Dravidians are going to be tough

we want to see a Donjon trush Mastapiece

I think Ethiopians is a big winner here, that three damage reduction vs cav is pretty big

Could the militia line upgrades be a big nerf to Mayans? what already countered eagles is now also better against archers . And unlike aztecs and incas, mayans don't really have other strong options

The best part of this was watching the Viper trying to do math on the Inca Eagle cost 😂

Does someone know when the patch is coming.?

I like the changes to the militia line. I am a bit worried for the Malians and Goths who now get worse compared to other civs, but good overall. On the other hand, I don't think the pikemen change is good. It will make games more defensive. Same with the murder holes change or even the sappers one.

The real Chieftains question is do Trade Carts count as cavalry? Most of them have horses!

How​ many​ gold​ we​ will​ get​ with​ spanish​ New​ eco​ bonus​ civ?

now, does the organ gun's new change mean that every projectile will actually do half damage to every unit? because technically all those projectiles are missing their "Intended" target. i hope not lmao

Viper’s ancestors were mean people

I played a few games with Vikings now, and I can say they are much more fun to play. Much smoother and much more of a player friendly civ. Berserks are much better in castle age, and infantry in general feel much more competitive with calvary and archers, not overpowered.

With this teuton champions get 1+5/1+5! Amazing, and very good for my OCD. Edit: giving gambesons to persians is a cruel joke. Not only it's useless to them but they also need a rework and they get nothing. sheesh.

Gambesons is indeed a french word