I am so very happy for you and the results many are achieving are amazing. I know what can be done with good pigeons and proper bodyweight because I work so much less than my competitors but can still be at the top.

How much in grams would you feed each day

@@darrenavison784 1 pickpot pr 10 birds. Worked great for me last year. I will do the same this year. 😀👍

Thank you

Did you feed just the depurative

This is so nice of you. I have many more to come. I appreciate this!

Same here

Count me in as well I check daily for new videos and rewatch all your videos 😅

Thank you for this and it was great to hear about your success. You will have a bright future in this sport.

Everyone thinks this game takes all kinds of time and effort. I want to succeed with less time and effort. I could have better results with more time and effort but I am happy with my results like this.

I want success and have this with limited time and great pigeons and methods.

Hi Andrei, You are too nice but I am so happy you enjoy them.

Awesome Congratulations! Nice Job

Great point!

So is the depure mix good enough to race on ??

Versele Laga Depure is perfect to race on. It is high carb, high fiber, low protein and low fat. Great feed to race on.

Hey Frank, thanks for the great lesson! Not to beat a dead horse, but I am a stickler for math, and am about to purchase a bunch of barley to mix my feed. The Versele-Laga website says that Depure has 24% barley, and you were talking 80% barley. I was thinking I would mix 20% Versele Laga Classic with 80% pure Barley grain, and use that as my race mix. What do you think? (It is really hard to get a premix depurative here in Memphis!!!)

I still have to learn this KZfaq stuff and find out why I miss replies to questions that are far down the list. Mix the 80% barley with the 20% classic. That is excellent. You will be better off than the Depure from Vesele laga.

Hi Alan, I am not familiar with Dave Allen's system but would like to know more. If you can email me more info to Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

Congratulations. Happy if I helped a little but you did the job managing the pigeons.

" Master the racing just asks Mclaughlin" as simple as that. Again thank you so much!

Handle your team when they return from a six hour flight. That is how they should feel when they go to the race. Light and buoyant with no bulk or roundness. Not heavy at all but you can feel the muscle but not big and full muscle.

@McLaughlin Lofts will do. Next weekend the fun starts

You will see better results. Keep me posted.

Glad to hear it. Thank you

I am happy you like the videos. If I cannot find a reason Why I usually will not do something. The sport has changed over the years and many live in the past.

Wow, Congratulations. Great job. You will have much success. Keep me posted.

What seed mix do you use on the return of the race ??

I appreciate this. I am having fun.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons these system is opposite of what I have been taught. I will definitely follow this system this year young bird race.

I appreciate this!

You are too nice. I will have two more parts, Long Distance and Young Birds.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons awesome , thanks for the reply. I know you prob don’t want to give away too many of your secrets but I’m curious to know how much u feed per bird per day ? Are they restricted to .75 of an ounce or can they eat as much as they want of the light mix once per day? Thanks again Frank 😊

I am going to try to figure how much I feed this old bird season. I will measure and see exactly what I do. I feed more instinctively and then adjust with their body weight. You can feed until they leave a little tiny bit of barley once per day or until a bird goes to water and that will be okay.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons awesome . Thanks so much frank ☺️

I am pleased you enjoyed and watched. Thank you!

Happy you liked it!

You are very welcome

Happy you enjoyed it. If you master feeding you need much less work to fly at the top.

Yes its very expensive to race pigeons here in south africa even the clocks are expensive🙈

Glad it was helpful!

I do supplement my birds with plenty of minerals and also use this system during the week. Minerals are most important and I use this stuff. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7KarNaStszQl4E.html

Hey Sean, I did not realize you watched my videos. I am a big fan and follow your success. Congratulations on all your accomplishments.

Hi Ronda, So happy you enjoyed. Thank you

Any good depurative mix will work and you should do super. I have used others in the past. I also mix my own with barley and 16% protein mix.

So happy you liked it!

So happy you liked it.

I have a couple more parts to do for Long Distance and young birds

I have not been able to get any decent barley this year. It has been sold out so I have been feeding the Depure from Versele Laga and not mixing my own this season.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons ok thanks alot

So happy you enjoyed it!!

So happy you like this.

You can do it. Experiment and feed like me. Watch what happens.

I like 80% barley and 20% breeding mix. I have not been able to get barley and I am feeding Depure from Versele Laga. Low protein and low fat. See my pinned comment at the top of the page.

Thanks Frank, I guess the only other question is how much you feed each bird?

I will do a follow up video and weigh the feed and show volume but how much water my can will hold.

Thay would be fantastic

Glad you enjoyed.

Glad you think so!

I do feed like this for the young birds. I usually have the young on 30% barley through training and about a week before the first race I put them on the barley mix and treat them like the old birds. If they young have a long training toss of a big workout I will add more grain for that feeding and then back to the barley mix. The young are growing some but not molting much during racing so you can feed the same as the old birds. I put the old birds on the mix maybe two weeks before the season starts and the young about one week before the season starts.

So happy you liked the video. More to come.

Glad you enjoyed it

Hi Eric, You are the best! Thank you. Two more parts to come on Long Distance and Youngbirds.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Im all ears lol !!🤣👍

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Great news, Frank. Looking forward to watching the long distance edition. It is a dangerous border between being light to race well and being too light and running out of fuel(fat) and drop on the fields.

I will be doing a Part 2 on Feeding for Long Distance and then Part 3 on Feeding young birds. I will make Part 2 in about a week. Plan to do a Live Stream on Sunday.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons ok thanks alot we start in May so want to be ready for the season

You're welcome 😊

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Hello Frank, I have a question about the nutrition program for speed and medium distance competitions. Can it be followed in Morocco? You should know that the season for speed, medium and long distance races has a different date. We usually start the season in January and end in April or May. You know what the weather is like in this Months: Is it possible to follow your method or add some other grains to the mixture?

You can certainly apply this system in Morocco. It will work perfect in your country. I hope you are safe from the earth quake. That is so scary.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons Thank you, Frank. I am fine. The area I live in was not damaged, unlike the mountainous areas, as the destruction was massive

Hi Jon, I know some of the breweries sell a barley that was already soaked in sugar water before they make the beer. If this malt barley is just barley and nothing added it should be fine. I had a friend buying from a brewery and his birds were so fat. That barley although it looked the same was presoaked in sugar.

Thank you for the complement. I am glad you like my videos. I will keep them coming.

You can mix your own grain or use the Depurative. If I can get great barley I mix my own if not I can feed Depure from Versele Laga. Either works super.

thanks so 80% barley 20% champion if you cant get barley use 100% depure thanks again

I will do a video on feeding the young. I really feed them almost exactly the same way and start about a week before the race season. No need to keep them on the barley mix too early. I will give the babies more grain if they have a longer workout. Only because they are young.

Happy you enjoyed.

For old birds I put them on the barley mix several weeks before the first race to get the body weight down before training. I do not loft fly the old birds before I start training so I must make sure they are light and buoyant. For the young birds I have them on 50% barley when I want them to start exercising around the loft and keep them on 50% barley during training. I move to 80% barley about 10 days before the first young bird race.

No need to have the males and females meet the day of shipping. That will not help and only hurt. If they mix after the races that is Okay. I race them on Saturday, train 35 miles on Tuesday and maybe 50 to 70 miles on Thursday. That is it. Email me and I will send you a simplified feeding system you can follow. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

I will do a video on feeding for the longer distances. Email me and I can send more info. Glad you liked the video. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

You can feed until they leave a few pieces of barley and feed only once a day. My birds tend to clean this up fairly fast but I have been doing this for years. Better to feed until they leave a bit of barley and stop.

I only exercise two times per week between races and usually feed in the morning or after the exercise. I usually feed 100% barley for a couple weeks before I start the road training to bring the weight down. They do not get too much each day. I do not loft fly before training and just start them close to home and inch them out to maybe 30 miles before the first race. Once training starts they are on the barley mix.

If you have Depure from Versela Laga use the Depure but watch my feeding videos and feed the measured amount. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9t0Zbdjstmyd58.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKtzgN1istvFkoE.html

I start the light mix about a week or two before the race season. It is only used during the racing. The rest of the time the pigeons have plenty to eat. During molting they must have plenty and very rich feed to grow the new feathers.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons got it. Thanks a lot.

I suggest feeding until they leave a handful of barley. If you are not training the pigeons very much. See this video on my measurements: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9t0Zbdjstmyd58.html

Thank you!

I would train the birds on Wednesday and Friday. You should be great.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you so much frank❤️

It certainly is how much you feed. If you fed a measured amount and divided that in two the birds would act so hungry most would feed more and over feed. Fanciers that feed in the morning until the birds are about full usually feed the same again that day. Nearly double what is really needed. Much easier to feed a set amount once a day. Feed until they slow down go to water or start to leave barley and that is all they get until the next day.

Thank you!

You should do great. Most areas use systems that everyone else uses so you may shake up the competitors by doing things a little different.

I am sorry to say that you cannot feed like me if they old birds are raising babies during racing. You must feed plenty of good rich feed so the babies will not be stunted. If I had one section I would leave all the feed they want in front of the pigeons at all times. They do not eat as much when they have all they want. If you do not have hawk problems leave the loft open so the birds can go in and out all day long for exercise. You can fly well like this.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I’m in Staten Island, NY. Hawks are problem. Usually they are prevalent from October to March. During summer time I find very rare hawk attack. And I don’t lose any bird. But winter time it’s tough time dealing with hawks. Most likely breeders I’ll keep in a separate section and racers in the other section. So I can feed accordingly birds in each section too. Thank you for your opinion. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Once a week and is plenty but I am not consistent and most likely monthly. My birds can go out in open flight pens and love the rain.

Thank you sir

Welcome to the sport. You should mix in about 30% barley to your feed mix for the young and feed plenty. They are growing and molting and need the feed. By adding 30% barley they will exercise readily. Load them up with feed until the leave feed each day. Once racing starts you can move to feeding like I spoke about in the Old Bird Short Distance racing. Once your young pigeons are flying strong around the loft maybe exercising for 30 minutes or more it is time to start training. Start slow and pick nice days. There is no rush. See my Educating Young Bird Video.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I feed them once a day is that good enough? what feed mix would you recommend? I'm using the winner cup mix right now, as of barley where is the place I can get it? its hard for me to get one were I'm at.

Once a day is best or you will over feed. Not sure about where you can find the barley. Where are you located? Most grain dealers can order good barley.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons I'm located in albuquerque NM. Jedds sale them I think. thank you for your advice

Hey Kevin, I add some fats for the distance but not much protein. Pigeons need very little fat to fly long distances. Most over do the fat and feed which can lead to heavy birds. The body weight has to be perfect to race the distance also. I will do a video on long distance feeding soon.

Hello John, I feed Versele Laga because I like it and do not have many grain options here. I get nothing or in no way profit from Versele Laga, only tell what I use but there are many great feed companies. Everyone has their opinion and if your birds are reluctant to eat barley, if it is a good barley, then you are over feeding. The results have been incredible from around the world using my feeding system and some of the top most famous fanciers are now feeding like me. No matter what we do sometimes results do not come and you cannot blame just the feeding. Feeding is only part of this. The birds must be super and only the top pigeons will perform to the front. Corn and wheat are decent feed but for sprinting there is nothing more beneficial than barley. I am sure many will agree after seeing how feeding like me turned around the results of so many. If you have a system that works stick to it. My system works for many with little time for the pigeons and still want great results. Hopefully you will gain some info from other videos I film. I like others opinions always.

You can use either. I could not get good quality barley this year and used the Depure

I buy from Global Pigeon Supply out of New York because they deliver to me.

I am not sure what your question is? Watch all my feeding videos here. kzfaq.info/sun/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt Email me and I can send you a simple feeding program. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

As the training goes further and further, what should be fed until it reaches 250km

As the training goes further and further, what should be fed until it reaches 250km

250 km is not far and you do not have to change the feeding.

Do you have to ship the same birds each week? They can fly weekly through 300 miles but you may want to give some birds a week off before the 400. Feed like this for 100 to 300 miles and see my long distance feeding for the 400. Email me and I will send you the system. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

Thank you Frank I emailed you

Thank you Sir for your information. I'm new in pigeon racing just started. I understand every word you said. My only concern how much do you feed per bird? Let's I have 16 birds to learn and understand the sport. I think that is important to me as a new comer.

Hello Karl, If you can get wheat in the husk it would probably be Okay. The birds tend not to overeat barley. It is about their least favorite grain. I know Barley works and I am not sure about wheat.

No barley in the mix for breeding. The barley is only for the race team

many thank i thought as much.@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons

I must measure and see. I feed until they slow down and keep them a bit hungry. Email me and I will send you a simple feeding program to follow. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com

Yes that will work just perfect in the heat and may even be better in warmer temperatures.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you very much, i will try it here in the Philippines

I think the dechlorinator removes the chlorine or at least enough of the chlorine so it does not kill the friendly bacteria, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7KarNaStszQl4E.html

Sunflower is too high in fat. I like sunflower as an energy seed.

For old birds I put them on the barley mix several weeks before the first race to get the body weight down before training. I do not loft fly the old birds before I start training so I must make sure they are light and buoyant. I train the old birds for maybe two weeks before the first race and get them out maybe 40 miles. For the young birds I have them on 50% barley when I want them to start exercising around the loft and keep them on 50% barley during training. I move to 80% barley about 10 days before the first young bird race.

You want to use the barley in the hull. I think that is what Unhulled Barley is. It is high fiber and a great seed that they do not like to over eat and tends to keep them very buoyant. It looks like a big fat grass seed.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks for your reply.

Hi Tia, I have my grain delivered from Global Pigeon Supplies out of New York. They carry all kinds of feed along with all the minerals I use. Many supply houses sell a nice depurative that should be super to race on. Happy you liked the video!

No much has been done on studying this. No so set that they burn carbs then fats. They do not need much fat to fly many hours.

I still feed light. The training is not long. If they fly more than 90 minutes I will add more rich feed to the mix. I only train two times per week so they will be fine.

If you are going to loft fly you can feed once a day until they start to leave a few pieces of barley. They will loft fly if you feed like this. I usually do not loft fly the old birds so I keep them a little hungry.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks so much air for your reply..so until they leave some of the barley i will feed them..is 80% barley 20% depurative can be used as well with young birds?

Feed 80% barley with 20 breeding mix or depurative. You may be able to buy a good depurative and you will not have to mix your own. I feed the young birds that same way and start the 80% barley a week or so before the first race.

I am sorry for the confusion. I either use the Depure from Versele Laga or mix 80% barley and 20% breeder mix like Champion.

If you are new please feed once a day until they leave a small handful of barley. You cannot make a mistake on feeding if you feed the race team once a day until they leave a few bits of barley.

I start racing in April and it is cold and damp that time of year in Massachusetts. The barley mix should be just fine. What country do you live in?

At weaning I give all the rich feeds the babies want. Usually mix Versele Laga Champion and Versele Laga Energy. You want them to pick through and eat all the small seeds they want. You never want to stress them by not giving them free choice and let them have what they want. I will put a cheap Tractor Supply Chicken Vitamin and Electrolyte in the water a few days a week right at weaning time. I make this very weak because this Chicken Vitamin is so strong. Plenty of grits and minerals again you want to keep them from getting stressed.

Thanks alot

Congrats 👏 on the last week

Nice to have a bit of luck now and again. Thank you!

I think I already make like 3 of my youngsters stress because they not eating alot do u know what I can used at this point

Here is all the information needed for success in these videos kzfaq.info/sun/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt

You can feed the Caseart Depurative day of shipping. The other Casaert mix is too rich or short distance.

Thank you very much

Very similar. I will do Part 2 which is Feeding for Long Distance and then Part 3 which will be feeding young birds.

When are you going to do part 3 ...I'm 2 weeks away from young birds Frank

If you are basketing at that time feed as early in the day as possible. I suggest if you are able to also feed a very small amount about 12 noon so they may drink a little more water.

Many are doing the same as they were doing 50 years ago. Make the change and dominate the racing.

I feed in the morning but you can feed around your schedule. If once a day in the afternoon works better for you that is just great.

Hello Frank, I am sorry for the confusion. This year I mixed my own feed with 75% barley and 25% Champion Mix. You want to keep the protein and fat content down and the Depure does that. They do not send Depure to the USA anymore so I just mix my own for low fat low protein feed using 75% barley. You can go 80% barley also. You will not believe how they birds feel and perform.

Maybe in the future I can have more subtitles.

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons škoda jsem začátečník s chovem poštovních holubů teprve třetí rok. Proto hledám podobné články a videa abych získal nějaké vědomosti od zkušených chovatelů a snažím se to aplikovat do mých podmínek. Přeji krásný den.👍

Keep the faith. You will do great.

Very close to the same for young pigeons and I will do a video for the young pigeons soon.

You can mix barley with a good breeder mix or feed depurative mix. Either is fine and will do great for racing.

I feel paddy rice will work because it is in the hull. Very similar to barley

@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons OK. Thanks for your reply.

Hi Darren, You can race on Depurative nothing else through 300 miles. Watch and see what happens. Birds will be amazing. Feed them rich seeds and all they can eat on return from the race.

My breeders have feeders full of feed at all times. I feed mostly Versele Laga Champion Mix. You must keep all the grits and minerals also in front of the breeders at all times. Minerals are more important than the grain mix you use. Any good around 16% protein will be great for the breeders. I also keep a feeder of chicken lay pellets in the breeding sections but they do not eat too many pellets.