Mastering Chain at Universal Mastering presented by Pete Doell

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TC Electronic HD

9 жыл бұрын

Pete shows us Mastering Studio A at Universal and he tells us how he does mastering, both analog and digital. One of the main features of the studio is the System 6000. The System 6000 is often the first and last thing a song or score is working with, when it’s in Mastering Studio A.
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@ChrisPhoenixBMR
@ChrisPhoenixBMR 5 жыл бұрын
The way he just explained mid-side!... it finally makes sense to me. Thank you sir!
@bingybeats189
@bingybeats189 3 жыл бұрын
Just get the goodhertz midside plug-in on demo. It simplifies the process and when you’re don’t using it, you truly understand.
@driggerfireon5760
@driggerfireon5760 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great easy info. Wonderful set up. Short & complete. Thx
@TheGiftof7PRESENTS
@TheGiftof7PRESENTS 5 жыл бұрын
A great deal of mixing info. Thanks
@rafalvarezsevilla
@rafalvarezsevilla 3 жыл бұрын
the R+L unlinked reverb idea seems cool, never heard of it
@dualityfirm4551
@dualityfirm4551 6 жыл бұрын
I must agree. Good hz spectrum on The speakers!!
@380stroker
@380stroker 5 жыл бұрын
One of the BIGGEST most important things besides the AD/DA converters is the quality of the word clocks. I cannot stress this enough. Jitter management baby! Antelope doesn't have the lowest jitter clocks. FYI. Companies that suck do not like putting out their jitter specs.
@benja303
@benja303 7 жыл бұрын
Signal Processing Digital signal from computer -> Gets converted into analog -> Re recorded into second computer. Analog EQS Analog Compressors Digital EQS Digital Compressors You need a second computer for different sample rates. You want it in native.
@Racingheartrecords
@Racingheartrecords 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see the Dynaudio speakers against the back wall and the Genelecs on their sides.
@ricardoayala2023
@ricardoayala2023 5 жыл бұрын
The price for those speakers is $35 thousand.
@Xyz-dh2ns
@Xyz-dh2ns 9 ай бұрын
Real mastering session
@RizzyWithDaMix
@RizzyWithDaMix 2 ай бұрын
I know this video is 8yrs old but I’m curious on why you have the tweeter in and woofer out on the Genelecs???
@holywaterandgreentea
@holywaterandgreentea Жыл бұрын
thanks
@caprising4445
@caprising4445 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see his tweeter cones facing in rather than out on the Genelecs. I've always faced them out on nearfeilds
@waldiewave
@waldiewave 4 жыл бұрын
The Genelec 1030As should always be upright. Naughty of him. A big No No.
@Gamervidsman2000
@Gamervidsman2000 2 жыл бұрын
​@@waldiewave Why
@TangleTwister
@TangleTwister 8 жыл бұрын
i thought the tweeters on your nearfield monitors should alway be pointing out. could anyone tell me why they might be pointing inwards?
@TheFRiNgEguitars
@TheFRiNgEguitars 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed the same, curious why no one has replied to this? The tweeters usually should be to the outside to align better to listener. There may be certain exceptions according to speaker design, tweeter polarity, and the crossover order.
@johnmiller8279
@johnmiller8279 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFRiNgEguitars and as far as i know you shouldn't lie on one sie speakers designed to stay upward because you risk to mess with the emission pattern
@johnmiller8279
@johnmiller8279 5 жыл бұрын
but since these are UNIVERSAL studio i think they can measure and adjust the shit out of it
@TheFRiNgEguitars
@TheFRiNgEguitars 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnmiller8279 I think you are talking about the dispersion pattern? Yes you're right, with side placement the vertical becomes the horizontal pattern which will be usually tighter, The near fields have a waveguide, which are likely time aligned. (so these can be on their sides) The speakers will still image sharply, perhaps more so, however the listening sweet spot will be smaller... and pretty much restricted to dead center between the speakers for best response.
@FirstnameLastname-dm2xl
@FirstnameLastname-dm2xl 6 жыл бұрын
TC you really need the finalizer vst plugin.
@MadACeTeeMack
@MadACeTeeMack 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question: Why not just use 3 computers and perform all processing in real time while " in the box" sending the final output into the third computer.
@chandlerartiss9739
@chandlerartiss9739 7 жыл бұрын
TJ Mack becuase all in the box doesn't sound as good as this analog gear
@kodykindhart8230
@kodykindhart8230 3 жыл бұрын
Bs I see Weiss digital eq and compressor
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 5 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand using two computers. You can get interfaces with AUX sends or FX send/return for outboard gear. They probably don't work with two sample rates even if you use two interfaces? So if its not a conversion quality issue why not convert and then just send via AUX?
@auxtone1332
@auxtone1332 Жыл бұрын
its to avoid conversion
@frutini
@frutini 9 ай бұрын
its to avoid having to digital dither. you could do it with 1 computer, but your DAW/software will have to DIGITALLY convert it afterwards, which is what he’s trying to avoid. for example, lets say your mixed track is recorded at 96khz/32bit chain with 1 computer: 96khz/32bit > analog gear > 96khz/32bit > final 44.1khz/16bit (software/daw export conversion) chain with 2 computers: 96khz/32bit > analog gear > final 44.1khz (second computer recording)
@milesfeinberg
@milesfeinberg 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone know about that eq (with the black knobs) above the keyboard? what brand is it?
@milesfeinberg
@milesfeinberg 8 жыл бұрын
+Miles Feinberg Sontec?
@maximboe
@maximboe 8 жыл бұрын
+Miles Feinberg It's the ITI MES-430 Parametric Mastering Eq. Also look into the Prism Sound Maselec MEA-2 Mastering Eq.
@richardpwillan
@richardpwillan 5 жыл бұрын
Interviewer asked a v good question at 1m16 and engineer didnt understand his point. Was curious to know the answer! I know its very common to record at 96k and convert afterwards
@fandecaisses1
@fandecaisses1 4 жыл бұрын
he answered he'd do this if he had a single-computer full digital processing, but he uses analogue gear between the source and the recorder, then in this configuration it removes a conversion step. 96 -> analogue -> 44.1 record instead of 96 -> analogue -> 96 record -> 44.1 conversion
@manykzdj792
@manykzdj792 5 ай бұрын
Antelope amari is better then rme adi-2 dac fs pro?
@kadekbalian
@kadekbalian 8 жыл бұрын
Why do you re-record the signal at 44.1kHz? Wouldn't it make sense to always record at the highest available sample rate that can be converted down to whatever resolution needed later?!
@aetheonpro396
@aetheonpro396 8 жыл бұрын
my guess is (Just a theory) that whatever sample rate you record at (even if its low) would retain most of the original quality been recorded through it even if the recorded audio has a higher quality... E.g, If you record a 192kHZ audio source from another computer into a 44KHZ sample rate on the computer you choose to use for the final export, the re-recorded audio should be able to keep many qualities of the original audio been recorded through it while it still remains a smaller size....
@shechshire
@shechshire 8 жыл бұрын
+kadekbalian I was thinking the same thing. I can't seem to understand as to why he is using that archaic analog mixer. Every time a DAC converts a digital signal to analogue one, it looses quality. He should change his title to "butcher".
@shechshire
@shechshire 7 жыл бұрын
+Honey Bear Focusrite? ...The fuck are you talking about? Every time you convert digital to analogue you lose signal quality because of the lossy nature of the analogue signal. So analog technology is not archaic? Wow, you learn something everyday.. Not! lol Just because old stubborn mastering engineers and the sheep they influence STILL use doesn't mean it's valuable because it's in "real mastering studios....".
@mrdan-music6427
@mrdan-music6427 7 жыл бұрын
shechshire shechshire honey bear is implying exactly what you just said essentially. I can do 20 passes of da-ad on my Aopgee symphony and it still nulls to zero so there's no loss at all on higher end converters. It's all about the dynamic range of the ad, da stages, THD and the actual bits you end up with so yes it is indeed all about computer science. There's also nothing like that Sontec EQ he has there available as a plugin. There's also vibe in the Dangerous gear that he uses. No offence pal but you can't comment on that gear unless you've used it. You're not going to hear the difference in your bedroom studio anyway.
@shechshire
@shechshire 7 жыл бұрын
mrdan-music I take it you've read my other comment.. What I meant was that, studying sound, as in real sound in it's natural analogue state has nothing to do with computer science and hence that person wouldn't be able to talk out of knowledge because they don't understand computer science and how sound becomes digitized and then converted by a DAC into analogue again. I understand that mega expensive DACs are extremely low jitter but the key word here is LOW.. Meaning loss of fidelity still exist. Sorry but, if their's no need for it then why even do it? Why go through the trouble? In fact, analogue purists' number one complaint is people that take an analogue sound and then run the whole thing through digital equipment.
@cidalopez6964
@cidalopez6964 7 жыл бұрын
whats the name of those speaker near to him??
@IoannisKalantzis
@IoannisKalantzis 6 жыл бұрын
Genelec A1031
@popr3b3l
@popr3b3l 4 жыл бұрын
Genelec 1032c
@TangleTwister
@TangleTwister 8 жыл бұрын
sorry just saw the comments below
@gk020490
@gk020490 4 жыл бұрын
He has the deepest voice in the world haha
@phathandyman4537
@phathandyman4537 7 жыл бұрын
if cant afford a $12k prizim converter...can i use a $500-1k presonus, or something... for A/D - D/A converter? its both 24 bit 192 sampling... it will do the job,?
7 жыл бұрын
No
@keionneblack
@keionneblack 6 жыл бұрын
Try a Lavry Gold.. under 10k and sounds AMAZING
@ZiadSidawi
@ZiadSidawi 6 жыл бұрын
phat handyman try a Lynx Hilo for about $2.5k
@JAKEAWAKEOFFICIAL
@JAKEAWAKEOFFICIAL 6 жыл бұрын
Just do it in the box. Most people do.
@SoyJuanManuelChannel
@SoyJuanManuelChannel 5 жыл бұрын
BAD MUSIC SOUNDS BAD AT ANY PRICE.
@PrairieHippie
@PrairieHippie Жыл бұрын
Two computers rather than Dither?
@le-berry
@le-berry Жыл бұрын
Pete does not get the first question.... He ask would it hurt to record in the same computer at the wrong sampling rate.... would doing that and converting degrade the outcome? that was not hard.
@peterlagroove6555
@peterlagroove6555 6 жыл бұрын
Quality mix and mastering is not about how loud you can get a song. The game is all messed up nowadays. Of course you want loudness, but not compressed all to hell where you're loosing the beauty of the music.
@thlgnd
@thlgnd 5 жыл бұрын
It's because listeners don't care about that technical stuff at all. It's engineers who worry too much!
@robertoflores2078
@robertoflores2078 4 жыл бұрын
I just deleted all my free mastering VST's
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 4 жыл бұрын
why?
@ozorg
@ozorg 9 жыл бұрын
0:53 - wtf?
@JohnIvoryMusic
@JohnIvoryMusic 7 жыл бұрын
ozorg maybe movies?? (On movie film tape)
@KiLLACAiN
@KiLLACAiN 6 жыл бұрын
LOL wtf is right LOL
@bigpoppa800
@bigpoppa800 7 жыл бұрын
why use analog for mastering???
@justaguy3515
@justaguy3515 6 жыл бұрын
Because every piece of analog gear has unique sound, depth and width. Plugins still can't deliver that.
@allanlimaverde6201
@allanlimaverde6201 6 жыл бұрын
For the same reason virtually every professinal guitarist uses a real tube amp instead of a plugin
@thlgnd
@thlgnd 5 жыл бұрын
@@justaguy3515 That's debatable because even modern digital limiters sound different... If not better :)
@Only1Science
@Only1Science 5 жыл бұрын
Pete has a broadcaster's voice. He'll always have worked lined up should he decide to quit mastering.
@florin1290
@florin1290 6 жыл бұрын
Of course yes, you have to understand the theory of mastering not the tools of mastering.
@nondelusional
@nondelusional 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong ! When you understand the tools 1st. Then you understand theory.
@xphorm
@xphorm Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a stone age for modern software VSTs for mastering. Not that it is impossible to make great things with it (knowledge and ear is the king), but I guess it's definitely harder to achieve some things. This is mostly for hardware fetishists. Also, imagine how much noise it's added when you do DA and then AD.
@snoolee7950
@snoolee7950 Жыл бұрын
Caveman rig gets the job done! I think you are imagining the "added noise."
@frutini
@frutini 9 ай бұрын
… and thats why all the legendary hits are mastered/mixed on ANALOG gear. If you like TikTok ringtones i guess VST can work for you. This is for the big boys!
@Essential-Electronic-Music
@Essential-Electronic-Music 9 ай бұрын
@@frutini I bet there are some great legendary hits made digitally, ain't it?
@frutini
@frutini 9 ай бұрын
@@Essential-Electronic-Music fisher - losing it is not a legendary hit
@mrzprettyfeet
@mrzprettyfeet 7 ай бұрын
You are the weakest link, and clearly don't understand a lick of what you're talking about or the gear that you just saw.
@KiLLACAiN
@KiLLACAiN 6 жыл бұрын
holy fuck lol master the video audio or what LOL cool dude though!
@rahulmurthy1763
@rahulmurthy1763 4 жыл бұрын
WoWww what ehh voice... Hollywood's loss... He must have been a real ladies man during his times. 😉
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 6 жыл бұрын
He can't even hear high frequencies
@jacobnorman5420
@jacobnorman5420 8 жыл бұрын
This might be the worse commentary I have ever seen. How do you stump the interviewee ?
@jmac2050
@jmac2050 6 жыл бұрын
that's a lot of hookis pookis,, i just use a laptop
@messiahblackgod
@messiahblackgod 5 ай бұрын
and that's why your shit will NEVER sound like the Masters
@jmac2050
@jmac2050 5 ай бұрын
@@messiahblackgod I AM the Master
@Max16032
@Max16032 2 жыл бұрын
All this processing and thousands of dollars in mastering just for people to listen to the finished product with ipod-tier earbuds and 10 dolar speakers, lol
@nogoogleplus
@nogoogleplus 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like interviewer was really clueless, or maybe just not great at English?
@No-to4kd
@No-to4kd 3 жыл бұрын
people still use hardware? why?
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