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"Masters of the Air" B-17 Pilot Tom Wiley

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Thomas Edgar Wiley passed away January 17, 2024. He celebrated his 100th birthday on June 23, 2023. Interview recorded on April 20, 2005 by the Ashland County Historical Society.
Tom was born in Columbus, Ohio in 1923 on The Ohio State University campus when his father was attending post-graduate classes. He graduated from Ashland (Ohio) High School in June 1941 and began classes at Ohio State in August of that year.
One year after the bombing of Pearl Harbor Tom enlisted in the US Army Air Corps and soon began pilot training. On April 15, 1944, he received his pilot wings and was commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in the US Army. (The US Air Force was not a separate service until 1947.) Due to the heavy loss of bomber crews in Europe, he was assigned as a co-pilot to an already trained B-17 crew. They picked up a new B-17 in Kearney, Nebraska and Tom learned how to fly this new plane as they flew it across the Atlantic Ocean to join the 15th Air Force in Foggia, Italy.
Between August 30, 1944, and February 28, 1945, Tom completed 35 missions bombing targets in Southern Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia and northern Italy. His most memorable mission was his 15th on October 17, 1944, as it resulted in his being reported “Missing in Action.” The target was an oil refinery in Blechhammer, Germany. His squadron encountered the severe winds of a thunderhead cloud as they dropped their bombs. Upon recovering into clear air, Tom saw no other planes from his group so he took up a southerly heading to return to his base in Italy.
To conserve fuel he reduced engine power and put the plane in a slight downward glide while flying in smooth clouds. Suddenly, over the plane’s intercom, came the command, “Pull up!” Immediately Tom pulled the plane up in a steep climb while applying full power to all four engines. A waist gunner shouted, “There are trees outside!” They were flying up the steep slope of an Alps mountain!
Clearing the top at over 16,000 feet, he resumed the slow downward glide. As they approached home base, Tom asked for permission to land. “Who are you?” the tower demanded. Tom gave the day’s password. The tower responded, “Permission refused!” Tom landed anyway and as the plane turned off the runway, the engines stopped. Out of gas! Every member of the crew all said that he had heard the command “Pull up!” over the plane’s intercom but no one admitted that he had yelled “Pull up!” But they all saw the leaves on the ball turret on the underside of the plane from the trees on the mountain.
During debriefing, the engineering officers demanded to know where they had landed and refueled. They said a B-17 could not have flown for over eleven hours and not refueled. So, while Tom recorded eleven hours and fifteen minutes in his personal pilot fight log, his official Air Force log reads eight hours, the normal flight time for that mission.
For his combat service 1st Lt. Wiley was awarded the Air Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters and the Distinguished Flying Cross.
Upon completion of his combat tour, rather than go to the Pacific Theater and fly B-29’s, Tom transferred to the Mediterranean Air Transport Service and began flying C-47 and C-46’s. This included picking up mail for the 15th Air Force in Cairo and flying military personnel and supply trips. On one trip he flew a plane load of tank parts destined for Marshal Tito into a Yugoslavia pasture field. Landing in the small grass area wasn’t as hard as taking off, clearing the high fence, tall trees and lifting the right wing over the steeple of the town’s cathedral.
On his final leave, Tom briefly visited his parents in Ashland, Ohio and then went to Haymarket, Virginia where, on October 24, 1945, he and Mary Lillian Norman were married in a small, rural Episcopal Church. They returned to Columbus, Ohio and Tom resumed his classes at Ohio State graduating March 19, 1948. He worked on a large dairy farm in north central Ohio for the remainder of the year and then moved to Madison, Wisconsin to begin a Master’s degree program in the College of Agriculture. During this time Tom worked on two fellowship projects sponsored by U.S. Steel Corporation unaware that in 1960 he would move to Pittsburgh and begin a 22-year career with U. S. Steel.
Four children were born to Tom and Mary; James in 1948, Janet in 1950, John in 1954 and Joseph in 1956. Mary died on July 12, 1999, her 77th birthday, due to complications of her many years struggling with Parkinson’s disease.
After Mary's passing in 1999 due to complications of Parkinson's disease, Tom found love again with Joan Dawson, and they shared over two decades of companionship.
Tom is survived by three children, James (Kristi) Wiley of Menlo Park, California, Janet Wiley, and John Wiley of Pittsburgh, two grandchildren, five great-grandchildren, and three great-great-grandchildren. One son, Joseph Wiley, preceded him in death.

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@patrickabramowich1629
@patrickabramowich1629 7 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure of getting acquainted with Tom through his partner Joan. He was always the pleasant, articulate, thoughtful person in this video. He talked about his extraordinary experiences without any bit of boasting or exaggeration. I’m grateful that I got to discuss his service with him briefly and express my appreciation for his sacrifices. I was so glad to learn about his early life in this video and hear his witness of faith. He’s now getting to ask St. Peter his question, although it seems that he already knew the answer. God bless you, Tom, and this wonderful set of memories.
@brianrobertson1211
@brianrobertson1211 Жыл бұрын
It's because of people like you that people like me are free. Thank you.
@loveshisharley
@loveshisharley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing interview. This airman’s account of his experiences was awesome after so many years.
@zz2ipper
@zz2ipper Жыл бұрын
I reccommend this. The guy speaks well and explains clearly
@Joelontugs
@Joelontugs Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service
@davidlourensz4822
@davidlourensz4822 Жыл бұрын
I had that experience of having a massive problem and praying and my room turned into a warm cozy feeling, it was very nice indeed. God bless you Tom for your story, I wish I could meet you in person or talk to you. I really enjoyed this and watched the whole video non-stop. The photos at the end of the video were really great with the medals you got. Praying for your good health and happiness - Kind regards, David. From Perth, Australia.
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir ' My Father was U.S. AF Korea 1950-53 , My Sisters passed away during Covid-19 Right at The Start there was a bright light glowing and I could see my sisters son's at the grave yard they are U.S. Army Twins . My Cuz's Vietnam , Gulf War 1 & 2 I pray alots my self and live on U.S. Naval Base since 2013 to present to be close to family United States Armed Forces. I met a B-29 WW11 Pilot in Florida in 2012 I Was Just Like Wow Like Meeting A Movie Star Or Rock Star.
@johnbelus7828
@johnbelus7828 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir. I hope you get your answer from St. Pete.
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine the enemy hun coming up on your rear or sides and you are restricted from firing and just have to observe and take it.
@pabuzzard1113
@pabuzzard1113 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, for your service to our country. It is the men &women like you who have made our country great. Happy 100th birthday very soon sir & Maui the good Lord grant you a healthy life & the many blessings you so well deserve. You look much younger than your years! Good bless you! We live not far from your Ohio beginnings, in the Erie, PA area. Again, thank you.
@johngilbert6036
@johngilbert6036 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service.
@rodbutler4054
@rodbutler4054 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service in the greatest generation. Your story reminds me of the movie title "God Is My Co Pilot".
@williamlaforge4517
@williamlaforge4517 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview! Thanks for sharing- very informative and Thomas is great…
@gregtharp9355
@gregtharp9355 Жыл бұрын
I was born in Ashland in 1947, and my borther born a year earlier, we both gradulated from Ashland High School. We are both R/C pilots and also hugh WW2 greatest generation admireres. Thank you for posting this video. Your dad was intersting to listen to and a great representitive of AShland County. Thanks again Grag.
@sharonwhiteley6510
@sharonwhiteley6510 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service and sharing your experiences during WW2. I hope you eventually find out the answer to who said "Pull Up".
@brachio1000
@brachio1000 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@johngaither9263
@johngaither9263 Жыл бұрын
A neighbor was a B-17 pilot trainer during WWII. He started early in the war and did so nearly to the end. He requested transfer to combat several times, but it was denied each time. By 1944 he began to wonder what the hell was happening to all the pilots the school was turning out. Not until after the war ended did he learn how many of the pilots and crews he trained had been lost over Germany.
@accousticdecay
@accousticdecay Жыл бұрын
Wow. What a guy!
@jimbeckwith5949
@jimbeckwith5949 Жыл бұрын
You know what, 10 missions? Experienced? My god they threw them guys up with no experience and called them experts. Poor guys. You can't be an expert at anything after doing it only 10 times. Our UK/USA nations just treated these lads as cannon fodder. It took me 16 lessons to pass my motorcycle test, exactly same with the car. And I was still a shit driver on both before a couple of years more experience. I marvel at these guys. The Greatest Generation. I and my kids thank them not only for their service, but for our English freedom.
@anthonystoakley8287
@anthonystoakley8287 11 ай бұрын
My dear departed grandfather was a Lancaster pilot RAF WW2 2 tours 60 trips and operation mana and they brought POWS home after the war on reserve he went back in and was in the Berlin Airlift flying a Lancaster converted to a fuel Tanker he said that was worse than the War God Bless you all the greatest generation ever
@TheJimbo961
@TheJimbo961 Жыл бұрын
I would like his opinion Mr,Wiley has on the British Lancaster.
@johngilbert6036
@johngilbert6036 Жыл бұрын
I was in 4th Infantry Division in Vietnam and we could sleep through outgoing rounds and wake up for incoming rounds.
@wayneguffy866
@wayneguffy866 Жыл бұрын
It was the same for me. My hooch mate would sleep through everything. 😵‍💫
@ddtrahan
@ddtrahan 7 ай бұрын
I found a nice 4th ID watch from the Vietnam era.
@davidwilburn6314
@davidwilburn6314 6 ай бұрын
Wow, some nice new tidbits coming forth from this first-hand account which I've never heard before, even after being a WWII aviation nut for countless years. Ex: first time I heard the bit about Germans in unmarked Fforts trying to wiggle their way into US formations!
@ddtrahan
@ddtrahan 7 ай бұрын
Reverence to Mr. Wiley, he passed today. Today Mr. Wiley knows who told him to pull up extending his life another 80 years. I googled his name and state for an autograph and it stated he passed 17 Jan 2024. Damn
@jamesnormanwiley
@jamesnormanwiley 7 ай бұрын
A funeral service to honor Tom Wiley's remarkable life will be held at 11 am on Monday, January 22, 2024, at Christ Episcopal Church. Tom will rest next to Mary at Mt. Royal Cemetery in Pittsburgh. Contributions in his name may be made to Christ Church (christchurchpgh.org) or Veterans Breakfast Club (veteransbreakfastclub.org). To leave a memorial visit www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/pittsburgh-pa/thomas-wiley-11628840.
@avalanche9026
@avalanche9026 7 ай бұрын
May rest in peace.
@jamesnormanwiley
@jamesnormanwiley 7 ай бұрын
Not dead yet - but no longer mentally sharp
@jamesnormanwiley
@jamesnormanwiley 7 ай бұрын
Died peacefully January 17, 2024
@davidwilburn6314
@davidwilburn6314 6 ай бұрын
Why did he continue to call the rear horizontal primary control surfaces "ailerons"??
@ddtrahan
@ddtrahan 7 ай бұрын
Wow what a story! God, God’s, the Universe wanted him and his crew alive. Exceeded the flight time of the plane, $m& got a whisper from the heavens to, “Pull up” saving all life’s!
@ronaldwprovo5530
@ronaldwprovo5530 Жыл бұрын
i was Germany 1962 to1964
@markhonerbaum3920
@markhonerbaum3920 Жыл бұрын
This proximity fuse ,I thought though not made in the U.S was first used by U.S.aginst the Japanese ✈ You're saying it was first used by the krouts against us.
@RB-bd5tz
@RB-bd5tz Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to "bursting flak" at 54:42 or "two types of guns" at 1:04:18? German anti-aircraft shells could be set to explode at whatever altitude they figured the bombers were at.
@choppergirl
@choppergirl Жыл бұрын
Oooo, ooo, I have some questions! How many people did you k1ll? How many of them did you know? how many of them wronged you personally? How many were civilians?
@jamesnormanwiley
@jamesnormanwiley 8 ай бұрын
My father was a believer in the USA's "strategic bombing" ideals - he was comfortable with bombing "military targets" rail yards, bridges, military production factories, oil refineries, etc. Of course, he knew that there were people he had never met and never wronged him personally who were killed. Before we lost him to dementia, we took him to the areas that he bombed and he talked with survivors of WWII - he understands civilians had nothing to do with the decisions of Hitler and his military commanders. The British did bomb civilians in Europe - they thought it was the best war tactic. The US did not target civilians or cities in Europe and only started bombing civilians and cities when WWII went to Japan... My father strongly believes in God and knows that there will be some discussions at the pearly gates. War is a slippery slope. I'm glad I avoided any involvement. It sucks.
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesnormanwiley My grandfather escorted those bombers... on 171 missions... in a P-39 / P-47 / P-38
@jamesnormanwiley
@jamesnormanwiley 8 ай бұрын
@@choppergirl My father was extremely grateful for the fighter escorts. 171 missions? WOW!
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesnormanwiley Probably not so much, the people down below. Particularly the chickens, who got painted green. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g92GnLZluMy1g5s.html
@ddtrahan
@ddtrahan 7 ай бұрын
Ridiculous questions.
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