Thanks for watching, brother! Glad it's been helpful

Thanks Chris! This was a really hard topic to teach. It's hard not to drone on with numbers but also get the point across and demonstrate the concept. I can't tell you how much the feedback means!

Thanks for the support brother, glad the videos are helpful!

Thanks for watching! I appreciate the feedback brother!

Sat on the total station a few days laying out a 5 acre site of curb and gutter. My partner and I took turns on the dumb end. We were taking 385’ shots with 1’ story pole. He and I on the end of islands on shot number 5 just stabbed the story pole in and hit the point to .001’ on line and distance

Thank you! These are hard to cover while keeping it at least mildly interesting...

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Absolutely! Thank you for watching

Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it! You know, that's how I learned a lot of my skills too when I was starting out. I'd sit and watch KZfaq videos of guys operating. Watching and learning, it's the best way. Let me know if you have any specific questions I can help with!

@@DieselandIron Good morning. Im sure questions will arise in my near future, and i am very grateful for the opportunity in receiving ur help. Thank you. I wish you a happy monday and a wonderful week. Not sure if u know this, but one of the Heavy Equiptment Colleges here in Cali (i have personally attended this school) they highly recommend your channel for a post grad refresher. Thats pretty cool bro. 😎

@@nicollekennedy1100 feel free to reach out to me if you've got questions going forward. You can shoot me an email at contact@dieselandironproductions.com. Thanks for the info on the school recommending my content. That's really exciting to hear. It really amazes me how far this channel is reaching

I'm glad it was helpful!

Thank you and thanks for always commenting!

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Absolutely! Let me know if you've got more questions.

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Thanks brother!

Thanks for watching and congrats on the new career!

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I appreciate you flipping over to my channel! This was an interesting video to make. Once you start getting into the numbers I was confusing myself and had to do a couple takes😂😂

Surveyors don't need this! Hammerheads and tractor drivers need new tapes!

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My man!

You can get story rods in metric units rather than feet and tenths. Metric is the way to go if you're not in the US. Way easier than the complicated system we've created....

To be honest I've never even heard the term "survey feet"

Amen to that!

I hear this all the time. What makes it your preference?

@@dblood8529 well, assuming he has ten fingers / toes...

@@dblood8529 It's just simpler and easier. It's why the metric system is predominant.

If you are unable to do the math from the videos provided I'd be happy to jump on a video call with you for a fee. Let me know if you need some help or shoot me an email at contact@dieselandironproductions.com

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8ths and 10ths are not the same thing. 2" is actually .17, not .16, and 3" is .25 May not seem like a big deal, at first, but it may have a significant impact over long distances depending upon what you're doing.

Appreciate it bruh ...

1” = .083

You have to dig a hole that is 2x2 but your benchmark is at an elevation of 100.68 feet and the bottom of footer is 95.72 feet. That's where this comes in. While builders may use feet and inches, pretty much every dirt guys uses tenths because of how much easier it is to do the math. Most of your engineering prints will come with elevations listed in tenths as well so you're going to have a nightmare on your hands using an inch rod on a dirt job.

@@DieselandIron ok. Thanks. I just need to get me a rotary laser level and start practicing with it.

What job site are you on that you need to have 0.4" of accuracy?

@@DieselandIron not on a job site I was looking at something online that says it's 0.4" inches , So I was trying to figure out what that would be on a tape measure size-wise so I know if the part will fit

Go through my Down & Dirty series and search for "elevations." I should have two or three videos that will walk you through that process. The stick you are referring to is a grade rod or a story pole. If you are using GPS then it is called a rover.

Correct. If you wanted to get hyper specific it would be 3.7 inches. Good job on the math!

3 3/4" 3's and 4's are dozens. *That includes the sixes.

There's a lot to unpack here Don. First of all, this is a beginner video meant to help people understand the principals of converting between tenths and inches. If you want to be as accurate as you propose, don't round at all. My second thought is, what project are you working on where a 1/2" variance in grade is going to make or break the project? Generally when you need that degree of accuracy you aren't using a laser and grade rod. Even GPS systems will have variations of 1/2" in certain conditions. Bear in mind, this is a dirt channel. If we were constructing a building foundation then of course we would want to dial in with extreme accuracy but your example is a slope for a hill or ditch. I don't think anyone would complain if I'm within 1/2" of accuracy. If you are an engineer, yes, complete accuracy is paramount. As a guy in the field everyday I can tell you that being within a 1/2" is perfectly acceptable 99% of the time.

Hi again, you are spot on with your reply, and Thank you! I was referring to foundations, and buildings, and of course would never accept more than 1/8+- for FFE... I COMPLETELY AGREE that 1/2 inch in dirt work is ok.. I am not an engineer, I am an A General Contractor... I like your videos and share them with the guys to help keep an open mind, and see that there is more than One way to accomplish the task... THANK YOU AGAIN!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND BE SAFE! DON SULLIVAN

@@cindysullivan4265 I appreciate you watching and sharing! Happy holidays Don!

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Is there something specific you're looking for? I have a video planned but I want to make sure I cover the content you're wanting.

@@DieselandIron maybe just another video going slower or showing more examples

I'm just gonna keep watching over and over until I understand

@@godisgreat5141 let me know if you need help and I can work with you via email

Sorry. I did as best I could to make it headache free 😅

@@DieselandIron - Don't worry! His headache was the Result of using a "Smart Phone" too much! 😳😁🤭

I don't have a video on cut sheets but I do have this gem for you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocqqlrhyzLuYlmg.html Let me see what I can do on the cut sheets video as the season winds down

Hey...that's actually a really good point. Thanks for the comment!

That's a great concept. You know, now that you mention it, I think a system that also allows you to easily convert between units of volume and area would do really well. Some sort of easy....tracking metric....we....we could call it the metric system! Wait.....

@@DieselandIron are you thinking what I’m thinking …… parallel world!

Meters

We, as Americans, like to take the simplest of tasks and make them near impossible. Then we can turn around and brag about how smart and awesome we are because we can do complex math problems....even though they are completely unnecessary! 😂😂 Thanks for watching! Say a prayer for me while I go try to cook and convert a quart into cups and then into teaspoons! 😂😂

I was just thinking the same thing. Making a grade stick into tenths is COMPLETELY unnecessary! I'd rather just stick to inches when finding grade or finish floor heights.

Wait til you hear about the difference between survey feet and international feet lol. It's definitely not the best system.

You are correct at all of your time stamps. I need to remake these videos when I have time to sit down and dedicate more time to them. That being said while I did screw up my words the concepts are sound.

Great point! Thanks for sharing. It's interesting to see the different ways people think about these problems and break them down. That's a great way to think about it.

@@DieselandIron ya for sure just showed your video to my class.... im now an instructor for the ohio laborer's union...thanks for the video would love to see a video on cuts and fills with actual grade stakes and lathe....hard to find on here....especially now that im not in the field anymore to make my own.....so maybe something to think of....great video again keep making more!

@@anthonystrassell1643 that's awesome that you've decided to move into the education field. We need more of that. More actual operators that are in a position to instruct. Once the work season fires up let me go see if I can find a job site around here that has some good Cut & Fill stake examples and make a video. Thanks for the support brother

on my opinion engineer scale is way easier to work with , any elevation from the ground down we used (civil plans ) engineer scale, from the ground up inches.

@@homelaptop3779 if we had join the world and gone to the metric system than everyone's lives would be easier😂😂

64 feet is 64 feet so we will ignore that for now. We want to multiply 7.3 x 1.2 (because a tenth is 1.2 inches and we have 7.3 tenths) which gives us 8.76 which is 8 3\4 inches. Your elevation in feet and inches is 64ft 8 3\4 inches.

@@DieselandIron I am confused about the 64 because I setting up a drain main hole and the hole structure is about 13 feets

@@nelsonanas1140 What you gave me was an elevation that you wanted converted to inches. If you are looking to figure out differences in elevation then you would need to know your hub elevation and your manhole floor elevation. Take the difference between those numbers and you will have your cut depth.

Good idea! Thanks for sharing.

Good god man. How much mathin' do you have going in that head of yours?

The fact that I have to make a video on how to convert tells you exactly how efficient the imperial system is😂😂

Good luck with that on excavation prints! Tenths are WAY easier when you are translating up and down the rod.

Hey Diesel & Iron, For the heavy equipment operators out there using the decimal system...fantastic..but for the thousands of guys out there using lasers on their own excavating projects, using inches & feet is just fine. I remember when the government was going to change to the metric system back in the 1960's...never happened. Maybe 3/4 of the world uses meters & litres, so what.. we (USA) uses gals. & Inches, and that's OK with me. No disrespect to you man.

I agree, whatever works for you. That being said, you just made my mind melt with your method and I'm still trying to uncross my eyes.

In a perfect world that would always be the case

I need to remake this video due to a number of small errors I made during recording. The main thing here is to get the concept of how the math works. On most dirt sites a difference in .01 in elevation won't be a deal breaker. You only get down to that margin of error when working on major highway projects where miles of road are being paved and the resulting error could cost thousands of dollars in extra material.

You must be from Europe or never been on a large dirt site here in the States. Every large job uses tenths instead of inches. Rounding absolutely works when your tolerance is 1.2 inches of accuracy. Mathematically rounding up or down by 1/100 of a foot is fudging 1/8 of an inch.

This is 'Merica where we have to bastardize our system to make it look metric....but we will never admit defeat and actually use metric...

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Amen to that!