Michael Elmer is the hardest working professional freehand sharpener, he's honest and speaks his mind about things freely. That what makes this review so great. Thanks for sharing brother

As always,enjoyed vid,thus one was great though,clear,very well put together with great info.thanx man !

Have them. Very impressed. I was over-sharpening with then. Light pressure and very few strokes get you there quickly. Even on Maxamet. These are impressive.

I go through a bunch and find the tightest ones. Love it tight

i saw the title and was like whaaatt?? he likes diamond stones after all!?!? GOod video

thanks for this

I just recently got the Venev Centaur stones for my Tsprof kadet pro, it seems like just when you think you have the BEST...something newer and better comes out. Sooo it will probably be a while before I get those newer stones.😊

I really hope they make these stones in 1x4 for the KME, they sound awesome

Just found this video in September 2021 ! Want to upgrade my edge pro to these new matrix stones ! Experimented with chosera stones too. But these matrix stones seem very interesting.

I have venev diamond stones they stop at 1200 grit . Is it ok to use sharpton pro stones after the diamond . Because the sharpton has a higher grit so to continue the grit progression .I’m new so if question is silly , just my inexperience, ty for your time .

Hi Michael, can you compare these stones finish to Wicked edge diamond stones?

Diamond and cbn stones are great when you get good manufacturers even plates I use plates for different things and steels and times then waterstones ex on a steel like s110v that likes a sawblade coarse edge I use a diamond plate cause the edge you get off of them is usually more toothy or if I don’t feel like flattening somthing and want to be lazy then I use them etc

Michael, I picked up Trend diamond stones at Blade Show 2018. 3" W 8" L in 180, 300, 600, 1,000 grit. My goal was to be able to sharpen large kitchen knives. The stones cut super fast. On and off I practice on thrift store knives and my skill level is getting better. I recently purchased Spyderco ceramic stones. The medium grit has arrived, the fine and super fine stones are on the way. At this point I can get the knives "sharp enough" however I am years away from the edges that come off my KME. Now for the QUESTION: Is it just me or do the ceramic stones cut and behave much different from the diamond plates? The ceramic "Medium grit" Spyderco stone seems to load up fairly quickly and the scratch pattern is more like a very fine diamond plate. The ceramic stone gives a very very fine result when used wet. It is almost like it becomes a different grit stone when lubricated. (water / dish soap / splash of oil) Thanks for the video. It helps me a lot to hear you talk on the topic. : )

What grits should u buy?

If your liking the bonded diamonds you REALLY NEED TO TRY Metallic bonded cbn. I got a set custom made in 3x8 inch size (Perks of having family in Russia that can go to the factory and order them for me) about two months ago and literally since I have gotten them I haven't touched another stone. They are far and away the best stones I've ever used even blowing BBB super vitrified diamond stones out the water.

Perfect for my ceramic knife :D

Hey Mike I have been watching your channel for a long time and have learned a lot. I wanted to ask you a question about stones and also a knife that I'm having trouble getting an edge on to make it cut well. The stone I use the most is a 2 sided stone that is 1k grit on one side and the other side is blue that is listed as 6k grit. I'm having problems with getting a bow in the stone. What's the most cost effective way to fix that? Also on this knife that I'm having trouble with it is made by tac force and it looks like a two sided edge but only has a single cutting edge on it. The heads itself is a thin cutting area and comes to kind of a speer point. And for some reason I just cant match the bevel on it to make the knife sharp. I've tried stones and other type of sharpeners but can't get it sharp. Any advice or ideas on how to fix it?

Wish they made larger sizes :/ I'm starting to hand sharpen and need to get some good stones, using my KME stones freehand sucks.

Don’t like that detent?:). My drop point was the same at first for about a month.

Edge Pro has a 1200 grit stone.

there is also a 4k grit one

Kinda cool that you zoomed in with your apple watch

I agree with you and the dmt plate. The choppy finish just wasn't suited to my liking. I do have the venev stones and prefer the finish, but recently have picked up gritomatics organic bonded CBN stones, mind blown. Cuts fast like diamond and clean, crisp finish like aluminum oxide. The 5k stones finish on 204p, rex45 ect. Mirror finishes almost as bright as my 10k aluminum stones. I've never commented on any of your videos and have zero credibility in professional sharpening, but I'd give cbn a shot. I was certainly surprised.

Yeah, I tried to middle finger flick my microtech socom elite, and damn near ripped off my fingernail. That detent is solid as a vault.

Michael you probably have tried bar keepers friend and magic erasers-Mr. clean- that de-swarfs the diamond bonded stones non-destructively, but maybe your readers have not. I’ve probably done a hundred edges on my 1x6 venevs and they still stick together by water when put face to face. So they are still flat.

Where can I find these??

Great vid. I will check these out when i have the funds available. I have tried the edge pro shaptons and i really dont like them.

Are they splash and go? Or soaking stones?

What do you think about the kme system?

Diamonds can also be a boys best friend!

Whst do you have against my beloved KME?? As I am useless free handing, it's my only way to get my knives to where I want them...😭😭😭 You made me sad, mate!! 😂😂😂😂 Stay sharp and cheers!! 🍻🍻

I left my diamond in water with the other edge pro stones just to keep them all in one place and the 2300 diamond warped and separated from the backing. Guess I won’t do that again oops

Glad u changed your mind! and now u know aluminum oxide ceramic whetstones are just dated! Maybe u can purchase 6k 8k Naniwa diamond bonded stones. 150.00 each but for a professional sharpener u prob need them for the higher polish

I sharpen from the comfort of my toilet.

Venev stones chew steel like butter.

Next you’ll come around and say 20cv is definitely not the best choice for edc steel!!!!!

YAK YAK YAK YAK YAK BLA BLA BLA YAK YAK BLA BLA BLA this would be a lot more interesting with a lot less talking. Just my observation .