greg played his cards well, if shiv didnt give his name to tom he wouldnt have known it was him but still greg didnt really betray him he didnt told them about the interview of tom but just the conversation of mattson and his assistant i'm sur tom was proud of him since he was the one teaching him

But it was kinda because of greg that shiv came to know that tom will be ceo. She was ready to vote against mattson. Tom is ceo because of greg

Tom's mistake was lying to Greg just to torture him. It nearly cost him the job.

Greg knew he would be safe no matter what, because you need Greggs to make a Tomlette

@@IwinMahWay I disagree with your assessment that Tom is CEO because of Greg. Greg is not on the board and did not vote ---- Shiv voted YES to dissolve the company (with Roman's blessing). In addition, Shiv unwittingly promoted Tom as a candidate for CEO during her own talk with Matsson when Tom's name came up. Tom, himself, told Shiv that he was going to be Matsson's new CEO. Shiv only knew, through Greg and Kendall, that she was not chosen by Matsson.

And Tom is? How's that?

@@livinthefilm We have not seen any other character do actual work in four seasons. Tom is always burning them midnight oil. The fact that he is always sleepy and tired is why he was chosen.

​@@livinthefilm tom was quite literally chronically sleep deprived grinding away for the company

Tom is the new face of atn, just watch eps 8 ending. He called manken as president. And he's good front face and punching bag for Matson dirty work and he's not related "related" but still related to old family owner, which is perfect

Also he gonna do what he maston told him, like a good dog, unlike shiv, just listen to Tom's interview with mattson

Well I’m sure they’ll reconcile being they are siblings and take PGN as planned. Everyone wins - thanks to Shiv.

@@christopherng5085 This is not a win...not even for Shiv.

​@@Emy-fv5ny lol we'll never really know unless they do a sequel/spinoff/continuation, but based on how things shook down in this episode I highly doubt Kendall will ever do business with Shiv again (or vice versa). There's no way they get in on PGN together, and even if they try to reconcile and go for it, Tom and Mattson will probably double the offer and swoop in just to spite them 😂

@@DarthSidious7 Do they have to do a sequel to show things were not so good for them?! They are still have their billions thou 😏

​@@pinheadlarry8688 it's a tragedy for shiv she ended in an emotionless relationship while having no real power

Boar on the top floor.

He can now call the game whenever she wants and gets to choose who is a boar

Dude 😂😂😂

He is just a name though. Matson can do whatever he wants to him whenever he wants even the boer on the floor in paticular

Tom is just a puppet of Mattson. Mattson gave him the job because he is completely servile to power. If Matsson ever tells him he wants to play boar on the floor, Tom will oink for him just like oinked for Logan.

he fell down the stairs but did not die, now castrated and dressed as a wife, he is condemned to be Tom's whore he fell down the stairs but did not die, now castrated and dressed as a wife, he is condemned to be Tom's whore

Black dot on the forehead.......................red dot on the crotch.

I swear if i had to choose between Greg's addiction past and this new corporate future I'd choose the addiction no questions asked. Capitalism is a poison even when you're rich

@@ArabTheMan Sure comrade, enjoy the paradise of North Korea or Cuba. Free healthcare, free college, free rent, free concentration camps. Capitalism is awesome. Is it fair? Nope, but guess what? Life isn't effing fair! I'm an introvert, you're an extrovert, you have an advantage. See? Capitalism is the same way.

I was thinking this the entire time.

He's got the big guy now to make sure he doesn't jump into a lake

me and my mom were like "any minute now" whenever they included the window in the shot, there's no way that wasn't intentional

@@DragonHotCoffee lmao my brother kept nudging me thinking it was gonna happen every like 3 seconds

I thought for sure that was going to happen

nah man tom is good don't get me wrong but rom was the best choice. Buuut he was too much of a pushover for his siblings and he got passed over.

@@ChristosGoulios How?

yes and everyone underated him , treat him like greg. That why Grey always his sporus

Tom’s also the only one who u could argue is maybe probably a good person

Tom is a puppet. He will have no real power & will eventually be sacrificed when needed. Deep down, he knows he's still a loser. That isn't his goal. Like his marriage, he only wants the illusion of power & happiness. It's the reason he spared Greg. Tom will always need someone to hang his shit on.

They all snakes they all lost in a way

Please elaborate the brutal and cold life ahead of Tom.

@@nont18411Tom being totally cucked to Matsson, living in a loveless marriage, having absolutely no soul?

@@jakeistired what’s he gonna do with a soul anyways?

​​@@jakeistired there are no CEOs with a soul

And sometimes not shredding the documents.

Nero and Sporus

That's right! Greg will forever be Tom's whipping boy and I love it. Greg like Shiv isn't as cunning as they try to be.

He didn't 'win,' but he got exactly what he wanted 'the bottom of the top'

But he didn't lose either, if Tom didn't help him he would probably go back to the mascot suit from the first episode and be poor again.

I think part of that is from being 'self made' as it were in the business acumen, he wasn't a Roy blinded by what they see as theirs for the taking. He wanted to let himself get comfortable and just be the Husband to a Roy. Shiv unintentionally helped create this persona but Tom just had the knack for it too. In the end, she falls right back to him as a business arrangement and he's the one on top of the mountain.

Yes. To borrow a phrase from Gerri. "How does this best serve my interest?"

using silence effectively is really the underrated weapon that the Roys did not understand. Shiv asks for a moment to think about her vote. Tom, or anyone in Kendall's position would let her have her time and space to think clear. Ken hung himself when he walked into that room

Tom in Season 2 is completely a broken man and not only that he got humiliated the most by the Roys and even when he tried to stand up to Shiv, Shiv keeps bullshiting and gaslighting him by being Girl Boss. Season 3 Tom is the moment when he starts to shine from offering himself to be in prison, being closer to Logan more even Logan mistakenly calling him "son" even though he's Logan's son-in-law, learn how to survive in prison with prison food even learning it from prison blog (okay that's pathetically hilarious), following whatever Logan said even accompany him till the end. Technically, Logan has won by naming Mattson as his true successor and Mattson needs a figurehead on the company to be under his control which is Tom. Both Logan and Mattson see Tom as hardworking and an honest man while the siblings are totally morons and incompetent. Tom and Greg are playing 4D Chess while the siblings are playing Checkers.

you'll always go faster than someone who is trying to fight the current.

Everyone that isn't self employed is human furniture. Shit rolls downhill

Greg is worse than human furniture.

​@@pfhrmb The creepy self-importance in your comment is hilarious.

​@@HomoChomsky I'm not self-employed. Shit rolls in my direction. There is no creepy self-importance other than what you project onto me.

Human furniture that makes $200k a year and lives rent-free in Kendall's apartment.

😂😂😂

That was too damn funny😂

This is what I was thinking, too. --Why he sent Roman from the meeting with Mattson. Plus, Logan liked Tom (as much as he liked anyone) / said he'd remember the offer to go to jail for him, which none of the kids were interested in doing.

I agree! It also seemed like this is what he wanted, especially when Logan told Tom, “I will remember” and he called him “son”

"I fucking win" - Logan in Italy

he got everything he wanted, his children hated him

he didnt win

Roman was the only Waystar|RoyCo CEO in the blg. Kendall walked out. Shiv was just a board member.

Roman also was the one who wanted it the least, u could tell he always knew deep down inside he didnt truly want it, he was always getting pulled back into the business by logan and his siblings, u could see the relief in his body when he admitted once and for all that him and the siblings are bullshit

He was the only one at the end who you would believe could move on and the decision would work out for him whereas the others will forever cling on to something abstract and fight and scheme.

It's also ironic how Roman and Connor who mostly being abused by Logan a lot (Roman Physically and Connor Mentally for being ignored since he was a kid) who mostly sticking up with Logan a lot on whatever his decision is, are the one who can live happily without being pressured anymore. Connor is happy with Willa and Roman in the end can do whatever he wants. While Shiv and Kendall who mostly likes to rebel and stand up to Logan are miserable. Shiv becomes Tom's prisoner either in marriage and in company and Kendall is left alone with no friends and family.

He looks like he fits. I knew he was the best one for the position so this came full circle

Gave me chills when the intro music started playing along with his entrance

One of my favorite scenes ❤

He feels like a watered down Logan. Especially with how he started responding to people he didn't feel were important in the moment. Dismissing Hugo with more of a noise than a word, and saying "no, no" when Shiv tried congratulating him in their last car ride

@@self-proclaimedcomedian1037 Although, I was in Shiv's camp (yes, because she was a woman and it seemed that the writer's were really out of ideas for a woman in this series (that she was written as foul as possible). It's always the Lady MacBeth scenario. I thought that Tom telling Siobhan "No, No" was because he knew that it was her YES vote that got him the job and, as his wife, he really expected her in his corner at crunch time. If Rava and Kendall were in the same predicament, Kendall would have expected Rava to vote the same way. Hugo knew he was on Matsson's Kill List and he wasted no time in brown nosing. Tom was not having it.

Makes it up for Velma.

Goodbye and farewell to the Roy’s and Barry Berkman. It’s been one hell of a ride.

The Idol? Countless GOT spinoffs? It's all down hill from here

Boy, Barry did amazing. The fact that Bill Hader directed some of the best action scenes on TV is astonishing. Bill fucking Hader, he should make his own action movie

HBO is going to get a lot of awards for this awesome show

From feminist to being feminine.

​@@aliyadavid2072 bro y'all fucking weirdos istg

@@aliyadavid2072 From a woman to just a “female”

very well put

​@@aliyadavid2072 oh boy, you must be a joy to hang around with... jesus christ

Also, Gerri is the only old guards who are staying as Frank and Karl deserved their retirement. Also, Gerri is the youngest of the old guards. Tom also keeping Karolina because she's a pro even in the same position as Old Guard. He fired Hugo because Hugo is a snitch and a coward. He keeps Greg because he knows that Greg never taking sides with anyone and Greg is his ultimate wild card.

Yeah He respected his move

Also probably why Mattson is making jokes about him being "Judas" but lets him stay on, they won so bygones are bygones. They know Greg is a useful snake to have

Greg was playing both sides as usual. He sold that information to Ken, but it backfired. Tom still needs an SOB on his side, so Greg gets to keep his job, for now.

@@blucolife Tom and Greg are too codependent to let each other go now.

@@jkta97 That fight they had in the bathroom was awesome, I loved seeing Greg stand up for himself, and slap him back. I think that made Tom respect him.

Great analysis.

Also, Greg didn't know he was betraying Tom, and only did what he did because Tom betrayed him first by lying to him. Tom knows Greg didn't know what he was doing.

It's Arrested Development.

Nah, it's more like the love story between Tom and Greg

But does she even have a career in politics now?

​@@akashreddy2928 she can always restart, she is the wife of ATN CEO, and can potentially run PGN.

@@peter0702 Honestly she is done. All she has to look forward to is being the wife of Gojo Royco CEO's wife. She will try to get an inside track through Tom buts he is no longer looking actively for her affection. It would have been better to become COO or CFO under Kendall after some years of experience. Maintain some degree of influence.

@@akashreddy2928 nah, Ken CEO, Roman CFO, what can Shiv do? She will rank 3 no matter what

@@peter0702 COO, in many cases this position is ranked a bit higher than CFO. So basically second.

End of a golden age of TV. Sad to see it go

NGL, Barry was a bit of a let-down for me.

Two of the best series of hbo

And there's Ted Lasso next Wednesday. 3 top tier TV shows ending in a single week.

Totally. Proud to say we were all a part of something very memorable tonight

They'll be fine, dude.

Had Ken won, they were gonna buy Gojo, so Waystar would be almost in automatic pilot But Yeah, the best thing that could have happen for them was to start with Pierce or something else. Now their relationship is broken

Wait, what did Kendall do to Roman that was so unforgivable? I'd say it's the other way around, Roman's "they are a pair of randos" comment was probably the nastiest shit he's ever said in the entire show, and he deserved way worse than just getting his face squeezed a little for such a comment. Kendall proved to be kinda pathetic when he tried to pretend like he made the whole waiter-story up, but Shiv and Roman are definitely the ones who wronged _him_ here.

@@dobadobadooothey are probably referring to Ken ripping out Roman’s stitches

They have each other, they're family. They don't have to work together to be together. Logan was arrogant and thought he was going to live forever.

But I mean... She *kind of* won? I mean, it is her who crowned her husband, after all.

@@miseendriste6337 Kind of? When you consider how violently Kendall was subordinating Roman (mocking him w the video of Logan and berating him after the eulogy fiasco) and the difficult history between him and Shiv (the Nirvana prank, the misogynistic comments undercutting her, the letter she published, and spearheading her being cut out earlier this season), I can understand how Tom, in her mind, came across as the better option. Still, I think it’s hard to say she’s a winner in anyway since she’s forced to reconcile an impenetrable glass ceiling and become her mother (whether that’s permanent or for the time being, still must be brutal to swallow). To your point, maybe that is her role-being a kingmaker? However bitter the larger loss is, she did sway the sale toward Mattson and, as you mentioned, crown Tom. It’s all just so fucking complicated lol

Shiv chose to become Lady Macbeth. A flimsy Lady Macbeth though.

Yeah same. I'm very much glad we didn't have to see Kendall jump

@@anthonywallace9617 Meet you halfway there but how is she becoming her mother? Tom is just a CEO, he's not the owner. Tom doesn't have any material power over Shiv the way Logan had over his wives. She will still cash out and do whatever she wants with her money, maybe go back into politics because it wasn't until Logan manipulated her telling her that he wants it to be her that she had any real interest in any of this. Throughout the season, we see Shiv and Tom patch up, mend, hurt and fight but also clear the air and in the hours that matter the most, establish trust and be honest to each other. If Tom had not come clean to her, if he wasn't honest to her in the morning of the board meet, then Shiv would have voted no. But being honest to Shiv and coming clean to her, a direct contrast to his betrayal in S3 finale, sealed it for him. Sure, it flustered Shiv, it made her momentarily angry and overwhelmed. But when she thought it through, she genuinely believed Tom is right for the job. And she's right. It wasn't about anything at all. It wasn't about whether she hated Tom more or Kendall more, she checked out and gave up way back when she finds Mattson is canning her. I sincerely believe she was genuine in choosing who was right for the job.

He is the eldest boy!

@@iansteenblock5010 The Conheads would disagree ...

Shiv did not do anything for Kendall other than to see that he got more money from Matsson due to the sale of Waystar|RoyCo. He can now create his own empire, with a big financial headstart and without anyone looking over his shoulder.

lol he knows greg is a person you can not trust and he will certainly not let him in a position where he could hurt him again. Maybe he let him at the company to clean the toilet and be the clown. Who has respect for a snitch ?

@@markusklein7222 Have you learned nothing from this show? Who did Logan end up adding to the will after seeing him snitch on him? That's right, Greg. These guys value the right type of snitch.

You can trust a snitch to be disloyal. At a long term, it is safer than relying on someone that you never know when they will betray you

@@markusklein7222 They're all snitches and backstabbers. Look at how Kendall fought so hard for the Gojo deal, only to back down and try to kill it. Look at how Gerri didn't report Roman's sexual harassment, but kept the dick pics and promised to use them if Roman messes with her. Look at Vought, Ken bought it only to kill it later. Logan was right, his kids are not serious people.

@@edutrain2726 Highest paid assistant in history

Tom told him he would be at the "bottom of the top" last season and that's where he is now. Greg is happy

He still has a job even though he is an awkward moron and only slipped into that company because his Grandfather is on the Board and his Great Uncle Logan was the Founder and former CEO. Tom basically called him the world’s highest paid personal assistant making $200K usd/yr.

@@Sam19509 he didn't want that, he ended up being tom's dog

Still technically got what he wanted from the beginning of the show. “Bottom of the top”

Yeah but he keeps the job, and may get promotion. He started from a mascots

@@Sam19509 he didn’t get the job, he got fired since Tom himself said he fucked it and Matsson doesn’t trust him. But Tom said that he now has more money (refereeing that he may help him financially still).

Please explain how a woman with Shiv's money gets stuck in a marriage. Thanks,

Remember they still have a deal with The Pierce when they promised them they will buy 10 Billion Dollars but I think they'll forget about it as they're not together anymore.Also, PGM is going to be bankrupt someday as they're still doing old school way on media an Nan Pierce has no kids to continue her legacy only her cousins and relative and Waystar is going more modern with Gojo. Nan also will be pissed to learn that Tom is the new CEO instead of Shiv as she mostly a hardcore feminist who don't like males, that's why she hates Logan so much and she told Logan that Shiv should be the CEO instead of her brothers and doesn't care that Shiv has no experience in the company and remember PGM falsely announced Tom as the "culprit" of Mecken's election because he's the head of ATN. Same with The Hundred, it's mostly Roman's idea and Kendall wants to involve but Roman is mostly codependent with either Kendall, Logan, or Gerri so he probably won't launch it as he has nobody to mentor him. He's going to be a loner for now. Also, The Living Plus Project will be removed by Mattson as Mattson never agreed with the idea and Kendall who pitched the idea is not in the company anymore.

The utter contempt on her face! Great acting

She is stomaching what she did

I thought that it may have been the face of annoyance that Roman was signing the sale document and not Kendall.

Agree with everything but on the contrary i think Tom becomes what Logan is to Shiv. Shiv always treated her relationships with a certain power dynamic. She either dominates completely or the other person does. Logan being the dominant force led her to seeking his approval whereas S1-S3 she didnt have any respect for Tom, referring him being her “meat toy”. Now the roles had turned, now she has what she is comfortable with being under the shadow of Tom

Tom is a completely different person at the end and Shiv's got no control over him anymore and she knows that... She became Caroline already!!

Their last scene is Shiv bowing down and kissing the ring. She lost the worst imo, becoming a mother to a child she didn't want and in a marriage that Tom was not interested anymore. Sacrificed his brothers for convenience.

Was I the only one during this scene just worrying you were gonna see Ken falling outside of one of those big windows?

She can't control Tom now lmao. She is her mother now.

Skarsgard was really fun to watch this season; he really nailed it. My one fear is that he'll be pitted against Macfadyen for the supporting actor Emmy, because they both deserve it.

pretty sure the pay cut thing was a joke... he's now assistant to the CEO; he'll likely be getting a raise

The dude is getting a raise. The pay cut was lie by Tom that almost cost him the CEO job (he has a pattern of hurting Greg whenever someone hurts him).

"Massive pay cut" lol he's the assistant to the US CEO of a Fortune 500, he'll get 7 figures thrown his way and he has that now on his resume forever. He's good

You know people can quit, right😂

@@GWhite-lv3be And go where? Greg only got this far because he was a relative. His only skill is backstabbing

@@jalenr.6542 Yes. but in any case all caracters are slaves of themselves, they do not know when should quit.

@@GWhite-lv3be Quitting would makes things worse. Greg's fate shows that there are worse things than being fired.

@@WaddleBuff2 Maybe you're right. (PS: Zeta Gundam is awesome.)

I'm more into seeing a Greg spin-off.

I actually like to think it wouldn't be worth a spin-off show. Like Tom runs it like a competent CEO doing whatever Mattson wants to the point where theres no drama and it's just like any other company lol

Explain how that is ironic.

@@Jay-Jones HBO Max became Max after Warner Bros merged with Discovery. Max became official a couple of days before the series finale. Waystar Royco and Gojo officially merged after the votes were 7-6. Im seeing this as ironic as two companies merging for billions of dollars

Sensational

Lol Tom wants her more than ever because he knows Mattson wants to fuck her and she is also carrying his baby.

He already did

If I was Tom, on the wedding, after learning that Shiv cheated on him with Nate, I would just leave her alone on the altar and run away with Greg

Fr dude Hbo gutpunched me twice

@@scottystcloud7086 okay

He might have took shit, but he himself gives shit to Greg. And Greg has to take his shit. I felt bad for Greg, he will not be trusted by Tom. He will be human furniture.

She will in the ranking of most hated tv characters of all time. Right next to Joffrey. Made no sense for her sellout her brother, but I guess now she is in position to hurt and betray Tom to get to the top.

@@jblassio Nah. She lost it all. Her baby means nothing... it is not a monarchy, it is a company, and the boss is a tall blonde swede, not a Roy anymore. She'll likely live a short unhappy marriage with a guy who's likely lost all feelings for her, who won't really risk his title for her and whose position in the company could be taken from him on whim. They all "lost" (as in, lost with a few billions still on their bank accounts to do whatever they want for the rest of their lives).

when i have media illiteracy

It changed as soon as Tom told her it was him. If it wasn't him she would've voted no.

​@@jblassio I didn't hate her decision but the more I think about it, she hated Tom and Mattsen so much and the board meeting she just had a snap decision. Seemed out of no where

It’s just him taking orders

Greg is more than fine with that because Tom held up his end of the bargain, Greg is now at the "bottom of the top"

Tom just fulfilled his promise of castrating Greg (metaphorically) so now they're slave boy married after Tom threw his own wife down the stairs. This is the Tom/Greg B plot happy ending. Nero and Sportus reborn

I didn't make the connection, because I was never a big fan of Shiv's choice in clothing. Every once in a while, you would see something "nice." She didn't remind of a Bergdof Goodman shopper, which I am sure she was.

That can and does happen to CEOs who don't control/own major stake in a company. They're all hired guns. It happened to Rhea Jerrell. She displeased the Pierce's by going to see the Roy's without their knowledge, before the family weekend get together, and she was terminated.

“Wow!” *gets shot in the head*

@@msizequeen*Barry theme plays*

Nah, matsson is a shark and defintlry the most like Logan Roy

elon musk mariachi band style