Matt Chandler on Hitting The Wall and Recovering from Burnout

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Ай бұрын

Matt Chandler opens up about hitting the wall in his late thirties, recovering from a dead heart and from brain cancer, lessons he learned from his leave of absence after an Instagram exchange, and gives some incredibly insightful lessons on how to revitalize a dying church.
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Chapters
05:28 - Have You Been Called to Be a Pastor?
09:13 - How Did Growing Up in a Christian Home Shape You?
22:57 - Matt Chandler on Hitting the Wall
24:49 - The Village Church
33:54 - Revitalizing Village Church
41:04 - Pastor Matt Chandler on His Early Mistakes
43:39 - Matt Chandler on His Cancer Journey
54:54 - Having cancer helped me develop resilience
01:02:25 - Billy Graham Rule
01:04:39 - Power Imbalance
01:11:33 - The Secret to Making Your Marriage Work
01:17:43 - The Overcomers

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@beve83 Ай бұрын

I have so much respect for Matt Chandler! Been a long time fan, 10+ years. So great to hear his backstory and know he's still serving the Lord.

@benreed3517 Ай бұрын

Thanks to Matt for a heart felt and honest podcast.

@mauricejchiasson Ай бұрын

Carey. You ARE extremely influential. Look at the guests you get. Matt, Rick Warren? Nobody else on earth could get couple hours with Rick Warren. I'm actually floored that you can get to interview these people.

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

I'm as shocked as you are :)

@user-gw9bj8em1d Ай бұрын

As a ministry leader, former pastor, and current missionary, this podcast is so valuable to help people realize how real pastors and ministry leaders are deep down. We need more leaders to be transparent, authentic, and open - it allows us all feel free to be more truthful about the hardships we endure and how important it is for us to get the help we need to get strengthened and encouraged. Thank you for focusing on this again, Carey. Keep it up! You're making an impact on the battlefield of burnout.

@coffeytnmilk7 Ай бұрын

I really love how Matt has not just encouraged but actively helped his wife to become all that she can be. Many husbands would have their wives whole heart if they did that:) Great podcast!

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@elizabethwollmann1099 Ай бұрын

God is good ! 👏🔥🇨🇦

@valvend Ай бұрын

I love that story with dentist and the foster children.

@lauragb3677 Ай бұрын

Outstanding conversation and questions that made this really interesting.

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Laura

@druidcrafts Ай бұрын

Really appreciate the vulnerability in this episode. Great stuff.

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Hope it was helpful

@fayettewaligorski8132 Ай бұрын

In more ways than I can say. God is using this interview, with the two of you, to help heal some brokenness (long past and more recent) thank you!

@brunopupio4450 Ай бұрын

It’s so encouraging! Thank you

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

I'm so glad!

@weaponsofgrace3269 Ай бұрын

As a young adult pastor trying to grow in "honoring the old" at my church while pressing into what is new, this interview was super helpful. Thanks for all you do Carey. I glean a ton from your interviews. They make me be more introspective with my self so I can lead out of health.

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this and thanks for watching!

@loriturnbull3356 Ай бұрын

I enjoyed this one. I appreciated his honesty as he talked about some of the mistakes he has made and tge way those things have changed him to do life differently. I thought it was interesting what he said about burnout. Recently I have been experiencing alot of anxiety and "big emotions". Hearing him talk about his journey in his late 30s - early 40s resonated with me. I'm in my mid -late 40s and in the last year I have been on a journey of self-discovery. It was interesting to hear somebody else talk of similar things.🙂 What he said about ministry and burnout encouraged me. The anxiety I have been experiencing recently came suddenly. There are monents when it feels like burnout and yet I feel that it's not quite that. When I take time to be still and pray about it, I feel it's about being emotionally tired. It's something the Holy Spirit is using to force me to focus on how my heart and soul are doing and rest. It's also forcing me to be more vulnerable and less guarded. I need people more now. Counseling is helping me to see that though I have issues, I'm also normal. Thanks for sharing this.❤

@mrjasonburris Ай бұрын

One of my favorite episodes… the incredible story and real life experiences shared really connect. Thanks for the vulnerability and lessons learned … I’m a better man because of this podcast.

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@cynthiacassel Ай бұрын

I came to a different page of videos to hear real people and real issues. Thank you for discussing real issues.

@be-lingueanglais Ай бұрын

Thank you for this podcast!

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@ryanlund1868 24 күн бұрын

Great episode. Thanks for putting it together.

@CareyNieuwhof 24 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@JesusLeadershipTraining Ай бұрын

that true I had a great doctor, he was young but he cried when he found I had stage 4 rectal cancer, they were great...but God was there.

@cynthiacassel Ай бұрын

It’s 2024 and I’ve been single, widowed- and celibate. I’m not sure why anyone is trying to shame me about my past since it’s under the blood. God bless you both, pray the Holy Spirit will refresh and renew you. Gotta go cut my grass before another storm.

@valvend Ай бұрын

Good for you Matt to encourage your wife with her spiritual gifts.

@time2pray777 Ай бұрын

It seems like Matt is at a better place, but who really knows he will have to walk the journey like the rest of us and have very good support, I’m glad he has reached out for help and hopefully he’s getting some psychotherapy on hischildhood wound, which probably made him have a lack of the needed attention, so that when he had inappropriate contact with the other woman I know he didn’t say it, but I’m sure there was some romantic and flirting to it or he would have not been put on a leave, I actually don’t think three months is enough. I think that is way too short and I don’t think his staff were harsh on him at all. I think they were a bit too lenient. I think something like this has got to be at least six months if not a year And there’s so much we don’t know what about the other woman is she having problems in her marriage and they’re obviously getting attention with each other that they’re not getting in their marriage and how do their spouses feel about it? I’m sure there’s a lot going on more than anyone will ever tell because it’s so hard for pastors and their wives to talk about this stuff openly and they probably need more healing before they’re gonna be able to share it if they wanna share it. I think it would be good to share more when they are ready because people are struggling with this, married couples do flirt and they get in trouble some are OK and the marriage is saved but some aren’t so this is a very important topic in the church. I’m glad you asked him about this, and you were able to confront what needed to be confronted. I think you had some softball questions to him so I would toughen it up a little bit more, these leaders are in the limelight a lot so they need to be ready in and out of season to answer tough questions if they can’t do it then what are they doing then? Something else I don’t know but I think he might be way too busy but that’s gonna be for him and His family to judge. I hope he’s learn what he needs to do so he doesn’t put himself in temptation again. 🙏🏻❤🙏🏻

@harredondo1 28 күн бұрын

I think it should be said that he makes sure to note SHE started the direct messaging and SHE did so with great frequency - so much so that he brought it up to his wife. Somehow it spiraled to the point where a friend of hers had to confront him over it. When all was said and done, she kind of comes off as the "bad guy" and he received a standing ovation and is thought of as brave and humble. Maybe this is all true but maybe it's more deflection and spin however subtle. I think we've learned to question more because we've been manipulated so many times by people in power.

@cynthiacassel Ай бұрын

I’m not shaped by my past. My past is under the blood. Unless it’s that I chose celibacy since Eddie died. God bless you both. .

@cynthiacassel Ай бұрын

I’m certainly not burned out. Having breakfast. And reading my Bible.

@valvend Ай бұрын

What is Dming?

@CareyNieuwhof Ай бұрын

direct messaging

@AntonioLogan-cm4wx 18 күн бұрын

I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH

@erinharding9326 Ай бұрын

The fact that his explanation for a three month vacation was because of FAMILIARITY. Oh please. Spare all of us.

@JaySmith-rw5kj Ай бұрын

What’s the true story if what he said is not it?

@erinharding9326 Ай бұрын

Hi Jay. The fact that Matt Chandler is controlling the narrative is the problem. He is the only one who benefits, and if the Instagram debacle was harmless then there was no need for elder action, and there was no need for the severing of a friendship. The excuse of becoming comfortable with his friends is really the glaring red flag. He’s promulgating the idea that men and women in harmless relationships can’t be comfortable friends behind the scenes with their pastor.

@Deelitee Ай бұрын

@@erinharding9326I like that he wants all to know that it wasn’t lack of sex that contributed to him hitting that wall!!! 😬🙄🫥

@CC-Neptune Ай бұрын

He doesn’t promulgate that idea, though. He explicitly states that he disagrees with that premise, but that this had nothing to do with simple/infrequent DMs as friends or having to do with church business/leadership, which is why it was unwise. He also didn’t say it was harmless, which is why it did require elder action. Just because this wasn’t ultimately as scandalous and detrimental to Matt as you’d probably hoped doesn’t mean he’s now nefariously “controlling the narrative” in some coverup along with the elders. “Controlling the narrative” might just be your way of saying “Matt didn’t have an affair like I’d hoped so I could relish in his downfall.”

@Deelitee Ай бұрын

@@CC-Neptune what is the timestamp for him saying this?? I don’t think I caught it!

@AntonioLogan-cm4wx 18 күн бұрын

I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH.