I worship the God Of Jesus. Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

Sir how can you believe the Holy Spirit is a separate person and is part of the Godhead when Christ never mentioned him in John 3:16 and John 10:30? both verses that Christ spoke himself(look and see) one on love the other being one in the plan of Salvation. Also Christ never said the Holy Spirit dwelt in him only the Father and the three times the Father spoke he glorified his Son never the Holy Spirit so if he’s co-equal why is he left out?

Wow you go quote 1 Corinthians 8:6 that clearly says the Father is one God not Jesus Jesus is Lord with the Holy Spirit not mentioned at all yet you see the trinity in the verse? My Brother you are spiritually blind

The Trinity doctrine has remained because of stubborn leaders and their deception. Everything changes when the true origin of the Trinity is exposed. The pagan trinity idea entered the second century churches through the Ante-Nicene Fathers, who took their mistaken ideas from a first century Jewish philosopher, Philo of Alexandria.

The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)

GOD never said He is three persons. Jesus never taught a trinity. GOD is ONE person; The Father.

My belief is this, we must believe that God had Son in order to have eternal life. When we believe there is one God that has always existed,we are not believing in the birth of Christ 1 Jn warns those that do not believe the record God gave of his Son. Let me ask one question Did Mary give birth to Jesus? or did Jesus exist before Mary?

The easiest way to defend the trinity is to compare it with what the Bible says about God. If the two agree 100%, then that should confirm that the trinity is based squarely on Scripture. But is that the case? Well, judge for yourself: 1. THE BIBLE says the Father-a single person-is the “only true God.” (John 17:3). 1A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “every Person [of the trinity] BY HIMSELF [is] God.” That’s THREE GODS! 2. THE BIBLE says that “for us there is one God, the Father." (1 Cor. 8:6) 2A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “we worship one God IN TRINITY.” 3. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John @) 3A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “In this trinity, NONE is greater…” 4. THE BIBLE says Jesus is the Son of God. (John @) 4A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “Jesus IS God,” which makes him a different God from the “one God in trinity." 5. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John @) 5A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE say that “the whole three persons [of the trinity] are “co-equal.” 6. THE BIBLE says the holy spirit is not God, but a possession of God and that he gives it to deserving ones. As 1 Thess. 4:8 says: “Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives HIS holy Spirit to you.” 6A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “the holy spirit IS God.” However, A Catholic Dictionary says: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.” It adds: “The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as someTHING, not someONE.” 7. THE BIBLE says that the Father is the ONLY person that “the true worshipers” (Christians) should worship. (John @) 7A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “The trinity in unity is to be worshiped.” So, do the Bible and the trinity doctrine agree on who God is? Absolutely not! As the New Catholic Encyclopedia says, the trinity “is NOT directly and immediately the Word of God."

This is an excellent presentation . I can see that all of the comments opposed to the Trinity are being made by people who are ignorant of what is in Scripture . I see God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit , who are one God as existing eternally with personal distinction from one another . Scripture is clear that there is only one God . Scripture is clear that the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus Christ . Scripture is clear that there is one Spirit .God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit have a personal interaction with one another and with people . It is not necessary to see the word Trinity or persons in the Godhead in Scripture , in order to see the concept of the Trinity . People who post ignorant statements about stubborn people who believe in the Trinity or Jesus never teaching the doctrine of the Trinity are showing how stupid they are . I use the word stupid because there is nothing with any common sense being said . People are not stubborn because they are firm in the belief in the Trinity . Jesus never presented a doctrine that explains the Godhead .He did however speak about God the Father and the Holy Ghost as someone distinct from Himself and in such a way that it is impossible for someone not to see it . There are many people who are opposed to the Trinity because they do not truly study Scripture . If they did , they would not be making their ignorant comments about the Trinity . The doctrine of the Trinity is never going to disappear and God is definitely not going to deliver Christians from the doctrine of the Trinity . Why would God who exists as the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit deliver people from believing in Him as He truly exists ? I used to be a Oneness Pentecostal having been in the UPC and an ALJC . I was convinced that I knew the truth but really what I knew was what I had been taught and what I had heard preached . One day , my eyes were opened to the truth when I learned how to read Scripture and think about what I read . Greg Boyd , a former Oneness Pentecostal wrote a book called Oneness Pentecostals and the Trinity . He presents the Scriptural basis for the Trinity in a very clear way and his book is highly recommended by reputable Bible scholars . Of course , if someone is convinced that the Trinity is a false doctrine , they will disagree with the book . I have noticed that once I came to see that God exists eternally as the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit , and that the 3 are eternal and distinct , not one person has been able to present Scripture to refute what I believe . The reason is because the Holy Spirit inspired the authors of Scripture to write about God the Father , Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit in such a way that people who desire to know the truth about their identity can see it . The reason why many people do not see it is because they do not truly desire to know the true God identified in Scripture .

The only true God is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ and nobody else.

Hello Jesus is the Messiah The Son of God The Son of David The Son of man The man God has chosen to be his anointed king The man God will judge the world through The man God raised from the dead Jesus has a God There is no triune god in scripture Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

Funny how Moses and the prophets never saw a trinity. The God of the OT is Unitarian. Jesus was a Jew. He restated the Shema.: God is One. Jesus worshiped God .Many scholars admit that the trinity is not found in the NT.How does John 1:1 show a trinity when it only mentions the word and God? I noticed that you admitted that it was a later doctrinal teaching of the Church Fathers.

As seen In Trinity Doctrine It states that THE SON (JESUS CHRIST) IS GOD BUT THE SON(JESUS CHRIST) IS NOT THE FATHER. But lets see what the Bible says in Isaia 9:5 (New International Version) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. We Christians all believe as prophecized by Isaiah that The child to be born is JESUS CHRIST, to us a SON (JESUS CHIRST) is given we can see he (JESUS CHRIST) will be called Everlasting FATHER, The Bible clearly states THE SON(JESUS CHRIST) is The Everlasting FATHER thus The Bible is contradicting The Son is not THE FATHER part in The Trinity doctrine or The Trinity doctrine is Contradicting The Bible/The Word of God. The apostle Paul said there is “one Lord, one faith, one baptism.” (Eph. 4:5.). God bless..

Please foregive me for saying this: the doc. of the trinity has done a good job on you, "thus thinks the devil." But let me try & undo that. You see we as Christians can never know Jesus except by analyizing our own experience. With that in mind I want to just quickly show you the difference between us & Jesus. I know a woman sometimes catches things quicker then a man, just like the women at the tomb of Jesus. So here goes: I recieved God's spirit when I was 19. At that time I became just like Jesus always was: a man in the flesh born of Gods Spirit. You see God created a human embro in Mary's womb. That embro was constituted as spirit, soul & body. That embro took on fallen human flesh from Mary who was also a fallen human being, just like any one of us. But, & here is the difference between us & Jesus: the spirit of Jesus within that human embro already had the life of God in it. So for this reason the spirit of Jesus did not need regeneration as ours. In other words Jesus did not need to be born again as we do. For this reason Jesus was God conscious the moment His mind became mature enough to know right & wrong. And in the same way in which God does not expect us to sin when once we receive his precious power or H.S. (he that is born of God sinneth not, 1 Jn.3:9,) in that same way God did not expect Jesus to sin, & He did'nt. He had the power within Him to overcome sin from a child. And praise His name, since He never sinned, He, therefore, became our Saviour & very real example & pattern for living in this life. If you can grasp & understand what I have just said then you will understand what the devils goal was in inventing the doctrine of the trinity. May Christ's blessings be upon you. You, my friend are looking at these Scriptures through trinitarean glasses. (Referring to Isaiah 9:) These Scriptures do not necessitate the doctrine of the trinity. Here I will tell you why: God the Father has made Him (Jesus) Lord & Christ, so He is governor of the universe- "the government is on His shoulder." And, yes the name of Jesus is indeed "wonderful," & indeed He is my wonderful "Counsellor." As far as Him being called the "Mighty God," notice it speaks correctly, namely, it does not say He shall be called the Almighty God, but only the "mighty God." And also, my friend, if Almighty God calls us to fall down & worship Jesus, as God, in His glorified state, then we should have no problem with that. Psalms 2:12 says "kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way." Furthermore these Scriptures are fulfilled as the Hebrew writer quotes God as commanding all the angels to worship Jesus as the Son, Vs. 6 of chap. 1. Then he quotes God as saying to the Son: "thy throne Oh God is forever & ever." Here God Almighty is calling Jesus God, fulfilling the prophesy in Isaiah where it says He shall be called the mighty God. And as far as being called "everlasting Father?" I call Jesus my everlasting Father, but He is not my eternal Father as God Almighty is. Jesus is my eternal brother but not my eternal Father. Those who call Jesus God & God Jesus; who make no distinction between the Father & the Son bring confusion & are of that spirit of antichrist as John says in 1 Jn. 2:22, "He is antichrist who denieth the Father & the Son." The Bible talks about the "only begotten of the Father," John 1:14. And that begetting took place at Bethlehem. As far as the Word being with God. (Referring to 1 Jn. 1:1) That in no way proves a trinitarean God. Again take those glasses off. My Word which goes out from me is also with me, it is no where else; it comes out of me & I associate my self with it; it is me; I identify myself with my word. Well if I can do that how much more can Almighty God who is perfect do that- "and the Word was God." "In the beginning was the word"- in the beginning was the plan of God. Notice it does not say from eternity was the plan of God. That makes all the difference. (So these Scriptures fly in the face of the eternal Son theory). Jesus came into the mind of God sometime before the foundation of the world. If we stretch a line out before us & say this line has no beginning then we can truely say this line is from or comes out of eternity. But, if somewhere along that line we have a demarcation of something new, then, & only then, can we truly refer to that something as "in the beginning. So there is a vast difference between "in the beginning" & "from eternity." I could go on & on, but you must think for yourself. When Jesus was born, Jn. 1:14, that's when the plan or "Word" was fleshed out or came into fulfillment which God had from "the beginning." Paul Shrock Your statement is typical trinitarean. I'm responding, not for yoursake but for others, because you are determined to believe this evil doctrine no matter what evidence to the contrary. Just as I brought out in other comments, you split Jesus in two. But Jesus said things like "of that day & hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels, nor the son, but my Father only." Which side was speaking here? His divine side or His flesh side? You must know something about Jesus that even He Himself didn't know about Himself, hah? No! your theory is all diobolical hogwash! Jesus was a whole person just like you & I. When He said He didn't know the day nor hour of His return that means He as a whole being or person did not know. And also when He died His whole being died & even His Spirit went back to the Father from whence it had come. This is what is referred to a paradise. When He declared to the believing thief on the cross "today thou shalt be with me in paradise He was referring to both of their spirits. These went into safe guarding to the Father. (If we are born again children of God this also happens to our spirit). After 3 days the spirit of Jesus came back & joined His un-decayed body & He was resurrected with an immortal body of nail prints. On the other hand the thief is still awaiting the resurrection. Upon resurrection His spirit will join a brand new immortal body. This is why Jesus is spoken of as being "the first fruits of them that slept," 1 Cor. 15:23. But again, this is why the devil had the doctrine of the trinity invented, namely, so that Christians become blind to all these things- so that the wonderful pattern of which Jesus is for the true child of God becomes destroyed. You say you will not waiver. Well that's because your own heart is deceived. You must have some hidden sin that your deceived heart wants to hold on to. You see the doctrine of the trinity was invented so that Christians can keep on sinning to some degree or another for the rest of their lives. Jesus had committed His whole life & being to the Heavenly Father. But for us that's not possible. That's the trinitareans claim & it is sin. God's word says we should "try the spirits, whether they are of God," 1 Jn. 4:1. It is a spirit in you which blinds you & does not allow you to confess Jesus as a man in the flesh as the rest of humanity or as you & I. The spirit in you makes you believe Jesus is a god or deity coming down from heaven. In this way you, same as the other trinitarian Christians, can have an excuse for whatever sin you are still holding on to, saying, "there was only one man perfect, & that was Jesus, do you expect me to live like Him, I'm only human." The fact that you say I'm only human gives the lie. In other words I'm only human in contrast to Jesus. So your concept of Him as Son of God was unlike us as Sons of God, "He was God becoming man," as though that were possible. This is precisely that spirit of antichrist, which John was speaking about, which would come into the world. The fact that Jesus was man is only given lip service by people like yourself. Of course, you say, He was a man, but you say that without understanding & only because the Bible affirms it. Otherwise, very obviously, your clever lie would be exposed. Some brother wrote: One Doctrine Theology comes from above, but contradicting and opposing views, and alternate opinions, strange doctrines and private interpretations; are from beneath; which cause strife, division, sects, schisms, and heresies which are all part of the great apostasy;....... I responed: The great apostacy took place when the Christian church was transformed into Roman Catholism. That is also when the man of sin was revealed, the great antichrist. He is ruling the world today behind the scene, see Rev. 17:18. Almost all the fathers of the mainline denominations confessed that popery is the seat of antichrist. But now, with ecumenism, of which the Vatican is behind, the "deadly wound inflicted upon the head of the beast," Rev.13:3, is almost healed. But here is my point: Again I remind you, my friend, when the Church was being transformed into Romanism that's when the doctrine of the trinity, which you are still holding on to, was also being formulated. When this doctrine was fully implicated it was forced upon the Christians with the Sword. Many Christians were banished & killed who did not go along with it. This doctrine resulted in "the Church" loosing the true knowledge of the Lord Jesus: it plunged the world into the dark ages of terrible, terrible bloodshed & superstition. This was the fruit of that diabolical doctrine. To make a long story short: the key for unity is the correct knowledge of the Lord Jesus. When we have this knowledge then we will understand that indeed we are brothers & we will be our brothers keeper. From what I hear from you is that you understand something is wrong but even you are then refusing the remedy. You talk about unity but you are still very blind as to how unity is attained to. May Christ open your eyes my brother.

Matt, are you for real, have you watch this video?? Do you really believe what you are saying???

God is one not three. If there were three Gods then which one would take the throne? There would just be chaos everywhere and there wouldn’t be any order in the universe. The reason why some people believe this is because this is the result of Jesus Christ’s original message becoming corrupt over time. And even if it does talk about the trinity in the Bible, this doesn’t matter because there are over 200 different versions of the Bible and it is not in its original form. The final prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to clear up these misconceptions and to re-establish the same pure message that all of the other prophets and messengers in the past have preached. He was sent with the last revelation until the day of judgement which is the Quran. This book is the criterion over all religion and it is a historical fact that not a single letter has changed ever since revelation. And there is nowhere in here that says God is three. May God guide you all to the straight path :)

Interesting but not convincing presentation here, along with some harsh judgement from those who endorse the classic Trinitarian position. One gentleman (Bill) calls out the ignorance of scripture by those who don't quite agree. I think Jesus would have taken an alternative tactic. The gentleman in the video starts his argument with John 1:1. Most scholars if not all, will not invoke this Johannine verse in support of the Trinity Doctrine, those of a lesser knowledgeable foundation, especially that of Koine Greek still may. *It is widely accepted that the second theos could also be translated 'divine' as the construction indicates a qualitative sense for theos. The Word is NOT God in the sense that he is the SAME person as the theos mentioned in 1:1a; he is not God the Father. *(notes from E.O.B. The Eastern/Greek Orthodox New Testament) There is so much more Biblical evidence that reinforces, that the more accurate position is not in support of the post Apostolic creeds and traditions of PNFs that came about at the ecumenical councils in 325 C.E and 381 C.E. Myself i will adhere to what the Scriptures teach and what first century Christians prior to the infusion of Greek philosophy regarding the relationship of God the Father to the Son of God. NOT GOD THE SON...who gives them license to change the language? I wish my comments to be presented in a non-combative or dogmatic fashion. It is the blief i have come to after much study of the scriptures, Nicene and PNFs, Greek philosophy, Koine Greek and many reading on early Christianity and church councils and the climates of political pressure during their undertakings. God Bless...

God did not begot God. Enjoy your mystery.

This man couldn't be any more confused. Notice that he says: "We don't believe in three different God." Yet, he steps on his own tongue by saying: "The Father is God. The Son is God. And the holy spirit is God." The easiest way to defend the trinity is to compare it with what the Bible says about God. If the two agree 100%, then that should confirm that the trinity is based squarely on Scripture. But is that the case? Well, judge for yourself: 1a. THE BIBLE says the Father-a single person-is the “only true God.” (John 17:3). 1b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “every Person [of the trinity] BY HIMSELF [is] God.” That’s THREE GODS! 2a. THE BIBLE says that “for us there is one God, the Father." (1 Cor. 8:6) 2b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “we worship one God IN TRINITY.” 3a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John @) 3b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “In this trinity, NONE is greater…” 4a. THE BIBLE says Jesus is the Son of God. (John @) 4b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “Jesus IS God,” which makes him a different God from the “one God in trinity." 5a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John @) 5b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE say that “the whole three persons [of the trinity] are “co-equal.” 6a. THE BIBLE says the holy spirit is not God, but a possession of God and that he gives it to deserving ones. As 1 Thess. 4:8 says: “Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives HIS holy Spirit to you.” 6b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “the holy spirit IS God.” However, A Catholic Dictionary says: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.” It adds: “The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as someTHING, not someONE.” 7a. THE BIBLE says that the Father is the ONLY person that “the true worshipers” (Christians) should worship. (John @) 7b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “The trinity in unity is to be worshiped.” So, do the Bible and the Catholic trinity doctrine agree on who God is? Absolutely not! As the New Catholic Encyclopedia says, the trinity “is NOT directly and immediately the Word of God.”

The way to find a human example of man's 💡 idea 💡 of his triune, trinitarian, three in one God is to look in a human mental institution and find a human being with a multiple personality mental disorder!!! A human being who think's he is a father of an only begotten son, but he has no son, and think's he is the son of himself, but he is not, and because he is conflicted, he also think's he is a bodyless spirit that other's can't see. This would be a human example of a triune, trinitarian God. This is where mankind create's God/Gods in his/their own image and he/they worship a God/Gods of their/his own creation. A human being is said to poses a body, a soul and a spirit. These three aspects make up one human being. But the spirit without the body is a dead soul because the spirit is the breath of life and breath without the body is just wind (a lot of hot air). Which is what the trinity doctrine is made up of!!!