Hollywood Montrose: Mannequin’s Gay Hero

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Matt Baume

Matt Baume

Күн бұрын

In the movie Mannequin and its sequel Mannequin on the Move, Hollywood Montrose defies the rules for sassy gay best friends. He’s a flamboyant femme hero who saves the day amidst bumbling heterosexuals, while also holding down a career and a love life and also besting multiple foes in combat -- making Hollywood Montrose the gay 80s hero we never knew we needed.
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@chelmrtz
@chelmrtz 2 жыл бұрын
A black man turning a firehose on police is a statement. Was it intended by the creators? We may never know
@pengwin_
@pengwin_ 2 жыл бұрын
That question and many others will NOT be answered in Mannequin III: Virginia is for Mannequin Lovers
@mainstreetsaint36
@mainstreetsaint36 2 жыл бұрын
Timeless!
@Eviltwin531
@Eviltwin531 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how subversive the rest of the movie is, I'm gonna choose to believe "Yes."
@adrian72300
@adrian72300 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it was meant to be an ambiguous scene
@elenachristian9860
@elenachristian9860 2 жыл бұрын
A black, gay man. An F you to Birmingham and Stonewall at the same time.
@Prederick
@Prederick 2 жыл бұрын
"Only one little gun? Honey, I am from North Philadelphia!" A King. A "Fuck Around and Find Out" King.
@richardowens9061
@richardowens9061 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an Uber/Lyft driver and I had the reincarnation of Hollywood Montrose in my car yesterday. He was wearing all white with a gold sequined hat and red swan sunglasses. He was fabulous!
@lynnevetter
@lynnevetter 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, those glasses sound amazing. Hollywood's glasses were always my favorite part of his outfits.
@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134
@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134 2 жыл бұрын
You've been in the presence of greatness, how blessed 💜
@ScientificallyStupid
@ScientificallyStupid 2 жыл бұрын
@@lynnevetter the scene where he's working in the store, sees Emmy and Jonathan breezing by, and pulls out another pair of glasses- like he's seeing things- it kills me every time. Mesach Taylor's physicality as Hollywood is incredible. He conveys everything in his movement.
@zuglymonster
@zuglymonster 2 жыл бұрын
I love finding out so many people I loved in the 80s were queer friendly. Like Estelle Getty refusing to do gay jokes.
@ScientificallyStupid
@ScientificallyStupid 2 жыл бұрын
it almost makes up for other things that have kind of been ruined, like The Cosby Show.
@queencerseilannister3519
@queencerseilannister3519 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScientificallyStupid Same. There are some eps of GGs I can't watch, the like the horrible insensitive "fat jokes' hurled at Rebecca, but at least I can watch the series, unlike Cosby, where the entire thing is ruined for me. Sadly, my fave Buffy is slowly getting tampered because of Joss and Nicholas Brendon.
@ScientificallyStupid
@ScientificallyStupid 2 жыл бұрын
@@queencerseilannister3519 I feel the same way- I just read Evan Katz's book about Buffy and it was fantastic, but it dug the hole even deeper.
@hithere7080
@hithere7080 Жыл бұрын
She wasn’t just friendly she was a gay rights advocate and opened an aids hospice in the 90s, she was one of the best people on earth
@RichardHannay
@RichardHannay 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite Hollywood Montrose line is “True Love is like the Loch Ness Monster-everyone has heard of it but no one has ever seen it”
@redblack9618
@redblack9618 2 жыл бұрын
Mannequin was one of those movies I watched over and over as a kid and as an adult felt like a fever dream I must have made up. I honestly think it was the first time I was exposed to an openly queer character. It really is shocking to think that my childhood movies were Legend, Labyrinth, and Mannequin and that I thought I was straight for SO LONG.
@raem7846
@raem7846 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, 80's and 90's movies were packed with queer-coded characters, characters of colour, and strong female characters who were morally complex and not defined by their sexuality. In some ways, of course we're so much better now (more diverse, less stereotyped representation in literature and TV, for example), but when it comes to Hollywood, it's so sad how far we've regressed.
@doctorteethomega
@doctorteethomega 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes yes yes. Exactly how I felt. Like a secret dream where you could see another amazing world. Where good people followed their heart and bullies failed.
@sarahwarnock2707
@sarahwarnock2707 2 жыл бұрын
Omg Jaredth😍
@kcbh24
@kcbh24 2 жыл бұрын
Well, straight or not has nothing to do with it. It sounds like you just have a great imagination.
@redblack9618
@redblack9618 2 жыл бұрын
@@kcbh24 what.
@showandtell1313
@showandtell1313 2 жыл бұрын
''i learned this in the marines'' ''you were in the marines?'' ''yes they were looking for a few good men and so was i'' I DIED XD
@DaviniaHill
@DaviniaHill 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of Mannequin was that Andrew Mccarthy supported Hollywood, no judgement, just someone who accepted him.
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
I've always appreciated that as well! Jonathan's support and affirmation of Hollywood What settle but very obvious to a lot of us when he let Felix know that he enjoyed working with Hollywood Because they could have hooked them up with someone much worse...like a "biggoted jerk"!
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 2 жыл бұрын
I also appreciate that Hollywood just accepted Andrew's apparent objectum sexuality.
@itisyerdad
@itisyerdad 2 жыл бұрын
Supported without pity, too!
@DaviniaHill
@DaviniaHill 2 жыл бұрын
@@someonesomeone25 he sees the creativity and he knows that he needs whatever the mannequin does for him.
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaviniaHill Indeed. But it's the lack of judgement that makes it special. So many times in films human/object relationships are portrayed as dangerous or crazy or something to be pitied or cured. But not here. It's a pleasant rarity.
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
"It's obvious to this country girl that you're an A-number one creative freak. Imagine pretending to be a stock boy when you're a major artiste. I am so jealous!"
@eddieharrison3801
@eddieharrison3801 6 ай бұрын
Love it's obvious to this country girl ❤
@zero_foxpants
@zero_foxpants 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that movie was my jam when I was a young one. I was so obsessed with it that I even had my first internship as a window dresser.. and then was super disappointed that we didn't get to create new extravagant window displays every single day. Turns out window dressers do a lot of boring stuff most of the time and hardly ever dance with Mannequins or do private fashion shows with ancient cursed Egyptians. Who knew?
@MattBaume
@MattBaume 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what do window dressers actually do?????
@zero_foxpants
@zero_foxpants 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattBaume I mean, bear in mind that I wasn't at a department store in a major city and they only had like two and half windows to decorate so other people's experiences may vary (also, this was in the mid90s, hence: my memory = fuzzy), but I do remember a lot of signs being done, some light inventory work, daily walks up and down the sales floors to check if everything's still in place.. and a lot of sitting around or lending a hand to other departments in the store that actually needed the help and got shit done. I dressed a lone mannequin exactly once in those two weeks.. and despite the detachable arms that ain't a lot of fun, either. Quite the bummer. Still, that's nothing compared to my internship as a cook afterwards. Boy oh boy, don't get me started on what *they* actually do all day long. / jk 😉
@timhulsey8985
@timhulsey8985 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattBaume One wrote "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" ....
@labella9291
@labella9291 2 жыл бұрын
As a Philly native, imagine MY disappointment when we went to Wannamakers and... it didn't really look like the movie.
@zero_foxpants
@zero_foxpants 2 жыл бұрын
@@labella9291 Oh snap, for real? How sobering. I've only seen a few pictures, but was quite happy that the organ Andrew McCarthy plays in the movie was an actual thing.
@Mercerdaniels
@Mercerdaniels 2 жыл бұрын
As a black child oblivious to his orientation, I adored the reruns of Mannequin on the Move. Not only I was I delighted by Hollywood's flamboyance (and the presence of a different sort of black male character), but..."is that Buffy the Vampire Slayer?!?!" (sigh) I was always gonna be gay.
@davidmburgess
@davidmburgess 2 жыл бұрын
The clip of Estelle Getty saying she won't do jokes that hurt anyone made me love her even more!
@JamesFarrOfficial
@JamesFarrOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, the question about the security cameras broke my brain. Never thought about that.
@thekiwibird37
@thekiwibird37 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just choosing to go with "Macguffin mummy magic doesn't count non-human eyes, so anything recorded on camera doesn't count". Boss saw him porking a human lady in her store and handwaved it because he's just that great of an employee.
@JamesFarrOfficial
@JamesFarrOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@thekiwibird37 This is now canon. Thank you. :)
@K33p3r0fwr417h
@K33p3r0fwr417h 2 жыл бұрын
She probably saw her turn into a mannequin too.
@TheSongwritingCat
@TheSongwritingCat 2 жыл бұрын
I think the camera is just a medium. So it wouldn't change what Jonathan and Emmy were actually doing and it would not be able to record anything differently because it had already happened unobserved by human eyes. But potentially, if someone was watching in real time, she would have turned back into a mannequin.
@MrClarkkerr
@MrClarkkerr 2 жыл бұрын
The dressing up montage in Mannequin is literally the most 80s things ever.
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 2 жыл бұрын
I loved it, it brang me such warm, nostalgic feelings of a world that no longer exists.
@ninjabluefyre3815
@ninjabluefyre3815 Жыл бұрын
All it needed was Modern English's "I Melt With You".
@kingjinga2539
@kingjinga2539 2 жыл бұрын
This Hollywood is the only Hollywood I want to be associated with days.
@trevorlange
@trevorlange 2 жыл бұрын
But what about Paul Hollywood?
@kingjinga2539
@kingjinga2539 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorlange He's ok.
@Goddessvenom
@Goddessvenom 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorlange that was good 🤣
@hopejoons
@hopejoons Жыл бұрын
"you were in the marines?!?!?" "yes, they were looking for a few good men, and so was i" is still one of the most iconic gay quotes in cinematic history lol
@MavenCree
@MavenCree 2 жыл бұрын
I had Mannequin on beta and watched it over and over again. I was 11 when the movie came out. I didn't know Hollywood was gay. I didn't even know what gay was at the time. All I knew was that Hollywood was fabulous and I loved him.
@BiggaTigga
@BiggaTigga 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I randomly scream, “she’s the dummy!” while doing household chores. 🤪
@lakv126
@lakv126 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to see Hollywood Montrose and Titus Andromedon in a scene together.
@RominaJones
@RominaJones 2 жыл бұрын
I have arrived at at time when James Spader is referred to only as the voice of Ultron. I feel like I became ancient overnight.
@davidsavage328
@davidsavage328 2 жыл бұрын
I found that so strange! Like, if we are watching these videos, we have the pop culture knowledge to know who James Spader is!
@lnfreeman
@lnfreeman 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidsavage328 big agree. As someone straddling millennial and gen z I was expecting a reference to one if his numerous TV starring roles. But, like, I've seen Secretary, I've seen Pretty in Pink lol
@kumada84
@kumada84 2 жыл бұрын
He also said, "you might know Kim Catrall from Sex and the City".... I was like, no, I know her from Mannequin 👀👀👀
@DoctorSciencetime
@DoctorSciencetime 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Ultron is just funnier to put in this movie
@fabianhebestreit3240
@fabianhebestreit3240 2 жыл бұрын
I was worth it for that hilarilous Ultron edit.
@mervyngreene6687
@mervyngreene6687 Жыл бұрын
My favorite gay friendly line came from Emmy. She said that she was not Michaelangelo's muse. He had a "friend" called David.
@calebleland8390
@calebleland8390 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a straight, I knew that Hollywood was the hero we needed but didn't deserve. I mean, sure, staring at Kim Catrall is always good fun, but Hollywood was someone we could all look up to and admire.
@darkamora5123
@darkamora5123 2 жыл бұрын
Like Matt said, everyone needs a friend like Hollywood.
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 2 жыл бұрын
I had such a crush on Kim when I saw this in my childhood. She seemed so full of life and sweet, a dream girl. And that 80s dancing montage, so classic & romantic.
@GameOfDepth
@GameOfDepth 2 жыл бұрын
I want Hollywood’s insight on EVERYTHING...
@the_peteybug7368
@the_peteybug7368 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid it was nice to see a gay role model who was strong, sucessful, and witty.
@edreid7872
@edreid7872 2 жыл бұрын
This film could've been easily dismissed as a cheesy 80's throwaway, but has become a cult classic, and Meshach played Hollywood so well, I was convinced that he was playing himself in real life...😝
@swanpride
@swanpride 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean, it is so 1980s, that it isn't even funny, from the weird "good department store vs bad department store" plotline (honestly, what was that about, the fear of walmart taking over?) to the love story mostly based on the female supporting the male character, but I really enjoy it. And Hollywood is a big reason why.
@notaniceguy34
@notaniceguy34 2 жыл бұрын
Meshach Taylor being remembered as Hollywood is a lot better than being remembered from his first role - the scientist who got cut in half in Damien Omen II.
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
I also really liked him as Anthony Bouvier on Designing Women.
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 жыл бұрын
That’s range!
@sirjedisentinel
@sirjedisentinel 2 жыл бұрын
Because of when I grew up, I'll always remember him as Mr. Wright from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
@DamonBrazzellUkesploitation
@DamonBrazzellUkesploitation 2 жыл бұрын
He also played a cop in The Beast Within.
@cityhawk
@cityhawk 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he play a producer on the show Buffalo Bill?
@bradypustridactylus488
@bradypustridactylus488 2 жыл бұрын
The Designing Women convinced Anthony to dress in drag, so they could cheat in an all women’s wilderness survival contest. Anthony agreed with reservations. “Don’t be so quick to thank me, because I just want to go on record right now by saying there is no way in hell that this is going to work. [Why not?] Because it’s stupid, man. It’s really, really stupid. It’s like something Lucy and Ethel would do.” Meshach Taylor was a treasure.
@SweptAway529
@SweptAway529 2 жыл бұрын
Well kinda - it's actually the episode where Suzanne's housekeeper Consuela has immigration issues ("Foreign Affairs") that he does full on drag. Suzanne actually pays him for his effort and instrumental in getting him to don the dress and wig (Anthony felt the wig choice made him look too much like Jane Wyman). The episode you mention ("The Wilderness Experience") he just wears a furry snow hat and gloves passing himself off as one of the campers, using the name of the supreme "Cindy Birdsong." There was also a later series episode where he dressed in drag for a stage production of "Mame". Moot points I know, but too much of a Designing Women fan to not weigh in.
@bradypustridactylus488
@bradypustridactylus488 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweptAway529 Thank you for the correction. I probably got the episode wrong also where Harry goes into the woods on the first day of hunting season wearing a faux fur jacket and getting twigs caught in his hair that look like antlers and then being rescued by Dr Albright. My memory sucks.
@SweptAway529
@SweptAway529 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradypustridactylus488 All good - I've just watched too much Designing Women (can that be possible??) in my life!! My dogs (sister and brother) are named Dixie and Carter, so you decide!! :)
@bookemdano7567
@bookemdano7567 2 жыл бұрын
“Well who let you on the bus?” “I don’t know. Some white girl.” “Who’d you hand your application to?” “Some white girl.” 😂
@SweptAway529
@SweptAway529 2 жыл бұрын
@@bookemdano7567 "She has a five o'clock shadow!!" LOL - love this episode!
@elizabethsaltmarsh8306
@elizabethsaltmarsh8306 2 жыл бұрын
It's my new goal in life to use the line "dancing strengthens the legs, hiyah!" as often as possible.
@richalderson6069
@richalderson6069 2 жыл бұрын
This movie has a 20% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Which, of course means it's a total campy pleasure!
@TechBearSeattle
@TechBearSeattle 2 жыл бұрын
I so desperately wanted there to be a Mannequin III: Hollywood Spotlight. He deserved his own movie.
@davidsavage328
@davidsavage328 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! A movie from 2021 of Hollywood falling in love with a mannequin? Yes! Green light that now!
@darnellmajor8895
@darnellmajor8895 Жыл бұрын
I thought Mannequin 2 was his own movie LOL
@PoetGorman
@PoetGorman Жыл бұрын
After I came out to my son, at the time a very precocious 5 year old, he started to worry that I had not found a boyfriend to be with me when he was at his mother's house. One day, about a year later in our apartment, my son was watching Mannequin for the thousandth time while I made dinner. He turned to me at one point and asked, "Daddy? Do you think Hollywood is cute?" Still new to the gay world, I replied, "Well, in a theatrical kind of way." He followed up with, "I think you should find someone like Hollywood. He's cool!" A few months later I found and fell in love with my own Hollywood dancing to some music I could not hear in the center booth of a gas station. He left his number on my receipt. He had all the heart and biting wit and style of Hollywood Montrose. Still it was a little jarring to be just coming out of the conservative religious straight world and, against the odds, embracing my gay sexuality, and then dating someone with big hair and makeup to rival any preacher’s wife, but man oh man that boy could dance! My son met my new boyfriend for the first time at a "Drag queen Car Wash." My new boyfriend warned the other drag queens that his new boyfriend was bringing his six year old son, and that they had to be nice to him because he wanted to keep dating me. When we drove up to the parking lot where the carwash (a fundraiser for HIV) was being held, and my son saw all those queens in Daisy Mae drag washing cars, he barely waited for the car to stop before jumping out, running over, and starting to chatter to one of the queens. One of the queens mistakenly handed my son the hose and told him to rinse the soap off the car. Chaos ensued with squealing and running in heels, and my new man told me later that several of the queens came up to him afterwards and said, "You SO owe us big time for being nice to that demon child!" My son not only got his Hollywood that day, but he gained a whole bunch of new step aunts with big hair who loved the demon child, like my brassy bouffant haired Aunt Roxie in South Jersey whom I loved even though her tits were real. My own personal Hollywood turned out to be a great parent whom my ex called my son's "other mom." This ex-altar boy still thinks of Hollywood Montrose as a patron saint of coming out.
@jonothanthrace1530
@jonothanthrace1530 10 күн бұрын
What a beautiful story!
@Estarfigam
@Estarfigam 2 жыл бұрын
I so wish there was a 3rd movie, where Hollywood get's the man.
@ImmortalBroken
@ImmortalBroken 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! A male mannequin who comes to life for Hollywood!
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 жыл бұрын
OMG why do we always realize these things too late?
@K33p3r0fwr417h
@K33p3r0fwr417h 2 жыл бұрын
When I first watched the movie when I was younger, I was hoping the sequel would be this premise. But I have been sorely disappointed that they didn’t do that.
@terenceheesch8351
@terenceheesch8351 2 жыл бұрын
...the gay pop culture geek in me seriously needs this... GIVE US A HOLLYWOOD MONTROSE POP FIGURE!!!
@afrox
@afrox 2 жыл бұрын
Here to say HE ONLY GETS MORE ICONIC IN THE SEQUEL TO BE HONEST
@kennek1976
@kennek1976 2 жыл бұрын
he was the only good thing in the sequel
@afrox
@afrox 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennek1976 “hold the rats, your nauseousness!” Sorry not sorry but I love camp and I love nonsense so I actually like the sequel more. It’s quotable and kind of perfect in a rocky horror-esque watch party situation
@kennek1976
@kennek1976 2 жыл бұрын
@@afrox and yet most people did not watch it or do not recall it at all but if u like it that's not what I'm challenging. I did not hate it but it was lackluster OTHER than Hollywood for me.
@RichardHannay
@RichardHannay 2 жыл бұрын
“My hero! You saved the presentation and my phoney-baloney job!”
@TheSongwritingCat
@TheSongwritingCat 2 жыл бұрын
You're making me want to watch the sequel
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood occupies the same position in Mannequin as Jack Burton does in Big Trouble in Little China. He is not the main character, but he might as well be.
@kyndramb7050
@kyndramb7050 2 жыл бұрын
And Kim Cattrall is in both.
@Cobralalalala
@Cobralalalala 2 жыл бұрын
I would say he's more like Wang, the real hero saving the day. I can certainly see the parallel now that you mention it, either way.
@pengwin_
@pengwin_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyndramb7050 Yeah I know you've gotta weird face
@pengwin_
@pengwin_ 2 жыл бұрын
China is HERE Jack Burton...
@SuperRustyBoy
@SuperRustyBoy 2 жыл бұрын
It's all in the reflexes.
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 2 жыл бұрын
"You might know Kim Catrall for her love of Scat" Me: 😳 Me one second later: 😌
@CoyoteFitzy
@CoyoteFitzy 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan standing up for Hollywood was such a huge thing for me when I saw this. I was 5 or 6? Too young, maybe… but this was my go to movie over and over while most kids were into Disney 😂 My amazingly supportive Dad bought me the VHS because I rented it every week as my video pick.
@MattBaume
@MattBaume 2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting to see so many comments about Dads who supported this film!!!
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 2 жыл бұрын
@CoyoteFitzy was that when VHS cost like $100 to own? That is one helluva devoted dad! ❤️
@realityhurts8697
@realityhurts8697 2 жыл бұрын
I was teenager, chasing girls and smoking dope but loved this movie. Hollywood made this film iconic and my best friend told me he was gay, same year, 30 yrs later were still friends and visit eachother often.
@robnj76
@robnj76 Жыл бұрын
what a nice dad Mr. Fitzy (I'm not tearing up or anything it's just allergies)
@doctorteethomega
@doctorteethomega 2 жыл бұрын
Born Bi in the late 70's. I loved this movie as as a young kid. Only in hindsight do I realize why. I wanted to live in the reality where people would sing songs about the Strange and Unusual Plant in the window, and where Hollywood would hose down people coming to hurt me.
@Pablo360able
@Pablo360able 2 жыл бұрын
"Now, obviously the idea that a traveling mannequin would be treated like a foreign dignitary is completely absurd..." The sheer "...but" energy in that sentence is terrifying all on its own.
@raem7846
@raem7846 2 жыл бұрын
How has no one impersonated Hollywood Montrose in Snatch Game yet?
@salmonsays1466
@salmonsays1466 2 жыл бұрын
They can't impersonate fictional Characters. Sasha wanted to do gollum, but was told no, because he wasn't a real person
@somecathchick
@somecathchick 2 жыл бұрын
@@salmonsays1466 They can get around it by playing the actor as the character (Bob the Drag Queen did Uzo Aduba but was dressed up and acted like Uzo's character Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black)
@davidsavage328
@davidsavage328 2 жыл бұрын
@@somecathchick yeah, you could do Meshack and do both Anthony and Hollywood answers, it’s a great idea
@raem7846
@raem7846 2 жыл бұрын
@@salmonsays1466 Yeah, I don't buy it. A lot of queens have played ficitonal characters but called them by their actors' names: Maggie Smith, Uzo Aduba, Divine, etc. If Crystal Methyd can be Poppy while Gigi Goode is playing a robot right next to her, someone can be Hollywood Montrose. Gollum is a CGI character, but Hollywood is a flesh and blood gay icon. No one thought you could do two characters, but Bob did. No one thought you could play a man either, until Kennedy Davenport did it. And then you have Rosé and Symone, who gamed the system by playing historical characters we have zero actual footage of (and one of whom we have no photos of either), so there's no way of telling whether their impressions were accurate or not. My point is that there really don't seem to be any rules in snatch game, or if there are, they're only there till someone breaks them.
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 2 жыл бұрын
It feels like a crime that no one has yet.
@naolmstead
@naolmstead 2 жыл бұрын
As a child of the 80's I watched Mannequin many many times. I guess I never realized how much of the plot depended on Hollywood before. I need to watch it again.
@Scipio488
@Scipio488 2 жыл бұрын
I am externally gratefully to you for your work in enlightening me and others. However, I will probably never forgive you for exposing me to Kim Cattrall scatting.
@jonthomas8569
@jonthomas8569 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie growing up. But I never thought about how well thought out Hollywood was as a gay character in the 80s. I enjoyed every scene he was in, and now I really appreciate the value of what he brought. Meshach Taylor really was a treasure. Thanks for bringing this fresh insight!
@natsmith303
@natsmith303 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of appropriate that this is the episode where you reference Doctor Who, since the Count in the second movie looks remarkably like the late Roger Delgado, who played the original Master in the 70s.
@evansimpler5913
@evansimpler5913 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the actor playing Hollywood as the teacher from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide and when I found he was in Mannequin I was gooped! An iconic character that literally stole the show!
@lnfreeman
@lnfreeman 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god
@amandajohnson3531
@amandajohnson3531 2 жыл бұрын
That's why his voice was familiar! I couldn't place it for the life of me.
@pompitousoflove
@pompitousoflove 2 жыл бұрын
He's such an icon
@JadyLester
@JadyLester 2 жыл бұрын
I love the twist that the inamorata are not the lead characters of Mannequin, it was Harlequin all along.
@aaronsirkman8375
@aaronsirkman8375 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Harlequin always kind of the main character?
@JadyLester
@JadyLester 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsirkman8375 Exactly! And the Marx Brothers, all down the line.
@kipp5862
@kipp5862 2 жыл бұрын
You called her the "bad Buffy"... The best one in that movie was Paul Rubens. His death scene is genius
@jang7675
@jang7675 2 жыл бұрын
I know it is a bad film, but I still love it.
@Spookybluelights
@Spookybluelights 2 жыл бұрын
I want every pair of sunglasses that Hollywood wears.
@awaitingthedawn
@awaitingthedawn 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it just *SING*? Iconic, trailblazing, fabulous. ❤️❤️❤️
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
*SBAP!*
@dziobak101
@dziobak101 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kim Cattrall’s scatting skills deserve an entire video, Matt.
@stevechabalik6985
@stevechabalik6985 2 жыл бұрын
I deeply regret being oblivious as to how absolutely legendary and brave and brilliant Meshach Taylor was. However, i DO NOT regret knowing how vital Matt Baumer is to bringing the histories of "Unsung" gay icons to light. You are doing The Lord's Work on Earth, Matt, and please keep on doing what you're doing!
@bookofdust
@bookofdust 2 жыл бұрын
The Illustra store was filmed at the new Boscov’s in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
@BigBobbyBoLo
@BigBobbyBoLo 2 жыл бұрын
My father use to call this movie, "the Hollywood movie"... he said he was the only thing worth watching in the whole film lol..
@rainbowbunniie
@rainbowbunniie 2 жыл бұрын
The bad Buffy. Bite your tongue 😝 I happen to love the Buffy movie. I know a lot of people don't like it but I think it's super underrated. It's just a really fun movie. Same thing with Mannequin 2.
@acousticmonkey2209
@acousticmonkey2209 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I love Mannequin. Still holds up even now, and watching it when I was younger was the moment I knew I was gay🙂
@SanjayMerchant
@SanjayMerchant 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to compare and contrast Hollywood Montrose with the Men on Film. They're superficially similar (a straight man playing a flamboyant gay man), but feel so very different. Taylor somehow played the stereotypes as a celebration rather than a mockery of gay men.
@enerioffutt1881
@enerioffutt1881 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the part in Mannequin 2 where they're practing the dance and Hollywood is trying to keep it secret. He just sticks his head out the curtain, holding it tight around his neck and the music behind him changes and I always laughed my head off. Goddess, I loved him. He was the best part of both movies.
@ispeakewok
@ispeakewok 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie as a kid. Hollywood was my favourite character! He was so full of life and personality. He wasn't there as Window dressing.
@VapidVulpes
@VapidVulpes 2 жыл бұрын
This was the cutest friggin thing ever, but holy goddamn shit James Spader!!!!! God I love him so friggin much
@thecorduroyboy
@thecorduroyboy 2 жыл бұрын
i have always loved Mannequin and with it, Hollywood. I always loved that Hollywood took the time to cover his car before helping Johnathan; plus all his glasses and color combinations were/ are still inspiring. Also, it made me want to work as a visual merchandiser (actually).
@afrox
@afrox 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to be like “finally mannequin 2 gets the respect it deserves” but was so caught off guard by the evangelion and supernatural jokes I feel like Matt has been hacking my watch history with this one
@yerocb
@yerocb 2 жыл бұрын
I had already tried to re-watch Mannequin, but it was unavailable streaming. When I saw this was your video, I actually went to a shop and rented it. Totally worth it. I thought it might not hold up at all, but even my teen described it as "entertaining." I had to stress that the presentation of Hollywood was at first stereotypical, but that the way he was treated (i.e. as a friend worth defending against a bigot) was damn near revolutionary for the time. Glad my kids live in a world where this is the norm for how we treat gay friends. It's a total non-issue for them, and that is beautiful.
@billywalkerjr.9753
@billywalkerjr.9753 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding us about one of the few positive portrayals of a complex queer lead character. Your videos are always a delight, but they invariably make me cry. Sometimes a few tears, sometimes heaving sobs. Why do you insist on making me cry, Matt?
@tuamigajordana
@tuamigajordana 2 жыл бұрын
I used to rewatch this movie so much when I was a kid. I was really into the magic of true love. But I was also really dazzled by Hollywood Montrose.
@missmarymary6506
@missmarymary6506 2 жыл бұрын
And as Anthony in Designing Women. He was Amazing...the chemistry with Meshach and Delta on and off screen was very special.
@11cabadger
@11cabadger 3 ай бұрын
I cried when I heard Meshach Taylor died. He was such an inspiration on "Designing Women" and "Dave's World". He elevated every schlocky show I saw him in and of course he was my hero in "Mannequin". Thanks for reviewing the film. I saw it a while back and besides Meshach and Estelle Getty, I had a hard time remembering which Brat Pack member was featured.
@zuitsuit80
@zuitsuit80 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a doll for posting this tribute to a groundbreaking performance and this moment in 80s gay history that we never fully appreciated until he was gone. I love this. ❤️🌈
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, is he dead?
@ironicdivinemandatestan4262
@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 Жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 Yep. Passed in 2014
@TomMSTie1138
@TomMSTie1138 2 жыл бұрын
I can't decide what I like more about Hollywood: his sunglasses or his car!
@Snipewoods69
@Snipewoods69 2 жыл бұрын
All 3! I love that darn movie.
@kumada84
@kumada84 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video 👍👍👍 One of the things I love about these movies is that Hollywood could easily have come across as an offensive joke, but Meshach Taylor played him so brilliantly and committed to the character so completely that there isn't a split second where the character even comes close to being offensive. I also love the fact that the first movie doesn't toy with the usual thing "they" did where they just implied a character was gay while keeping it vague enough for plausible deniability - Hollywood flat out says he is (or was) in a relationship with a guy in his first appearance in the movie 😭
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 2 жыл бұрын
Got to love this film for its Pygmalionism and objectum friendliness as well as gay positivity.
@demigothneka
@demigothneka 2 жыл бұрын
This video is great as usually. What I wouldn't do for you to do an episode on Jo from the facts of life. A butch lesbian icon. With her chemistry with Blair.
@starri
@starri 2 жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful video. It was legitimately joyous. It actually made me want to watch Mannequin, a movie I've not seen since I was maybe 12.
@nathancarofrechette3965
@nathancarofrechette3965 2 жыл бұрын
I was a kid when I saw Mannequin for the first time and Hollywood immediately became this incredible role model to me, I became obsessed with this movie
@rodmaxd
@rodmaxd 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the most "80s" movies ever. I am not sure but it might the first movie to have a "fashion montage" too. I remember as a kid loving it so much. I should watch it again!
@Chilcutte
@Chilcutte 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle grew up to do Windows in NeyYork and he was able to come out and has become a public speaker - my family has always been supportive I think the hardest thing was my Father was like a dad to him because of their age gap. He was afraid to come out to my dad (Ex Air Force Ex body building Ex republican polypsy ) and now full time hippy* That made my Dad cry. Of course he went outside to do so alone you know like a macho man.
@Chilcutte
@Chilcutte 2 жыл бұрын
And Now I have my Own BFF who happens to be Named Hollywood after this film. He looks like a taller version of Prince.
@mary-katerinarelli7182
@mary-katerinarelli7182 2 жыл бұрын
Just to answer your question about the spaceship in Mannequin 2. The movie was shot at a club in Philly called "Pulsations." The ship was a fixture in the club that would float across the ceiling to the center of the dance floor. It would lower a robot on treadmill feet and you could step up on the robot's small platform to dance with it. I went to a birthday party there when I was 9 yo back in 1988, but my sister who was 8 years older would go at night to the dance club. In fact the Asian guy you see dancing with his head on the woman's chest ended up being her brother in law in the future.
@jamesoverholt878
@jamesoverholt878 2 жыл бұрын
Because what department store doesn't have an industrial mannequin shredding machine
@RedBear535
@RedBear535 2 жыл бұрын
Ultron wants to have him fired but Hollywood won't have it. One of the more bonkers sentences I have heard this week. Fantastic.
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,!! I was barely 21 when this film was released and Hollywood Montrose became my hero! Not only was he out and proud, he was accepted and even for film of that time, the only Becketn remark came from Felix Maxwell and even that kind baby laugh! G.W. Bailey, btw, when he was on the show Major Crimes, portrayed a crusty old Homicide lieutenant who was supportive of a young gay character. Very nice man as well, I met him one afternoon at Canter's. At which time I informed him that he was still one of the sexiest mature men on television!
@TheSuzberry
@TheSuzberry 2 жыл бұрын
My husband and I saw this movie in its first run and LOVED Hollywood. So much more fin than the leads. And so heroic.
@stephenfurches5091
@stephenfurches5091 2 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT! And isn't it great that Hollywood works at the place with the world's largest organ? (Some will get this.) THANK YOU for another terrific episode!
@mattwilson8298
@mattwilson8298 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Mannequin when I was a kid, especially Hollywood. It wasn't until later I realized why. This vid made me chuckle, giggle, laugh, and howl. Gonna have to watch this one again! Thank you fellow Matt!
@TROQUE4
@TROQUE4 2 жыл бұрын
I have come to realize that apparently my childhood was weird cause sexuality was never an issue. I never thought that it was "weird" that he was perfectly comfortable with Hollywood. I have never been surprised to learn a man was dating a man or a woman was dating a woman. No idea how my family managed this when I don't recall ever speaking about it.
@ALNizhoni
@ALNizhoni Жыл бұрын
Can I just say that I love you for this? Because I love you for this. Hollywood Montrose is, indeed, the hero we need, but not the hero we deserve. Hollywood Montrose is the cinematice defender of justice, true love, and being different we need more of. I had NO idea how much I had always loved this character and this movie. Thank you for a touching and hilarious tribute to the original officer, gentleman, and fierceness personified, the one and only...Hollywood Montrose.
@justunder5
@justunder5 18 күн бұрын
I loved this movie as a kid. Probably one of the many reasons I became a costume designer. LOL. I got to work with Meshach on a film and he was the kindest human. He is definitely missed. ❤
@walterprice9775
@walterprice9775 16 күн бұрын
Slight, minor correction...the original Seymour in Little Shop was Lee Wilkof, who created the role at WPA and transferred over to the Orpheum theatre in 1982. Andrew Newman joined the show later during the Orpheum run and stayed with the show for 2 years.
@aldefleppardbangkokcrispyc3623
@aldefleppardbangkokcrispyc3623 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie back then, now, and forever. It a timeless classic. 🇬🇧
@usaskjock
@usaskjock 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 made me lose my shit ‘These questions and more... Will *not* be answered in Mannequin 2’
@jennifertochi6253
@jennifertochi6253 19 күн бұрын
Hollywood was always my hero of this movie. I love his character.
@mermaid_at_heart213
@mermaid_at_heart213 2 жыл бұрын
Mannequin is one of my favorite films of my childhood. I go back every once in a while, and rewatch it. I bet I've seen it 50 times. A friend of the family reminded me so much of Hollywood when I saw the movie and I mentioned it to him. He loved the movie, too, and started acting out Hollywood's lines from it sporadically. He was spot on, too! I'll always remember him hearing me singing to Cher one day and from then on calling me Cher while imitating the hair flip. I miss him. He was awesome.
@mervyngreene6687
@mervyngreene6687 Жыл бұрын
"Mannequin 2" was clearly a showcase vehicle for Taylor.
@MickeyDVizard
@MickeyDVizard 2 жыл бұрын
I love your vids, Matthew. I'm a lawyer, and what I love is you support your points very well with references to your source material, sometimes in unexpected ways, like when you were discussing whether a non-human's eye can see the Mannequin in human form, and you pointed out the dog seemed to be able to see her on the elevator. It was such a charming point bc that may have been written as a mere throwaway joke, on the one hand, but then again it's also canon to the story, and therefore completely fair game for supporting a position. It's just something I've noticed you do, and I like it.
@Southtcguy82
@Southtcguy82 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood Montrose character was the best thing in these movies.
@johnmarr2695
@johnmarr2695 2 жыл бұрын
Heading someone use the word simulacrum.....made my heart smile.
@MaryamofShomal
@MaryamofShomal 11 ай бұрын
As a little brown (Persian) girl and child refugee newly immigrated to the US, Hollywood was the character I related to most from the Mannequin movies. I loved him immediately! And not just because he was the funniest, most stylish character. See when I was a kid, I always decided who to root for in a movie or show based upon how they treated the queer characters - even before I knew what being gay was! I think that even as a child, I knew in my heart that folks in our LGBTQ+ community were precious angels who are worthy and deserve all of our love and protection. Proud ally ever since I could walk and talk! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
@BrigitofBergental
@BrigitofBergental 10 күн бұрын
Hollywood should have gotten his own spin-off; such a fun character, but I think his backstory could have had deep bits.
@joeblaster8770
@joeblaster8770 2 жыл бұрын
I can see Hollywood getting a job with Warehouse 13.
@random22026
@random22026 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood's character was more memorable than the leads....he's the only thing I remember about the film (not even the name of the movie!)! The moment I saw the title of your video tribute, Matt, I KNEW this had to be THAT HOLLYWOOD. I loved his character so much---when a friend asked me why, I told him 'Because he has so much FUN!!' And he unashamedly does: the positivity Does Not Stop! 🌈🌈
@CalTxDude
@CalTxDude 2 жыл бұрын
You call the newspaper boys and girls, The headline will read: 'IF JONATHAN IS FIRED, HOLLYWOOD FLIES!'
@roodevonkilgore
@roodevonkilgore 4 күн бұрын
Oh my god this was my absolute favorite movie for years. Seeing it here in this context I'm bemuse; it's like watching one of those shows where they look back and explore a person's family history and ancestry- on this episode: Titus Andromedon.
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