A crossover with the monsterverse

I'd want two stories: the epic of Cherno Alpha's solo defense of Russia, and an epic tale of the Canadian Jaegers defending our part of the Pacific, driving the attacks on British Columbia and the 49th Parallel back. You could do a lot with massive battles in the snowy wastes of northern BC and Russia. I just want to see Cherno Alpha stomping out of a dense blizzard, pushing the storm aside and being the juggernaut it was always meant to be.

​@@doktor_ghulsecond. Cherno is my favorite Jaeger, due to it's unique and regional design and it's brutal history only hinted at in PacRim (something about a high number of successful defenses) and how stylized the pilots look. Just a badass, sexy couple with a badass giant robot that need their own movie.

Have Hannibal Chow play a bigger role. He may never have found his other shoe, could still be looking.

I'm fine with the first one. I liked it alright. Even when some of my favorite films include the Evangelion and Patlabor films, I don't love the first one (and haven't felt the need to revisit it since I first saw it in theaters back in 2013). I don't need or want any continuations. I tried watching the sequel, but stopped because I was so underwhelmed by it.

It's true though

I completely agree with you absolutely true statement!

I think I heard some rumors about a sequel but they never went through with it.

Never.

I like the series... think its called Pacific rim: black?

Ye

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

There is no avatar the last airbender movie

😂😂😂 The sequel was really bad.

@@jg3000 what sequel?

yeah cos there isnt

@Moto_.Mantra Well that film that the fandom denies the existence of was my first film in this series... It has it's problems...

Would have been nice if there had been a sequel…

​@@HedgeHogMan650 Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018)

I think Pacific Rim was always going to be a hard act to follow, for the same reason why a lot of other great stories are hard to sequelize. There's a bit of writing advice that comes in the form of two questions: "Is this the most interesting time in your main character's life? If not, why aren't you telling us about that other time?" Translation: you want to tell the best story you can with the setting you have. And Pacific Rim does that, it does the most interesting thing it could do with its setting. It has the biggest monsters, the toughest robots, the most experienced crews and it ties the whole mess into a clean cut ending, for a nicely finished story. Many movies and books share this problem: they are so good because they're the best they could be (or near the best they could be anyway). We can prove this a bit more by looking at the exceptions, the movies where part 2 is often seen an just as good as part 1: The Terminator in the end was a victory of style over substance. The ideas that made the story of Terminator 2 good already existed, the were in fact thinking of casting an unassuming regular guy as the infiltration robot while the muscle man would be the resistance fighter, but they decided to go with the reverse because of the visual language, the style. There is even a deleted scene where Sarah suggests going after the creators of Skynet. But they couldn't do that and keep the great horror vibe. This left the most interesting story they could tell for the sequel. Aliens manages to get similar results by just entirely switching genres. Part 1 may be the most interesting horror story you could tell with these aliens, but how about a battle story? And even with a good setup left in the setting it can be pretty hard to make lightning strike twice. I like Secret of the Ooze, but it's not on the same level as the first Ninja Turtles movie, despite the obvious sequel material of, well, the secret of that ooze. I actually kind of liked that non-existent sequel to Pacific Rim. It's not nearly as bad as say anything after the first Highlander. But it is a case of them just throwing ideas onto a big pile and hoping that everything mashed together makes for something as interesting as the first movie. Child prodigy, failed pilot turned edgy thief, mini robot, evil robots, new portals, bigger monsters, twist villain, twist good guy, twist monster, twist objective, drift compatibility is even less of a thing than at the end of the previous film now, why isn't this good yet?! The movie was not created because there was another story to tell, it was made for financial reasons, hoping the plot would materialize on its own. Because sequels sell, they get butts in cinema seats. It's easy to market a sequel to a good thing, which is why we have so many. It's just really hard to make a worthy sequel to a good thing.

Shipping crates as brass knuckles(not as good as boat bat)

@@optisprimusproductions I remember sitting in the theater watching and thinking, 'no movie ever made me feel more like a kid building robots with his Legos and then destroying each other in bliss than this did'.

​@@jasonmaclean719but there is also stuff like a great plot! So good!

@@_MECHA_ it's exactly what we all wanted in a fun movie. Flawed sure., but God DAMN was the movie a great time.

Rocket Punch had my Mazinger childhood scream for joy

A what? No such thing exists. Quit playin!

What sequel?

what sequel?

Truth in words.

What do you mean, "pretend"?

The really big problem about Uprising wasn't that it was bad, it was that it had so many genuinely great ideas that just...failed in execution. Newt's drifting backfiring? Mako's long lost adoptive brother? Kaiju-hybrid drones? An evil Jaeger? Three kaiju that can fuse into one giant Megakaiju? All of those could have been great if utilized right, but Uprising just never developed on any of them and focused instead on the Power Rangers esque team of teens.

​@@dracodracarys2339 partly true, but most of the ideas sucked in my opinion. Should've done a prequel on the golden age of jaegers

​@@zorbangoofer9426 EXACTLY 😔💯

what sequel?

huh? there was a sequel?

I didn't watch it because they brought Harry back to life. Now I learned from you they really just shat on the first film. Glad I skipped it

When did they kill mako?

​@@drewsachs6238 Golden circle was actually not bad

I liked all of the kingsman movies, but the kingsmen (3rd one iirc) was really good Imo

I liked all Kingsmen but yeah...odd choices for sure. And mako dies with little to no relevance

there was only one pacific rim movie made

​@@connerwillis5901 It's sequel was made in 2018 weirdo.

@@janepatton8100 bro didn't get the memo lol

@@janepatton8100 r/woosh

@@janepatton8100there was never a sequel. Hey, no, look at me, and listen to what I am telling you: there is no sequel. It is a shame we never got one, but there is no sequel

Yeah, the more I watched it, the less "Red Shirt" the extras became. The other teams clearly new what they were doing, but you clearly see that this is a team that was fighting an adaptive hoard mode game and their success is finally catching up to them. The reason Otachi and Leatherback are so dangerous is because they were purpose built to counter every strength of the last three known active yeagers, even including the tag team element that was hinted at occurring during different operations. Despite how it seemed at first viewing, there's alot of thought as to WHY they're dead... because there's a whole movie there (or two) we never got to see...

​@scottjs5207 I think the movie should at least give them more screen time to see they fight

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 definitely would've been nice, but that probably would've messed with pacing. Maybe in the reel losing more pilots, they could've at least had them in the backdrop still standing strong with their partnering Yeager being destroyed in the foreground.

This sounds straight copy and pasted from a video I watched the other day

@anon05 Prove it. Plus, how much more can people say with such limited material?

Killing off Mako was such a bad idea. It completely alienates any preexisting fan and really, who is watching Uprising that hasn’t watched and like the original?

What sequal

A sequel? Never heard of it/it's not real

Uprising is high budget fanfiction that the fandom has collectively banished from the canon. There is and always will be one Pacific Rim movie

@@joaquinwaters1810 a fanfic? Okay then I guess it doesn't exist

I would believe they cared if not for that scene where they blow leatherback wide open with the plasma cannon lol

@@jam5287 They were in a harbour where there aren’t that many people around also it was manly just to insure that leatherback was dead

Me too, mate. I only had cash to watch one movie that day, and I decided to watch The Wolverine. Cool movie, but I definitely should've watched this one instead, specially when Pacific Rim was on the IMAX 3D Deluxe (the chairs recline and has waiters serving wine and other drinks once in a while) 😅.

It doesn't

Watching it in theaters was definitely one best choices I made picking a movie to watch.

My movie reviewer, Movie Bob said to go see it and I did. I do not regret it. It was so amazing! I remember saying loud enough for people to hear "IT HAS WINGS?" Loved it! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q5qpfbZ03Nbedpc.htmlsi=brKj9ieAMt-9kIm-

I drove an hour to an IMAX theater in Indianapolis to see the first Pacific Rim on opening night, alone. I was epic. I could feel the weight of the mechs and kaijus. The script was quite mid though.

Pacific Rim Uprising, I didn't like it at all

Woosh lol. We all agree THERE WAS NO SEQUEL.

​Sir, you need to take ALL of your pills. Your imagining things and making all kinds of outlandish claims again. Please take your medication. @latonyagreen-warner7402

True, so sad

@@latonyagreen-warner7402there was no sequel just a mass hallucination

Thanks, Chris! I feel like there’s still potential in the series but I have no idea how they bring it back for a financially successful sequel because I feel like it hit a dead end.

@@MattDraperReboot it into the monsterverse

@@caseymiddleton5534No? It needs to be its own separate thing. We can’t add kaijus coming out of another dimension from the bottom of the ocean into the Monsterverse. And most/all jeagers get absolutely bodied by 90% of the kaiju in the monsterverse

​@@ZillaGuy15 the jaegers and kaijus could just get new stats

@@Mr.Margwito still it’s not a great idea considering the kaijus have two completely different origins. And adding jeagers who all have pilots which means more characters we need to focus on would take away from Godzilla and other kaijus

also the idea of a good kaiju was interesting, even if the whole human form and Eren Yeager style transformation felt a bit too fantastical for a mostly sci-fi universe.

Personally i love how they took the throwaway jeager drones and created Apex

It was a fun spin-off story. My only issue is that you can tell they were forced to end the show earlier than expected due to some unresolved questions and rushed pacing.

Thought so, too.

In God's name your not Guilty.

A doggie!

Pew pew pew!!! Whoaa!!

Best movie ever

I would say my second or third favorite in the last 15 years. Everything Everywhere All At Once Pacific Rim Godzilla Minus One

King of the Monsters was also not bad. They should declare the sequel that never happened to not cannon and start new.

Del Toro takes risks while Hollywood executives don't

I know why stop at one?

@@jg3000maybe because it ends in a way that would’ve made any sequel feel dumb?

We have a sequel it's called Godzilla vs Kong

​@@methlokaijufan9729 big monkey isn't as cool as big robot.

Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018)

I REALLY wanted a prequel of the start of the the Jaeger program, culminating in a young Idris Elba fighting in the climatic battle.

Godzilla Minus One should be on your watch list. No mechas, but it's amazing on the Kaijus and the human stories matter mroe than other Godzilla movies.

Agreed, Obsidian Fury is my favourite part of that movie.

Yeah I think the fight with Obsidian Fury was the peak of the movie. I also wasn't as put off by their speed in that battle. They're both not really doing anything too far outside of what Striker Eureka could do. Though the cinematography could have done better to frame their size and weight. (But yes, boooo for that fight including the death of Mako) Also yeah the Jaeger/Kaiju hybrids are cool. Basically EVA units which is rad. No big surprise it's an idea that came from Del Toro, coolest concept to actually make it to Uprising. That and Obsidian Fury *almost* justify the sequel's existence.

What sequel, Pacific rim never have a sequel

Does anyone else know what these silly children are taking about? Is this a game that the kids play now where they just make up a pretend movie and talk amongst themselves like it's real? It's a good thing that they never did anything foolish like trying to make sequel without del Toro as the director. I'm sure that would have been an unmitigated disaster and ruined a potentially wonderful franchise.

@@AdrienMitchell69 if you’re referring to us, we’re talking about awesome character designs and not the story itself. I know you’re telling a “joke”, but there’s no need to make it personal…

I Disagree heavily. Pacific rim has so much potential for so much story. And at the end of the day even if it didn't, no one watches these movies for the story. It's more about the sequences and the theatre the movie brings. The scale, the 'cool factor', the feats, the level of detail/realism. Those are the things that pacific rim fans want more of. Given better immersion, maturity, and focus pacific rim 2 had the bones for a good movie. But the framework was so crap and the execution was so poor it ended up making the series look bad. I don't think the series is dead in the water, but i if it comes out mediocre or worse, Legendary will be S.oL. and i doubt theyre willing to take a risk on it. Although....i did hear a rumor there might be a Pacific rim Godzilla crossover as both are Legendary studios 'properties'.

True, I think they'd been better off doing prequels from the war days.

Just like the names american pilots give their jets and bombs :D

Top guys out!

I wish we could have seen a shatter machine on a kaiju in pac rim

I heavily agree BUT I do think that if Guillermo stayed and made uprising, it could of beaten godzilla at his own game in terms of writing the characters that is and giving us action that was on par, if not better than what the MV has given us. If kaneko was managed to have gamera beat godzilla at his own game with a smaller budget in the 90s, I can see Guillermo doing the same. But unfortunately....uprising had to happen

I think Pacific Rim does a hint better at human characters. A common complaint about the Monsterverse is that the humans are "boring", and while I find them perfectly serviceable (after all, humans in Godzilla movies usually just serve as exposition and audience surrogates, which was why Godzilla Minus One stood out so much), none of them were particularly memorable. Pacific Rim on the other hand has some of the most cliched and archetypical characters and yet they don't feel tired or dull at any moment. They feel like tributes to the trope with their own unique spin rather than just another instance of something we've seen dozens of times. Mako makes a great anime-esque protagonist, Stacker Pentecost is the big badass dad figure, Newt and Hermann are a delightful comic-relief duo who manage to carry their weight in the plot, Hannibal Chau is a fun side-villain revolving around some nice worldbuilding of bone slums and kaiju black market and Raliegh is...a little bland in comparison but makes a great audience surrogate to introduce the world of Pacific Rim to.

Thing is, I get Gojira is iconic, but honestly, the fights felt kinda lacking in every movie after the first. There was more of it, but it felt hollow by comparison to Pacific Rim's, and the emotional beats only kinda hit at best. Good entertainment, nothing offensive like the collective fever dream that was Uprising, but just felt a bit disappointing. But at least the monsters themselves look astounding.

@@scottjs5207 Don't see how they're lacking after g14 when g14 is the same movie that sort of holds itself back in regards to the action.

The problem with so many Godzilla movies, especially in the last 20 years (Excluding Shin Godzilla which I have not watched), is that the humans almost always felt like pointless, annoying things. Godzilla 2014 had great visuals and Godzillla looked amazing, but the humans just pissed me off. Generic white guy in the army brings his generic family near Godzillas attack area again and again. WHY THEY Heck are you bringing your family into Godzillas warpath? Are you trying to get them killed? The following Godzilla movies were a bit better, but it wasn't until Godzilla Minus One that I was in love with human characters. The former Japanese fighter pilot was amazing. I have become a Godzilla Minus One stan and will get everyone to watch it when it comes to streaming.

I’d love to cover lots of tokusatsu in the future. It’s just a little intimidating since the big franchises are really massive undertakings.

At least Alien 3’s character deaths served a greater purpose for the story rather than killing them off for shits and giggles.

that is a genious idea

It's more the coked up suits he has to get approval from

In this case legendary was sold to some chinese company and the were massive delays before the production even started and i guess china told him what they want to see so he left the project. Make stupid choices win stupid prices.... The male main character would have come back for a sequel with del toro and mako who was there and ASIEN gets killed in a fck helicopter crash they were so stupid. Kill off nearly every old Char off screen or in a stupid way...