Matter + Home Assistant + Thread = DISASTER?!

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Testing out Matter WiFi and Thread devices on Home Assistant using SkyConnect. What could go wrong?
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0:00 Intro
0:42 Adding a Matter device
2:29 Sharing devices
2:56 Thread
3:37 SkyConnect
4:23 Installing SkyConnect
5:13 Thread device with SkyConnect

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@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

Here's my other video where I set up Matter in Alexa, Google, SmartThings, and Apple HomeKit: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM2nksWbyNPRm3k.html

@darshanpatel805 Жыл бұрын

Hello, where can I buy eve thread matter based plug? The one I bought only has thread (QR code) not matter, it will be really helpful if you could please share link with me

@CodySuders 4 ай бұрын

Time for an update? Do the ecosystems work together well now over a year later?

@TerraMagnus 7 ай бұрын

This deserves revisiting with everything that’s changed. It’s only now, Dec 2023, that I finally have this working. And I even have HA sharing a thread network & border routers with Apple Home.

@jschipmann 6 ай бұрын

I agree getting ready to revamp my home so... now would be a good time to start down the matter rabbit hole

@JSmartHome Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Two or three months ago I bought the Home Assistant SkyConnect (Zigbee/Thread) and about a month ago I bought two Tapo switches with Matter and it has worked perfectly for me. I only had to connect the plugs and Home Assistant discovered it automatically, but it sent me to configure from the application, which I did and the installation was extremely simple and fast and so far I have not had any type of problem.

@nzhook Жыл бұрын

I was pondering the SkyConnect but something you left out is it's currently only able to Matter if your on HA OS. I run HA in Docker so it won't work for me :(

@JaredK000 Жыл бұрын

Hey Reed, I'm Loving Your Videos. I have a really strange thing I'm TRYING to implement. Is there any way that you know of getting HA to Be able to use the motion sensor capabilities of a google nest thermostat. All I can see are climate, humidity, and temperature. I'd like to setup an automation when someone walks past the Nest Thermostat it triggers a light strip. Thanks For Your Valuable Time.

@jamesmonahan7872 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for another informative video. Think I will wait a minute and let them work the bugs out before trying to integrate.

@the-cyber-monkey Жыл бұрын

Hi I've found your video's very helpful and also quite fun. I was hoping you could help I've added the Matter integration using the Android app but don't get the option 'commission device with mobile app' as shown in your video. I'm on the latest HA 2023.3. it does as the integration to my integration tab but if I go to Devices > Add Device > add matter device the camera doesn't show up, instead I brought get a pop up that says Matter is currently unavailable. Is this still working for you or is there some new way I can commission device with my mobile that I've missed?

@JoeLahaina Жыл бұрын

Great update… please keep us in the loop!

@Schnabulation Жыл бұрын

Thanks for including my comment 😂 And thanks for the video, appreciate it!

@thebundok Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update! :D

@BudsSmartHome Жыл бұрын

I'm not an HA guy but I found the information you imparted very interesting. You packed a lot of good and clear direction in this six minute video Reed. There are always comparisons being made between ST and HA as to which is the better system, and although HA has made decisive steps toward being more user friendly platform, this is another example demonstrating that they still have more work to do. Thanks Reed!

@joshuahaney1135 Жыл бұрын

I might end up trying home assistant again first time I tried I just wasn’t nerdy enough

@timboe1848 6 ай бұрын

Any updates on this? Was thinking about getting the sky connect

@utbigpapa Жыл бұрын

What's the blue green lamp in the background called?

@Nur__ Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Now I see why you didn't include this in the other video.

@ApexOT Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video update.

@michaelthompson657 Жыл бұрын

So I have 3 HomePod minis and an Apple TV with Thread, ands SkyConnect. I’m assuming the best way to add Matter devices would be to add it to HomeKit then share with HA?

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

Right now that's probably the best way since you will have more than one border router. HA says that you might be able to merge the Thread networks (bottom of this page) www.home-assistant.io/integrations/thread/ so if that is the case then you could take advantage of both.

@michaelthompson657 Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthome yeah I thought I’d read that. So I’m assuming if you can merge the border routers in the future it wouldn’t matter how you added the device? I’m also assuming if I already have devices in HomeKit I may aswell keep them there

@TheMoonSeesMe Жыл бұрын

Where is your funny ending sequence? I love them!

@ronm6585 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Reed.

@williamsigdal4957 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video where you experiment with Sonos connected to home assistant and Spotify

@BradleyFordAus Жыл бұрын

It's still in beta..., But they didn't really seem to be a disaster

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

It was a disaster in getting the two Matter devices working. Go to the Thread integration doc www.home-assistant.io/integrations/thread/ and figure out how to enable Thread on SkyConnect. Doesn't exist. So then you go to the SkyConnect page, that will show you right? www.home-assistant.io/skyconnect/ Nope! You would have to know to go to a blog page that shows how to do it. I seriously could have complained for 30 minutes but I mainly wanted to spare everyone that pain and just show them how it works. So yes it is a disaster.

@bondjw07 Жыл бұрын

My username and comment made it in your video! :cheer: Thank you for this follow-up!!!

@johnkwolf Жыл бұрын

What about homebrigd

@dankelley9361 Жыл бұрын

Get Better, couldn’t be much worse! Seems to be more convoluted & confusing instead of easier! Crazy!

@jimbates6227 Жыл бұрын

"You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back.” Good luck dodging arrows, Reed. Thankfully, I don't have any need for this tech.

@guilllexx Жыл бұрын

That is so bad title, total disaster ?? and then less than 5 minutes and you're good to go ? wow ... but thanx for the info and good video even if I dont understand your point.

@MagickKitsune Жыл бұрын

I'm having a hard time understanding this video. How was this in any way a "disaster" The only 2 matter devices that *exist* today paired on the first try and worked flawlessly. This is one of the better implementations I've seen since launch, they just need to make it easier to find the "pair device" button and make the (already one-click) "enable thread on skyconnect" button easier to find. Just a little UX improvement and it'll be perfect. A new "Add Matter" button somewhere, and if you try to add a thread device without a border router, prompt you to add one.

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

@stevenjev Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthomeif you have time you should suggest an edit to improve the documentation now that you’ve gone through it!

@MagickKitsune Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthome Good point that I missed. If something that essential has zero instruction, it might as well not exist. I had no idea SkyConnect even had thread support already until I watched this video, and I've been following the development. I thought I just missed something but no, even the dedicated SkyConnect page still says Thread support is coming in a future firmware update. In other news, it looks like all the Matter documentation assumes you're in the HA beta (settings>system>updates>⋮>join beta channel). The march update at least adds the "Add Matter Device" to the Add Integration menu. Hopefully when it releases they can put out better instructions for enabling Thread. Another issue is right now most phones can't even commission Matter devices because your phone needs to specifically support Matter. Even my Pixel 7 can't do it running the latest Android, Google Home beta, and Home Assistant beta.

@rodneycrosslin4405 Жыл бұрын

Does it even Matter?

@dankarization Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, reading a guide to the end to get fully functional integration is a disaster?

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

@dankarization Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthome ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ home assistant is for people who like pain

@vulcan4d Жыл бұрын

I would pay for a version of home assistant that wasn't confusing to setup anything and fails after an update.

@Phelper99 Жыл бұрын

I have Home Assistant, Zigbee, and ZWave. Not sure why I'd need matter.

@FrankyB295 Жыл бұрын

So you can pay 2 to 3 times more for sensors, plugs and light bulbs.

@pamcadd8658 Жыл бұрын

By minute 4, I was definitely feeling like Charlie Brown hearing the teacher, "Wah, wah, wah." How is any ordinary mortal supposed to be able to understand all this router, mesh, thread, etc. stuff? If our homes are going to be smart, these devices need to be a whole lot simpler to implement. So far, every switch or plug or device that I have requires its own dedicated app. That's crazy. If I had to use a "stove app" every time I boiled water or "microwave app" every time I heated up soup, I'd end up either cooking over a camp stove or eating out!

@fightingmajor Жыл бұрын

Matter is clearly marked as BETA in Home Assistant. I'd say calling it a Disaster is click bait.

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s in BETA but compared to the other systems like SmartThings or Apple it’s a complete mess right now. I would say that is accurate and not click bait.

@artieartya Жыл бұрын

Def not click bait. Really good and entertaining content.

@PijnackerRonald Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthome This seems hardly fair. It is clearly advertized as beta, so the video title could have said "unfinished" instead. I would agree this smells like click bait to me.

@fvgoya Жыл бұрын

Man, my English is not perfect and yet I was able to understand the title. It’s not an affirmative sentence. He added “?!” after the word disaster. You should understand that he’s not “calling it a disaster”. He’s questioning it.

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

@formatBCE Жыл бұрын

Clickbait detected.

@reedssmarthome Жыл бұрын

@formatBCE Жыл бұрын

@@reedssmarthome I guess it's your research what makes it look like piece of cake. :)

@vinup7667 Жыл бұрын

HA needs documentation improvement. works on first try, what was the disaster? click bait

@ManfredBartz Жыл бұрын

Huh? Given your demonstration and the immaturity of Matter, I was surprised how well it actually worked. If there is a disaster in Home Assistant then that would be the scripting language (YAML) and the awkward heroics of the GUI overlay to fake a more user friendly if-then-else structure.

@WalterRiggs Жыл бұрын

I’ve been programming computers for 36 years. I’ll never do any of this to put things into a home automation environment. In the words of Captain Scott: “The more they overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain”. Matter was supposed to make things easy. Even Apple doesn’t have it right.

@chriscooper1686 Жыл бұрын

I think he said, the more you overthink the plumbing.

@ronniemagatti3342 Жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity for a "Home Assistant doesn't... Matter" joke

@DawgBone Жыл бұрын

I gave up and wrote off HA, as soon as I learned that they charge for a subscription to be able to connect to your house remotely. That, and you have to build it with every protocol that you want, on top of having to run 3rd party plugins for many of them. It was fun, and I liked having a more custom tailored integration. But it's just not there yet. At least not to the point of Vera LUA... And now that Vera/EZLO has committed suicide(I'm not paying for the rest of my life to remotely control my home), I'm stuck with ST. EVERYTHING seems functions much better in ST, and much more solid for me. No subscriptions, semi-customizable, and more of a "just works", has me sold with ST... Plus the price!!! I'll stay in touch with HA, but until they can offer a SIP implementation with no annual fee, they'll remain in others' homes. Thanks for the video though.... At least now we know!!!

@ManfredBartz Жыл бұрын

HA has many problems, but free remote access is not one of them. It took me about one hour to set up secure remote access using LetsEncrypt. Alternatively you could set up a VPN which could also give you access to the rest of your home network.

@okdubunf Жыл бұрын

what's ST?

@ManfredBartz Жыл бұрын

@@okdubunf I think he refers to "Smart Things" (Samsung).

@whitebeard2407 Жыл бұрын

There are many videos showing how to connect to HA remotely without paying a subscription. I pay the subscription because it also supports the development of HA.

@DayoAworunse Жыл бұрын

Yes they charge a fee but you can easily connect to your Home Assistant remotely without using their subscription and doing it yourself.